The transition to the Su-34 as a carrier will allow the hypersonic Kinzhal to be used more often

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The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has officially confirmed the first use of the Kinzhal hypersonic missile from a Su-34 fighter-bomber in the NVO zone. This event is remarkable in itself, since the “duckling” was not initially considered as a carrier, but at the same time it is significant, since it takes the hypersonic arms race to a new level.

Hit with a dagger


The general public learned about the Kinzhal hypersonic missile system during President Putin's memorable Address to the Federal Assembly, held in March 2018, when he undertook to frighten "Western partners" with his new missiles. Enemy propaganda ridiculed all this, calling it “cartoons,” but Russian hypersonic weapons turned out to be quite real.



For the first time, the Kinzhal was used during real hostilities in the NVO zone on March 19, 2022, when it was used to destroy the well-protected underground facility Ivano-Frankivsk-16, or Object 711, built in Western Ukraine back in the Soviet period for the storage of nuclear weapons. The specific purpose of this bunker determined its most powerful anti-nuclear protection. However, the Russian hypersonic missile, which has a huge kinetic speed, was able to break through it. Later, with the help of the "Dagger", it was possible to destroy the vaunted American Patriot air defense system.

Thus, hypersound has already contributed to the demilitarization of Nezalezhnaya. However, the use of "Daggers" on a truly massive scale, for example, in the Avdeevsk fortified areas, filled with multi-meter layers of concrete, did not become truly widespread. Why?

At first, like other "wunderwaffes", these missiles were produced in small series, which means they were very expensive.

Secondly, there was an acute shortage of carriers for such very specific weapons, which, in fact, need a first stage to launch. The supersonic fighter-interceptor MiG-31, our fastest aircraft, was chosen as this. In the MiG-31K version, it is no longer capable of conducting air combat or intercepting enemy cruise missiles, but only accelerates the "Dagger" and releases it at high altitude, setting the required starting speed. The problem is that the MiG-31 has not been produced for several decades, and only a few aircraft have been converted to carry hypersonic missiles.

Options were also considered with the fifth-generation Su-57 fighter and the Tu-22M3M bomber bomber. But even here there are some nuances: if you hang the "Dagger" under the Su-57, it will immediately lose its stealth properties on radars, losing its main advantage. Tu-22M3Ms were modernized with an eye to the use of other types of missiles.

So it was extremely infrequent to use converted MiG-31Ks for strikes with "Daggers", the take-off of which from Russian airfields was carefully observed by our "Western partners" using aerospace reconnaissance equipment, promptly transmitting information to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The use of Su-34 fighter-bombers as carriers of hypersonic missiles has its advantages and disadvantages.

On the one hand, in the K version, this aircraft, like the MiG-31K, can hardly be used to perform other fighter-bomber and assault missions, the specialization will be quite tough. Also, the disadvantages include the fact that the Su-34 will not be able to accelerate like a fighter-interceptor, giving the same starting speed.

On the other hand, some apparent loss of kinetic energy should not be so critical. Anti-aircraft missile systems capable of reliably intercepting an air target flying with such “Machs” do not yet exist. Also a big plus is that the Su-34 is mass-produced and is available in the troops in significant quantities. This will complicate the process of fixing the takeoff of aircraft carrying specific ammunition by means of space reconnaissance.

Race


In general, the use of hypersonic weapons in the NMD zone may soon become routine from an extraordinary event. It should be borne in mind that developments in the field of hypersound are also going on at this very time in the USA, France and other countries unfriendly to Russia.

Who knows if hypersonic weapons will end up in the hands of the Kyiv regime in the medium term? The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation does not know now how to reliably protect Moscow from Ukrainian kamikaze drones, what will happen next?

Judging by the current dynamics, Ukraine eventually gradually receives everything it asks for from its “Western partners”, with the exception, perhaps, of nuclear weapons. For now. Consequently, Russia needs to have not only a “sword”, but also a “shield”. But about whether it is possible to effectively defend against the enemy analogue of the "Dagger", and what role fighter-interceptors, Soviet and promising Russian, can play in this, it will be necessary to talk in more detail separately.
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  1. +1
    4 September 2023 17: 02
    For more frequent use, it is necessary to sharply increase the production of the "Daggers" themselves
    1. +1
      4 September 2023 17: 22
      It's time to create more widespread and cheaper hypersonic substitutes for the Daggers. "Caliber", with subsonic speeds, are becoming too knocked down by modern air defense. Glide bombs are good because they are cheap, but soon a “key” will be found for them. Out of competition are developments in hyper-speed weapons with carriers of the Su-34, Su-35, both modern and mass-produced. Conclusion: The war is making adjustments to weapons, and one of the main ones is high-precision and hyper-speed weapons. In tandem with high-speed aviation carriers they give excellent results.
  2. 0
    4 September 2023 18: 00
    And where did the decommissioned Poplars, Voyevoda, Sineva go?
  3. vap
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    4 September 2023 22: 45
    The problem is that the MiG-31 has not been produced for several decades, and only a few aircraft have been converted to carry hypersonic missiles.

