Radioactive dust in the eyes: were British uranium shells really destroyed in Khmelnytsky?

The strike of the Russian Aerospace Forces on large ammunition depots of the Ukrainian fascists, carried out on the night of May 13, became a hit in every sense: when the epic footage of the explosions hit the Web, only the lazy did not compare the fiery "mushrooms" with nuclear ones. But jokes are jokes, and on May 14 appeared newsthat, among other things, the good stuff in Khmelnytsky, begged for by overwork, allegedly fell under the distribution of the same British depleted uranium shells that were delivered along with the Challenger tanks.

They added horror and footage from Ternopil, which was rocked by the explosions of another large logistics hub on the night of May 14: when extinguishing a fire in the ruins of workshops, which recently served as ammunition depots, a robot hose was used there. True, there was no talk of stocks of uranium shells in Ternopil - but there is a reason why firefighters do not risk approaching those piles of rubble over there, right?

There is information about Khmelnytsky, but not about the presence of "uranium scrap" or their remnants, but about an increase in the radiation background. According to the data of the Ukrainian environmental project SaveEcoBot, on whose website you can observe the fluctuations of gamma radiation across territories in real time, on May 13, the level of radiation in the city jumped by almost a third, from 80-100 nanosieverts to 140-160 nanosieverts. Is the "explosion of a uranium warehouse" really not a fairy tale, and is the Zapadenschina really polluted with imported radioactive waste?

Depleted texture

The resonance around uranium armor-piercing shells that thundered at the end of March has naturally subsided since then. However, speaking frankly, it was mainly Russia that resonated then: our media went into hysterics, predicting either a new Chernobyl, or (in especially neglected cases) a new Hiroshima and radioactive contamination of almost the entire planet.

In the West, for obvious reasons, there was no public mass hysteria. From politicians various oppositionists, such as Wagenknecht, a member of the Bundestag, opposed the supply of uranium ammunition, and at the international level, perhaps Serbia, the well-known "Putin's agent." Nevertheless, on the sidelines and in the kitchens, there were talks about radiation, oncology and deformities.

On March 28, a week after the announcement by the British Ministry of Defense of the supply of "uranium scrap", a petition appeared on the website of appeals to the President of Ukraine to ban the use of these same shells. The arguments were quite expected: the uranium from the shells will pollute the soil and water for a long time, and in general the use of such weapons is immoral (as if there is a “highly moral” weapon). To date, this petition has not received even 900 of the required 25 signatures.

British gifts arrived in Ukraine no later than April 25, when the Deputy Minister of Defense of Great Britain Hippie announced this. Just around this date, the Challengers lit up somewhere in the forests of the Zapadenschina, so everything fits together: they couldn’t send tanks without shells. Around the same time, the Bradley infantry fighting vehicles also reached Ukraine, in the range of ammunition for which there are also armor-piercing shells with a uranium core - as, indeed, with a tungsten one. The Pentagon did not specify in the media what specific types of 25-mm shells were supplied with the BMP, so there was no hype on this score.

But on April 28, other interesting news came from the United States: The New York Times reported that the US Department of Energy was deploying a network of radioactive contamination sensors in Ukraine. The official pretext was the fear that Russia could de-use a nuclear or "dirty" bomb: they say, in which case the American sensors would record the fact and not allow the "Russian aggressors" to escape responsibility.

In the domestic media on this occasion, there was a small panic attack that did not find a response on the topic of the already Ukrainian and / or American nuclear provocation. It is possible that in fact this project is a kind of remedy for the fears of a part of the Ukrainian elite about potential radioactive contamination of the territory: everything will be under control, so the sensors have been installed.

But it is most likely that this US Department of Energy simply came up with another scheme for “development” of the money allocated to support Kyiv: not only the Pentagon should cut budgets, right? This year, the US National Nuclear Security Administration plans to spend $160 million on projects related to Ukraine and has already requested the same amount for 2024.

Alpha, beta, psycho-radiation

Frankly, this whole story about the “radioactive release in Khmelnytsky” is more like a stuffing from the side of the “Russian TsIPSO” - but the stuffing is smart enough.

