“Write to your father to the front”: a new scandal erupts in Russia

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In Russia - a new "school" scandal. Interestingly, this time at the center of this was not violence perpetrated by our beloved children and not any unseemly acts of teachers. The wild indignation of one of the mothers in St. Petersburg caused the homework received by her daughter, a fourth-grade student. What was that? An offer to write a letter to the father to his father ...





The infuriated mom immediately threw out with her own comments the corresponding photos from the creative notebook attached to the textbook Literary Reading on her Facebook page and her own LJ. Further - our liberals (and not only) picked up the topic, the media - and away we go!

Yes, yes - mother turned out to be not some kind of semi-literate marginal, but a special very advanced one. Moreover - belonging to the so-called "world of art." Many publications on this subject do not name her data, but in vain - the country absolutely certainly needs to know her “heroes” like that. Just a must! So, she comes out with black gall about the patriotic education of Russian children, calls the authors of the assignment and the drafters of the manual “sovereign idiots”, and assures that none other than a researcher at the Russian Institute of the History of Art, Olga’s “tearing profanity” Fedorchenko. And she’s with us - “ballet critic, columnist for the newspaper Kommersant. St. Petersburg ", Ph.D."

Someone else has questions - where do such “geniuses” as Pavlensky and various Serebrennikovs and Serebryakovs come from, with such “art historians” and “cultural figures” in our country? The anger of this lady, who is probably classifying herself as a “Russian intelligentsia,” simply has no limit: “My daughter was sobbing! Why even write a letter to the father to the front, even if imagined? Are we preparing for war? ”

Tell me, what do you feel when a well-groomed Madame from art calls the teachers’ attempt to reach out to the hearts of children and give them the opportunity to reflect on what a terrible thing this is - the war that came specifically to your house and your family, “is probably not the next day the last "? Horror? Disgust? Lack of understanding of how something like this can be said and written in a city that has survived the Blockade? Personally, I - and the first, and second, and third. Interestingly, a letter written to his father to the front in 1941 by a 14-year-old Leningrad citizen in which he says that he works at a military factory instead of school, complains that “she always wants to eat, and her mother also wants to eat all the time” and asks : "Dear Dad! Beat the Nazis! ”, Signing“ Your son, factory worker No. 5 Fedor Bykov ”, Fedorchenko also considers the“ bottom ”?! Or simply - an unnecessary thing that should be forgotten as soon as possible, and our children should not even know?

I'd like to ask a question: whose, in fact, is the “bottom” in this case ?! People who go to the "Immortal Regiment", honor the memory of the Great Patriotic War and are trying by all means to bring it to the descendants of the soldiers who died and defeated it? Or a “terrible” state that feeds itself and its child, by the way? The institute in which it strives is supported by state and budget money. Our art critic does not disdain salaries from “sovereign idiots”, just as he does not disdain ... However, in his LiveJournal it sprinkles poison in the address of the president, “United Russia” and everything that similar “intellectuals” -liberals are accustomed to call "Their power."

Most disgusting that the "emotional impulse" of Mrs. Fedorchenko found not just support, but the most ardent approval from the subscribers of her LiveJournal. I will not give a link - if you wish, everyone will find. However, I warn you - to read exclusively to people with strong nerves and stomach. The latter is a must. Sick can easily. One of the readers was especially noted, who suggested over the topic “father at the front” ... “fasting” from the heart! And he proposed the most successful, in his opinion, version of the letter: “Dad! .. we hope that you have already crossed the front line and are sitting well-fed and warm in the camp of the damned enemy! ..” And you know, many were delighted with this proposal - led by Mrs. Fedorchenko herself. Aren't you scared yet? But in vain ...

Here they are, in front of us, without masks and in all their "glory" - the current "sleeping", future policemen, punishers and new Vlasovites. However, among the ROA there were, albeit few, fighting for the “white idea”. These with a screech will sell their homeland for a jar of Coca-Cola and not very poyuzanny iPhone. Or just like that - out of love for “art”. Here it is - a wonderful “fifth column” for any enemy who wants to destroy Russia! But how many of them are there around us ?!

And it didn’t start today. And not even yesterday. Involuntarily, you recall the Russian general Yevgeny Martynov, who claimed a century ago that nine out of ten “representatives of the domestic intelligentsia” consider protecting the Fatherland a crime, patriotism is nothing more than a “relic of antiquity,” military service is a craft that dishonors a person, and military valor is identified exclusively with brutality and stupidity. It was precisely such "art critics" and the like in 1905 sent congratulatory telegrams to the Japanese emperor - on the victory over Russia!

Have you ever heard that with such fury our liberals and “intellectuals” pounced on attempts to drag propaganda of debauchery and perversion into Russian schools under the guise of “sex education”? So that they become frail breasts on the path of gay parades? Or thunders and thunderbolts threw about propaganda of violence and cruelty among children and adolescents spreading through the Internet, which already leads to tragedies, like Kerch? Outraged by the debilitation of the younger generation through pop culture, base TV shows and similar muck? Did not hear? I - too ...

But the attempt to instill in our children patriotism and humanity causes them just the same animal rage - at the level of some dark subconscious conditioned reflexes. By the way, about the same reaction this audience should have on any attempt by our education system to encroach on the “sacred” - fetishes and baits imposed by the West that mutilate our children from a very young age. If you want to - believe it or not - but now the Russian Internet is very vividly discussing (and condemning by many!) The decision of some preschool institutions about the undesirability of the presence of children dressed up in the costumes of monstrous "superheroes" born of a sickly fantasy of Hollywood filmmakers! The hardened retrograde cities from education prefer, you see, that Russian children are dressed as heroes of Russian fairy tales and literary works. Horrible!

Well, and finally ... "Are we getting ready for war?" This is who you need to be in order not to see and not to understand - today Russia is forced to confront almost the whole world, and this confrontation can spill over into anything. Maybe it’s worth preparing? And in the order of such preparation, finally, to call by their own names extremely important things for all of us. First of all, patriotism is patriotism, and the liberal “intelligentsia, who has gone too far to the limit, frolicking freely on people's money, while trying to cultivate hatred for their own country and contempt for its great history, are enemies and traitors ...
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  1. +10
    28 November 2018 12: 21
    ... Are we preparing for war?

