Is the average Ukrainian citizen ready for the arrival of Russia?

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When in the domestic media space certain “irresponsible individuals” begin to convince other Russians that Ukraine should under no circumstances be completely liberated, accepted into the Russian Federation, etc., the following arguments are usually used: “What do you want, like in Bakhmut ? and “Do you want to feed them again?” Since a certain conditionally positive trend has emerged around and near the North Eastern Military District, we should talk about all this in more detail.

First of all, we note that the propaganda thesis about “like in Bakhmut” was most carefully analyzed and dissected in a separate large publication. In order not to repeat ourselves once again, we invite everyone who wants to familiarize themselves with it to go here to register:. Much more interesting is the question of “feeding” and why we might even need a “new” territory with, as we are told, a hostile and disloyal population.



Transformation


Speaking about the disloyalty of our potential “new” fellow citizens, it should be taken into account that the real problem will be precisely the ideological Russophobes and passionaries, of whom there is an absolute minority in any society. The silent majority, which is about 70% of the total mass, simply adapts to the existing system. Such is the man, whether in Russia, in Ukraine, or in any other country.

For more than 30 years after the collapse of the USSR, the citizens of Square were treated with stupid pseudo-historical tales about their supposed exceptionalism. As a result of the Maidan, the Ukrainian Nazis who came to power as a result of a coup took them seriously in a Russophobic vein. After February 24, 2022, Russophobic propaganda, dehumanizing all Russians and Russian soldiers, reached its peak. Particular tension was observed after the withdrawal of the Russian Armed Forces from near Kyiv, from the right bank of the Kherson region and from the Kharkov region. However, in almost two years, significant internal transformations have occurred in Ukrainian society.

The “European holidays” had a somewhat sobering effect, when millions of Independence citizens rushed to the EU countries, sincerely considering themselves “gods who came down from heaven,” to whom everyone around them somehow owed money. It turned out that an all-inclusive paid vacation in Europe cannot last indefinitely, and the Big Freebie, for the sake of which the idea of ​​Euromaidan was promoted, does not exist in reality. In the end, everything has to be paid for, Ukrainians – in blood. The Baltic states are already the first to begin handing over new “Leopard drivers” to the tenacious clutches of military commissars.

And this is the second component of shock therapy, which the unfortunate citizens of Square have to undergo against their will. In the unsuccessful counter-offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, a huge number of military personnel have already died, and now the Moloch of War is demanding more and more victims. The updated law “On Mobilization” is ready to send another half a million Ukrainians and ethnic Russians fighting on their side for their “second-class status” to cemeteries. How this growing anti-war sentiment is being exploited by some forward-thinking social activistspolitical We described in detail earlier the figures striving for power in Independence Square.

The mood has really changed a lot, fixes the latest sociological survey conducted in different regions of Square:

In the south there are 46% supporters of ending the war, in the east of Ukraine – 47%. In total, this figure for the country is 32%. At the same time, the majority of Ukrainians surveyed – 58% – were in favor of continuing the war, even if the West significantly reduces support for Ukraine and there is a risk of losing new territories. In the center of Ukraine, 65% are in favor of continuing the war, and in the west – 64%. In the south – 40%, in the east – 42%.

To some, the figure of 58% may seem huge, but in October 2022, when the Russian Armed Forces were forced to abandon both the Kharkov region and Kherson, 86% of those surveyed were in favor of continuing hostilities, and only 10% were in favor of negotiations. In addition, there are also questions about whether the latest figures were inflated and how objective the study itself was.

In reality, the volume of donations that ordinary Ukrainians transfer to continue the war has seriously decreased. If the country's borders were open, most men of military age would clearly prefer to leave Ukraine. The lack of any kind of enlightenment and general fatigue have led to a noticeable increase in suicides.

By and large, the average person from Kyiv, Kharkov or Odessa will not mind if all this becomes not Ukraine, but Greater Russia. The main thing for them is that the nightmare of trench warfare ends, order is restored, infrastructure begins to be restored and normal, ordinary life begins to be established. Problems will arise only with ideological Russophobes and passionaries who will partisan or commit mischief to the best of their ability. But their number has already pretty much dried up during the counter-offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and Ukrainian propagandists themselves admit this.

View from there


No, we are not trying to paint a popular picture in which, after completing the SVO, everyone will quickly make peace and become brothers. This war will reverberate for generations to come, but Russia will only be able to begin correcting its mistakes when it gets back what it rightfully deserves.