    - Alas, this is not a "problem", but another "noodles on the ears" from agents of Western influence, for a sharp increase in the COST of a successful, extremely EFFECTIVE solution for "sharpening" the MiG-31 under the Dagger!
    AND THE FAILURE OF THE PROCESS OF FAST SATURATION OF OUR GROUP WITH IN-DEMAND SPEED (3 sounds), numerous (VKS has more than a hundred of them), and already almost gratuitous carriers (for other tasks, IA - MiG-31s ​​are already outdated ... And "equipping" them under the Dagger - cheap!
    The MiG-31 aircraft, which was half a century ahead of its time, at the end of its life cycle, finally FOUND ITS IDEAL fateful PURPOSE! .Verily — GOD is with us!

    I suspect that the equipment of the MiG-31 for Kinzhal was done without billions of dollars in research and development work, by the forces of the ITS in the TECh regiment (“for the same salary...”).. - No “kickbacks”, no “cutting”...
    — And what about the CONTAINMENT of Russia?! - This is the PROBLEM! But this is the problem of world liberalism !!!
    Apparently, for this, our "5th column" in the State Department of the LGBT was ratted on the tinsel hard ... So they "pulled an owl on the globe" and received a SUBSONIC (?!) carrier of the Su-34 is NOT a hyper-sonic Dagger, and the usual UR Iskander.
    To the saboteurs, the hyper-sound is “like a drum”... They should let Russia (and the RF Ministry of Defense) down and use money to swindle the trEb (the Su-34 is a brand new, expensive airplane.. the “cut” will be enough for two or three years!) - and then maybe and SVO will end ...!
    1. 0
      5 September 2023 12: 14
      (Vap) Lying on a military forum is pointless and indecent, the S-34 is supersonic, reaches 1,8M at an altitude, and also has improved stealth characteristics. Application will slightly worsen the characteristics of the "Dagger". Your fears are somewhat exaggerated.
  4. 0
    5 September 2023 02: 43
    Only a few aircraft have been converted to carry hypersonic missiles

    2023: 12 MiG-31K.
    1. There are still 30-40 MiG-31s ​​in stock that can be directed to the "K" version.
    2. Su-34 can carry 8 tons, and one "Dagger" for 5.8-6 tons on the central "pylon" just in time for the article.
    A speed of 1,500-1,800 km / h is quite suitable for the launch of the "Dagger".
    That is, you can add the MiG-31K, and you can and should put "Daggers" on the Su-34 without any alterations and loss of capabilities.
    And the article missed on both questions.
  5. vap
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    5 September 2023 18: 19
    C-34 supersonic, reaching an altitude of 1,8M, also has improved stealth characteristics. The use will slightly worsen the characteristics of the "Dagger"

    "S-34" instead of "Su-34" - a typo according to Freud! What in Russian means "God marks the rogue!" (defamation means to deceive). The problem with all armchair experts is “swallowing” advertising figures (without understanding the object itself and the conditions for registering these figures). Supersonic in the stratosphere with an output of 1,8M is with 50% remainder (4-5 tons lighter than take-off weight) and WITHOUT external loads (without bombs, missiles, and electronic warfare containers - another minus 6-8 tons).
    But with a 6-ton Dagger (and the resistance from its dimensions) on the external suspension unit, if it manages to go supersonic, it will probably be no more than 1,5-1,6M...
    The Su-34 will definitely NOT reach the Soviet bunker at a depth of 200m (as the MiG-31K did)!
    However, Tuzakov is trying to convince us that "Application (Su-34) will slightly worsen characteristics of the "Dagger"... From which it follows that "MINOR..."?! - How SIGNIFICANT!
    And the correct CONCLUSION will be this: Su-34 as a missile carrier, "MINOR..." IMPROVES the characteristics of the original ISKANDER missile from ground-based launchers.
    Therefore, “cutting” the dough for the conversion of the most in-demand Su-34 aircraft to carry the Dagger - stop! Because this leads to the diversion of forces and environments aimed at increasing the arbitrariness of the Su-34)!
    Who needs this “circus with tricks and substitution of concepts” will become clear if we consider the question:
    "Why is a heavy, expensive, almost subsonic Su-34 bomber offered as a carrier for the Dagger, which is not enough for very effective strikes with heavy gliding bombs??! And not the previous modifications of the same aircraft Su-27 and Su-30 (lighter and faster (-2,5 ,XNUMXM) and with the same engines), which in terms of characteristics are really more suitable for accelerating the Dagger to hypersound?!
    And the PRICE of these modifications is several times less! Obviously in "too low price“such carriers are the “dog buried” of liberalism... After all, they should restrain the growth of Su-34 production, and dilute the RF Ministry of Defense with money... And so that the result of “cutting” the Bendery bunkers to a depth of 200m does not break through!
    The safety of the clown and his successors is a priority for the LGBT State Department!
  6. vap
    0
    5 September 2023 19: 04
    "The S-34 is supersonic,... also has improved stealth characteristics...

