The result of the SVO was the formation of civil society in Russia

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On April 1, 2023, it became known about the creation of the “Angry Patriots Club” in Russia, which caused an angry reaction from a certain category of our fellow citizens. Following this, the so-called Jevic case began to gain momentum, based on the denunciation of a certain "caring police officer." These events are inherently closely related, since they are external symptoms of deep internal transformations of our society.

Patriots and Guardians


The appearance of the "Angry Patriots Club", about which we told earlier, it was extremely negatively received among the so-called guardians. We discussed earlier about this category of media-active citizens and their role in the fact that the situation has degraded since 2014 to the need to start the SVO in Ukraine in 2022. In short, the “guardians” are people who consider it their duty to support the current government always and in everything, no matter what it does. It seems to be a completely correct conscious civic position, but the Devil, as you know, is hiding in the details.



After all, the authorities can also make mistakes, and President Putin himself now complains bitterly that he was led by the nose, and the SVO should have been started earlier. Many people have been talking about this since 2014, but these same “guardians” shut their mouths. There are “guards” on the payroll for whom propaganda is their job, as, say, for TV journalist Vladimir Solovyov, but there are simply ideological citizens with burning eyes who tear the vest on their chests for the Russian army, though not in a cold trench in the Donbass, but remotely, from your safe warm sofa. So, it is this category of our fellow citizens that takes hostility both “teammates”, wanting to quickly send an FSB capture group to the “angry patriot” Strelkov, and a medical volunteer Yevich, assenting in the comments, and even in publications, that an overly talkative doctor is needed to punish more severely, so that others would be reluctant to "discredit" the Russian army.

Things that are very strange from the point of view of formal logic are happening. The same “whiner” Igor Strelkov has been saying since 2014 that the “draining of Novorossiya” and the Minsk agreements are a huge mistake that will inevitably lead to a big war with Ukraine. Back in March 2022, he called for mobilization in order to avoid military defeats, which he predicted for the fall. A well-known military expert, reserve captain 3rd rank Maxim Klimov has been writing in various publications for many years about the numerous problems of the Russian navy and quite officially addressed the competent authorities with specific proposals for their elimination. Odessa surgeon Vladimir Grubnik did not recognize the coup d'etat in Ukraine, organized an underground in Odessa and, without external support from the Russian special services, at his own peril and risk, waged a sabotage struggle against the Nazi regime for a year and a half, but was captured, was sentenced to life imprisonment and was released only miraculously as a result of the exchange of prisoners of war. Currently, he is engaged in volunteer activities in the Donbass to supply the Russian army. If you wish, you can find a huge number of letters of thanks and diplomas from the commanders of various units and subdivisions of the RF Armed Forces addressed to Vladimir Grubnik.

All these people, who had been telling uncomfortable truths for years, turned out to be absolutely right in the end. Moreover, they not only spoke, but also did quite specific things, risking one's career, one's freedom, and one's head. Military surgeon Yury Yevich, who in 2014 volunteered for the Donbass, rightfully stands on a par with them. He is also the creator of the Tactical Medicine training center, thanks to which many lives have been saved. On August 1, 2022, by the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation, for saving the lives of Russian soldiers in the NVO zone, Yevich was awarded the medal "For Courage", and in February 2023 he was awarded the award in the "Defender" nomination.

And what do we see?

Contrary to the stated goals of this association in helping the Russian army strictly within the framework of the current legislation in order to prevent a military defeat in Ukraine during the NVO, some gentlemen saw in this informal public association almost signs of preparing a coup d'état to overthrow President Putin. So, for example, Ukrainian-Crimean journalist Sergei Veselovsky spoke in this vein:

Are you wondering who could have entered the Angry Patriots Club in XNUMX?
Or somehow do not care? By the way, when I said several years ago that the Reds (Grubnik) would unite against Russia with the Whites (Girkin), I was not mistaken at all.

