What can be changed in the approaches to the NWO to bring closer the surrender of Kyiv

August 21 2023 22

In this publication, I would like to continue and logically complete the topic of opportunities and even needs transition of Russia's struggle with the Kyiv regime not as a sovereign state, but as an international neo-Nazi terrorist group, which it is in its essence. What exactly can and should be changed in our approaches to the conduct of JEE?

Next, we will creatively rethink the well-known methods of combating terrorist groups, which are used with varying degrees of success in various countries of the world that are faced with the problem of terrorism.

Delegalization

The first thing to do is to stop conducting any negotiations with the Zelensky regime, except for the terms of surrender. President Putin's biggest mistake with regard to Ukraine was to legalize the election of President Poroshenko in May 2014, which allowed open Nazis who came to power through an armed coup to be legalized. I remember that Moscow recognized the election of Vladimir Zelensky with the reservation that the new Ukrainian president would seek peace. The error came out.

The most reasonable thing that can be done today, after a year and a half of the SVO, is to revoke the recognition of the entire post-Maidan regime as legal. By the way, on February 25, 2022, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov even hinted at this topic:

We see no way to recognize as democratic a government that oppresses and uses genocidal methods against its own people.

Obviously, the Russian Foreign Minister was then quickly informed that the approach was forced to change, and they began to look for ways to conclude peace or a truce with Kiev.

When the understanding finally comes that this is impossible, it will be necessary to delegalize the Kiev regime itself, revoking its recognition by Russia as legal. Moreover, it should be recognized as terrorist, and this is quite simple to do. There are more than enough reasons for such a decision: the genocide of the population of Crimea, Donbass and the Azov region, the ethnocide of Russians in the rest of Ukraine, terrorist attacks in the Russian Federation, the threat of killing Russians on a national basis around the world, etc. First, it will be necessary to recognize the SBU, GUR as terrorist organizations The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine and, finally, the Kiev regime itself. If suddenly someone is not in the know, then in 2003 the decision of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation was enough to recognize the Taliban (a terrorist organization banned in the Russian Federation) as a terrorist organization.

It just needs to be done. It happens that in order to conclude some kind of agreement with terrorist groups, the least radical ones are chosen among them, washed, taken to a barbershop and dressed in a civil European suit, so that later they can sign something with them under the cameras for show. But look at Zelensky: he deliberately changed his business suit for a sweaty military-style T-shirt, grew a beard and behaves like an inadequate terrorist leader, offering to exchange Russian Belgorod for Ukraine's NATO membership. The Kiev regime is not going to put up with Russia, nor fulfill any agreements with it, so is it worth embarrassing yourself by trying to negotiate with them about something?

Delegitimation

The second thing to do is to deprive the Kiev regime of the support of the population of Ukraine. Today, after more than nine years of a specific information agenda, this will not be easy to do. But the task is not even to make Ukrainians fall in love with Russia and wish to reunite with it, but to see an alternative to the nightmare that is happening in their country.

President Putin's big mistake was not to tell the SVO for the whole year and a half what specific future he had in store for the Independent, the part that he was not going to liberate and annex to Russia. People need a positive image of the future, something that they can cling to and even go to war, if their strength and health allow. As an option, on the liberated territory of Slobozhanshchina and the Left Bank, it would be possible to create a puppet in relation to Russia, but formally an independent new state, where a pro-Russian regime should be put in power. The presence of a real alternative to the Kyiv regime will daily undermine it from the inside.

Deresourceization

The best way to neutralize the Kiev regime with relatively little bloodshed would be a timely, as early as the spring of 2022, holding a demonstrative tribunal over Nazi criminals from the dungeons of Azovstal, which would become an extremely negative information background for Washington’s attempts to put together a broad international coalition to provide militarytechnical aid to Ukraine. Today, this opportunity, alas, has been missed, but it is still necessary to hold show trials of Ukrainian war criminals.