    This liberal fool sometimes doesn’t stop watching news releases. What does it matter on what resource. Then she would not have asked such questions.

    Have you ever heard that with such fury our liberals and “intellectuals” pounced on attempts to drag propaganda of debauchery and perversion into Russian schools under the guise of “sex education”? So that they become frail breasts on the path of gay parades? Or thunders and thunderbolts threw about propaganda of violence and cruelty among children and adolescents spreading through the Internet, which already leads to tragedies, like Kerch? Outraged by the debilitation of the younger generation through pop culture, base TV shows and similar muck? Did not hear? I - too ...

    Current liberals are a cancerous tumor on the healthy body of Russian society. The faster we get rid of it, the better. am
    1. +3
      28 November 2018 15: 53
      As one of the CIA's directors, Hoover, said:

      Russia will NOT be defeated with weapons, we will destroy it with our mass "culture"!
      1. -2
        28 November 2018 17: 38
        Read in the original or heard on TV by Solovyov? Do not watch TV, this is also the brainchild of mass culture.
  2. -8
    28 November 2018 13: 10
    I am writing to my father to the front. Dad, protect us and fight well! Only here I found out that you are fighting for the personal interests of Mr. Putin, who actually owns Gazprom and Rosneft, because of the price increase we are no longer able to pay for the apartment. Some federal laws say that it is impossible to increase the rent by more than 15% per year, while other laws require immediate payment for fuel oil and gas supplied for heating, the price of which rises three times a year. But you do not grieve dad! We will somehow survive! Tomorrow, the brother and his comrades will take axes and pitchforks and go to the administration. And then they will phone with the boys from the regions and go to take the presidential administration. But do not be sad there! You will come, everything will be fine! The main thing is that we are not defeated!
    1. +6
      28 November 2018 14: 54
      Only here I found out that you are fighting for the personal interests of Mr. Putin .....

      Who is Putin? And why is your dad fighting for his personal interests? request

      ... I found out here ...

      Your nickname seems to be masculine. Can’t you decide on the floor, poor fellow? lol
      1. -4
        28 November 2018 16: 17
        You have four children, judging by the info from your comments from some branch. It would probably be nice to receive letters from them ... Offer them such a topic. You can develop, say that the father died heroically, defending their opportunity to retire at 60-65 and receive pension pennies. Unfortunately, the escalation of hysteria in society is an integral part of the domestic policy of our state. Like Orwell: war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is power. You understand everything perfectly, do not blabber the topic. Who pays you?
        1. +2
          28 November 2018 18: 34
          The escalation of hysteria in society is an integral part of the domestic policy of our state ...

          If you have a tantrum after each news release, then do not look.

          Offer them such a topic.

          If they are offered such a topic at school, then I, unlike you, will not hysterically and wring my hands theatrically.
          1. -3
            28 November 2018 19: 41
            But in vain. If you studied logic, it would be easier for you to form a causal relationship between actions, events, phenomena. War is bad, it is painful and even deadly! A small excursion into our modern cinema films is only about victories. Euphoria from victories leads to a lower threshold for critical attitude to realities. This is a rake. A letter to his father to the front from the same cohort: dad, hold on, hit the enemy, and then blab about victory. Why is this theatrical performance on the bones of 27 million people? And in order to maintain in society a feeling of pre-war, like Remarque in the Arc de Triomphe. And there won’t be a war (I still really believe in it), but someone needs society to make sausages. And for this, all means are good, even forcing children, contrary to common sense, to write these fantastic letters. Fantastic, because it is a substitution of concepts: at 41-45 they were real, and they were fantastic. And the main thing here is that through the letter the child visualizes that he is the enemy, that the state can pick up and send the father at any moment. He knows where to protect someone’s interests, that it always has been and cannot be avoided (Klaas’s ashes knocked on his heart). This is programming consciousness, well, as you do not see it. After all, even your aggression was not born from scratch. There is no child in two years who will urge to cut and hang. Return to the image of Stalin as a great manager of the era. Where does this theory come from? Yes, just the laundering of some dubious historical figures lies in the plane of the issue of the sacredness of power. We used to play war games, it has more to do with patriotism. Wait, and this was leveled, because hybrid wars became, and they participate in them on the Internet. And how to play this?
      2. +3
        29 November 2018 01: 34
        Quote: gorbunov.vladisl
        would be masculine

        Tse Sir Gay
        1. 0
          29 November 2018 07: 48
          17085 Cossack burned!
          1. +2
            29 November 2018 13: 53
            Quote: Oleg9999
            17085 Cossack burned!

