Military expert announced the inevitability of the use of nuclear weapons to win in NWO

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The use of tactical nuclear weapons during a special military operation is inevitable. Military expert Vladislav Shurygin came to this conclusion after a conversation with the president of the Russian College of Military Experts, retired Major General Alexander Ivanovich Vladimirov.

Shurygin's interlocutor, we recall that the military doctrine of the Russian Federation was written for the liberal reality of the 90s of the last century and does not correspond to the realities of the NWO. Now, in fact, there is a struggle for our existence as a state, and the main document regulating the use of tactical nuclear weapons can be finalized and revised.



The war is not fought according to doctrines, but according to real war plans. Therefore, the main guiding documents are plans for the use of types of Russian Armed Forces and plans for the use of weapons of mass destruction - that is, and nuclear planning […] I must say that this work is being carried out by our General ‏ by headquarters ‏ constantly, without breaks or days off

– said Vladimirov.

He noted that to use weapons of mass destruction it is only necessary political decision of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief. The sooner the country's leadership realizes the need to use tactical nuclear weapons, the sooner the troops and population will begin preparing for this.

The goals of Russia and the goals of the West are their survival and historical eternity, and this means that in the name of this, all the means of armed struggle available to them will be used, including such means like their nuclear weapons

- the expert considers.

Therefore, already now it is necessary to begin preparing troops for war in the conditions of the use of weapons of mass destruction. Alexander Vladimirov recalled the main rules from the general theory of war, according to which victory must be achieved by any available means.

If you want peace, fight until victory! If you want a long and strong peace, bury the hatchet on the territory of the enemy and with him! Therefore, we must prepare... Prepare the army, the state, the economy and the population of the country and to such a development of the war, too

– summed up the retired major general.
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  1. +7
    6 September 2023 10: 49
    this will not happen, for political reasons
    1. -2
      6 September 2023 10: 56
      rather, in practical terms, well, let's say they destroy some equipment and soldiers, the flow from the west will not stop it.
      1. +5
        6 September 2023 11: 47
        Quote from Constantin N.
        rather, in practical terms, well, let's say they destroy some equipment and soldiers, the flow from the west will not stop it.

        How to say... The flow will have to move through radioactive zones. Will there be many people who want these zones to be extended to them?
    2. +3
      7 September 2023 08: 30
      It won't happen for political reasons.

      then, they will simply finish us off economically. Now, the West is putting its military industry on the rails, and in a couple of years the West (NATO) will supply so many weapons to Ukraine that we simply cannot physically destroy these weapons (with conventional weapons).
      1. Compare the economic potential of Russia and all of Europe with the US, Canada and Australia.
      2. Compare the quantitative indicators of the population of Russia (145 million + 9 million Belarus) and the whole of Europe, the USA, Canada and Australia (1 billion 500 million)
      3. Compare the availability of weapons production facilities (plants and factories) that we have in Russia and there.
      4. Compare the level of equipment of THEIR enterprises (robotization and mechanization) and our enterprises, then it becomes clear that if the SVO does not end in the near future, then we are doomed.
      After all, a person’s head is not only for eating it, it also needs to be thought and compared.
      Therefore, understanding and realizing THIS, it is better to use tactical nuclear weapons today, while you still have the potential, and not when you realize that you will be gone a little more.
      You have to use it anyway! (after all, the end of the NWO is not visible, even in the near future).
      In addition, this will show our determination, if anything, then WE are ready to use strategic forces.
      ... this is a war to destroy Russia and the West will not back down, you shouldn’t expect miracles.
      Although, whether someone is smarter? .... then HE, in the deep rear of Russia (secretly from the eyes), could already prepare (in 1,5 years), the Breakthrough Army (500 thousand) And then, with a lightning throw, deliver this Army to the line of contact and "straight off the wheels" to throw IT into battle, to take the Western border of Ukraine under our control. And maybe then the CBO would have already ended. If, after, NATO does not launch direct aggression against Russia. Which is most likely.
      Wars in this world were not always won by the strong, wars can be won by cunning.
      1. +1
        7 September 2023 23: 13
        I hope you wrote about tactical nuclear weapons strikes while sitting in the trenches, on the front line?
        1. 0
          9 September 2023 22: 31
          Quote: Azzzwer
          I hope you wrote about tactical nuclear weapons strikes while sitting in the trenches, on the front line?

