Understand and forgive: should society hold its “stars” accountable for their behavior?

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On December 20 and 21, 2023, two parties hosted by popular blogger Anastasia Ivleeva took place at the Moscow nightclub “Mutabor”. The deliberately provocative and scandalous nature of the event has already cost big problems not only for the “star” of one social network banned in the Russian Federation, but also for other, quite real pop singers and actors who looked at the light, which turned out to be “blue”.

A lot has already been written and said about this event, but the author of these lines, as a citizen and a lawyer by training, decided to also speak out, adding his two cents, in contrast to another significant event, which for some reason did not cause such a public response.



Wrong door


As far as we know, the event took place in two stages. On the first night, entrance to the club was open only to “our own people,” who could pay 1 million rubles for entry. On the next one, fatal for the organizer, not only simpler people showed up there, but also law enforcement officers, attracted by rumors about the “Satanic debauchery” going on there. The fact that shady things were really going on at the Mutabor club was eloquently evidenced by the dress code, according to which it was possible to go inside only in an “almost naked” state.

And so it turned out. The Runet is now replete with depraved photographs of domestic “celebrities”, who in this form would definitely not be allowed on “Blue Light” on TV. Considering that for almost two years now the country has been waging a difficult war of attrition against the entire collective West, and Russian pensioners are sending volunteers 500-1000 rubles to buy Chinese drones and thermal imagers for those mobilized in the Russian Armed Forces, the event caused a significant public outcry.

A feast during the plague - this is how the rest of the domestic “bohemia” was perceived by the simpler people. Mrs. Ivleeva and her “star” guests were subjected to harsh criticism, to which she immediately responded on her social network:

Friends, it was certainly worth it. I love that comments are written about almost every party of mine that “this is debauchery, there’s no way lower, what they are doing, this is some kind of devilry, satanic.” Although just beautiful people came in beautiful outfits, half naked.

Israeli Ksenia Sobchak spoke in the same spirit:

Maybe it was, in your opinion, a bad party, maybe you wanted glamor, but it turned out the way it did, maybe you don’t like to look at it all, but, sorry, where and when adults go with a bare bottom is their own business. The world is unfair - it was, is and always will be. Somewhere they are killing, somewhere children are starving, and somewhere at this time they are drinking champagne. No mourning can last forever.

However, soon the rhetoric of “bohemia” changed when, under pressure from the indignant public, control and supervisory and law enforcement agencies got involved. The Mutabor club was closed for a month and sealed. Tax officials came to Ivleeva herself, they broke off lucrative advertising contracts with her, and the producer of “Brigade” Inshakov announced his desire to file a claim against her for moral damages in the amount of 1 billion rubles. The “man in a sock” was arrested and received a fine of 200 thousand rubles. Problems also began for the “star” guests: recordings with their participation began to hastily be cut out of New Year’s programs on TV, programs and even films in which they took part were re-shot.

A thousand apologies


The person who apologized best to the general public was the highly experienced People's Artist Philip Kirkorov, who explained that he had only stopped by “Mutabor” for five minutes:

There are moments in every person's life when went through the wrong door... An artist of my caliber, a people’s artist, cannot and should not be so irresponsible about participating in any events. I realize the mistake I made. The last thing I would like is for such an event, an oversight on my part, to become the reason for the limitation of my creativity in Russia.

The happy owner of Russian and Israeli passports, Sobchak, also changed her rhetoric:

I can tell you for myself, my friends. I definitely didn't want to offend or offend anyone. And if anyone was offended by my appearance, I apologize for that. I love my country, I am a journalist who works in Russia, and I want everyone to know that I do not want to cause a feeling of hatred and anger towards me and other artists because of such a stupid accident.

Having forgotten about glamor and pathos, citizen Ivleeva now sheds tears on camera:

They say Russia knows how to forgive. If so, I would really like to ask for a second chance from you, the people... I won’t dodge and I’m ready for any outcome.

