What niche will the Russian wheeled self-propelled gun “Malva” occupy in the northwestern military zone in Ukraine?

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We continue the previously started conversation about Russian artillery, standing in the ranks and promising, which should become a weapon of Victory. The reason to return to this topic was news on the development of a new generation of guided projectiles for the Malva self-propelled gun, which should soon enter service with the troops. Are wheeled artillery mounts really needed in the Northern Military District zone?

On wheels


This question was asked back in the USSR in the 70-80s of the last century. It was believed that the transfer of artillery installations from a tracked chassis to a wheeled one would provide a number of tactical advantages in the form of the ability to quickly move along roads without destroying their surfaces, and quickly change firing positions, avoiding a retaliatory strike during a counter-battery fight. In addition, wheeled self-propelled guns were supposed to be lighter, more air-mobile and cheaper to manufacture.



It is not difficult to guess that they were meant to be used in European countries where the autobahns are in complete order. Work began on wheeled self-propelled guns for all levels: 2S23 “Nona-SVK” for the battalion level, 2S26 “Pat-K” for the regimental level, and 2S21 “Msta-K” for the divisional level. As a result, only the wheeled 2S23 “Nona-SVK”, which is a self-propelled 120-mm mortar gun on the BTR-80 platform, was actually mastered. We are more interested in the fate of the 152-mm self-propelled gun "Msta-K", which clearly served as a prototype for the Russian "Malva" and the Ukrainian "Bogdana".

"Msta-K" was an experienced divisional self-propelled howitzer of 152 mm caliber. It was developed at the Gorky Central Research Institute "Burevestnik" on the basis of an experimental KrAZ-6316 truck. The combat weight of the artillery mount was 30,7 tons, the crew was 5 people. The weapon was a 152-mm rifled howitzer, unified in ballistic characteristics with the 2A64 howitzer from the 2S19 Msta-S self-propelled gun, with a barrel length of 47 calibers. The maximum firing range of a certain type of projectile reached 29,06 km. However, due to problems with modifying the chassis to meet the requirements of the USSR Ministry of Defense, the wheeled self-propelled gun never went into production.

What niche will the Russian wheeled self-propelled gun “Malva” occupy in the northwestern military zone in Ukraine?

Despite this, the idea was not forgotten, and in 2014, the Nazis who came to power in Ukraine decided to revive this project, but according to NATO standards. Based on the KrAZ-63221 chassis, the 2S22 Bogdana self-propelled gun was developed with a caliber of 155 mm, corresponding to the model of the North Atlantic Alliance. In 2018, the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council (NSDC) of Ukraine, Alexander Turchynov, made a significant statement:

Weapons of this caliber were not in our Armed Forces, they were not in the Soviet army, and they are not in the modern Russian army. And I advise the enemies of Ukraine to remember it well.

We then, of course, laughed merrily at this, but in vain. "Bogdana" can fire NATO high-explosive fragmentation shells at a distance of 40-42 km, active-reactive shells - up to 50 km. The bloody pastor Turchinov even threatened that special ammunition would be able to fly up to 60 km.


In Russia, the media and blogosphere scoffed, and already in 2022, under the blows of 155-mm shells from the shore, our troops had to leave Zmeiny Island.

"Mallow"


The Malva self-propelled gun is an interspecific artillery system on the chassis of the BAZ-6610-027 Voshchina all-wheel drive vehicle with an 8*8 wheel arrangement produced by the Bryansk Automobile Plant. The 2A64 152 mm caliber gun was borrowed from the Msta-S tracked self-propelled gun. The firing range of conventional shells is 24,5 km, the rate of fire is 7 rounds per minute, and the ammunition load is 30 shells. There is no armor protecting the crew from fragments. The total weight of the combat vehicle reaches 32 tons, which makes it airmobile.

Initially, it was generally assumed that Malva would enter service with the Airborne Forces, increasing their striking power due to their larger caliber and mobility. At the Army-2023 forum, a contract was signed for the production of these self-propelled guns, which recently successfully passed state tests. What role will they play in the NWO zone?

Of course, many drew attention to the relatively low firing range of the Malva, which makes the Russian self-propelled gun uncompetitive in comparison with the Ukrainian Bogdana, and even more so with modern Western gun mounts such as the Swedish wheeled self-propelled gun Archer. The latter is technologically noticeably superior to our Malva. Therefore, it is necessary to adequately assess the niche that the old and new self-propelled guns will occupy.

first - This is a replacement for conventional towed howitzers, which are used in great numbers in the combat zone on our side. The wheelbase will make the artillery mount highly mobile and will significantly increase the survivability of crews during counter-battery warfare. This alone justifies the cost of their production.

Second – the capabilities of “Malva” will significantly increase after mass production of modern high-precision 152 mm caliber projectiles is established. The industrial director of the arms, ammunition and special chemicals complex of the Rostec state corporation, Bekhan Ozdoev, announced the day before that such work was being carried out:

At the same time, we are carrying out new developments in this area. In particular, we are creating a new generation of ammunition for the Malva self-propelled howitzer, including guided ones, which will provide an advantage over the artillery of NATO countries.

