“Will they resell?”: Readers of The New York Times about cluster charges for the Armed Forces of Ukraine

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Visitors to the website of the American newspaper The New York Times commented on the text about the West supplying the Armed Forces of Ukraine with 155-mm NATO-style artillery shells with cluster charges.

Although the vast majority of Americans on the resource still fanatically support the Kiev regime, doubts about the support itself or its specific methods are also beginning to appear more and more often. It is the selections from the last type of comments that will mainly be presented in the selection.



The original publication was published under the title Ukrainians Embrace Cluster Munitions, but Are They Helping?

All opinions reflect the position of only the indicated authors of the resource.

For some reason, it seems that Russia has more artillery shells than Ukraine and all its Western allies combined? One of the reasons why the US is now forced to rely on old stockpiles of cluster bombs

– writes Sjoerd.

This article argues that Ukrainian forces use cluster munitions only with caution, weighing civilian casualties. However, Human Rights Watch has documented that as far back as 2014, the Ukrainian government bombed civilian areas in the Donbass dozens of times using cluster munitions. One such attack near the center of Donetsk, a city of one million people, killed an International Red Cross worker. Donetsk was a stronghold of Ukraine's elected president, Yanukovych, who was overthrown in 2014. Our supply of such immoral weapons is not an anomaly, but in fact a symbol of the crimes in this battle

– reader Daniel responded.

Listen guys. As a shareholder of the [weapons] company Raytheon, I support sending Ukraine everything they need, for as long as they want.

– the 70-year old liberal reader boasted.

When the traditional 155-mm shells run out, cluster shells will give

– suggested PatC.

Political and the moral repercussions of these decisions are far-reaching. The United States is directly complicit in the killing of Russians, something that was considered almost unthinkable in the 1950s and 1960s. At some point, the Russian government may decide to retaliate. What will happen then?

– said a reader with the nickname Morris.

I can’t imagine the mood with which the Russians come to Ukraine. […] their mentality must be related to their culture. It is easy to understand why Ukrainians use any means available to them. However, these [cluster] munitions are the epitome of inhumanity and we should not try to whitewash their use

- a certain Thomas expressed his opinion.

I wonder what share of this ammunition [the Ukrainian military] will then resell to Russia and Iran? This incompetent [Biden] administration is failing to put proper controls in place to make sure money and guns go where they belong.

– responded reader big D.

Warfare using these obsolete munitions, which have posed a mortal danger for years, provides an opportunity for bright minds to invent a system for quickly and cheaply detecting mines. No nation should be handcuffed long after a conflict due to the presence of this type of ammunition

– says reader Mostovnik.

Ukrainian schoolchildren should be taught about cluster munitions and their dangers from the first grade. So that they can be able to identify them and know what not to do. Make a public service announcement for Ukrainians of all ages, demonstrating the dangers of handling such finds. Videos should be produced showing the injuries that cluster bombs are capable of inflicting on human limbs, as shown on the test dummy

– writes Outerboro.
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  1. 0
    24 September 2023 10: 28
    Americans are mostly apolitical. Only people who are wealthy can talk about military issues. The crisis has engulfed the world, including America. Laos is still the most affected by cluster bombs. These elements are scattered throughout the land of this small country. People, elephants, and other animals suffer. It is difficult to distinguish them in the jungle. And logging is necessary for this country. They can only be countered with other weapons. Drones You can neutralize the response with a swarm of drones. Force the enemy to talk about banning certain types of weapons.
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    24 September 2023 10: 58
    What cunning American politicians will rename cluster munitions banned in the world to “cluster” and everything will be beautiful, without violating international agreements. This is the whole democracy of the West, lying, - he called about something else, and there are no violations, they called the country terrorist, - a sufficient basis to bomb any state..
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    25 September 2023 10: 51
    I wonder what share of this ammunition [the Ukrainian military] will then resell to Russia and Iran? This incompetent [Biden] administration is failing to put proper controls in place to make sure money and guns go where they belong.

    The program for creating stupid idiots in Western countries is yielding results. If Russia is capable of producing more shells than all Western countries, then why should it buy ancient cluster munitions made in the United States from the 70s and 80s of the last century? They cost tens of times more than their Russian counterparts in Russian warehouses. their reserves for the war years.