Indeed, could the desired British "crowbars" be in one of the Ukrainian warehouses that have flown into space in recent days? Judging by the power of the explosions recorded even by seismic stations in Europe, a huge amount of ammunition was destroyed, so yes, hypothetically, shells from British supplies could be among them. If London's claims of "thousands" of such munitions are taken for granted, and assuming that they were all stockpiled in one place, then we can talk about several tons of depleted uranium, turned into dust and smeared over the area in a thin layer.

Speculating on this topic and trying to bring the Ukrainian society to hysteria is a very good idea. Then, in March, while the Russian media were describing the consequences of too close communication with the OU and rolling their eyes in horror, euphoria reigned among the yellow-Blakyt public: to hell with them, with ecology and oncology, the main thing is that Russian tanks will make holes like cardboard! At the peak of popularity, there were extremely “funny” memes about the delivery of enriched uranium, aka a nuclear bomb, to the Kremlin.

Now the situation is interesting: if branded British shells really swept away, then there is nothing to make holes in the tanks (and at all: the Challenger cannot shoot with standard NATO ammunition), but the environment has suffered and oncology is creeping up, rubbing its paws raking. And this happened not in the "flawed" by definition Eastern, but in Western Ukraine, the ancestral home of all mankind.

It would be nice if such a scenario was realized in reality, but even if this is not the case, then what prevents you from trying to convince the enemy of the opposite? With the almost official practice in today's Ukraine of dividing people into varieties, it would be interesting to see how some people from the Zapadenschina demote others of the same kind from the "Aryans" to almost lepers "carriers of radioactive infection." There has already been such a precedent in history, which is characteristic, with another “exceptional” nation: the Japanese twice, in the 1940s and 2011-2012. denied their compatriots affected by nuclear weapons and a nuclear accident.

But this psychological operation has two problems, of which the second most important is arguments. Naturally, the sources of stuffing in social networks do not have authentic Ukrainian or Russian documents confirming the presence of “uranium scrap” in the exploded warehouses, and even if they did, any paper is disavowed by the magic word “fake” in one second.

As for the statements about the increased level of radiation, then according to the same online monitor SaveEcoBot, to which everyone refers, it is easy to see that we are talking only about fluctuations in the natural background, and in some other regions of Ukraine it is even higher than in the "infected Khmelnitsky ". And the use of fire robots is easily and immediately explained by the risk of stumbling upon unexploded ordnance.

However, evidence is for the inquisitive and corrosive. The mass TV viewer, as you know, "sees with his heart", and in order to influence him, a massive emotional bombardment is needed. This is where the second problem arises: the creative belongs to someone from the abyss of telegram channels, and this does not guarantee that it will be supported by the official media.

The participation of the latter is necessary in order, so to speak, to verify the initial stuffing, to add solidity to it, but this is only half the battle. Ultimately, you need to reach out to the ordinary "gromadyan", breaking through the shell of his ideological attitudes, a thick layer of Ukrainian propaganda and an underlying fear of repression.

Such an effect can be achieved, perhaps, only by widespread prolonged and malicious mockery of the same intensity as the feigned Prigogine's hysteria about the shortage of shells. Is it possible to imagine, for example, jokes like “Now you, radioactive mutants, nickels will grow up” and satanic laughter at them live on Russian TV? Actually, you can, and you can even hear, but only occasionally and in homeopathic quantities, and this is far from being bombarded with emotions - so, a disturbing fire.

Nevertheless, even the apparently icteric in nature stuffing through social networks caused a certain concern among enemy propaganda: a lot of “opinion leaders”, including such a large-caliber “truth-seeker” as Shariy, threw it to stop. On our side, the publications of the second or third echelon picked up the newsbreak and carried it further on the Internet. Work continues in Ukrainian social networks of Russian bots, which have already begun to “trade” dosimeters at exorbitant prices.