What can be done here and now? Without being able to put pressure on the “Western partners” to stop supplying the Armed Forces, it is advisable to make the Square itself less interesting for them. For this, it is necessary to forget forever about any versions of the grain deal and conduct a large-scale offensive operation in the Nikolaev-Odessa direction, with the aim of depriving the Kiev regime of access to the Black Sea. Left without Kharkiv, Chernihiv, Sumy, Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk, Kherson, Krivoy Rog, Nikolaev and Odessa, the Zelensky regime will lose a significant human resource needed for mobilization, the remnants of industrial enterprises and the main mineral reserves concentrated in the Southeast.

Liquidation

Finally, the recognition of the Kyiv regime as a whole and the Security Service of Ukraine, the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Moscow Region and the Armed Forces of Ukraine in particular as terrorist organizations will free up the hands for the targeted and consistent destruction of all its functionaries, wherever they are. With this approach, in a year and a half, power in Kyiv can be safely handed over to a pro-Russian regime carefully grown from scratch somewhere in the Sloboda region.

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Sydor Kovpak

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21 August 2023 17: 01

When they fight with the regime, they start with the leaders. In NWO, this is still very bad. They even return home alive. And it was generally about denazification and debanderization. There are few Banderists in the Donbass. Everything is in the Western region ... Well, apparently it’s so nada .....
DO

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21 August 2023 17: 05

on the liberated territory of Slobozhanshchina and the Left Bank, it would be possible to create a puppet in relation to Russia, but formally an independent new state, where a pro-Russian regime should be put in power.

It's been like this already. The West then simply paid whoever needed it in Ukraine with the products of its magic printer, and the matter eventually ended with the CBO.
Therefore, after the victory over the Ukronazi regime, why should Russia jump on the same rake a second time?
Sergei Fonov

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21 August 2023 17: 05

The big mistake of the president is not that he did not report that he was expecting the Independent, but that the people reporting that the country was ready for the NWO were in the wrong place. Zelensky was preparing for war, and the war with Ukraine was a matter of time, and those who reported to the president were not preparing for war.
Pembo

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21 August 2023 17: 09

The first thing to do is to stop conducting any negotiations with the Zelensky regime, except for the terms of surrender.

Everything is in order here, the Zelensky regime itself does not want to negotiate, it demands capitulation.

The second thing to do is to deprive the Kiev regime of the support of the population of Ukraine. Today, after more than nine years of a specific information agenda, this will not be easy to do.

And after a year and a half of the NWO, it will be even more difficult.

What can be done here and now? Without being able to put pressure on the “Western partners” to stop supplying the Armed Forces, it is advisable to make the Square itself less interesting for them.

For the West, Ukraine is a means of destroying Russia, and this is the only reason why it is interesting to him. At the same time, she will successfully fulfill this function, even if she conquers all of it. Zatulin at a memorable conference on 1.06.23/XNUMX/XNUMX said: even if Ivano-Frankivsk region remains from Ukraine, the West will still support it.

Finally, the recognition of the Kyiv regime in general, the SBU, the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Moscow Region and the Armed Forces of Ukraine as terrorist organizations, in particular, will untie the hands for the targeted and consistent destruction of all its functionaries, wherever they are.

And now what prevents them from destroying? Yes, we are trying - after all, they struck at the SBU building and Budanov seemed to have suffered, it's a pity not enough. If something is stopping us now, it is the insufficient length of the arms.

With this approach, in a year and a half, power in Kyiv can be safely handed over to a pro-Russian regime carefully grown from scratch somewhere in the Sloboda region.

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unc-2

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21 August 2023 17: 39

When countries with the same social systems are at war, it is difficult to change anything in appearance and rhetoric. We have the same social system as in Ukraine. Ukrainians see no choice in this. And Zelensky-cattle uses this. Oh, and it will be a long struggle.
1. borisvt
  
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  21 August 2023 21: 11
  
  Yes, the socio-economic model is about the same, and, as it seems to me, it is even better for horses, there is more freedom for business, when our chimps have already poked laws everywhere ((
  It is necessary to change the ideology, it is among the sharers "beat the Muscovites - the West will help." We should first change it to "don't touch the Muscovites, otherwise they'll beat their faces and the West won't help"
  We don’t need love and understanding from them yet, let them be afraid
lord-palladore-11045