            do not mark the blizzard, my friend, and explain in more detail what you mean ... nothing of your screeching is clear. well, absolutely. I read your comments and nothing but "shabby troll" comes to mind. To boast that he "studied" logic and at the same time in one sentence to make three logical or speech errors, well, very "highly educational".
            1. 0
              29 November 2018 14: 09
              Throw the ball and the topic of discussion leads away. This is me about the previous post. Trying to form a negative opinion about the counterparty by defining it in the community of social minorities. However, we do not know anything about your orientation. And we don’t want to know. Who screams the loudest about a thief?
              1. +2
                29 November 2018 19: 09
                Here I read your conclusions and am surprised! Where are you so smart from? Why are you not annoyed by the imposition on our country of all the dirty western? Are you not outraged that they require us to hold the same gay parades as they have? Need same-sex marriage? They tell us how to educate our children sexually? What about drugs? They deliberately strangle our country with all this !!!! This is WAR! How many teenagers and young people have died from drugs and harmful programs on the Internet ?! Isn't that a war ???
                1. +2
                  29 November 2018 22: 26
                  Dear Valentina, living in Greece, who is strangling Greece, who is imposing gameparades on her and so on? I personally like Greece. I don’t know what you don’t like. I have always said and will repeat: dear ethnic Russians, come back. Welcome.
      3. -1
        30 November 2018 19: 25
        Vlad, and the Ukrainians have already begun to forget the Russian language ... What do you want from them? And the reasoning of the Russian people do not look like that.
        1. 0
          30 November 2018 23: 08
          And what does the reasoning of the Russian person look like?
          1. 0
            2 December 2018 00: 27
            Like most of those present here ... Unlike you.
  3. +11
    28 November 2018 13: 57
    I read articles ... sometimes I watch political programs (I can't call them "TV shows") ... And I have the feeling that "1937" is about to come ... You ask why? Yes, everything is very simple - if the state does not calm down this presumptuous evil spirits, then the people themselves will begin to hang it on poles.
    Now let's "move" a little further in the historical sequence - the War, the Great Patriotic War. Let's imagine that it starts next year? (and the fact that this scenario is quite possible - there are fewer doubts, the loop is tightening) WHAT will these so-called "liberals, democrats" do? So:
    1. In the troops - they will surrender their positions, they will betray everyone and everything.
    2. Behind the rear is the conduct of provocations, the organization of people's discontent with the deprivations and difficulties of the war period (the fact that the difficulties will be — MORE !!!). The organization of sabotage in factories, the creation of interference (supposedly poor knowledge (or even not knowledge) of how to perform work) in production. Campaigning (hidden and explicit) of employees of enterprises, local residents, village citizens, children and adolescents (what is happening ALREADY NOW !!!!!!!!)
    3. I want to point out a separate paragraph on the conduct of military sabotage - THIS WILL! Since THIS is not where to go - they are sitting on such a hook in the west that they fear them STRONGER than domestic authorities, and HATE for their own Motherland is not comic in them!
    1. +5
      28 November 2018 15: 00
      that "1937" is about to come ... You ask why? Yes, everything is very simple - if the state does not calm down this presumptuous evil spirits, then the people themselves will begin to hang it on poles.

      In general, I agree with you. That's only in 1937, the people did not hang anyone on the pillars. And indeed no one hung anyone. Just put things in order in the country.
      If parallels are drawn, then 1917 is closer to this topic. hi
      1. 0
        30 November 2018 19: 35
        Vlad, you have NOT correctly interpreted my text. I'm talking about 37th - for the state. But IF the state does not take action (the so-called - the measures of 1937), then the people may already rebel - and the "hanging" will begin! (Shl ... I do not suggest to shoot IMMEDIATELY ... it is enough (for a start) to issue warnings with HUGE fines and landings ... and only then ... who did not heed ... we warned!)
        If the state STILL has a sense of self-preservation, then measures towards "common people", amateurs of the "world community" should be taken ALREADY TODAY. And to stop this bacchanalia of permissiveness and direct sabotage of Russia. Because scolding and promoting the destruction of power, as always, they end up in Russia. If you are NOT satisfied with the power, then scolding - OFFER what would be an improvement for Russia, and not for its destruction. And the surrender of everything and everything that the liberda stands for is surrender to the West and the destruction of the country.
        1. 0
          30 November 2018 23: 20
          I will pose the question this way: why is there so much hatred and anger in you, and to people who absolutely do not touch you? Okay, I'm joking, and millions of people around me? They are to blame for the fact that you are ready on their neck stone and water, but first fine. After all, it is precisely such people who are probably in power, just as they think and act towards you. But there are common ground, for example, a dislike for Ukraine, and you already do not like pacifists much more, although they did nothing wrong with you. That's why I don’t know how to oppose you. Let's look for common ground. Do you like sports? For example, I love and play curling and hockey, practice Thai boxing, and run in the mornings. What do you like?
    2. +2
      28 November 2018 17: 04
      I will add: 4 in the Russia they surrendered and occupied by the "collective West", they will be policemen and mayors.
      1. -6
        28 November 2018 17: 21
        You to Alekh: the symptoms are the same. The ward will not be bored. Letters to the front will be written, through orderlies will be sent to the post office.
        1. +3
          28 November 2018 18: 46
          ... through orderlies to send to the post office.

          Judging by your comments below, you have the richest experience in communication with orderlies. lol
          In vain all the same you were released. crying
          1. -5
            28 November 2018 18: 55
            Vladislav, imagine for a moment that there is no America. Presented. Horror. All of your 220 comments immediately lost their meaning, because they are only about this - America is to blame for everything.
            1. +4
              29 November 2018 04: 05
              No!!! Only Putin is to blame for everything (well, the FSB) !!! And America, this shining city on the hill, in all rights and all of us will save. Oleg 9999, imagine for a moment that there is no Russia. Presented. What a blessing! No comments are needed here at all. And there is no Putin and Khodorkovsky and Navalny govern us. Divine !!!
              1. 0
                29 November 2018 07: 46
                Who is being managed if no one is there? A joke of humor?
        2. 0
          30 November 2018 19: 36
          9999, interesting ... But people are not judged by themselves ... Look at the reaction to your comments. "Why blame the mirror if the face is crooked?"
          1. +1
            1 December 2018 13: 01
            The response to the comments is wonderful. I think some people even think about what is called life. The main thing is dialogue, and not splashing water (it can be worse))) from a glass, into a person with whom views differ. I am for peace and against war, although my first higher education is military and I gave my homeland duty in full, although my homeland as a mother, how can a mother be able to fully repay a debt? Let's be friends and discuss.
    3. +1
      9 January 2019 12: 28
      A.Lex seems to write everything correctly, they just forgot to add: 1. many will go over the hill to their real estate and bank deposits and from there they will also finance the aggressor.
      2. In 1937, people didn’t seem to hang them on poles, but denunciations were scribbled by many, especially in Moscow, I write this from the experience of my own family. In 1936, my grandfather's family (grandfather, grandmother, aunt and my father, born in 1933) were arrested and sent into exile following a denunciation by the "friends" of my grandfather and family. I don't know what would have happened to them in 1937, it is possible that they would have been shot. but the most interesting thing is that the grandfather said about that time "you did not live then and it is not for you to judge that time, the USSR had many enemies."
  4. +7
    28 November 2018 14: 00
    My daughter was crying! Why even write a letter to the father to the front, even if imagined?