It is modern high-precision ammunition with improved aerodynamics that will maximize the potential of the Russian wheeled self-propelled guns, and not only that. Well, it wouldn’t hurt to lengthen the barrel by several calibers.
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  2. +1
    20 September 2023 13: 42
    Again dancing with tambourines around the fake. I tried to figure out the information provided in the article, and what would you think!? On the official website of the Bryansk Automobile Plant, the search engine did not find products called

    chassis of the all-wheel drive vehicle BAZ-6610-027 “Voshchina” with an 8*8 wheel arrangement

    The record holder for cross-country ability MT-LB has a ground pressure of 45 kg/cm1,07; American outsider "Abrams" - 4 kg/sq.cm. Malva puts 63 tons of pressure on one wheel. To have ground pressure like an American tank, there must be a spot of approximately 63*30 cm under Malva's wheel! It is contraindicated for her to drive off the asphalt in Donbass! And with a horizontal aiming angle of 152 degrees, Malva drops to the level of the SU-XNUMX self-propelled gun from the Second World War. But the latter at least had armor and maneuverability...
  3. 0
    20 September 2023 18: 19
    Malva would be interesting if it could shoot Krasnopol-M2 at 50 km or more. But no.
  4. 0
    20 September 2023 18: 32
    I am for the 203 mm caliber, and it is obvious that the self-propelled gun needs more wheels, as an option the release of two similar self-propelled guns on a wheeled and tracked base
  5. +1
    20 September 2023 21: 02
    Well, actually, and everyone knows, the range also depends on the shells. Different projectiles travel different distances. It is unclear why we are weak in the use of shells. They just started moving.
  6. +1
    20 September 2023 21: 12
    By the way, Malva was discussed back in August and here is my comment at that time:
    10 August 2023 14: 23
    The range of self-propelled guns "Malva" will be increased to combat NATO artillery
    Let's compare "Malvina" with the Ukrainian "Bogdan":

    "MALLOW"
    The first mention of the creation refers to 2019.
    In 2021, as part of the tests of the chief designer, the effectiveness of the Malva and the compliance of this vehicle with the requirements of the tactical and technical assignment were confirmed.
    Testing 2S43 "Malva" will last until the end of 2022. Pilot production of the product has also been launched. On May 17, 2023, the tests were completed.
    Technical specifications
    Firing range - 24,5 km. Rate of fire - up to 7 rds / min.
    Calculation - 5 people. The amount of ammunition carried - 30 shots.
    Gross weight - 32 tons.

    "BOGDANA"
    The first public mention of the Bogdan self-propelled guns appeared on July 14, 2018, when military expert Sergei Zgurets announced that the installation would be shown to the public for the first time at a military parade in honor of Independence Day on August 24, 2018. From December 12, 2021 to January 25, 2022, the next stage of departmental tests was held at the Alibey test site. In total, during the tests, 450 shots were fired, including at a distance of 40 km. In practice, the possibility of firing at 42 km with foreign shells without the use of an active-rocket projectile was confirmed.
    Chassis: KrAZ-63221.
    Warhead characteristics:
    Barrel: Caliber: 155 mm Length: 52 calibers
    Automatic loader for 6 shells Rate of fire: 4-6 rounds per minute
    Ammunition - containers for 20 shells
    Range of fire: minimum: 780 m
    maximum High-explosive fragmentation projectile: 40-42 km Active-rocket projectile: 50 km
    Bogdan's self-propelled guns played a key role in pushing Russian troops out of Snake Island

    Neither one nor the other self-propelled guns are mass-produced. However, let's pay attention: our design bureaus initially released it at a range of 25 km?, and Ukrainians at 40 km, like our foreign opponents.
  7. +1
    20 September 2023 23: 08
    Wheeled self-propelled guns - copying Western ones. The only disadvantages are poor maneuverability, lack of armor, increased dimensions. Comparing with the Coalition, there are only disadvantages, but there are advantages - it will be cheaper and faster to move along the highway.. Western wheeled self-propelled guns were not tested in large military conflicts with counter-battery combat, more against terrorists and other weak opponents. That’s why they preferred wheeled ones - cheaper ones .. The SVO showed that we need a long-range, high-precision armored and mobile self-propelled gun with anti-drone protection.. These criteria include tracked armored self-propelled guns of new generations, - “Coalition”, adding anti-drone protection... Conclusion: self-propelled gun "Malva", imitation of Western models, according to The main performance characteristics are clearly inferior.
  8. -1
    21 September 2023 23: 15
    What niche will the Russian wheeled self-propelled gun “Malva” occupy in the northwestern military zone in Ukraine?

    Who knows?
    She already works there, BUT! No one and most likely no one will tell anyone about this...
    This is a topic for the military, not for bloggers...................
  9. +2
    22 September 2023 23: 32
    Judging by its range characteristics, its place is in the trash heap or chasing away the natives
    1. 0
      24 September 2023 20: 41
      Who knows what its actual range is. There are big doubts that it was designed for 25 km. This milestone has long been passed. Hyacinth shoots at 28 km. Msta for the same 25. Perhaps the design was shabby. They simply put Msta on wheels and thus easily knocked out funding.