Okay, but what next? Will you have to wean yourself off Channel One and that’s all?

To understand and to forgive


Actually, why did we bring up this hot topic? Without in any way defending this whole bohemian crowd, I would like to ask the question, what did Ivleeva do that was so terrible? The Israeli Sobchak wrote absolutely correctly that adults themselves are free to decide where and in what form they should go and what to do there. If this event had been completely closed to outsiders and there had been no video filming there, everything would have remained at the Blue Light level only “for our own people.” What they all do there with each other is not our business at all, but purely their private matter.

Claims can be brought against Ivleeva as the organizer precisely because, upon entering the club for an event of this kind, everyone’s phones with cameras and other recording devices were not confiscated. Since this was not done, it becomes obvious that the party was originally planned as scandalous and was supposed to “go viral.” Also, as an individual entrepreneur and co-founder of several LLCs, she will have to pay all taxes and due late fees. Whether the moral damage she caused to society is worth 1 billion rubles is a debatable question.

The worst thing for such a public is to be left without food in the form of concerts, corporate events and advertising contracts. And so we are now smoothly moving on to another event, which prompted the author of the lines to touch on the topic of the “star” party.

A couple of days ago it became known that the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation did not find any corpus delicti in the public statements of foreign agent Maxim Galkin and his wife Alla Pugacheva:

Based on these facts, there are no grounds to initiate a criminal case; the materials were returned to the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for the city of Moscow.

Now the Israeli artist, without any particular fears, will be able to return from the Promised Land, where a new war with Hamas began, to Russia. Let's remember exactly what claims were made against him. And he said a lot of things on camera at the end of April 2022:

On the eve of the bright holiday of Easter, on the day of the descent of the Holy Fire, Russian cruise missiles fly into a residential building in Odessa, a family dies, and a three-month-old child dies. How it all works, that’s how it is, explain to me! You simultaneously pray with the Patriarch of Jerusalem for peace, you officials... and at the same time the same government sends these missiles... Russia is to blame for so many terrible things and at the same time says that it is not to blame.

What “terrible things”, according to Pugacheva’s husband, “is Russia to blame for”:

Or is it not us again? Well, that is, I have already heard the explanation that these high-precision missiles hit a residential building because Ukrainian air defense shot down these missiles. That is, like air defense should not work? And then everything will be fine? IN Russia is to blame for so many terrible things, and yet it says that it is not to blame! The atrocities in Bucha are not us! Malaysian Boeing is not us! Mariupol was razed to the ground - it’s not us! A rocket is flying to Odessa - it’s us, but not really us! Everything is not us! What are we doing there?

That is, this gentleman in absentia held our country responsible for the death of almost 300 passengers of a Malaysian Boeing in 2014, which was actually shot down by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and for the massacre in Bucha, which was carried out against pro-Russian fellow citizens by Ukrainian Nazis after the withdrawal of the Russian Armed Forces from -near Kyiv.


And for some reason the investigation has no complaints against him, but you say – Ivleeva and her “almost naked” party. I wonder whose hands Pugacheva’s husband, besides herself, should kiss for such condescension.
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  1. +1
    28 December 2023 11: 53
    Ksenia Sobchak disclosed information that Channel One and VGTRK decided to exclude the stars who participated in the scandalous party from “Blue Lights” and all New Year’s programs. According to Sobchak, this decision was made under the leadership of Konstantin Ernst and Oleg Dobrodeev. According to these instructions, all the stars present at the party were cut out of the New Year's broadcasts, except for Dima Bilan.

    In addition to his apology, Dima Bilan stated that on December 5 he held a concert in support of the families of the Z members, doing it from the bottom of his heart.