    Or maybe my daughter was crying for a different reason? What did papa, the head of the family, say if he was present there? Maybe my daughter was upset about the lack of a dad in the house, and Madame just turned the arrows, splashing out her helplessness on the network? It is somehow sad to look like a fool in the eyes of your own daughter.
    1. -2
      29 November 2018 11: 20
      No need to be lazy, mother laid out the daughter’s essay. And dad and mom and brother are. A child simply, unlike you, cannot understand why you need to go to fight for the promised garden near Poltava.
  5. -8
    28 November 2018 14: 37
    The author of the article rapturously and with enviable frequency pushes the topic of the inevitability of war. Of course, I understand that the author is dancing and he does not have to choose music. But there is always the opportunity to refuse. The idea is shaken into fragile minds every day with the whole colossal propaganda machine, into the fragile minds of readers: war is inevitable, plug personal needs away, even feel ashamed (not without reason they cited the example of a letter from a blockaded son to his father to the front), the intelligentsia of a fool because they do not believe, liberals and gays in general for peace and friendship, that will that is not will anyway. I am also against planting patriotism in children in such a strange way. That's all. The topics fried in this way are thrown in by such inappropriately so as to arouse hatred towards the reader in the reader because of adherence to one or another point of view, Solovyov’s laurels do not give rest. A letter to the father at the front is a trauma for the child's psyche, unless he is educated with a bang about war pictures and can realize that there are a lot of casualties in the war and the father can die. Who needs such turbulence in society, everyone will decide for himself. Seek the beneficiary, as they say. Non-agonized only a tool in their hands, but probably rely on preferences.
    1. +4
      28 November 2018 18: 40
      The author of the article rapturously and with enviable frequency pushes the topic of the inevitability of war.

      The author here is what side? Have you tried to take off your pink glasses?
      It is the Anglo-Saxons who itch. "For a long time" apparently there were no world wars.
      1. -2
        28 November 2018 18: 47
        Show me in your village the Anglo-Saxons and how they influenced the adoption of the law on pensions.
        1. 0
          29 November 2018 15: 51
          Either you don’t know anything about kudrins in the government, or it’s your pathology ... I'm talking about the law on pensions.
          1. +1
            29 November 2018 22: 36
            Answer a simple question: is the executioner solely responsible for the execution, or is it primary responsibility / guilt at the court / sovereign? We have a presidential republic in the form of government. Who is Kudrin in the hierarchy of power?
      2. 0
        28 November 2018 19: 41
        Break away from the zombie.
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  7. -9
    28 November 2018 15: 13
    Dear urapatriots, here zealously complementing each other and urging the liberals to tear to the last cross, attributing to them at least the crucifixion of infants. So, why are you throwing out such topics, so to speak, on the Internet, sublimating your sadistic inclinations into a many-voiced choir like the 37th year - the death of mad dogs ... If this is not for money, this is a pathology. Alex, have you been to a doctor for a long time? In your comments in different branches you can trace the tendency to unmotivated aggression, suspicion, obsessive thoughts divorced from reality, the desire to pass off wishful thinking. I can’t understand you, ”judging by the comment,“ urge you to slaughter the intelligentsia because it prevents them from starting a war? ” As practice shows, people like you are quickly blown away in harsh conditions and they are ready to sell their mother, but to talk to you about telling about God's dew to whom she is in the eye.
    1. +4
      28 November 2018 17: 53
      But what about you, 9999, look like such a heroic liberal, only you will be the first to be blown away, and you will be a punisher and a hangman of the same people hated by you. You are only 7% of them, throughout Russia, and you know very well that the people of all He hates you fiercely since the days of the great "foreman of perestroika", since you ruined first the USSR, and then Russia, and now you are trying to finish it off completely, for the good of your foreign owners and your pocket. Your "intelligentsia" has come to power again "headed by Kudrin, who again, as in the" dashing nineties "" benefited the people with a sharp increase in prices for fuel, housing and communal services, VAT and another "pension reform", and the people are not iron, and will not tolerate for a long time, there will be their own and Pugachev and the Bolotnikovs ..... You advised me to consult a doctor, now I advise Alex the same, so pay your attention to your minuses and its pluses, but you, as always, in Poroshenko's way, get out of it. Why am I clear and clearly understand what he is writing, and support him in this, but I do not understand you, mythe brain does not perceive what you have written, and maybe you need a consultation with a certain medical specialist?
      1. -2
        28 November 2018 18: 44
        And where does Kudrin? Did the president listen to your appeals, reduce the tax and other burden, redistribute the country's benefits in favor of the wider population? Well, you yourself said now that no, he does not hear you, and Kudrin and the liberals are to blame. Maybe petitions do not pass beyond the threshold of the noble house? I've already been recorded as spies and even worse. Statistics again came up with this theory. So I’m thinking, say, if a person stepped on a rake and got a forehead, then is the rake to blame? In your opinion - a rake, but I will not put any advantages for such a conclusion, of course, unless you try to kill me with electric shockers, which is why you are calling for it. Well, I can’t agree that with the capture of Ukraine all our problems will be solved, or with a hundred new missiles we will become closer to the world on earth, or that patriotism is fostered by writing a pseudo-signature to my father to the front. Cord has a song about boobs, and it’s about when the general good comes, listen, this is better than driving the children into their heads the idea that they, their relatives and friends should die. These school initiatives are not growing from scratch, the president recently called everyone to paradise, because it’s easier, you don’t have to solve pressing problems, provide this unfortunate girl with a decent education (not in a school with classes of 40 people, or with a leaking roof, or with a toilet on the street), you don’t have to think how to adequately help her mother if she is a single mother (there are jokers on the branch, and such mothers need to put monuments), you don’t have to think about how to find a job later (I remember about 25 million highly skilled workers places). Go to heaven! Here they love Lenin, and so Lenin called religion opium for the people. You can argue - a dope or anesthetic, but in my opinion its comparison is still relevant. There is no money, but you will go to heaven, endure and go to heaven, fight for the interests of the state (not to confuse people, citizens) and go to heaven ... I am sharp and sarcastic. But I'm not evil. No need to cut us. You and I have a lot in common, as someone recently told me - which hand doesn’t hurt, left or right. I just want a bright future, prosperity for the country, but not at the expense of citizens of wide layers, I want Alekh not to sausage at the sight of the rainbow as well, because this is God's creation, as the Bible says. I want life not to be simplified and not rubbish ... if people have brains, and if a person’s opinion differs from yours, this does not mean that he needs to be shot. Something like this. And I'm used to the minuses :)
        1. +2
          29 November 2018 08: 58
          And you know, 9999, I don’t understand you because all of your pearls are drawn up according to the guidelines of Washington, and Russians don’t perceive them normally because of our so-called "soviet" mentality, which you liberals hate fiercely. You sprinkle this heresy like Nikita Isaev, like Alexey Kudrin, like Anatoly Chubais. You are like one and the same worn-out record, played in all the liberal media, and has already set our teeth on edge to nausea, and you are working out and working out your 30 pieces of silver with your "SPS" and "Yablokoy".
          1. -1
            29 November 2018 11: 05
            Liberalism proclaims the rights and freedoms of every person as the highest value and establishes them as the legal basis for social and economic order. Liberalism in general is the desire for freedom of the human spirit from the constraints imposed by religion, tradition, the state, etc., and for social reforms aimed at the freedom of the individual and society. Moreover, the ability of the state and the church to influence the life of society is limited by the constitution.