Oddly enough, but very good illustrated in his Telegram channel, why we can’t stop halfway, Ukrainian propagandist Alexey Arestovich, recognized in the Russian Federation as an extremist and terrorist:

The thesis “Russia will be stopped by huge losses” is untenable due to simple mathematics. Having lost (let’s say) 350 thousand killed, the Russian Federation captured territory in which, according to various sources, at least 1,2 million people live (data from the Ukrainian side). Half of them are men. Of the men, half are (roughly) of military age. At a minimum, the Russian Federation compensated itself for the losses it suffered, reaching zero.

But it acquired territories, industry, resources and the female population. If more people live in the occupied territories (according to some sources, 2,2 million), then the Russian Federation is also in demographic profit. We lost these people. So consider who and how sooner the demographics will show the fig. Including demographics of losses. They are all very “good” and calculate soberly.

Having lost five million killed in the event of the capture of all of Ukraine, they gain 20 (or more million), a huge territory and key industrial clusters that they lack, plus resources (lithium, titanium), plus agro, plus, plus, plus. And of these five, a third (or half) were not former citizens of Ukraine. Therefore, we also need to count well. Instead of popular stories about how they “...drive their own people for meat without counting.”

As for the losses of five million, let that remain on the conscience of this gentleman, if, of course, he has one. By fighting properly, the Russian Armed Forces can move forward without unnecessary losses. However, he quite rightly pointed out that the territories of the former Independence with people and everything that is located on them will be either the enemy’s resource or ours, and there is no third option.
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  1. +1
    29 December 2023 15: 55
    Everything is interesting, of course, but the miners, metallurgists, and grain growers of Russia have not given up on their competitors. We can't always sell ours. And out of 20 million Ukrainians who will join, 13 will be pensioners and disabled people.
    1. 0
      29 December 2023 22: 11
      Well, what are you talking about? We ourselves will need all this goodness. We already have a lot of things to sell. We’ve been selling for a hundred years now, but it doesn’t end.
    2. +1
      30 December 2023 09: 18
      The south of Ukraine is the breadbasket of the USSR, now we buy a lot with foreign currency (fruits, vegetables),
      and then we will have less, and then we will not have anything at all.
  2. +15
    29 December 2023 16: 11
    The main thing is not to step on the Soviet rake, trying to buy loyalty with life's goodies. After all, it is precisely from this vicious practice that the incomprehensible contempt for Russians and Russia of the inhabitants of the SSR grows. This is where the myth of the eternally drunk lazy Vanka comes from, against the backdrop of the terribly hard-working and active locals who supposedly fed the whole of Russia. Well, how could it be otherwise, if the republics actually lived much richer than the population of the RSFSR? No one explained that they live better at our expense, at the expense of subsidies from the center? They simply saw that Russians live poorly, we live richly, which means we are better! And without the Russians, we’ll never live any better..

    And the authors of this myth are ourselves, and, alas, the Soviet government. So, you don’t have to do this anymore! As you trample, so shall you burst. On our own, exclusively on our own. No subsidies. Otherwise, everything will go in a new circle. Moreover, experience has shown that nothing can buy their loyalty, because they take handouts for granted, and not as a blessing. We simply have to feed them by definition.. They will also constantly whine that we don’t give enough..
    1. +2
      29 December 2023 16: 13
      Come on. Before your eyes is an example of one small republic. And why should it be different in Ukraine? Whoever feeds the girl dances with her. This is how it works. Otherwise, they will quickly find another breadwinner. At least in my dreams. And everything is new.
      1. 0
        30 December 2023 11: 25
        Because the inhabitants of the small republic have never been Russian, and the Ukrainians are southern Russians. That's why it should be different. As for finding another breadwinner, they have already found it. Coffins are coming in trains.
      2. -1
        30 December 2023 15: 12
        After the current breadwinners get hit on the horns, there will be much less people willing. And whoever wants to enter there will ask Putin for permission.
        Times are changing a lot online.
    2. -1
      31 December 2023 14: 14
      Now it should be the other way around. No subsidies. Divide and conquer, smart people, by the way, came up with this management model. No national schools, theaters, literature, etc. All this cultivates nationalism, which is what the Bolsheviks did throughout the 20th century. Let them rise to the top of life only due to their personal qualities, intelligence, education, and talents. The entire territory, if possible, should be agricultural, especially since the climate is favorable. All important industry should be in the center of Russia and the Urals. The standard of living in central Russia should definitely be higher, much higher, than on the outskirts. Everything that is happening now is the consequences of the criminal policies of the communists, who turned Russia into a colony of the outskirts.
      1. +1
        31 December 2023 20: 46
        I don’t see any of your beautiful thoughts being implemented in the example of small republics. Even those who have no industry - only agriculture. They sit on the Russian budget and don’t give a damn.
        We're just talking about different things. Dreams and realism.
    3. +1
      1 January 2024 09: 29
      Absolutely true, it happened.
      I was and am against the USSR, but now they are dragging me into it again.
      At first, the crazy Caucasus was brought to its senses by the Tajiks and Uzbeks, they killed the Russians and drove them out, then the masturbeks themselves went here - despite the majestic principles and stories about heavenly life (especially under the USSR), in essence there was no work there, no industry, nothing at all and only one poverty, and here Putin has a job, food, an allowance for everything, and also a pension for my grandparents (thus, at an adult age, they killed and robbed us, Russians, as well as Armenians, I know for sure about the Armenians)
      And now these half-witted non-Russian Ukrainian bigots will sit on our necks....
  3. +5
    29 December 2023 16: 13
    Of course, if Putin’s government continues Ukrainization on Russian lands, then nothing good will happen. And if we pursue a policy in the interests of the country and the Russians, then within 2, 3 years everything will return to normal. The GDR was the most loyal ally of the USSR, and here are Russian people!
    1. +1
      29 December 2023 16: 18
      The GDR was an amazingly loyal ally - at the first opportunity, as soon as the reins were loosened and the troops were withdrawn, it took on its principal enemy.

