Russian missiles again hit the Patriot air defense system in Kyiv

29 May 2023 32

After a successful night strike on military airfield in the Khmelnytsky region, the RF Armed Forces continued to work on military facilities of Ukraine. From 11 am, the air raid alarm went off in Kyiv. While residents are hiding in the subway and shelters, official authorities report on the work of air defense.

Unfortunately, eyewitnesses now share information about the explosions only in text format, since the publication of photos and videos is strictly prohibited by the SBU. However, personally the mayor of the capital, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the data of at least 15 explosions in Kyiv, including in the central districts of the city. In the Obolonsky district, a fragment of a Ukrainian anti-aircraft missile has already fallen on the road, damaging cars.

Local residents report a strong explosion near the Zhuliany airport on the outskirts of Kyiv. Another battery of the American MIM-104 Patriot anti-aircraft missile system is based there.

According to monitoring resources, ballistic missiles "Iskander" or hypersonic "Daggers" were launched in the Ukrainian capital. In addition to Kyiv, explosions are heard in Zhytomyr, as well as in the Dnepropetrovsk, Sumy and Chernihiv regions. The missile attack continues, and repeated arrivals in the western regions of Ukraine are not ruled out.

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Rusa

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29 May 2023 12: 00

Correct tactics. The destruction of military facilities and warehouses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will save the lives of many Russian soldiers during the NWO.
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Raymond

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29 May 2023 12: 39

Maybe a demonstration that the "Patriot" is still working in Kyiv? ... that it is not destroyed, as sung earlier.
1. Smilodon terribilis nimis
  
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  29 May 2023 15: 03
  
  Is he the only one, dude?
lukash66

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29 May 2023 12: 40

That is, if Nenko's air defense shoots down 90% of everything that flies, then interesting arithmetic turns out: 15 (at least) hits, that is, more than 160 kr, UAVs were launched. And daggers, daggers, just bundles.)))) In our General Staff, they probably scratch their turnips, where does so much come from and only to the capital city of Kukuev? And what was everything else thinned out with?
1. PROmt
  
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  31 May 2023 08: 11
  
  They also have 200% hits, the paper will endure everything
Anton Kuzmin

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29 May 2023 13: 38

Quote from: lukash66
That is, if Nenko's air defense shoots down 90% of everything that flies, then interesting arithmetic turns out: 15 (at least) hits, that is, more than 160 kr, UAVs were launched. And daggers, daggers, just bundles.)))) In our General Staff, they probably scratch their turnips, where does so much come from and only to the capital city of Kukuev? And what was everything else thinned out with?

You can think so bad! That the Russian Federation will never run out of "Caliber" and so on, because they are mass-produced! And this can never be, because any Svidomo knows that the "Caliber" ended back in March 2022! And what flies now is made of concrete and does not explode! And finally, ukronatoair defense is destroyed by all 287%! /neighing/ :)
Raymond

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29 May 2023 14: 01

You should stop having illusions about hypersonic missiles...

They are "hypersonic" outside the atmosphere ...
In the atmosphere, they face the same problem as all incoming celestial bodies: a wall of heat.
And in this area, until proven otherwise, Russia is no better than others.

There is another problem with speed: inertia forces.
This leads to the fact that the faster the rocket moves, the less maneuverable it becomes ... And "hypersound" is no exception, except for the fact that it calls into question the laws of gravity.

Russia chooses a hypersonic missile on the grounds that once it is discovered, it would be too late to block its interception...

The West believes that it is better to increase the detection range and preempt the shooting.
In fact, today the Russian hypersonic missile is still hanging on its carrier, the location of which the Patriot system already knows ... good! at the moment, the carrier aircraft is not a target.
The current difficulty of the Patriot is to intercept a large number of missiles flying from different directions ... note that at the moment he is successfully fulfilling his mission.
1. Siberia55
  
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  29 May 2023 14: 09
  
  All as warned
  Namely: belittling the qualities of hypersound and justifying and promoting the Patriot.
  And yes, he is fulfilling a mission to intercept daggers: one set - one dagger. Cool!
  1. Vdars
    