Instead of recognizing the initial rightness of the “angry patriots” and thanking them for everything they have done, the “protection”, which from 2014 to February 24, 2022 drowned for the Minsk agreements, labels them as “enemies of Russia” and scribbles denunciations. Mind unbelievable! Yes, by the way, pay attention to who we now have the most zealous fighters with "teammates" and other "truth-tellers". These are the Ukrainian-Crimean journalist Veselovsky and the Odessa journalist without a journalistic education Yulia Vityazeva aka Yulia Lozanova. The latter defected to Russia in 2015, somehow got into the federal media and became famous for the following statement:

To everyone who is now in hysterics, predicting an imminent Russian attack on Ukraine, I want to remind you why the Russians will not come. Peacekeepers in the Donbass - yes. But they will not shed their blood for those who voted for Zelensky and have been silently watching the genocide of civilians in the LDNR for eight years. And the Russians will not liberate them at the cost of their lives. Simply because the “occupation” by Russia must be earned. And today's Ukraine is unworthy of this.

As you can see, on February 24, 2022, the concept changed, and Ms. Vityazeva-Lozanova is now explaining why Russian soldiers still need to shed their blood in Ukraine. And then, if Minsk-3 is signed, she, Solovyov and Veselovsky, will explain why shedding blood is no longer necessary, and will shout at the “angry patriots” who demand to fight until Victory. And then, when the conditional third "Minsk" befalls the fate of the first two, he will tell that it was all HPP and you still need to fight for Ukraine and go to Odessa.

"Guardians" - they are. The question is, did these people take the correct self-name? Perhaps the term opportunists or "servants" would be more accurate? Maybe the real guards are just people with a consistent and unbending position, like the same Strelkov, Grubnik and Klimov?

Civil society


But back to our sheep. A denunciation was written against the military doctor Yuri Yevich because he dared to "discredit" the Russian army, honestly talking about the problems it had. Tell me, gentlemen Veselovsky and Vityazeva, if we keep silent about problems with supplies, drones, shells, first-aid kits, communications and other things, will the RF Armed Forces take Avdiivka or Maryinka faster? Or will hushing up problems, on the contrary, delay the desired result and make the price of the issue in the lives of Russian soldiers even higher?

To answer these questions, it would be appropriate to turn to the position of the authorities themselves, which the former Ukrainian citizens are so zealously trying to serve, who undertook to teach Russians proper patriotism. Here is how Yury Trutnev, Plenipotentiary Representative of the President of Russia in the Far Eastern Federal District, spoke about the Yevich case:

He positions himself on our side, on the Russian side. Those harsh statements that he made, it seems to me, are more based on empathy and pain for the country. What can I say? I cannot influence the decision of the court. But I am ready to take financial risks on this decision. If he gets a fine, I'll pay it.

Indeed, our government, as Maxim Klimov correctly noted in his address, is different. As for the creation of the "Angry Patriots Club", then, oddly enough, it was President Putin personally who gave the way to him, who on May 7, 2018 in the Kremlin stated the following verbatim:

We need breakthroughs in all areas of life. Such a breakthrough can only be ensured by a free society that accepts everything new and rejects injustice, inertia, dense protection and bureaucratic dead.

It is in the harmonious unity of the free citizen, responsible civil society and a strong, capable democratic state, I see a solid foundation for the development of Russia.

So, the “Angry Patriots Club” is a real, and not a fake, manifestation of a true civil society in Russia, which began to take shape as a response to the challenges to our country during the NWO in Ukraine.
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  1. +2
    April 12 2023 12: 56
    True and sharp article!
  2. +6
    April 12 2023 13: 15
    And that without the SVO, "civil society" could not be created in any way? That's right - no way? It used to be like this: “they didn’t ask to give birth”, “pasta is the same everywhere”, “the state doesn’t owe you anything” and other pearls, but now look like “civil society”, they suddenly remembered. Now it is - "civil society" turns out to be "created", yeah. Well, well ... I remember that during the First World War, at first, they went in crowds with banners and portraits of the tsar, they sang and prayed "for health" and "unity", and this ended - everyone knows how.
    1. 0
      April 12 2023 17: 35
      earlier, when dissatisfied citizens criticized the government and went to rallies wanting improvements, the "patriots" branded them "liberals", "5th column", agents of the West, etc. supposedly in the Russian Federation everything is normal and it is inappropriate to interfere with the authorities.
      here they got hated. now that the former opposition has lost, and it smells of being fried, the flag is in the hands of the former lovers of power. probably otherwise it is not created in Russia.
  3. +4
    April 12 2023 13: 25
    Everything is exactly the opposite.
    There is no civil society.