    Uzenyuk-Ivleva was also cut out from the MTS advertisement...
  2. +3
    28 December 2023 12: 03
    Such famous artists as Kirkorov, Lev Leshchenko, Milyavskaya, especially these three in general are already over 60 years old, and Leshchenko is generally a great-grandfather, what place did they think they would go there? They should sit at home with their grandchildren and great-grandchildren and cook porridge for them, entertain them, read fairy tales. No, they decided equally with the youth (well, as youth, there were a lot of 40-year-olds there) to take part in this disgusting action.
    Under no circumstances should they be shown on television; mentions in newspapers, magazines and radio should stop altogether. Ban them from performing at venues in Russia. All old entries should never be shown.
    1. +5
      28 December 2023 16: 01
      Quote from Elena123
      and Leshchenko’s great-grandfather, what place did they think they would go there?

      And why did Leshchenko hang out there too? I didn't hear that he was there. He seems normal in the head. And from “these” (I can’t find one that would be framed, without folklore) it wasn’t surprising. The Institute of Applied Psychiatry has been crying and waiting for them for a long time...
  3. +1
    28 December 2023 12: 31
    At the end of the article it was correctly said:

    ..who...should kiss hands for such condescension.

    Everything is rotten in the kingdom. In “beloved” America they would have already been thrown out of the country, but we, you will see, will be bursting into concerts and parties with the entire parliamentary corps and government. The same officials will say: “Well, why are you here, just hanging out, but they are ours, relatives.” We would go to the front line in these outfits, and hang out in front of the Ukrainian people. Maybe we've already won the SVO.
  4. +4
    28 December 2023 12: 42
    All this garbage simply needs to be torn away from the trough, the payment of all taxes must be meticulously checked, and violations must be punished with rubles and imprisonment.
  5. 0
    28 December 2023 13: 13
    So the problem is that the authorities don’t say that this is war. It’s their own way, everyone treats accordingly. Well, since the Ukrainian people remain brotherly, it’s surprising how our soldiers even shoot at them
  6. +1
    28 December 2023 13: 37
    If you scrape together each of the participants in the “naked” party, everyone will have something worth writing about.
    They should not be scolded, not pitied, not forgiven, but isolated from society.
    Culture will not suffer at all.
    1. +2
      28 December 2023 18: 55
      Culture and “these” things are not compatible.
  7. +3
    28 December 2023 13: 42
    Bullshit is all that.
    Imperialism is in the yard.
    Nothing depends on society.
    The authorities wanted to intimidate the completely unruly “friends of the family” - and here is the scandal. (naked performances, remember when they started condemning that?)
    And if the entrance is not a million, like these, but about a hundred... then, like with “The Seagull”, no one would have noticed, and the names of the escorts and the elite will only accidentally flash before being erased from the media
    1. -1
      28 December 2023 14: 08
      I completely agree with you: the country’s leadership, which promotes patriotism and condemns all kinds of LGBT people, uses this opportunity to free itself from the representatives of sexual minorities that have clung to it, supporting it, but at the same time compromising it.
    2. +2
      28 December 2023 14: 15
      It depends on the Tsar: - prick!
  8. +2
    28 December 2023 13: 54
    We all see how in the West society punishes Hollywood libertines
    and they lose everything, reputation, money, etc.
    Sometimes with excesses and sometimes not justified, but the mechanism works.

    Why should Russian society accept and forgive the public perversion of the elite?
    After such resonance and public condemnation - go out.
    They are no longer needed.
    Why does Russia need to lose all its landmarks?
    Makarevich showed the way to everyone who disagreed.
    1. +1
      29 December 2023 23: 34
      Quote from Hiker
      We all see how in the West society punishes Hollywood libertines
      and they lose everything, reputation, money, etc.