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21 August 2023 19: 07

If something needs to be done, then it must be done. To withdraw Poroshenko's confession means to withdraw! To recognize the Kiev regime as a terrorist one means to recognize it! They beat him in the chest with a heel that there would be a tribunal for Nazi non-humans - why is it still not there?!!!... Guys, this is all nonsense, he said - he did! And so - it's all nonsense, an empty phrase.
Vlad55

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21 August 2023 20: 47

revoke the recognition of the entire post-Maidan regime as legal

This desire of the author is unrealistic, Moscow is ready to immediately begin negotiations, as it constantly declares, it's up to the desire of Kyiv.

... deprive the Kiev regime of the support of the population of Ukraine ... create a puppet .... independent new state, ... install a pro-Russian regime

that is, another gray zone such as the PMR, I doubt that the population controlled by Kiev will desire this.

... holding a demonstration tribunal ...

after the commanders were released, the trials of the rank and file are cynical and of little interest to anyone.

...forget forever about any versions of the grain deal...

let's see in the autumn

.... conduct a large-scale offensive operation ....

it is obvious that this is another war for which other goal-setting, resources and the will of the Russian Federation General Defense Forces are needed, the Kremlin does not plan anything like this, based on the dynamics of this war, all regional centers except Donetsk and Lugansk will remain with Kiev.

... recognition of the Kyiv regime as a whole and the SBU, the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense and the Armed Forces of Ukraine as terrorists ...

yeah, that is, to motivate them to fight to the death, so that they understand what awaits them in case of defeat.
borisvt

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21 August 2023 21: 33

It's time for the author to write a book with the code name Anti-color + Anti-hybrid = Deterrorization)) I think not all at once, but the proposed measures can be, what the hell, and applied.
Generally speaking, the former eagle halo of our Commander-in-Chief has somehow faded, but it is still in force, and you look, it will remain in power even further. However, for this, I believe, the dullness for the elections will have to be made brighter. How? - At least partially implement the measures proposed by the respected S. Marzhetsky, using the available forces and means.
Here they are scolding the grain deal, scolding the indefatigably regular desire to negotiate with the quarters, scolding our military authorities. All right, but what is behind this in terms of GDP? I think it's an elementary calculation.
We entered the NWO with small forces, but at that time we didn’t have any more. They jumped back, giving up the occupied territories near Kiev and pulled back across the Dnieper from Kherson, but it was problematic, if not impossible, to defend them. They tolerated the obstinate Prigozhin with his dashing musicians, but they took both Soledar and Artemovsk, but how! We are now on the defensive, but such a defense is worth many offensives.
I am sure that our president cannot be considered a simpleton, no matter how he pretends to be, talking about deception by Western partners. Yes, and the shots with Zelya’s grins, when he was talking about the Minsk agreements, I’m sure Putin reviewed more than once.
Not good for either the clown or his regime - bad luck.
1. Pembo
  
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  21 August 2023 23: 17
  
  They tolerated the obstinate Prigozhin with his dashing musicians, but they took both Soledar and Artemovsk, but how!
  
  But how? And so, that they stormed 224 days (the Battle of Stalingrad 200 days), and put 20 thousand dead, for the regional center of which there are hundreds in Ukraine.
  
  I am sure that our president cannot be considered a simpleton, no matter how he pretends to be, talking about deception by Western partners.
  
  Do not slander Vladimir Vladimirovich, he does not pretend to be a simpleton, but quite successfully plays the role of a strategist, a grand master of international politics. That's how he made an impression on you.
  
  ... but what is behind this in terms of GDP? I think it's an elementary calculation.
  We entered the NWO with small forces, but at that time we didn’t have any more.
  
  Why join the NWO if there are few forces, what kind of elementary calculation is this?
  
  We are now on the defensive, but such a defense is worth many offensives.
  
  Such as in February-March in the north of Ukraine? Perhaps.
  