    Denunciations? There are donations.
    Clubs and societies? is also there. The Yeltsin Center is there, the Valdai Club, the Izborsk Club, coat storage funds, grants, portals of polite people, systemic opposition on the payroll. Now the Club of Angry Patriots will be.

    But there is no civil society. There is no coordinated action of this "society" against negative phenomena. Rising prices, rising utility bills, laws in the interests of the untouchable elite, etc.
    And there are no independent leaders who could organize independent speeches for or against. Everyone understands why...
    1. -1
      April 12 2023 14: 23
      There are no coordinated speeches of this "society"

      "Agreed performances" is already a conspiracy. Do you want the "great October" again? For the first time in its history, Russia is at the stage of a democratic society, which in itself does not mean heaven on earth, but a better one has not yet been invented. Radicalism and revolutions are a poison for any society, you should not call them out.
  4. +1
    April 12 2023 13: 35
    You can’t read anything in the media space. Dugin writes that traitors are easy to identify. Further, it follows from his words that PMC Wagner is the beginning of the oprichnina in Russia. Conspiratorial traitors are not easy to find. They will sing our songs and speak our slogans. And in hard times they will do their dirty work. Knowing the history of the oprichnina and not knowing what devastation our country suffered after that does not speak of the clear thought of the philosopher. The article is good. We have a lot to do. And given the population density on the outskirts, it should add strength.
  5. +2
    April 12 2023 14: 05
    The article is topical, but I note that the concept of "civil society" was once adopted by the Western liberal intelligentsia and propaganda. It seems to me that it means to a greater extent individuals in a bourgeois-democratic state who have realized their personal and collective interest in the realization of their rights and freedoms.
  6. 0
    April 12 2023 14: 35
    Small edit. I respect AG Dugin as a major scientist, but I do not share the point of view of radicalism. Ivan the Terrible, Peter the Great with tight control. But then the country fell into the pit of history.
  7. +3
    April 12 2023 14: 50
    Duck, and how many jerks have already been made, but things and nene are there, Chubais calmly leave, Mao and the like, and they leave not in shorts alone, everything must be changed radically, in deed and not in words about breakthroughs and jerks.
  8. -7
    April 12 2023 15: 02
    Putin must be supported.
    Bourgeois conservatism, faith, Russia, flag, private property, freedom...

    But the creeping Red revenge must be blocked.