            This is the definition of liberalism from Wikipedia. Let’s deal with you, otherwise you’ll stay in the second year. Well, a training manual for me is life, present and future. For you the past, hence the soviet mentality. She can’t be hated, it’s a given, but don’t ascribe it to the whole people, 90% of the followers gathered here, and this is not the people, alas. What kind of heresy are liberals pouring in? That war is not peace? Which liberal media annoy you, which state ones warm your soul? Well, about 30 pieces of silver, - they usually pay for immoral beliefs, calls for war, violence, destabilization - just what you advocate. So which of us gets paid? Right, nobody. It’s just hard for us to communicate without recriminations. Well, actually, all the sites are designed to shock the public. Now it’s not so difficult to understand me?
            1. 0
              29 November 2018 13: 56
              It's nice Oleg to see here and in our time an adequate person. You are so far and far from alone, and therefore I think not everything is lost. Do not give up on your beliefs !!
              1. 0
                29 November 2018 22: 43
                Arkharov, the same! I think the majority are adequate, simply modest. But there are also a lot of those who are stubborn in their delusions and deceived by propaganda. And nostalgic, and lost interest in life, and militant, and desperate. I didn’t imagine such Russia 25 years ago. Old man Schwartz was right. But he also has hope: "Killing the Dragon" is not a tragedy after all :)
            2. +3
              29 November 2018 16: 17
              Your liberal "The rights and freedoms of every person ... of an economic order .." I, with my family, have fully drank, like the whole USSR and all of Russia, these your "values", especially "economic order", into "glorious "Gorbachev-Yeltsin times since 1985, that's just why they hate you liberals in Russia, with which you agreed, but I don't want a repetition of that mess and gangster lawlessness anymore.
              1. -1
                29 November 2018 22: 53
                Missed "proclaims the highest value and establishes them as the legal basis of public" and further already in the text. Therefore, you don’t understand the definition of liberalism because you threw away a substantial part of the text. Reread, pzhl, thoughtfully.
            3. 0
              30 November 2018 20: 17
              9999 ... Haha! Let's sort your lines about lib in order and by contradiction. So:
              1. "Liberalism proclaims ... the freedom of every person ..." - it turns out they took a specific person and GIVED him FREEDOM ... And what for others? How about freedom for others7 If one wants to spit in the face of another, can he? (but of course - this is freedom!) And he doesn't want to receive an answer? In general - "" Your freedom to wave your arms ends where the tip of the nose of the person standing next to you begins "- if it's rude.
              2. Now about the rights ... So he has ALL rights? And where are the responsibilities? Or do you live in a state that you owe NOTHING to? Well then, you have to go!
              3. "... the freedom of the human spirit from the constraints imposed by religion, tradition, the state ..." - REMEMBER (!) - A PERSON, living in a SOCIETY, initially has limitations! A person is not limited by ANYTHING only in splendid isolation - outside the family, outside society, outside the state, outside the population "reasonable man". And this is not possible by definition. Man initially voluntarily assumes "not freedom". Living in this or that state, working in this or that team, creating a TRADITIONAL family.
              4. "At the same time, the possibilities of the state and the church to influence the life of society are limited by the constitution.", As well as the ability of an individual to influence the state and religion is limited by the SAME constitution.
              So we have returned to the initial state - a priori, a person is NOT FREE AND WILL NOT BE FREE! ................................
              By the way! At the expense of freedom ... In the USSR, I felt MUCH freer. For example: starting to work in the USSR, I could afford (I worked as a teacher at school) to go from Orenburg to Frunze (and, in principle, any other city of the Union) to my uncle ... just to visit. And now? Well, well ... Where is that freedom?
              1. 0
                30 November 2018 22: 33
                Dear A.Lekh, I don’t even know how to oppose you, such a mess in your head. In short, Oruel- freedom is slavery, you have slavery is freedom. And a lot of nostalgia for the past. Living in the past is impossible to build the future. I think, as a man of conscience, you will not accept the negative into which society has rolled and is rolling. You see the only way out in the return of that old order in which you think you were happy. The peculiarity of the human psyche is such that it pushes the unpleasant into the bins of consciousness and into the subconscious, I remember only the good. This is self-deception. Try to change the principles of your thinking, and only unhealthy people can spit on purpose on another person. We are not like that.
        2. +1
          30 November 2018 19: 59
          9999, and who said that I am for GDP ??? Where have you read this from me? I have been saying and writing for a long time that Putin is LIBERAL. And I even refer to HIS words about it. that his TEACHER (mentor) was the DOG. So do not ascribe to me what I did not write. It’s not good to deceive people (what you constantly do)
          I'm not talking specifically about the current president, but about the government IN GENERAL ... Because. GDP is not a "last resort" power and it is NOT a king. In the end, he is dependent not only on his closest associates, but also on those who got him from the wrestling drunk (and there are no more of them) ...
          ........................ hmm ... but about the cut ... at you yourself ... about yourself ...
          1. +2
            30 November 2018 23: 30
            No offense, but it was the conclusion that the cereal in my head I made after your conclusion, Putin is a liberal. Remember the mouse cat nanny invited. Of course there are still owls, hedgehogs, snakes, people with their mousetraps. Liberal compared to whom? You know, you can’t be a little pregnant. If we begin to evaluate the moral and ethical side of one person relative to another, then the killer of three people definitely deserves paradise compared to the one who killed fifteen. Therefore, I really do not like this: we have it, but they have Wow.
      2. -1
        30 November 2018 19: 48
        Valentine ... They first killed the Russian Empire, and then the USSR ...
        1. 0
          30 November 2018 23: 32
          Who are they? Explain the idea, pzhl.
  8. -1
    28 November 2018 15: 53
    Yes, indeed, at least a strange sentence ...
  9. +5
    28 November 2018 17: 13
    you begin to understand how much Stalin was right when, in the mid-30s, this kind of liberalism was one half to the wall, and the other to the "dungeons". It is not known how the course of the Second World War would turn and how many more millions of Soviet people died.
    1. -6
      28 November 2018 17: 30
      Here in the thirties smart people were tormented, the picture of the world was obvious: there were a lot of stupid people with organs instead of the brain, with three phrases in their tongues - do not let go, fight, shoot them. Zealots of violence, damn it. Eat yourself with it. Now I understand why white people cut red, red white, and green and those and others. And in your mind the main word is Cut, and whom is already secondary. Your children feel sorry for what you doom them to. Very stink.
    2. -6
      28 November 2018 17: 44
      I’ll tell you a clever word, just delve into the thought: if he had shot everyone and then shot himself, then there would have been no war due to the absence of a side against the nickname.
  10. -3
    28 November 2018 18: 58
    It's fun with you guys. But I feel that mishandled Cossacks are rubbing here (emphasis on and).
    1. -1
      28 November 2018 19: 35
      They are jacking everywhere now.
  11. 0
    28 November 2018 23: 11