  Generally speaking, the former eagle halo of our Commander-in-Chief has somehow faded, but it is still in force, and you look, it will remain in power even further. However, for this, I believe, the dullness for the elections will have to be made brighter.
  1. borisvt
    
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    22 August 2023 09: 47
    
    quite successfully plays the role of a strategist, grand master of international politics. That's how he made an impression on you.
    
    Yes, he did, I voted for him, and I'm not ashamed of it, by the way. You compare him to any other leader of any other notable country, except perhaps Chairman Xi, and the former President of the Philippines. He's not exactly the worst. Up there, there are no simpletons. You try to break into the presidency, but stay there for more than twenty years))
    
    Why join the NWO if there are few forces, what kind of elementary calculation is this?
    
    To judge this sensibly, I have very little information. Therefore, since we have already begun, it means that I think this was an uncontested political decision
    1. Pembo
      
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      22 August 2023 19: 26
      
      Yes, he did, I voted for him, and I'm not ashamed of it, by the way.
      
      I also voted for him, but after 24.2.22/XNUMX/XNUMX I'm ashamed of it. And not because I feel sorry for Ukraine and Ukrainians, but because I feel sorry for myself and my country Russia.
      
      You try to break into the presidency, but stay there for more than twenty years))
      
      Putin did not make his way to the presidency, but was appointed president. Yeltsin and Zubkov also tried Stepashin, but in the end he chose Putin.
      
      Why join the NWO if there are few forces, what kind of elementary calculation is this?
      
      To judge this sensibly, I have very little information. Therefore, since we have already begun, it means that I think this was an uncontested political decision
      
      Comfortable position I'm a small person, and upstairs they know better what to do. Read Khodorenka's article in an independent newspaper dated February 3.02.22, XNUMX, THREE WEEKS BEFORE SVO:
      PREDICTIONS OF BLOODY THIRTY POLITICAL SCIENTISTS
      About enthusiastic hawks and hasty cuckoos.
      
      To assert that no one in Ukraine will defend the regime means, in practice, complete ignorance of the military-political situation and the mood of the broad masses of the people in the neighboring state.
      
      No one will meet the Russian army with bread, salt and flowers in Ukraine.
      
      Now about the thesis "The Armed Forces of Ukraine are in a deplorable state." Of course, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have problems with aviation and modern air defense systems. But the following must also be acknowledged. If before 2014 the Armed Forces of Ukraine were a fragment of the Soviet army, then over the past seven years a qualitatively different army has been created in Ukraine, on a completely different ideological basis and largely on NATO standards. And very modern weapons and equipment are being supplied and continue to be supplied to Ukraine from many countries of the North Atlantic Alliance.
      
      In general, there will be no Ukrainian blitzkrieg. The statements of some experts such as "The Russian army will defeat most of the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 30-40 minutes" are groundless. And finally, the most important thing. An armed conflict with Ukraine is currently fundamentally not in Russia's national interests. Therefore, it is best for some overexcited Russian experts to forget about their hatred fantasies.
      
      M. Khodorenok, colonel of the General Staff, head of the group in the 1st Main Directorate of the General Staff, graduated from the Academy of the General Staff.
      On my own behalf, I’ll add that the idea of reconciling and uniting the peoples, and at the same time the military-industrial complex of Russia and Ukraine, making these countries allied and thus solving the problem of Crimea and Donbass, the problem of Ukraine in NATO, is a great idea for the planned result. But completely unattainable in the existing reality.
      
      They announced the denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine, but what is the result? Getting rich by making a million is a good goal. But if you take the last money and go for a million in a casino, this is a way to lose the last one, and not a way to earn a million, this is a bad way to achieve the goal. And if you have no other way, you will have to live without a million. What exactly was Vladimir Putin's plan?
      
      Vladimir Vladimirovich was not going to fight, the plan was: to arrange a coup in Kyiv, bring Medvedchuk to power, arrest Zelensky, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the population are at a loss, and the Russian army is providing force support to the new regime. In short, repeat the Crimean scenario. But there was a surprise in the Crimea, and in 22, American newspapers wrote about Russia's plans. There was a sympathetic population in Crimea. The APU was in a disassembled state.
      