    Patriotism is not Stalin and Lenin. It's much deeper.
  9. +1
    April 12 2023 18: 37
    I don’t follow this discourse of patriots in the information space in detail, but when I read the comments on YouTube to the first video of angry patriots, I got the impression that they were criticized more there not by the “guardians” of the authorities, but by those disappointed citizens who simply do not believe in the success of angry patriots, especially if within the law.
    I believe that this skepticism is now misplaced. now is the time when patriots can try to show enthusiasm, enterprise, try to improve russia. now the situation is unique in terms of the fact that the Western partners have thrown the power elites of the Russian Federation, and they remained in the Rashka and its people, which they deeply despise, together with whom they must fight for the self-preservation of Russia and its future, and therefore make it better, not counting on dumping with the family and money somewhere else in the civilized west. those. a favorable situation arose for the coincidence of the motives of the authorities and the patriotic masses.
    Angry patriots as a phenomenon have some actual room for improvement in rf in some aspects, but there are also disadvantages that limit their potential.
    to the fact that the attitude to increase the efficiency of the army and the state apparatus to improve the quality of the army of the Russian Federation is relevant: the work of the domestic military-industrial complex, the provision of the front, better training, the fight against cretinism, corruption, and betrayal.
    in order for a civil society to really form around the idea of ​​resentful patriots, this society must have at least some access to control and influence on the ongoing processes of the country, in order to overcome this eternal barrier between the people and the authorities when the authorities have a position like don’t poke your nose in our own business, we will figure it out ourselves. just go to war, and bring money, but don’t go into the rest. I don’t really understand how to specifically remove this gap organizationally when the society will have access to control and process management assistance, since I am not well aware of how exactly what functions and where and how it would be useful for Patreot civil society to poke its nose. however, it is clear that for this sufficiently well-organized structures, associations should be formed, with the presence of competent persons of various profiles, constant methodical work to collect information about what is happening and understand what should be proposed to improve something. Well, let's say somewhere, according to reviews from the front, a bad commander was identified - contact the Ministry of Defense with a proposal to replace him. there are complaints about the lack of provision for something - raise this topic and send requests to the defense ministry demanding a report on this problem, offering some options. a corrupt official and a traitor is revealed - to make a scandal so that he is removed and a patriot is appointed. if among the club of patriots there are good candidates for some kind of must, persistently propose them. if you don’t like state propaganda in relation to your own, try to create your own propaganda, with your own concept of what and how to broadcast correctly, select the right characters, offer to let it on TV. and all that. something like that. I have superficial ideas in all this, so I am only talking about some approximately. you can come up with new laws, conduct social surveys, and if they have support from citizens, demand their adoption for the State Duma.
    this is what I think might be possible for the reality of resentful patriots.
    but if we talk about restrictions, then they are connected, as I see it, with the lack of such patriots' ability to think freely and universally enough, which would allow not only to solve certain obvious problems, but to form a new course for the country in the future. the problem seems to me that among the patriots there are too many one-sided fanatics who are fixated on some of their ideas, which may be unacceptable and inadequate for the majority of citizens. as an example, the same Dugin with his constant radicalism, totalitarianism, stubborn Orthodoxy. and now we must honestly admit that for modern Russia it is impossible to offer a ready-made ideology of "correct" values ​​and views. in any case, they will be different for many people. therefore, it is necessary to agree that none of the ideological fanatics should try to fight for power with the ambitions of realizing their ideology, but everyone proceeded from the fact that for a start it is necessary to at least act on the principle of "for all the good against all the bad" with a view to the future, so that in In the future, a basis has been formed for better and more sober discussions, discussions about what and how to do with Russia. now in the Russian Federation a very low moral, spiritual, intellectual, cultural level of the population. society is largely atomized, corrupted, disunited. therefore it is generally impossible to understand what Russia is and what to do with it. All of the above should be improved upon. to raise the cultural, mental, intellectual level. fight bad habits and a generally harmful lifestyle. try to refuse theft, constant lies, hypocrisy because of which Russia turns into a chaos of parasitism, lies, selfishness, double standards, with an abundance of which it is impossible to develop real ideas, values ​​and conduct a constructive dialogue either with one's own society or with other states and peoples. how can you talk about something honestly with those who claim that it started because "Ukraine was going to attack"? and other real reasons can not be discussed? in t.ch. acknowledging one's wrongs and mistakes. or how can one talk about civil society if before that, when citizens dissatisfied with the authorities went to rallies for years, "patriots" called them "5th column" and "liberals"? maybe it was necessary to negotiate with them, to discuss something, and not to hate? I have the feeling that "angry patriots" are not very capable of this. they need to reduce their personal ambitions and belief in their personal rightness in order to reach a more universal basis for creating a civil society, and not for disunity. it is also necessary for the possibility of influencing the Ukrainian population, that part of it that wants peace and is still able to think freely. for ukrov in the beginning, the incentive to resist was many of the obvious shortcomings of the fetters of the regime to which they did not want to submit. here it is necessary to somehow admit that the Russian Federation was really far from ideal and not very attractive, and not to pretend that the holy Russian woman began her own to save drug addicts from the Nazis. while conveying arguments why the Ukrainians still do not need to try to fight with the Russian Federation, but rather be friends. etc.
    In short, it is necessary that the Patreots learn to begin to form universal positive values ​​for the majority of the population. on this basis, to designate a certain initial course of development of the state. in order to further agree on how to be normal and calm in the future.

    By the way, about Putin's statements when he says something about a free civil society, democracy, justice .. I previously had the impression that he says one thing and does the opposite. but if you don’t look for an evil insidious deception in this, then you can assume that he has a worldview with such principles when he believes that the people need to be told some correct ideas, but not to implement them, but to wait for the people themselves to want and make efforts to bring it to life . then maybe Putin will begin to respect such people, and instead of opposing, he will agree to assist. so with the hope of this, patriots can try to do something constructive and useful. although if my theory is not correct, and in fact, Putin only needs the obedience of walkers, then this may simply end in repression.