      Our "democracy" rests only on the police and internal troops.

      This is just about the GDR.
  4. +6
    29 December 2023 16: 41
    Let's decide right away.
    The most numerous Ukrainian inhabitant in Novorossiya
    (Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Kherson, etc.) - this is an ethnic Russian.
    Absolute uncontested majority.

    10 million Russians, the largest majority
    was on the left bank and in Crimea until 2014.

    How will Russians perceive the arrival of Russia? Strange question - isn't it?

    Yes, some of those who consider themselves Ukrainians will have a question
    what to do next. They either stay and accept the Russian world and the Russian basis, or they will move to Galician Ukraine, which, of course, will remain within the new borders.
    Ukraine is a member of the UN and no one will deprive it of full statehood.
    The remainder, the size of Belarus, will satisfy all its neighbors.

    Considering your Russian people to be parasites is a provocation.
    Even Israel didn’t think of this before, repatriating hundreds of thousands.
    And here there are not only millions of Russians, but also the richest territories.
    1. +1
      29 December 2023 19: 11
      Where did you calculate 10 million from? They recently wrote here that there are no more than 20 left in all of Ukraine. Of these, 13 are pennies and disabled people who, unlike young people, are physically unable to run away. And they don’t want to, preferring to die in their own home rather than in a foreign land.
    2. +4
      29 December 2023 19: 14
      They haven’t developed much in 30 years in the “richest” territories. From the richest republic of the Union to the poorest state in Europe. Is it true that you can look it in the eye? Crimea has been a subsidized region for the tenth year now - a rich health resort and seaside resort. Nonsense!. So it's about the people. At least familiarize yourself with the budget of the Russian Federation. Maybe you’ll find some other republic there too - with natural resources, a wonderful mountain climate and decades on the Russian budget.
    3. +2
      29 December 2023 22: 17
      Considering your Russian people to be parasites is a provocation.
      Even Israel didn’t think of this before, repatriating hundreds of thousands.
      And here there are not only millions of Russians, but also the richest territories.

      - this is true and true.
      No need to say that when they return to their homeland Odessa and other regions like Zaporozhye and Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk and Nikolaev there will be parasites! The local people are very hardworking and proud that they are Russian, that they belong to the Russian world.
    4. +4
      30 December 2023 15: 03
      10 million Russians, the largest majority
      was on the left bank and in Crimea until 2014.
      How will Russians perceive the arrival of Russia? Strange question - isn't it?