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    30 May 2023 00: 05
    
    What does the "interception" as a target, that is, the fall of the Dagger into the Patriot radar. How it was meant to be!!
2. Siberia55
  
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  29 May 2023 14: 11
  
  Now describe the shortcomings of US hypersound. Well, just as colorful.
  Not? Why? Oh, no hypersound?
  1. Raymond
    
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    29 May 2023 14: 38
    
    The American "hypersound" is no better than the Russian one.
    On the other hand, America is more realistic about statements about "hypersound", it does not produce it, just like Europe.
    Perhaps there is a technical reason (choice) that goes beyond political considerations.
    
    But one should also consider the fact that defense electronics are taking over.
    1. Dart2027
      
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      29 May 2023 22: 56
      
      Quote from Raymond
      The American "hypersound" is no better than the Russian one.
      On the other hand, America is more realistic about statements about "hypersound", it does not produce it, just like Europe.
      
      So not better or not producing?
      1. Raymond
        
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        30 May 2023 19: 28
        
        Not better (equivalent performance and higher cost) so not interesting to produce.
        And, as you know, this has been tested and not approved at all for a defensive or offensive strategy according to NATO standards.
        
        skeptic
        
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        30 May 2023 21: 58
        
        Quote from Raymond
        And, as you know, this has been tested and not approved at all for a defensive or offensive strategy according to NATO standards.
        
        Fox and grape.
      2. Retired from the digital age
        
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        31 May 2023 20: 28
        
        Is it a bot or google translate
    2. blackcat190463
      
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      30 May 2023 15: 31
      
      But one should also consider the fact that defense electronics is taking over
      
      It was tough, I almost died, I haven't laughed like that in a long time
      1. Raymond
        
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        30 May 2023 19: 29
        
        Very glad to brighten up your day in these dark times. At least one victory can be reported from the "western" side.
3. Vdars
  
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  29 May 2023 23: 52
  
  This leads to the fact that the faster the rocket moves, the less maneuverable it becomes.
  
  You are trying to mentally mix several dissimilar things. Bo maneuverability depends on the applied force of the controls and on the permissible overload of the product !!
  1. Raymond
    
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    30 May 2023 19: 57
    
    And the applied force of the controls does not depend on the speed or the amount of movement (reaction from the engine)?
    
    Is the load resistance (without overload) infinite?
    
    No ! ... for both ... thus, controllability is limited both by speed and by the resistance of the product to loads (not overloads). There is no mental mixing of disparate things, everything is connected by compromises in design.
4. Zenn
  
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  30 May 2023 00: 06
  
  Raymond shows "amazing" knowledge, designed for the same ignoramuses as himself. The term hypersonic comes from the theory of sound propagation in gaseous media (atmosphere in this case).
  If there is no gaseous environment, no atmosphere, vacuum, then sound does not propagate. And there is no speed of sound in a vacuum.
  
  They are "hypersonic" outside the atmosphere.
  
  So only Raymond could compose such a phrase.
  About the forces of inertia, how objects flying at supersonic and hypersonic speeds maneuver in the atmosphere, and what dynamic stability is, for Raymond is clearly beyond his understanding.
  Like anti-missiles that fly in short sections at a speed of Mach 10-15 and even higher (hypersound is something above 5 M) and at the same time maneuver, Raymond did not see, did not hear, and no one told him.
  And to comment that hypersound calls into question the laws of gravity ... Let Raymond tell his physics teacher, whose lessons he obviously skipped everything.
  
  The current difficulty of the Patriot is to intercept a large number of missiles flying from different directions...
  
  So far, we have seen that one Dagger was flying at the Patriot from one direction, and the Patriot fired its entire supply of anti-missiles - 32 pcs. The result is known, the Patriot is partially destroyed by one Dagger.
  So tell your nonsense Raymond in your Ukraine, there are a lot of fools there.
  1. hellman anton
    
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    30 May 2023 03: 39
    
    The patriot was destroyed by one dagger.... Hmm, but there will be evidence of this, well, except for words? How did you know the result, having a bagel in your hands?
    This is from the category of how Ukraine claims about trillions of downed daggers. Where are the puffs?
    1. Horon
      
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      30 May 2023 08: 14
      
      Where are the puffs?
      