    Interesting discussion. But ineffectual, since everyone has his own and, I would say pointless, in fact. To be honest, I read the article, although it seems to me too long on this topic. I will not even read the fabrications of this lady. What she wrote there, and that it will definitely cause gag reflexes, and so I can imagine. With the St. Petersburg mom from art, her Facebook and LJ, as well as subscribers, everything is clear. But this is nonsense from both sides. As you haunt the forest, it will respond ... And is it nonsense to let modern fourth-graders in St. Petersburg write a letter to their father at the front? How do these children know what a front is? In the big city party and in the 4th grade! From a computer game? This girl, especially in such a family, hardly reads books about the war of the Soviet era ... how would she know? For her, FRONT is an inscription on the box from something that means the front side, nothing more. What will she write there? Well, maybe Che and blinks to unsubscribe, so that the teacher likes it, this is even at best. First, these children need a long and lucid explanation of what it is all about, why and because of what their fathers can get to a certain front, what and from whom they will be protected, and so on. And this is formed by generations, not even years. They broke it all easily, but now they want to build a dude? If patriotism is instilled in such a way, then it will be so - lazy and phony! As well as the belief of the population of the USSR in communist ideals in the 80s. Just as quickly and will crumble to dust if you kick it lightly ... Do you need such patriotism? Then the flag in hand! Forward! Recently, such patriots are also like flies on a dung heap. And there's just as much sense from them. As a result, it is not known what is even worse, here are such St. Petersburg mothers or or pseudo-patriots, who are full of saliva and slogans, but there is really zero knowledge and beliefs. Like our Komsomol and communist elite, from the last wave, who also shouted at meetings and almost fought for an idea in convulsions, and then at once almost all of them suddenly immediately became successful capitalists ... And how is that? And so, that their "convictions" to them (and they to all of us) were also instilled in them. So at the moment the most powerful and huge country in the world collapsed - no war, no hunger, no gigantic catastrophe, just a kick ... They say the USSR was a "colossus with feet of clay." Was. And these feet of clay were our phony beliefs in which no one believed for a long time. And now we are trying to mold the same patriots. It doesn't matter that it is made of clay, but there are a lot of them, you can see it well, they shout loudly, they walk with ribbons ... Do you like it? Just how would something happen, if suddenly someone offers them something sweeter and more interesting than fake letters to dad on an incomprehensible front ...
    1. -4
      28 November 2018 23: 40
      Here it seems to be beautifully written, it seems not yours and ours, or vice versa - both yours and ours ... But what smells so bad? Ahhhhh, there it is, somewhere quietly soldered, it means the messages: mother is a fool, her daughter isn’t at all ... and wrote: dear dad, and further in meaning - this is about those collaborators whom you mentioned below). And then the most interesting: not so, from your words, it is necessary to propagandize the war, that is, by no means a one-time action, for a long time and intelligibly it is necessary to do this, from your words, and not one generation. And then we will grow an army capable of putting everything at its feet at whatever he shows to the sovereign. Who do you work for, Pishenkov? Well, you are revealed as a bad boxer under uppercut. At least two or three comments wouldn’t make the eyes of the viewer blur, and then the broads their idea of ​​the permanent education of children in the spirit of militarism! A good fellow! And thank God that there are such. Such you will not give their children. And so there are more cadet schools throughout the country than general education, and even with a lot of funding. But ordinary children cannot have such conditions, those who sing songs can: for the last battle, Uncle Vova and I are with you. In the eversion of the brain, they had already been so taken out that they sing and do not understand that the latter is the latter. I’ll preempt opponents - they say America is sleeping and sees us in a coffin. We are seen in a coffin by completely different people.
      1. +1
        29 November 2018 11: 04
        In one Soviet film, I don't remember which one, there was a phrase like this: "... Lord, did you understand what said that? ..." I hope that I understood myself, because I, with my average brain, definitely not. Firstly, I do not work for anyone at all, exclusively for myself and not even here, that is, not writing on this site. This is not my WORK, and all that you see written from me here on the site is exclusively my own thoughts on a particular topic and nothing more. Believe it or not, it doesn't make me feel warm. Secondly, I don't know if you have children. I have 4. The eldest son will be 20, the second, daughter 11, the rest will be less. But the older two and all their peers, I did not observe any interests in politics, etc., etc. What do you think, in the 4th grade, someone is aware of the concept of SEPARATIST? Or the front? I’m trying to tell and inform my own people on this topic. And the overwhelming majority do not have this either, and they only take their social networks gadgets as sources of relevant information, and you can imagine what there is. If you think that they are looking for these topics there, then no matter how ...
        I never thought about raising children precisely in the spirit of militarism, although, if you recall, in the union we were brought up on it. Starting with books, films, etc., ending with the lessons of non-formal education in schools and Zarnitsy. But as soon as all this ended, take a look where the country turned out to be ... This is me again in general. You’ll blame me now for working for the Communists winked
        Although, on the other hand, if the country does not have an army, which, as you put it, will be ready "by one wave of the sovereign to put everything that he will show at his feet", then we will not win wars and our army will consist of of potential traitors. And since, according to the well-known formulation, we have only our army and navy as allies, where will we end up without all this strong? Well, look the truth in the face, you can croak whatever you like about the developing economy, potential, etc., but why hasn't the same West or the same China trampled and seized us in parts? Yes, only because of our army, which is still feared! The economy and the rest can then catch up, so in years ... ... ... ... many. In the meantime, apart from the Armed Forces, the Aerospace Forces and the Navy, we have nothing to count on, whether you like it or not.
        1. +1
          29 November 2018 23: 02
          That seems to be all right, and the fact that the children are apolitical, and the fact that they still allow Batman to change clothes on matinees. Only somehow not sincerely. Well, I don’t know, I always thought that the army and navy are friends of the sovereign / state. In North Korea, too, there is an army, but in China they freed up to 45 t / month from paying personal income tax. (translated into rubles). It seems a trifle, but it's nice for the neighbors. And the army seems to be there too.
        2. +2
          30 November 2018 20: 34
          Alexey ... Your efforts are in vain ... He will not understand ... A person for whom the concept of "Defense of the Motherland" NOTHING is initially incompatible ...
          PS ... I sometimes do not always agree with you ... The main thing is the betrayal of the elite for Russia (whatever the system) ALWAYS ended in yet another collapse. Take at least tsarist Russia (more than once), at least Soviet, at least modern. And until there is continuity in power, the education of the elites - and so we will go in a vicious circle ...
          1. 0
            3 December 2018 11: 04
            Oops, I’ve been hooked: for almost 30 years now, we have been the succession of power, and we will be equal to the USSR in terms of continuity. So what doesn’t suit you? It seems that your deepest desire is fulfilled no matter how it is better?
          2. 0
            3 December 2018 11: 13
            Dear Alex, I think you are reading me, judging by my lexical expressions, which you now also use in the comments. And this means there is a hope that my beliefs or views, so to speak, will also become close to you. I think you are not the kind of evil person you want to look like.
  12. +3
    29 November 2018 08: 07
    ********
    Maybe it is better to think about why there are suddenly so many people around who hate and despise your "homeland"? However, among the ROA were, albeit a few, who fought for the "white idea." These, with a squeal, will sell the Motherland for a can of Coca-Cola and an iPhone that is not too much used.
    ********
    Or maybe, frankly speaking, the price of your so-called. "Motherland" - not much more than a used iPhone? Maybe the quintessence of your homeland is Abramovich's underpants, sealed with bruliks, Sechin's yacht and a petty criminal put on a bottle in the police precinct, their palaces, yachts, airplanes, kushchevka, psebay, etc., etc. Do you seriously think for even a minute, even for a second that someone will go to die FOR THIS, for their fur stores and palaces while, for example, old veterans beg and die of hunger in your spiritually strong country? For the complete absence of a future and any prospects for the overwhelming majority of the population, when everything is stolen from future generations and taken away
    clean, under the root?