      There were no prerequisites for a repetition of the Crimean scenario in 22. The question is why V.V. Putin embarked on an obviously risky enterprise, does he not read newspapers (an article by Khramchikhin on the same topic in the same issue), or does his advisers fall below the plinth? No, he just needed a "Ukrainian consensus" like the Crimean consensus before the elections. After raising the retirement age, "zeroing" he had to prove to everyone, and maybe to himself, that he has the right to be president for the next term. And of course, the president of Russia, who united the Russian lands, would go down forever in the history books. Vladimir Vladimirovich will enter the history textbooks ...
guest

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21 August 2023 23: 34

I read only the title of the topic and immediately realized who the author was and was not mistaken. You can write entire dissertations on this topic, but until the Kremlin starts reading it and, most importantly, draws the right conclusions, there will be 0 sense.
prior

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22 August 2023 07: 16

In order to recognize Ukraine as a terrorist state, one must have the courage and good impudence to begin with recognizing the United States as the main sponsor of terrorism.
Officially, at the international and legislative level, with all the consequences .....
And it's scary....
The rest of the details do not even make sense to discuss.
The root of evil in the US and NATO.
kriten

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22 August 2023 13: 31

Everything that is written is correct, but ... such steps are needed in terms of preparing to start fighting for real, when they protect only their population and army, and not like now - they try to protect the population from the enemy. In addition, the Kremlin has not abandoned the idea of an agreement, which many people there are striving for. Dealing with terrorists looks bad.
Kuramori Reika

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22 August 2023 14: 06

It does not seem that the Russian government wants a quick completion of the NWO. The economy of Europe is collapsing, the status of the dollar is being lost at a triple speed, inflation is devouring the West, and BRICS is becoming the new master of the World, where Russia is in the forefront. If the war continues for another year, the EU will finally cross the line of no return, and the direct financial losses of the United States will exceed half a trillion.

How much money they spent on this rotten project, which, in the event of a collapse, will bury its owners under it. How many weapons have been lost, for the restoration of which there are simply no funds. How many investment projects were closed for the reason that they ceased to be profitable.

So it is unlikely that the Kremlin will decide to stop the NWO, rather it will multiply the financial losses of the West as much as it can. Of course, we also pay a lot of money from the money-box, but the lion's share of them remains within the borders of the state.
Platon Verdictov

+1

22 August 2023 14: 19

Everything is done as it should be for serious people with real estate in London and Miami. To bring capitulation closer and resolve all other issues, it is necessary that 99,9% of frivolous Pinocchio, without this real estate, turn on their brains and deal with this 0,1% in a barrel of honey.
Flight

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22 August 2023 15: 49

In this publication, I would like to continue and logically complete the topic of the possibility and even the need for Russia to switch its fight against the Kiev regime not as a sovereign state, but as an international neo-Nazi terrorist group, which it is in essence.

And how will dependent Russia explain this to sovereign states? Spain for example? Portugal. The international community put on the wanted list not Zelensk, but Putin. How will they turn Zelya into a terrorist in such a way, if with him by the hand
kings and princesses greet.

When the understanding finally comes that this is impossible, it will be necessary to delegalize the Kiev regime itself, revoking its recognition by Russia as legal.

Yes Yes. The man wanted - he gave his word, he wanted - he took it.
This is not why the West has entangled our country with "treaties" and "laws", promoted the Chubais and others like him, so that now, like this, they can take and recall ...
Only the insane can hope for Africa.
vlad127490

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22 August 2023 19: 04

Everything is the same, only different words: if, perhaps, it will be brought closer, change, capitulation, etc., thank God the Russian language is rich.
How to win the war with NATO in Ukraine.
First, NATO must be deprived of targets in Ukraine.
To declare to the whole world what the Russian Federation wants and what will happen in Ukraine after the war and with its citizens.
Change the format of the war.
The authorities of the Russian Federation should issue a Law, which will state that the entire territory of Ukraine, within the borders of 1975, is an integral part of Russia.
Such a Law will bring victory closer, without losses in the RF Armed Forces.
vlad127490