          Azzzwer, aren’t you writing from the trenches?!
  2. -1
    6 September 2023 10: 55
    Is the expert familiar with the UN Security Council resolution of June 19, 1968 to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons? In the event of a nuclear attack on a non-nuclear state or the threat of such an attack, the Security Council and, above all, its permanent members possessing nuclear weapons, will have to immediately strike Russia to repel the aggression. This is suicide for the Russian Federation. I don’t know why this topic is constantly discussed in the media.
    1. +3
      6 September 2023 11: 26
      UN

      ...ahma! Who is this UN today, an atavism of a bygone era?
      No one to call. This is first..
      Secondly, the nuclear part of the current World War III, which is currently being waged in the hybrid-local stage, will begin immediately after Madame Camille Hariss comes to power.
      Or after the sabotage of the Ukrainian Nazis at the ZNPP, or at Khmelnitsky, where it is even easier for them. And also, if they think up and hit Vypolzov's launchers, when the remaining ones are intact, they will immediately work on the USA.
      These are the realities ...
    2. +4
      6 September 2023 11: 53
      Quote: Rhetorical Rita
      In the event of a nuclear attack on a non-nuclear state or the threat of such an attack, the Security Council and, above all, its permanent members possessing nuclear weapons, will have to immediately strike Russia

      Well, if the involvement of nuclear NATO, on the territory of Ukraine, against Russia, goes further, then this resolution will be wiped out.
      1. +2
        6 September 2023 13: 35
        Before the NWO, it was already said that the West would not help Ukraine. And what? And now everyone can see where everything is going. Therefore, the brave became much more.
        1. -6
          7 September 2023 10: 36
          The use of tactical nuclear weapons by Russia will be the end of it as a state. The Kremlin understands this. But they have a dilemma - either use tactical nuclear weapons and hasten the end, or do it slowly, hoping for some kind of miracle. I think the second way is chosen.
          1. +1
            9 September 2023 22: 37
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            The use of tactical nuclear weapons by Russia will be the end of it as a state. The Kremlin understands this. But they have a dilemma - either use tactical nuclear weapons and hasten the end, or do it slowly, hoping for some kind of miracle. I think the second way is chosen.

            Monster_Fat, what kind of nonsense are you talking about?!
    3. 0
      6 September 2023 13: 52
      This is not why they will hit you for another reason, does that make you feel better?
    4. +3
      7 September 2023 08: 42
      Yes, what are you wearing))). First, what is the UN? Secondly, the Anglo-Saxons will never sign up to Ukraine at the risk of their lives. Thirdly, throughout the history of mankind, the world has been ruled by force, and nothing else.
      There is nothing to be afraid of. Russia will strike with tactical nuclear weapons, but NATO will immediately bomb and seize Syria, Armenia and a couple of other countries. But this is not important, the unification of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus is important, and then the whole world is not necessary. Yes, only with friendship with the Chinese and Iran, of course. And if the Germans catch up mmmm... This is exactly what the Anglo-Saxons are afraid of. Again, there is nothing to be afraid of at all; the Anglo-Saxons have something to lose compared to us. I think so.
    5. +8
      7 September 2023 09: 03
      should immediately strike at Russia.

      Firstly, tactical nuclear weapons are not strategic weapons. Secondly, in the event of a nuclear strike by NATO members on Russia, it will be the end not only for Russia, it will be the end for all of Western Europe and the USA and Canada. (or do you think that they don’t understand this and with a “smile on their lips” will launch a nuclear strike on Russia?)
      Now think about it! ..if the United States used nuclear weapons in Syria tomorrow, would Russia strike the United States with nuclear weapons? ............. no, I wouldn’t hit you. It’s the same about Ukraine - to die, this is not part of NATO’s plans, NATO’s plans include destroying Russia, and then plundering its natural resources. There is only one plan - to live happily and at the expense of others (in this case, they are trying this at the expense of the destruction of Ukraine). But in order to die at the same time - God forbid, they have something to lose. And if they lose, then there will be a chance, after some time, to try again.
    6. -2
      7 September 2023 14: 10
      Why didn't they hit the United States after Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
    7. 0
      9 September 2023 22: 35
      Quote: Rhetorical Rita
      Is the expert familiar with the UN Security Council resolution of June 19, 1968 to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons? In the event of a nuclear attack on a non-nuclear state or the threat of such an attack, the Security Council and, above all, its permanent members possessing nuclear weapons, will have to immediately strike Russia to repel the aggression. This is suicide for the Russian Federation. I don’t know why this topic is constantly discussed in the media.