      It's a double-edged weapon. Where are the proofs that Patrot is alive after the raid?
  2. Raymond
    
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    30 May 2023 06: 23
    
    The translator is sometimes reluctant to use technical words...
    
    However, sound travels in water, which is not a gas... that the atmosphere is not the end of the presence of gas (there is a troposphere, an ionosphere).
    
    And as for the relative "hypersonic", you know what it is written, it is related to the "Mach" number, a dimensionless quantity created on earth by earthlings and whose calculation is based on a "typical atmosphere", which is not a real atmosphere.
    In water, your rocket is not yet "hypersonic" ...
    
    Indeed, the laws of inertia will have to be rebuilt if you want to maneuver a "hypersonic" rocket in the Earth's atmosphere faster than a fly or a bee.
    
    Unpretentious and wordless, yesterday "Patriot" intercepted 11 "hypersonic".
    1. xy.znn.ru
      
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      30 May 2023 08: 17
      
      You have a very bad translator. He distorts everything, not only technical terms, but everything
      8-7
      1. Raymond
        
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        30 May 2023 20: 00
        
        I have a translator of "Russian" design... I am sincerely sorry to read your statements.
    2. Horon
      
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      30 May 2023 08: 25
      
      However, sound travels in water, which is not a gas... that the atmosphere is not the end of the presence of gas (there is a troposphere, an ionosphere).
      
      They are "hypersonic" outside the atmosphere ...
      
      Decide whether they are hypersonic in the atmosphere, or hyperluminal in a vacuum. For sound, the main thing is the environment, and not its name, respectively, all sorts of ionospheres there, from the point of view of physics, are only layers of the atmosphere.
      
      Unpretentious and wordless, yesterday "Patriot" intercepted 11 "hypersonic".
      
      By yourself again?
      For "wise men" like you, there is a bit of logic: to launch 11 "daggers" you need to raise 11 instants-31, do you really believe that such a number of instants was used?
      1. Raymond
        
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        30 May 2023 20: 12
        
        In fact, this is an information war ...
        
        On the one hand, Russia claims to have sent 11 Iskanders...perhaps to give the impression that its industrial production can produce the same number in a short period of time...
        
        On the other hand, Ukraine claims to have intercepted 40 objects out of 41, including 11 Iskanders... but there may have been only 1 Iskander, the one that was not intercepted...
        
        After all, it is entirely possible that the Patriot was only able to intercept 40 old missiles and not the only Iskander sent.
        
        So it is the advertisement of "Moskva" about its production "Iskanderov" that makes the advertisement "patriot" ...
5. RUR
  
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  30 May 2023 10: 33
  
  The West believes that it is better to increase the detection range and preempt the shooting.
  
  In Ukraine, it must be said, not the latest modification of the Patriot, the most modern radar capable of accompanying hypersound - GhostEye was still planned to be released at the end of 2022 / beginning of 2023, well, if Ukrainian patriots were equipped with the latest serial modification of the radar - LTAMDS, also capable of accompanying hypersound .... but this is doubtful
  1. RUR
    
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    30 May 2023 11: 54
    
    LTAMDS photo of the first of the GhostEye radar family
    
    https://patriotsystem.pl/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/ltamds4-1024x499.jpg
  2. Raymond
    
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    30 May 2023 20: 17
    
    But you know perfectly well what the Americans are...
    
    From the moment they announced the existence of their technology and the date of its creation and use, 10 years have passed.
    1. RUR
      
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      30 May 2023 21: 03
      
      A patriot in constant modernization - transferred to Ukraine by Holland / Germany is clearly not the latest modification, since they were in service with them for some time, and the second one - from the USA - should be similar for compatibility, then the radars of Ukrainian systems should be active, and
      LTAMDS, judging by the photo, is passive, so damaging / destroying it is much more difficult
kriten

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30 May 2023 10: 08

We have nothing to track the results of the strike, and this suggests that we still don’t have good intelligence from space.