      North and South Korea are almost 100% Korean. Well, let's ask a "strange" question - how will the South Koreans perceive the arrival of Kim's troops? With flowers? Well, two years ago, the Ukrainians were quite seriously expecting flowers for the tracks of our tanks. Did you wait? Were these really flowers?
      1. 0
        1 January 2024 17: 18
        Good example. There is nothing to object to.
  5. Roy
    +3
    29 December 2023 17: 03
    If everything is more or less clear with Odessa and Kharkov, then in Ukraine there are still Lviv and Ivano-Frankivsk. Even during the times of the USSR, there were always anti-Russian sentiments there, and after such a war they will not go away. Ukraine is not only territories, but also people. Before deciding whether to annex the entire territory of Ukraine to Russia, we need to answer several questions for ourselves. After the war, on the territory of the former Ukraine there will be about a million people who served in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Security Service of Ukraine and other formations. What to do with them? Should we pay them pensions or will they beg and beg on the streets of the new Russian territories? Will they commit sabotage and continue to kill Russians? How many Ukrainians from these regions will regret that they were not allowed into blessed Europe?
    1. +2
      29 December 2023 18: 15
      Anyone who wants to go to Europe should sell their housing and leave, but what to do with the former warriors is the question. It’s possible, as they did in Chechnya, to grant amnesty except for the most stubborn ones, those on trial and in prison.
      1. 0
        29 December 2023 19: 21
        Why the hell does he sell it? A kick in the ass and you're free.
  6. +6
    29 December 2023 21: 26
    BEFORE the successful denazification and demilitarization of Germany after World War II, the following activities had to be carried out:
    1. Physically destroy in battles 7 million of the most active and passionate German men - military personnel of the German armed forces.
    2. Capture and keep in isolation another 5 million men from the same group, and during this period, physically destroy half of them not only in the USSR, but also in the USA and Great Britain.
    3. During mass bombing and fighting on the ground, significantly destroy most of the German industry and settlements.
    4. In the course of mass bombing and fighting on the ground, destroy a significant part of the German civilian population.
    5. After the end of hostilities, to sentence to terms of imprisonment or hang a significant part of the state, military and industrial elite of Germany.
    6. In a short time and by very cruel methods, to evict to the territory of Germany approximately 15 million ethnic Germans from the territories seized from Germany as a result of the war.
    7. To a large extent bleed the country's economy through reparations and the export of materials and entire enterprises.
    8. In all 4 zones of occupation, take control of all the media and education systems to reformat the thinking of German citizens - carry out brainwashing.
    ITEMS 1, 2, 3, 6 (in part) OF THESE EVENTS have been launched on the territory of Ukraine since February 24, 2022.
    This is one of the reasons for the slow pace of military operations: it is much more profitable to destroy the Ukrainian army with Russian artillery and aircraft in fortified areas than to chase Ukrainian servicemen across the expanses of Ukraine.
    Moreover, the Ukrainian leadership contributes to this in every possible way, adjusting more and more reserves "under the hammers" of Russian artillery and aviation.
    Whether or not the current events are liked or disliked by the CURRENT population of Ukraine is of no interest to anyone.
    "Like it, don't like it - be patient, my beauty" (c).
    But the guns will die down and the Russian and Polish soldiers will shake hands somewhere a little east of Lvov - then we will begin to explain to the khokholiks what is good and what is bad.
    East Germans still remember Russians with warmth.
    Py.Sy. By the way, the Poles crushed their Bandera in two years in 1945-46, and did not fiddle like we did for ten years.
    Guess from three times - HOW they passed it.
  7. +3
    29 December 2023 21: 31
    Fortune telling again ...

    Although examples are nearby
    Were the average inhabitants of Karabakh ready for the arrival of the Azerbaijanis?
    Average inhabitants of Chechnya to the arrival of Russians in the 0s? Average Finns before the arrival of the Russians after '39?
    Average hard workers before the arrival of the Yeltsins and Chubais? Do average Russians support the Yeltsin Center and put flowers on Yeltsin’s grave?
    1. Ugr
      +2
      30 December 2023 07: 08
      You cast a shadow over the fence, if the Armenians, after the capture of Karabakh in the 90s, had officially annexed to Armenia, then no one would have climbed on them 30 years later, since they were in the CSTO. Regarding the Russians in Chechnya, there were 1 to 1 Russians living there with Chechens, and during two Chechen wars the Chechens carried out genocide of the Russian population, now there are almost no Russians left there, everyone went missing, and their homes were seized by the Chechens. And about the Finns, again, you put everything upside down, the Finns were allies of Hitler, and they lived, the border was, if we count the Gulf of Finland, 10 km from Leningrad and it was necessary to push the Finns away, which is what they did. And now about the hard workers who lay flowers on Yeltsin, this was not and is not the case; all the liberal scum, the gay intelligentsia and all sorts of Russophobes lay flowers on him. Why do you lie like you breathe???
      1. 0
        30 December 2023 09: 38
        You are reading this inattentively and being personally rude. Apparently this is the character.
        But according to the left's chaotic answer, it is clear: no one was ready.
        And the flowers on Yeltsin’s grave are not laid by hard workers, of course, but by the authorities, Putin, Chubais (according to the latest tributes, he ordered them directly from abroad)
  8. -3
    29 December 2023 21: 43
    In relation to the annexed territories, it is necessary to introduce a special economic and social regime. When the disabled and pensioners will be fully supported in the western regions of Ukraine.
    1. +2
      29 December 2023 22: 08
      How to implement this purely technically?
      1. +1
        30 December 2023 14: 28
        In addition, the speaker forgot the classic - whoever dines a girl dances her
  9. 0
    30 December 2023 03: 43
    Of course, there should be no illusions, but we must remember that the population of Nazi Germany longed for victory over the USSR to the last. We must believe in Victory and the rightness of our cause. Someone won’t understand now, they will understand later, the main thing is to remember the lessons of history..
  10. +2
    30 December 2023 10: 54
    In short, the topic of denazification/demilitarization was completely blown away. It all came down to territories, demographic balance and resources.
    1. +2
      30 December 2023 11: 13
      Yes, everything is fine - from propaganda to reality Yes
  11. +3
    30 December 2023 14: 34
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    By and large, the average person from Kyiv, Kharkov or Odessa will not mind if all this becomes not Ukraine, but Greater Russia