      What resolutions?! What UN?! Russia long ago needed to send the UN along with its resolutions in three cheerful letters.
  3. +2
    6 September 2023 10: 59
    A military expert declared the inevitability of the use of nuclear weapons to win in the Northern Military District,

    It is not on this continent that nuclear weapons should be used, but somewhere in North America. Then maybe we can live peacefully for a couple of decades.....
    1. 0
      7 September 2023 14: 14
      Only first it will be useful to deal with the Ukrainian traitors!
      Which drones are launching in Moscow!
  4. -5
    6 September 2023 11: 30
    Chatterbox is not responsible for anything, including for his words. As soon as Moscow uses tactical nuclear weapons and the Russian Federation will become a real pariah of the planet, the disadvantages are many times greater than the short-term military effect.
    1. +8
      6 September 2023 12: 15
      Quote: Vlad55
      The Russian Federation will become a real outcast of the planet

      and the Yankees became outcasts after Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
      And we understand, THIS IS DIFFERENT...
    2. +1
      7 September 2023 14: 23
      Cancer can sometimes be cured.
      radical operation. After all, the war is going on because of the expansion of NATO to the east. So, in your opinion, is Russia expanding so that everyone hates it? And one more thing: who has recently been interested in the opinion of the "planet"?
      Now there is only one "planet" on earth - the USA!
  5. +9
    6 September 2023 11: 33
    Well, what if Kyiv is the first to use nuclear weapons in the form of a dirty bomb? Let's say in Moscow with the help of Taurus missiles (range 500) which sooner or later will end up in Bandera's hands. Isn't this a red line? Yes, she's just burgundy. And this option is quite real. Russia needs to prepare for the use of tactical nuclear weapons
    1. -1
      7 September 2023 08: 38
      Quote: Colonel Kudasov
      But what if Kyiv is the first to use nuclear weapons in the form of a dirty bomb?

      Well, apply and apply, what is there to mumble something? This is not a drone attack on the Kremlin and the President, it used to be. And what? And nothing.
      It is important to understand the initial incompatibility of forces and approaches to waging war.
      Where we spent ammunition according to Soviet standards, introduced savings, set up their production and raised our military-industrial complex - Zelya simply came to the owners with an outstretched hand and with the words "Give it!".
      Where we washed ourselves with blood and stopped cheer-attacks on the unnecessary ruins of Mukhoskov, Zelya sends more and more new waves of meat into them. He recruits old people, cripples, AIDS patients, psychos into the army. And he approaches the owners with an outstretched hand and with the words "Give!"
      Where we have a relatively restrained information campaign, they have a non-stop frenzy, according to the methods of Goebbels. With paranoia, witch hunts, demonization of the enemy, fictional victories and belief in miracle weapons. And showing scenes of how Zelya comes to the owners with an outstretched hand and with the words "Give!".
      But sooner or later his owners will get tired of it and in response to Zelino "Give it!" they will respond with a resounding "Die!"
      Because where they prevail, we work there. And sooner or later we will process the enemies into compost.
      1. +3
        7 September 2023 14: 28
        It would be nice to live up to that time for those who are at the forefront. You are clearly not writing from the first line of trenches.
        1. 0
          9 September 2023 22: 45
          Quote from imjarek
          It would be nice to live up to that time for those who are at the forefront. You are clearly not writing from the first line of trenches.

          imjarek, are you probably writing from the trenches?!
  6. +1
    6 September 2023 11: 42
    1. Nuclear weapons cannot be applied on the territory of Russia, where military operations are taking place today.
    2. Nuclear weapons cannot be applied, if the enemy begins to experience a shortage of ammunition and means of destruction and goes on the defensive. Nuclear weapons are a defensive resource.

    Combat operations in the Northern Military District are tactical and sluggish.
    Nothing threatens the existence of Russia if TOTAL - 200 thousand volunteers are enough for the Northern Military District.

    Why raise the topic of using nuclear weapons if Putin stated very clearly that we “have not yet started” with conventional conventional weapons.