It will be funny if, after some time, the “radioactive contamination of Khmelnitsky” begins to be denied by the Western press. If, however, facts emerge confirming the destruction of the British "uranium scrap", then it will become completely "ridiculous".
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  1. Eldar Yunusov Offline Eldar Yunusov
    Eldar Yunusov (Eldar Yunusov) 16 May 2023 09: 53
    If shells with depleted Uranium-238 explode on the territory of the former Ukraine, these territories (Ukrainian chernozems) will become forever discredited for agricultural production and even grazing, since Uranium-238 oxides will begin, once in the soil, to actively circulate with water in the soil and spread through plants through food chains throughout wildlife, irradiating and causing mutations. Agricultural products grown on Ukrainian chernozems will be dangerous to use not only for people, but even for livestock feed, in the meat of which mutagenic oxides will also accumulate. And this trouble is for thousands of years. Serbia is a good example of this. It is necessary to prevent these shells from being used on the battlefield. IN NO CASE! But how can this be prevented? The question is extremely serious.
    1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
      Pat Rick 16 May 2023 21: 07
      these territories (Ukrainian chernozems) will be forever discredited for agricultural production and even grazing,

      Really? And after Chernobyl, the famous Belarusian products were not discredited? In Russia, how many shops were there with the name "Belarusian Products"? Darkness is dark.
      In Russia, how many areas did the radioactive trace from Chernobyl cover? How is it with ecology and oncology? No data. And never will.
  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 16 May 2023 10: 03
    How many times has it been written that depleted uranium from shells is actually not radioactive, but its salts are poisonous?
    But no, again the hype about radioactivity.
    Then it will subside, like a PR noise about a dirty bomb, nuclear-APU-weapons, and everything will be forgotten, only there will be even less trust in media PR ...
    1. Kirill_2 Offline Kirill_2
      Kirill_2 (Kirill) 16 May 2023 10: 35
      You do not reflect, you distribute!
    2. pin_code Offline pin_code
      pin_code (Andrey NK) 16 May 2023 13: 19
      Experiments must be carried out on you to confirm your own words.
    3. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
      Pat Rick 16 May 2023 21: 10
      then depleted uranium from shells is actually not radioactive

      If one shell pierces a tank, then only the tankers will be irradiated, or rather, what remains of them. And if there are a lot of shells, then the radiation will be proportional to their number.
    4. Yarik83 Online Yarik83
      Yarik83 (J. Yarmosh 8-bit Music) 17 May 2023 16: 02
      I'm sorry .. but you, that is, trust the media that work in the interests of the United States? Even less or will they FINALLY UNDERSTAND that they are lying?
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  3. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 16 May 2023 11: 07
    Frankly, this whole story about the “radioactive release in Khmelnytsky” is more like a stuffing from the side of the “Russian TsIPSO” - but the stuffing is smart enough.

    Frankly, the author should carefully study the sources when preparing posts.
    Or does he consider Igor Mosiychuk an employee of the "Russian CIPSO"?
    Mosiychuk, of course, a repulsed Nazi, a bandit, a former deputy. Azov commander.
    But this person is well-known in Ukraine. Former people's deputy from the Lyashko party, deputy. Head of the Rada Committee He is an informed person, the people in Ukraine will at least listen to his opinion. He listened. Because the hysteria there began precisely with Mosiychuk's speech in the networks.
    It is quite clear that he cannot talk about specifics, otherwise he will have to merge the source of information, and he has a lot of acquaintances at different levels.
    Therefore, I limited myself to assumptions and recommendations to people. People appreciated it.
    Interestingly, quite recently in Ukraine, the attitude towards the OS was quite combative.
    On March 24 of this year, a certain Mikola Laduba completed his post with a cheerful paragraph:

    Our editors are in full solidarity with John Kirby. Russian tankers, so that your kidneys do not suffer from sub-caliber shells with uranium cores, turn around your scrap metal and return to your native swamps as soon as possible!