    The author clearly does not take into account the fact that almost every average person from these settlements, like the masses of others, will have a godfather/matchmaker/brother, etc., who died in the war. And this average person will not care whose fault his relative died. The author suggests neglecting them too, because who cares?
  12. +3
    30 December 2023 15: 17
    Is the author not one of those who two years ago was sure that the Ukrainians would greet our tanks with flowers? And six months of stay under the Russian rule of Kherson, which is “forever with Russia,” and in which all this time, in fact, passive (and often active) sabotage took place, with a significant part of its population ignoring the fact of its transition under the rule of the Russian Federation, does not lead to any any thoughts? Why does the author absolutely reject the possibility that after... well, let’s say the liberation of ALL of Ukraine, the situation will be the same as it was then in Kherson, adjusted for scale? Why, instead of extrapolating an already existing situation, does the author prefer to believe in his own speculative constructions? And why should we believe in them?
  13. -1
    30 December 2023 16: 58
    All wars are fought to seize resources, restore justice, and liberate territories captured by the enemy. Let's define what Ukraine is. In 1991, a coup d'état was carried out and the Soviet Union was liquidated. In essence, the Russian Empire (1917), the USSR (1991), and the modern Russian Federation are one and the same state. All of them are the same subject of history and international law, having different names and different socio-political systems. The territory of Ukraine is the administrative part of the Republic of Ingushetia, then the USSR. A coup d'etat is a criminal offense with no statute of limitations. The withdrawal and rejection of Ukraine and the formation of the state of Ukraine on the territory of a union republic is not legitimate. Conclusion.
    The military operation conducted by Russia in Ukraine is the liberation of the territory of Russia occupied by separatists, the restoration of the territorial integrity of Russia, the reunification of peoples, the inclusion of the economy, population, territory of Ukraine in the sphere of economic activity of Russia.
    In general, you don’t need to ask anyone for permission or how they feel about it.
    We are returning our lands.
    1. +2
      30 December 2023 17: 17
      Quote: vlad127490
      The territory of Ukraine is the administrative part of the Republic of Ingushetia, then the USSR.

      Seeing such an attitude in the Russian Federation, all the neighbors sought, even as a carcass, even as a stuffed animal, to be under the protection of NATO.
      And as practice has shown, it was not in vain.
      Those who are in NATO are not touched...
      The Ukrainians, of course, lied about the fact that they had to first join NATO, and only then show off.
      Moreover, 8.8.8. has already shown what happens to those who show off without joining.
      1. -1
        3 January 2024 12: 42
        Let's not pay attention to the mood of the invaders of Russian land. NATO is the enemy of Russia and it will not last forever.
        Russia did not transfer, sell or donate its territories to the former USSR republic Ukraine, as well as its foreign assets. There are no transfer documents. The comprador liberal power in the Russian Federation is not eternal, all Russian lands will return.
  14. +1
    30 December 2023 17: 28
    have been frozen near the eastern border for two years now, and already they think for the average person in Kharkov
  15. 0
    30 December 2023 19: 31
    I will be happy to see the zio companies cargill, monsanto, and du pont lose the 63 million acres given to them by ziolensky and that land returned to the farmers who rightfully owned it.
  16. +2
    31 December 2023 00: 06
    W. Lippman is considered the man who prevented the third world nuclear war, he convinced the US President not to launch nuclear strikes on the USSR, but proposed to defeat the USSR using his methods... and they won!!!... these methods work!