      Are you confusing anything? Or have they forgotten about the norms for the presence of “dovecote” inhabitants in the Oscar nominees and in the administration of the President of the United States? Or have you forgotten the denial of mom and dad and the imposition of parents #1 and #2? Or did you forget that there are a bunch of floors? Or have you forgotten about the legalization of same-sex marriage? Or have you forgotten about allowing adoption by such, God forgive me, “families”?
  9. +1
    28 December 2023 14: 04
    I agree with the author, this happened (except for the USSR where there was no sex) is and will be, it’s just that the authorities found something to distract (haven’t you come across headlines on a “hot topic”, but the article is about something completely different?) people from their problems.
    1. +2
      28 December 2023 16: 55
      (except for the USSR where there was no sex)

      Well, everyone is responsible for themselves. How did your parents conceive you? Or are they your grandparents?
      And under the USSR all this happened. But it didn’t stick out. Our regional library was located next to the pedagogical institute. So in the men's toilet of this library there were so many thematic inscriptions...
      Who is ready to do what to whom and where. With phones!
      The ped (for obvious reasons) had an excess of girls. So some characters (from satiety) were carried in the wrong direction. And among students, when they talked about students of the pedagogical institute, they called them affectionately: “our fagots.” Well, exclusively in the sense of students of the relevant institute...
      Nowadays you can easily find memories of the morals of artists of the Soviet period on the Internet. After this, I don’t know who you have to be to say that there was no sex in the USSR. Some kind of stupidity came out during a teleconference 35 years ago, and everyone is repeating it now. She didn’t have sex - this is her personal grief, there is no need to drag in the rest.
      But outwardly everything was decent. There was an article, but I did not hear that it was applied. You just had to behave within the limits.
      And people with normal orientation did not deny themselves anything. At home, in an intimate setting.
      The state did its best to encourage an increase in the birth rate...
      1. -1
        28 December 2023 17: 52
        Nn-yes, you can’t say anything allegorically, you won’t understand, well, that’s your problem, you have to live with it.
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      3. 0
        29 December 2023 22: 04
        And you also repeat this nonsense?!
        How many times has Vladimir Pozner himself, the co-host of the TV show with Phil Donahue, explained that she didn’t say that, but people can be stupid and primitive...

        There was a teleconference with Boston (USA). From there, an elderly lady said that her grandson constantly stares at the TV, which shows violence and sex. And she doesn't know what to do about it!

        Do you have such a problem?

        - the lady asked.

        Here this Lyudmila Ivanova answered:

        We don't have sex...

        - and at that moment the whole hall burst out laughing... Of course, it was funny. Posner explained (quote):

        And she wanted to say that THERE WAS NO SEX ON TELEVISION—namely, on television—and that was absolutely true. After all, in those years there was practically no sex on Soviet television. And there was no violence either. But no one heard the end of the phrase...

        - end of quotation.

        So you write here:

        Some kind of stupidity came out during a teleconference 35 years ago, and everyone is repeating it now. She didn't have sex - this is her personal grief...

        Someone once blurted out something stupid, and you, like him, mindlessly repeat it. And a woman who cannot answer you, cannot slap you in the face, you announce publicly d... etc.
        Not good, sir!
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    2. 0
      29 December 2023 23: 35
      Quote: nike
      USSR where there was no sex

      Everyone modestly keeps silent about the fact that this phrase has a continuation: “but we are working on it.”
  10. +3
    28 December 2023 14: 04
    Stars? Pensioners publicly shaking their naked, decrepit, wrinkled bodies? They need to see a doctor, not go to the stage.
    1. 0
      29 December 2023 22: 07
      Someone labeled this annoying crowd that has been looming on screens for decades, blocking the way for young talents, with the term “stars from the crypt,” they say, it’s time to return to their places.
  11. +1
    28 December 2023 15: 32
    There is nothing to do but discuss the naked party. This is the first time I read an article on this topic. I don’t think there should be heated discussion and interest in this party. By doing this we raise interest in its participants. There probably needs to be some kind of ethics committee in the Ministry of Culture that would deal with such things.
  12. +1
    28 December 2023 15: 33
    Sand talked to Kirkorov....????? AND THAT'S ALL. It looks like the roof of our vulgarity has lit up.
  13. 0
    28 December 2023 15: 36
    Listening to Solovyov, I observed some swings regarding Galkin. At first, someone in the investigative committee decided that there were no claims against this gentleman, and if so, there was no trial. After Solovyov’s angry statement on the air in the evening about how some people there were crazy! And in the morning it was said on air (by Solovyov) that Bastrykin was personally involved in this. I would like to conclude: in the film “Don’t Leave...” after the rose comes to life in your hands; kind, honest, beautiful, naive and in love maid Marcella, and upon hearing this aroma no one could lie. When the aroma touched the colonel and the soldiers (who were tipsy), they wanted a holiday as their souls demanded, with which they turned to the king: “You have artists there in the dungeon - singers, we should have them here.... I don’t understand what happened to these employees and why exactly the traitor Galkin was needed from abroad. Bastrykin (as the last resort), he is not susceptible, as in the film, to the smell and holidays and works twenty-four hours a day, quickly and accurately, but no matter how one may say, he is not enough for everyone. And Kirkorov is such a cunning troubadour.
  14. +2
    28 December 2023 17: 26
    If it's a closed party, then that's their business, but if it's a show, then they don't understand the public's tastes well.
  15. +1
    29 December 2023 03: 32
    Alexey Lan