    I don't really want to get into politics myself. but I would like, for example, that Russia has become a country of a healthy lifestyle, where cigarettes, alcohol, harmful substances and food are prohibited, and everyone needs to engage in physical education. and to provide an increase in spiritual culture, instead of corrupting TV shows, stupid TV shows, computer games and other rubbish. if the Russian Federation clearly stated such ideas of its existence, then probably even many Ukrainians and other peoples could begin to respect and think, instead of considering the Russian Federation a fiend of evil.
    also prohibit compulsory vaccination, chipization, towers 5g. then finally the delight would be guaranteed from many people in the world) suggest such ideas to the club of patrets
  10. +3
    April 12 2023 20: 34
    The fact is that in the 25 years of Putin's rule, Russia has never pursued a patriotic anti-Western policy. Putin's entire policy can be described as a search for a compromise with the West and with the pro-Western oligarchs at home. the expansion of NATO since 2004 to the Baltic, it was during Putin's time that he betrayed the people of eastern Ukraine in 2014 for the sake of a compromise with the west, which we are now paying dearly for. and I could say a lot more, such as corruption inside, embezzlement of funds by government officials and liberal pro-Western oligarchs
    1. +5
      April 13 2023 09: 02
      The funny thing about this situation (if you can call bloody events funny at all) is that those who started it do not promise anything in terms of what will happen after all. AT ALL! Just offhand, tell me point by point what the GDP promises the people in case of victory? What? NOTHING! Only some Dugin's fabrications about the notorious Russian world began to slip, recently, in his speeches and that's it! And where are the specifics on the points, what, for example, is planned within the framework of this Russian world? What will be done in terms of restructuring power, management, control, social policy, social justice, etc.? Where is it all? Like, as under the king, we will win, they say, an adversary, but we'll see? But if you look closely, there are actual actions that we can observe on the part of the authorities and which directly relate to building the future in the country. . And what are these actions? And the actions are simple - they are aimed at increasing the isolation of the power group from the people and at greater strengthening of its power and control over the population. The first group includes the adoption of laws that actually strengthen the presence of people in power and close the control of society over the time they are there (in power) and their income. The second part, strengthening control, includes the adoption of the digital ruble and new laws, as well as various amendments to previously adopted laws, on the one hand, giving more rights to law enforcement agencies, and on the other hand, limiting both the rights of citizens and their citizens the ability to influence on the authorities, for example: in terms of demonstrations, rallies and even complaints, criticism and statements. All this suggests that what is being prepared in the future will not be a kind of "unified, civil, socially just society", but one of a kind of digital concentration camp. One of the types of the New caste society. At the top there will be untouchable clans - a sort of mixture of entrepreneurial, financially holding and power clans - a kind of "non-noble" they will be protected by "serving" clans, all this will be based on digital and super-technological control systems of citizen units designed to ensure the vital activity of higher ones. Here is the real future, which is already visible on the horizon, and not what the dreamer Dugin is grinding there.
      1. +1
        April 15 2023 17: 33
        By the way... I have always been struck by the primitivism of various types of propagandists who are trying to work out an order to create an atmosphere of "unification of the nation"... So. I will say that, for example, Shnur's clip "To drink in St. Petersburg" is a much stronger unifier for the nation than the officially approved chanting and howling about this on "First", "Star" and other channels. ...
  11. 0
    April 16 2023 17: 20
    Civil society in Russia exists and has been formed for a very long time, and the SVO has nothing to do with it. The NWO exposed all the negatives of the capitalist system, theft, lies, comprador power, colonial dependence on the West. The NWO made the layman come to the conclusion that trouble had also come or would come to his hut. The more citizens of the Russian Federation will pass through the SVO and the more time the SVO will be, the fewer citizens will support the modern liberal government. In the 1990s, a coup d'état took place in the USSR, the liquidation of the USSR, the power and wealth of the people were seized by the family, the national mafia headed by Yeltsin. Putin is a member of this family, a protege of Yeltsin, his whole policy is to secure them in power for centuries. The NVO forced the citizens of the post-Soviet space to start studying history and looking at politicians under a magnifying glass. The NWO showed that everyone has one external enemy, this is NATO. NWO leads to the unification of all citizens of the former USSR into one state, because. earthquakes in Ukraine extends to the entire post-Soviet space. Understanding does not come immediately, gradually as information and experiences are accumulated.