    Oh, these mythical invisible people...! — Most of all, they impress those for whom other TI characteristics are like “white noise” from numbers..
    - And who needs this “invisibility” one and a half thousand kilometers from the combat area?!
    After all, the launch line for the Dagger is deliberately planned outside the area for detecting enemy air defense systems (radar, air defense systems). And the carrier of the Dagger should not (and therefore cannot) get into the “missile missile launch zone” of the enemy’s air defense (where low visibility is useful) under any circumstances!
    Therefore, the “invisibility” of the carrier only complicates the work of its forces and assets of the Russian Aerospace Forces in flight control. And the Su-34 does not add bonuses as a carrier of the Dagger.
  7. vap
    0
    5 September 2023 19: 17
    "S-34 is supersonic, it reaches 1,8M at a height, it also has improved stealth characteristics. The use of [b] will slightly worsen the characteristics of the Dagger / i]

    “S-34” instead of “Su-34” is a typo according to Freud! Which in Russian means “God marks the rogue!” (to defame means to deceive).
    The problem with all armchair experts is “swallowing” advertising figures (without understanding the object itself and the conditions for obtaining these figures).
    Supersonic in the stratosphere with an output of 1,8M is with 50% remainder (4-5 tons lighter than take-off weight) and WITHOUT external loads (without bombs, missiles, and electronic warfare containers - another minus 6-8 tons).
    But with a 6-ton Dagger (and the resistance from its dimensions) on the external suspension unit, if it manages to go supersonic, it will probably be no more than 1,5M...
    The Su-34 will definitely NOT reach the Soviet bunker at a depth of 200m (as the MiG-31K did)!
    However, Tuzakov is trying to convince us that “The use of (Su-34) will [i]slightly worsen the performance
    "Dagger"... From what does it follow that "INSIGNIFICANT..."?! — Analysis of the Dagger’s power supply shows that “Even so SIGNIFICANT!”
    Therefore, the correct CONCLUSION will be this: Su-34 as a missile carrier, "SIGNIFICANTLY..." IMPROVES the characteristics of the original ISKANDER missile from ground-based launchers.
    Therefore, “cutting” the dough to convert the most in-demand Su-34 aircraft to the Dagger carrier does not make sense, and should be stopped!
    Because this leads to the diversion of forces and environments aimed at increasing the arbitrariness of the Su-34)!
    Who needs this “circus with tricks and substitution of concepts” will become clear if we consider the question:
    “Why are they offering a heavy, expensive, almost subsonic Su-34 bomber to carry the Dagger, which is not enough for very effective strikes with heavy glide bombs??!
    And not the previous modifications of the same aircraft, Su-27 and Su-30 (lighter and faster (-2,5M) and with the same engines),
    which characteristics are really more suitable for accelerating the Dagger to hypersound?!
    And the PRICE of these modifications is several times less! Obviously, the “too LOW PRICE” of such speakers is the “little dog” of liberalism...
    After all, they should restrain the growth of Su-34 production, and dilute the RF Ministry of Defense with money... And so that the result of “cutting” the Bendery bunkers to a depth of 200m does not break through!
    The safety of the clown and his successors is a priority for the LGBT State Department!

    "The S-34 is supersonic,... also has improved stealth characteristics...

    Oh, these mythical invisible people...! — Most of all, they impress those for whom other TI characteristics are like “white noise” from numbers..
    - And who needs this “invisibility” one and a half thousand kilometers from the combat area?!
    After all, the launch line for the Dagger is deliberately planned outside the area for detecting enemy air defense systems (radar, air defense systems).
    And the carrier of the Dagger should not (and therefore cannot) get into the “missile missile launch zone” of the enemy’s air defense (where low visibility is useful) under any circumstances!
    Therefore, the “invisibility” of the carrier only complicates the work of its forces and assets of the Russian Aerospace Forces in flight control. And the Su-34 does not add bonuses as a carrier of the Dagger.
    1. +1
      5 September 2023 21: 20
      Replica. Excuse me, there is no need to vent to your flow of words. To convince a confident person of his unshakable rightness is an empty business. Note - as you have with the Su-34 "subsonic", when supersonic is written everywhere. And if specialists created the carrier of the "Dagger" without asking you, it turned out to be a big omission in our aircraft industry ...
  8. 0
    7 September 2023 00: 19
    et pourquoi pas une version terrestre avec le lanceur chinois electro magnétique?
  9. 0
    28 September 2023 18: 43
    The topic is good, since the Su-34 can be modernized, the engine can be accelerated, aerodynamics can be improved, and the Dagger can be launched from a shallow dive, there are many options..