    ********
    Here it is - a wonderful “fifth column” for any enemy who wants to destroy Russia! But how many of them are there around us ?!
    ********
    Well, that’s right!
    Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck means a duck. Looks like an abomination, "quacks" like an abomination, acts like an abomination, which means ABOMINATION. Thinking people look at the mug of your "homeland" and quietly begin to hate it. And over time, there will be more of such people. You cannot build a human community solely on meanness and theft. Don't you get it? Such a society is unsustainable and will destroy itself
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  14. +1
    29 November 2018 09: 30
    What the child eventually wrote. Children are often wiser than old people:

    Hello dear dad! Your daughter Sasha writes to you. More recently, you were at home. I remember how you and I played, walked. And now you are at the front. We are very worried and worried about you. Most of all, I want you to return safe and sound. Mom and I pray that God will return.

    Dad, why do you need this war ?!

    Come back better to us! Everything is fine at home! Why do you need this?!

    We have food, everything is fine with us. Nikita and I go to school, mom goes to work and educates us. I hate the people who started the war!

    I want everyone to always live in peace and be near, and there is no war ...

    With love, your daughter Sasha, mom and my older brother Nikita!
  15. 0
    29 November 2018 10: 10
    Quote: A.Lex
    I watch political programs (I can't call them "TV shows") ..!