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22 August 2023 19: 34

What will the Law give, which will state that the entire territory of Ukraine, within the borders of 1975, is an integral part of Russia.
1. A political move that will lead to the stabilization of actions in Ukraine.
2. All actions of the leadership of the Russian Federation and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will comply with the Law of the Russian Federation.
3. Assigning the status of the territory of Ukraine, which is the territory of Russia, will allow the NVO to be transferred to the counter-terrorist operation (CTO), i.e. All military operations will be carried out in accordance with the law "On countering terrorism" dated 06.03.2006 N 35-FZ.
4. The law will make it impossible for Ukraine and NATO countries to call the Russian Federation an aggressor.
5. The law will deprive NATO of a goal in Ukraine and he will have to develop a new concept for the Russian Federation.
6. The law will not allow Ukraine to quickly join NATO. The law will not allow NATO to intervene, to introduce troops from Poland, Romania, Hungary into the territory of Ukraine, and the annexation of Ukraine by these countries will automatically disappear. The law will not allow to conclude a confederal treaty between Ukraine and Poland, which is part of NATO, and Ukraine will not be able to become a member of NATO. The law will not allow the United States to blackmail and use nuclear weapons in Ukraine.
7. The supply of weapons to separatist terrorists in Ukraine will be qualified as interference in the internal affairs of the Russian Federation.
8. In the presence of the Law, the military operation conducted by Russia in Ukraine is the liberation of the territory of Russia occupied by separatists, the restoration of the territorial integrity of Russia, the reunification of peoples, the inclusion of the economy, population, territory of Ukraine in the sphere of economic activity of Russia.
9. The law will give certainty about the future in Ukraine to citizens of the Russian Federation and Ukraine. Citizens living on the territory of Ukraine will not have to be afraid in the future for themselves, for persecution by the fascist regime.
10. The law will set the goal. A strategy will be formed. Tactics were developed, tasks and deadlines were set, and the enemy was named.
1. Pembo
  
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  22 August 2023 23: 22
  
  Not original. We have already declared at the legislative level the territories of the Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporozhye regions and Kherson regions as territories of the Russian Federation. Now to the question of a soldier on LBS: what am I doing here? The answer is ready: you are defending your native land, the territory of the Russian Federation. But we still held referendums there and gave the matter what no, but a legal move. And you propose to distribute this method throughout Ukraine, only without referendums.
  
  The law will make it impossible for Ukraine and the countries of the NATO bloc to call the Russian Federation an aggressor.
  
  Those. if China issues a law that the territory of Siberia to the Urals is the territory of the People's Republic of China and will develop this territory, neither we nor the world community will call it an aggressor? Of course he made the law.
  1. vlad127490
    
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    26 August 2023 13: 30
    
    But we still held referendums there and gave the matter what no, but a legal move.
    Because the Federal Constitutional Law of December 17, 2001 N 6-FKZ "On the procedure for admission to the Russian Federation and the formation of a new subject of the Russian Federation within it" does not allow to be adopted without a referendum.
    Combat operations of the RF Armed Forces are being carried out in accordance with Decree of the Federation Council of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation No. 22.02.2022-SF dated February 35, XNUMX "On the use of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation outside the territory of the Russian Federation."
    Fighting is going on throughout Ukraine, air and missile strikes are also fighting.
    Now to the question of a soldier on LBS: what am I doing here?
    For example, in the Kharkiv region?
    Don't worry about China. China has many laws:
    In 2005, China passed the Anti-Secession Law. According to the document, in the event of a threat to the peaceful reunification of the mainland and Taiwan, the PRC government is obliged to resort to force and other necessary methods to preserve its territorial integrity.
    On June 15, 2022, China adopted the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) legal framework for non-military military activities. That will allow the PRC army to participate in operations not related to the war.
    On October 22, 2022, the delegates of the XNUMXth Congress of the Communist Party of China approved the introduction of a provision on counteracting Taiwan independence to the Charter of the political force.
    Like it or not, you can't win without the law.
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