    There is no talk of any military way of seizing or annexing any other part of Ukraine, except for the new 4 subjects. This is the official position.
    It is possible that with the capitulation of Ukraine there will be a division, but this is a speculative position about nothing.
    We can talk about nuclear weapons only in the event of a direct clash with NATO, which will not happen.
    1. +3
      6 September 2023 12: 17
      Quote from Hiker
      We can only talk about nuclear weapons in a direct collision with NATO, which will not happen.

      ...give a tooth? laughing
    2. +1
      7 September 2023 14: 30
      And you go to the front line, to Donetsk and Luhansk, and explain it to them there!
    3. +3
      7 September 2023 15: 00
      Quote from Hiker
      We can talk about nuclear weapons only in the event of a direct clash with NATO, which will not happen.

      And what is a direct clash with NATO? Weapons and NATO troops are fighting against us, all terrorist attacks on our territory are committed with the participation of NATO. If this is not a direct NATO war against us, then what is it?
  7. +3
    6 September 2023 12: 17
    the work is carried out by our General Staff constantly, without breaks or days off

    That's noticeable... :)
  8. +6
    6 September 2023 12: 25
    Yes, MO has an algorithm of actions, where everything is painted. But this is the edge. Well, what kind of chatter is when the conventional ones are fine? And they even try to keep going.
  9. +3
    6 September 2023 15: 42
    The use of nuclear weapons will definitely be. It was prepared for Judgment Day. He advances in this war, slowly and imperceptibly.
    1. 0
      6 September 2023 19: 44
      First, the dam on the Dnieper will completely collapse purely by chance... all the optimistic forecasts of its existence have long since come to an end. two areas will be washed away.
  10. 0
    7 September 2023 07: 40
    To take this to the iksperd and other couch analysts like him, but to the trenches, to the victorious.
    And then they unbelted themselves, then they say that it is urgently necessary to make a cheer-attack with all their might through a minefield under artillery fire, and now they remembered about tactical nuclear weapons.
    Yes, who is against, let's gasp. Only let our dear and beloved iksperds, in gas masks and with machine guns at the ready, be the first to drive through the contaminated territory into the breakthrough after the TNW strike. Let them explain to hard ionizing radiation that it is not dangerous, because the charge is weak and in general no one will stay in the contaminated area for a long time.
    1. +1
      7 September 2023 14: 38
      Hiroshima and Nagasaki live - and nothing! And Russia does not need the Ukrainian territory!
      Let it stand as a reserve for 100-200 years! Like the Chernobyl zone. Rumor has it it's not that bad. At least they don't fire 155 caliber around the clock!
  11. 0
    7 September 2023 09: 40
    Our "president" simply will not dare to use nuclear weapons in all its guises. Do you not see the line of his behavior in relation to the use of conventional means of explosives? But the presence of nuclear weapons as an ultimatum and the threat of its use must be present. To make it scary, to justify the ultimatum, it is desirable to drop (accidentally) on the territory of some non-state in the form of a Baltic dwarf, a shell from a land mine, or something else and warn that the subsequent strike will not be accidental, it will be full in parameters - megatons. The President to this day does not want or does not want to destroy the leadership of the 404 territory, the President does not want or does not want to destroy the most notorious crazy Nazis. The President is under the influence of a group of people who do not benefit from the victory of Russia and they persistently interfere with the military in the destruction of communication structures, railways, bridges. The President still does not understand that a fundamental change is needed in the principles of formation of the RF Armed Forces, a return to the most convenient structures for command and control. As in the years of taxiing a furniture maker, military educational institutions that trained officers, and not fully trained students in military affairs, continue to remain closed. For example, Ulyanovsk has 3 military schools. Guards tank, Engineering communications, Engineering technical. Do we have an excess of tank officers? We have no problems with the organization of communication? We have no problems with the delivery of fuel? It is quite realistic to open schools with a three-year term of study, even a two-year one, for the training of officers. But alas, what's stopping it? It will open and finance legal, financial, economic and other absolutely unnecessary educational institutions that no one needs, but we will stubbornly ignore the shortage of officers in wartime. So, we are waiting for the next understanding from the side of a potential adversary (enemy).
    1. +1
      7 September 2023 14: 53
      Russia throughout its history only warned. And she was afraid of "provocations".
      And she won the Great Patriotic War. True, the price of a return to Berlin from the banks of the Volga is a hell of a price! It's time to tie our president with his infantilism in old age! It's time to hit your "club" on the table so that the European and US "ship" breaks in two!
      And deal with Ukraine as with East Prussia in World War II!
      Turn it into the second "Kaliningrad region"!
  12. 0
    7 September 2023 09: 52
    and only Russia has nuclear weapons in the world?
    1. -1
      7 September 2023 14: 55
      How many Hiroshimas does Russia have on its account?
    2. 0
      9 September 2023 22: 53
      Quote: E320 4MATIC
      and only Russia has nuclear weapons in the world?