    There is nothing to do but discuss the naked party. This is the first time I read an article on this topic. I don’t think there should be heated discussion and interest in this party

    Yes Yes Yes. if only we didn't get the Streisand effect.

    seems like a distraction. from something!?
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  17. +1
    29 December 2023 17: 34
    Ugh, don’t remember what Admiral Kolchak said about coachmen, artists and corrupt women:

    Do not touch artists, coachmen (taxi drivers) and prostitutes - they are equally needed by any government.
  18. 0
    29 December 2023 21: 35
    I read some interesting information here. (with examples)
    According to the lists, there were about 150 people invited. (150 million, not bad, right?)
    It came smaller. 5-7 people judge out loud. And the rest are quickly removed from photo and video reports, because... "elite", low
  19. 0
    29 December 2023 23: 50
    You revere the local regulars - they are all so white and fluffy that there is nowhere to put a seal confirming their holiness. And if you scratch the self-gilding, you won’t see anything: they don’t swear at home, but they talk obscenely, including in front of children; they drink on playgrounds; on the bus they will not give up a seat to women or people with disabilities; at 7 am they joyfully wake you up with a hammer drill; at 23:XNUMX they entertain their neighbors with rap and rock with no less enthusiasm; they don’t hesitate to give a damn at the entrance; They are rude to your children’s teachers and doctors who are trying to treat you, and other delights. Disgrace! Take care of yourself, Neanderthals! You'll see that there will be fewer such parties.
  20. -1
    30 December 2023 10: 47
    After this party, 1937 should come for the Ministry of Culture.
    The dominance of pornography and debauchery in culture is the result of the lack of a healthy ideology in the country.
    And don’t say that power has nothing to do with it.
    1. 0
      30 December 2023 11: 30
      I read at Zen the revelations of one, “forgive me, Lord...”

      They took me into the pool (and there was no way to escape. The door slammed shut), and there were 16 men there. among them were deputies who are shown on television every day... and we believe them.

      That's what she wrote.
  21. 0
    31 December 2023 09: 26
    After Bandera’s attack on Belgorod, after the death of children, the “naked” party seems even more disgusting and base.
    And these show business scum look even more disgusting.
  22. -1
    31 December 2023 13: 51
    I previously thought that the little dog /young/ was a fake, but “Mutabor” convinced me that she was real! LIKE her mother and oh dear to them, both, in the opinion of Russian friends, go to a brothel, work on cots
  23. 0
    16 January 2024 16: 25
    Understand and forgive and send to Magadan to grow spring bananas and winter coconut palms
  24. 0
    25 January 2024 14: 47
    Of course, Galkin can return, but then what? The foreign agent, and the prosecutor’s office did not say the final word. He will go to the courts to prove that he is not a camel. He has already had many disruptions to his performances in the West, but in Russia where will he eat? May he not come to Russia. They sold everything here and closed their accounts. All.