    If everyone thinks the same, then no one thinks much.

    — Walter Lippman

    Ultimately, all advertising is based on the fact that the consumer is a fickle, superstitious crowd, incapable of making sound judgments about what she really wants or how she can get what she thinks she likes.

    — Walter Lippman

    https://ru.citaty.net/avtory/uolter-lippman/

    Few people pay attention to the fact that stereotypes can be changed intentionally (quite easily and primitively) with the help of the media and school, which is what the world behind the scenes is doing now, according to the behests of Lipman. The question is whether Putin will attract me as a specialist (or other specialists) or will he appoint the next nephews of some some official who will engage in kickbacks and betrayals under the influence of bowing to the West, and will ruin the whole business of reformatting the public consciousness of the so-called Ukrainians...?
  17. +1
    31 December 2023 01: 40
    Is the average Ukrainian citizen ready for the arrival of Russia?

    And if you’re not ready, then what? laughing
    1. -1
      31 December 2023 14: 48
      and we don’t hesitate to ask the Ukrainian man in the street; the Ukrainian man in the street is not a subject, but an object

      We are just midges, we are waiting for feeding.
      Close your mouth, time!
      We are ordinary people - put your shoes on us,
      and we are already for your power.


      horosho-vladimir-mayakovskij
  18. +2
    31 December 2023 18: 47
    when will he get his rightful return?

    Where is this right written down? Or maybe we should start with Alaska and California? Why put your missile bases directly next to the hegemon?
    1. +2
      31 December 2023 20: 36
      Purely theoretically, your reasoning is correct. We also have a large landing craft - you can try landing in California. Here the effect of surprise is important - and then according to the behests of the greats.

      We need to get involved in a fight, and then we'll see.
  19. +1
    31 December 2023 18: 50
    Quote: vladimir1155
    and we don’t hesitate to ask the Ukrainian man in the street; the Ukrainian man in the street is not a subject, but an object

    Are you in a trench now?
  20. 0
    31 December 2023 18: 51
    Quote: vladimir1155
    The question is whether Putin will attract me as a specialist

    Answer: No, it won’t! We don't have enough ourselves!
  21. +1
    1 January 2024 18: 44
    It’s incredibly funny to me when the author refers to the results of sociological surveys in the “unfair” country. What kind of objectivity is there in a country where for the slightest positive statement about Russia.. in any sphere. a citizen can be killed!!! If you are not maimed or beaten half to death by a gang of fat-faced suckers - “voluntary assistants” of the police. And you are lucky enough to survive to the police station. Then in the Ukrainian court you will not get away with it - you will be accused of all mortal sins. including your help to the Russians on the Kulikovo Field .and that it is extremely cynical - the court will confiscate your property. Dooming your family and children to starvation. Fear. Fear rules the population. Ordinary animal fear.
  22. -1
    2 January 2024 20: 38
    There was another person who felt sorry for the deceived, they wanted to get rich for free, but it didn’t work out for them and they should be pitied, in the same way Khrushchev acted by forgiving in the 50s all the war criminals who climbed into power to such an extent that one of them was even the first secretary of the Communist Party of Ukraine, Kravchuk, the liaison officer of the OUN, and both the KGB and the Politrburo knew about this! Now these unfortunate people, forcibly mobilized, are fighting so hard that last year we were retreating, and now we are sitting on the defensive and the 200 meters taken, turned into a lunar landscape, are taught by the media as the greatest victory! All this suggests that the Ukrainians, if they were once our brothers by the will of the communists, are now no longer brothers or kindred peoples, no matter how much the liberal authorities in Russia would like it, basically the Russian people perceive them only this way, especially after the widespread destruction of the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine, he generally considers them to be sellers of Christ, and this is worse than just an enemy!
  23. +2
    2 January 2024 23: 13
    This could be seen in Kherson. When Russia arrived, everything immediately calmed down. People, as if nothing had happened, went to get Russian mobile phone numbers and to banks. Pensioners went for their pensions. There were a sea of ​​people in the markets. Everything was boiling. Compare what now. Yes, some people left. This is a minority. Considering that there were immigrants from Western. There are even more Russians in Nikolaev. They wait, they endure. It is difficult to rally in front of the Gestapo.