      "genius" question. fool E320 4MATIC, and to whom is this “brilliant” question addressed?
  13. +4
    7 September 2023 10: 35
    Well done comrades Kim Jong-un. Stick your head in, he says, let's go. And no one climbs on them, no doubt!
    And no one, Western fascists, puts our liberals in a penny. The country and the Russians have been destroyed economically, culturally, morally and physically for 35 years now!
  14. -1
    7 September 2023 13: 36
    le concept de first strile est primordial. c'est pour cette raison qu'un faux drapeau sera organisé pour justifier cette first strike. Donc si les cerveaux militaires existent, au moindre "first false flag" d'envergure, suffisant pour déclercher le feu nucléaire, c'est la guerre nucléaire tout azimut immédiatement après le false flag et non pas juste avant le déclenchement du feu nucléaire de first strike. c'est même pas 5 min de décalage mais dans un conflit nucléaire, il faut moins d'une seconde pour bruler l'ensemble de l'arsenal nucléaire c'est la livraison qui peut prendre jusqu a 20 min
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  15. +1
    7 September 2023 15: 21
    Maybe at first, declare war and not NWO? Then declare a general mobilization, then start using EVERYTHING we have except nuclear weapons and look at the current situation, and only then start scratching our heads?
  16. -2
    7 September 2023 17: 51
    Quote: Rhetorical Rita
    Is the expert familiar with the UN Security Council resolution of June 19, 1968 to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons? In the event of a nuclear attack on a non-nuclear state or the threat of such an attack, the Security Council and, above all, its permanent members possessing nuclear weapons, will have to immediately strike Russia to repel the aggression. This is suicide for the Russian Federation. I don’t know why this topic is constantly discussed in the media.

    Quote: Monster_Fat
    The use of tactical nuclear weapons by Russia will be the end of it as a state. The Kremlin understands this. But they have a dilemma - either use tactical nuclear weapons and hasten the end, or do it slowly, hoping for some kind of miracle. I think the second way is chosen.

    What can you say? This is some kind of fantasy: people who are called experts (!) offer wild solutions that do not take into account the military, political, economic and moral consequences of the use of nuclear weapons. At their core, such proposals either pursue the goal of intimidating the other side in a provocative way, or they are “multi-move moves” in the e2-e4 style, which are not able to assess the immediate and immediate results of a nuclear weapons strike...
  17. 0
    7 September 2023 19: 17
    As for nuclear weapons, what would Russia’s supporters choose: 100-300 thousand of our soldiers killed in another year or two or three wars and the collapse of the economy or a tactical nuclear weapons attack on Ukrainian facilities, which would stop Ukrainian resistance and, oddly enough, would preserve and the lives of Ukrainian Armed Forces fighters. And as for the retaliatory nuclear strike from NATO, don’t tell my cat. Your shirt is closer to your body. It is unlikely that the British want to be left without London, and the French without Paris.
  18. -1
    7 September 2023 19: 18
    I completely agree with the retired general.
    But ..
  19. 0
    8 September 2023 06: 25
    Yes, if a retired major general says this, and a military expert echoes him, then it's time for them to see a psychiatrist.
  20. 0
    9 September 2023 15: 38
    It is more important for whom, than, and how much to ship, so that no one decides to twitch. It’s clear that it’s not due to Mazepia. No, well, you can wait until the arrogant Saxons supply weapons of mass destruction in some form, and they will use them... And then Zakharova will reprimand them.... The Americans won’t get in because of the sixes
  21. 0
    9 September 2023 22: 59
    It was necessary to use tactical nuclear weapons against the armed forces a long time ago!