    This is how the worldview is formed for most of our audience.
    1. +1
      29 November 2018 10: 34
      No, I’d just say TELESHOW, the political transmission of all these shows does not dare to name the language.
  16. +2
    29 November 2018 19: 56
    My grandfather came to Berlin and signed on the Reichstag, my father-in-law started in Moscow at the Battle of Kursk, burned three times in the tank, my father partisaned at 13, I also managed to be present in hot spots and I will say for sure. To dismiss this fifu from a state institution for immoral behavior! To live in Russia and to spoil the graves of people who defended the country with their meat and blood ... Yes, send it. Let the crap over the hill.
    1. 0
      29 November 2018 22: 02
      Do not take it to heart, they live with it for a long time, but by signs it draws to senile dementia with clearly expressed paranoid signs. Where did she award? Why punish her? What is immoral behavior in this case? Where to send?
  17. +2
    29 November 2018 20: 12
    I do not comment. Because I agree with the author. In almost everything. More precisely - did not want to comment. Unless one moment was a little embarrassing - you should not forbid a child to dress up as a Disney character or comic book hero for the New Year. We are not in the barracks. Otherwise, everything is correct. And the teacher’s message is to put the child in the place of his peer, who writes to his father at the front (that child, from that war, or this one, from the same Donbass) - oh, how well it puts the brains of the pacifists in place. A child SHOULD be an adversary of the war, but he should not be an adversary of his Army and the idea of ​​protecting his Fatherland. One does not contradict the other.
    As for the moment that embarrassed me, it would be nice to make the child dressed as a Soviet soldier on Victory Day no less than Batman for the New Year.
    Well, as for the mother described in the article, I would put a mark in the passport on the propaganda of the anti-state way of thinking. Which would automatically prohibit her from working in state structures at the expense of the state she hates. That would be logical.
    And the rest - she has the right to such a way of thinking.
    But we too must have the right to defend ourselves when she begins to ACT in accordance with this way of thinking. When she begins to destroy MY COUNTRY!
    1. -1
      29 November 2018 22: 05
      You cannot protect your poor pension. And nothing more to say. He walked around the jackal at the sherkhan, very much swaggered. But not a tiger.
    2. -1
      29 November 2018 22: 06
      I almost forgot, thanks for allowing me to dress up as a batman. And they didn’t ask you :)
  18. 0
    30 November 2018 11: 28
    According to the summary of comments: 1.mother crucify (or six) and send, or send and crucify. 2. All issue caps and learn how to write the correct letters. 3. You can dress up in Batman, but not in a rainbow. 4. weekly take the children on an excursion to the Soviet army, where they should first call their fathers in order to prepare for sending them to the front. 5. On an excursion, it is imperative to feed the children with soldier's porridge so that they absorb the love of the army with porridge like with mother’s milk. 6. Prohibit the sale of diapers Libero, because then liberals grow out of such children. 7.Before sending to the front, check all on a polygraph in order to identify potential traitors. 8. by item 7. to carry out the same actions in the rear to identify saboteurs. 8. to remove Ukraine and the USA from globes and maps, so as not to annoy, then everyone else will immediately make friends with us, and we will show them nevermind. 9. Colleagues, help me bring the list to the end, just don’t minus, because these are your Wishlist, I just gathered them together. 10. If you zamenusuyut, again my exacerbation of the state of cognitive dissonance will begin, for the reason see p. 9.
    1. +1
      30 November 2018 19: 45
      Oleg, judging by the abundance and volume of your comments, you have a) a lot of free time and b) a strong belief that you are smart. And you yourself try to write something and give your thoughts to the public ... see what it all costs and who agrees with you and who doesn't ... Unless, of course, someone publishes it.
      1. 0
        30 November 2018 20: 43
        But this is true!
        1. 0
          30 November 2018 23: 45
          No offense, I already wrote about Sherkhan. A. Lex, do you have to have your own opinion, or here, as you said above yourself, completely and completely shares the opinion of the group?
          1. 0
            2 December 2018 00: 40
            It is difficult to find like-minded people ... Here - yes, I found it. Many of us write the same thing in different words.
            What is most interesting - everything that I wrote about your liberalism - there is nothing to answer you, they turned to individuals. Because everything that I described is close to the truth. And therefore - to argue with you I do not see the point ...
            Look more attentively - except for one thing, EVERYONE puts "-" here ... Nothing bothers you?
            Almost everyone who opposes you here-ate your liberalism to the very top. And we all want to get rid of it as quickly as possible, because liberalism is "combed" fascism. It was under the liberals that our country lost so much that these losses can be compared with military losses.
            Yes, yet - do not forget about the mirror ... And stop being rude.
            1. -1
              3 December 2018 01: 07
              Dear Alex, I answer :)
              About the "mess" in your head, I said in all seriousness, and after the statement "Putin is a liberal" I honestly a) convinced that it really is porridge, b) fell into a kind of stupor, because this is not even an oxymoron, it is an inversion of the brain. And how to answer that, I don't know.
              Since we are hooked on liberalism. So, many readers here really, probably like you, confuse the concepts of liberalism and totalitarianism. and when something unpleasantly incomprehensible happens in life, everything is attributed to liberals. I remember my grandfather Shchukar, who, being blind, read only what was written in large print in an explanatory dictionary, thought up the rest. That is why the "watercolor" in his understanding was a beautiful girl, and the "border" was a walking woman.
              The current system of power meets all the signs of kleptocracy, but this is one of the varieties of the totalitarian system. Unfortunately, in the 90s, in my opinion, we too trustingly, again, delegated responsibility for the country to a narrow stratum of society, for which we paid. Only I and others like us want to develop and move forward, and you and others like you want to replace one type of totalitarianism with another, nostalgic for some of the benefits of society and absolutely forget or even persist in your delusions that coal for a totalitarianism engine in any of its manifestation is human material. And, it’s hard for me to understand that even the GDP has recently been stressed, people say they are ready to die for me.
              Here, I won’t comment about spitting into each other, it’s babble at all, but for a start I ask you and your like-minded people to at least read a short article with which we will begin the path of correcting distortions in understanding important concepts, without which it’s difficult even debate. Let's start with Azov, are you a teacher in the past? So https://rosticus.livejournal.com/3215.html
              1. -1
                3 December 2018 01: 18
                In pursuit, I almost forgot. I am okay with minus, I’m not “watercolors” (see above), so that everyone would love me, it doesn’t affect my self-esteem, and then, I rarely like / dislike myself, sorry, I will be more active :).
      2. 0
        30 November 2018 23: 42
        Usually, when the opponent has nothing to say on the merits, it is customary in Russia to say: “What are you, the smartest?” Zadornov also spoke about this - everywhere it sounds approving, but in Russia you should immediately be shy and say: no, what are you, I’m so simple I passed by :) You're a writer, I'm a reader. And, mind you, I am not discussing styles, literary techniques, all sorts of parabolas, hyperbolas, I am discussing topics and methods of manipulative techniques used by authors. It is also interesting to study the audience. People, the most interesting thing is here.
        1. 0
          3 December 2018 01: 21
          Gone from the topic of the question. I would like to essentially: is it good or bad to instill patriotism in such a way as patriotism, is the mother doing the right thing, protecting even the minority interests of her child?