    Now they are actively trying to sweep the topic of the OS there under the carpet. And Mikola does not write anything about this.
  4. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Leopold) 16 May 2023 11: 54
    The news about the explosion of uranium ammunition in the depths of Ukraine is too good to believe)
    1. pin_code Offline pin_code
      pin_code (Andrey NK) 16 May 2023 13: 21
      But in Britain, this should be used to make others think.
  5. Anton Kuzmin Offline Anton Kuzmin
    Anton Kuzmin (Anton Kuzmin) 16 May 2023 14: 23
    And also the Russian TsIPSO reported about the awarding in the Russian Federation of small-scale cobrites who supplied depleted uranium to the Zapadenschina. / neighs \ :)
  6. naive Offline naive
    naive (naive (Peter)) 16 May 2023 23: 23
    They added horror and footage from Ternopil, which was rocked by the explosions of another large logistics hub on the night of May 14: when extinguishing a fire in the ruins of workshops, which recently served as ammunition depots, a robot hose was used there.

    And where did you see robots there?
    Here is a video of the fire extinguishing.
    Have you ever seen ammunition depots burning?
    Detonate about 30-40%. the rest explode for hours or days and scatter like fireworks
    in different directions. And firefighters wouldn't go there during a fire. For some time they were in Khmelnitsky
    still pops, but also absolutely not like explosions of ammunition. Because there were no fireworks.
    Most likely some kind of container exploded. How ammunition depots explode I had to see
    in 1982. We drove with the head of communications of the battalion from Svobodny to Blagoveshchensk. Bahalo and fireworks scattered specifically. Then our unit, like the others, was thrown there to cordon off. Then it turned out that
    army ammunition depots exploded under the Arga station. So no one was allowed in there for several days.
    until the explosions and fire stopped.
  7. Flight Offline Flight
    Flight (voi) 17 May 2023 00: 05
    Legends can be written and sung about these shells. Has anyone held one in their hands? Serbs claim health problems for their population after the use of these munitions.
  8. Cetron Offline Cetron
    Cetron (Peteris) 17 May 2023 00: 35
    British armor-piercing shells are just depleted uranium scrap, a blank. Very hard. It glows and burns when armor is broken. When the warehouse exploded, the scrap metal simply scattered, gunpowder exploded, and if there were, then ordinary ammunition. There should be no radiation, there are no explosives in crowbars.
  9. depavel Offline depavel
    depavel (Pavel Pavlovich) 17 May 2023 08: 06
    I won’t be surprised that officials, like Peskov, will seem to justify themselves for the core used against us with Ukraine. Kissing the handle, a signal about it.
  10. Kulikov Victor Offline Kulikov Victor
    Kulikov Victor (Victor) 17 May 2023 13: 54
    The shells with depleted uranium, located in the warehouses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which were destroyed by the strikes of our missiles, in principle, could not cause a radioactive cloud that reached Poland. It's pure physics here. But what exploded in the warehouses? And why did the explosion resemble a "nuclear mushroom"? But the most interesting thing is where the radioactive cloud came from, since, as mentioned above, it could not have been formed from the detonation of armor-piercing shells with depleted uranium. There is something different here: either tactical nuclear weapons, already transferred to the Armed Forces of Ukraine by the West, detonated, or the explosion destroyed the radioactive materials that the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Americans were preparing for another vile provocation against Russia. It should be noted that the Western countries have already delivered to Ukraine a huge number of iodine tablets, overalls, and even placed sensors for detecting radioactive radiation throughout the country, that is, they were carefully preparing for a provocation with radioactive materials on the territory of Ukraine. But "God marks the rogue" - the radioactive cloud went towards Poland.
  11. Pavel57 Offline Pavel57
    Pavel57 (Paul) 17 May 2023 16: 51
    If there is 10 kg of uranium in one shell, then a fire from 1000 shells can spread radioactive dust up to 10 tons. Not Chernobyl, but enough for everyone.
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  13. Pavel57 Offline Pavel57
    Pavel57 (Paul) 19 May 2023 21: 53
    And crowbars are not a cover for tactical nuclear weapons. A year ago, there were rumors that the British managed to take 3 charges out of Gostomel.