What does a demonstration of XNUMX-ton bombs to Shoigu mean?

April 6 2023 49

On April 6, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu carried out an inspection of the implementation of the state defense order (GOZ) in the Nizhny Novgorod region. At the same time, the Russian Ministry of Defense published interesting photographs from one of the enterprises of the military-industrial complex of the region, where ammunition of various nomenclature is produced.

The head of the military department inspected the shops where the production of artillery and aviation weapons (various shells and bombs) is carried out. For example, the photographs show the process of manufacturing bombs. At the same time, the flashing FAB-500s do not cause big questions and surprise, but the FAB-1500 of increased power make you think about what is happening.

The thing is that for some time the Russian Aerospace Forces have been actively using the unguided free-falling FAB-500, previously converted into precision-guided munitions using the universal planning and correction module (UMPC).

The appearance of a large number of brand new unguided free-falling FAB-1500s may indicate that the UMPC has adapted ammunition for this as well. Only in this case, "then screwing on the wings," does the serial production of these bombs make sense.

What does a demonstration of XNUMX-ton bombs to Shoigu mean?

In this regard, it can be assumed that the Russian Aerospace Forces received a much cheaper analogue of controlled, powerful, but expensive bombs UPAB-1500B. It can be seen that the ammunition is new and their production is on stream. This is not a "Potemkin village", which means that the FAB-1500 will soon be in the army, and they will be used in the NVO zone.

According to reports, defense industry enterprises have increased their output by several times in recent months, working to provide Russian troops. Moreover, the expansion of ammunition production capacity continues.

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Denisimo

+11

April 6 2023 19: 44

Literally today, American Forbes joyfully wrote that a shell shortage had begun in Russia, and the defense industry could not produce more than 20. pieces per month. It's good that they calm themselves. The main thing is that the output should really be increased.
1. krot
  
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  April 7 2023 08: 39
  
  The appearance of a large number of brand new unguided free-falling FAB-1500s may indicate that the UMPC has adapted ammunition for this as well. Only in this case, "then screwing on the wings," does the serial production of these bombs make sense.
  
  It is immediately clear that the author is not familiar with aerodynamics! The shape of these bombs does not in any way favor flights with "wings". Well, quite funny "experts"
  And yet, why paint and bring the product to its final form, if then again they are going to "sculpt" something to it ..?
  1. Ezekiel 25-17
    
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    April 7 2023 11: 27
    
    Here we will check for you.
  2. Dingo
    
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    April 7 2023 12: 09
    
    And yet, why paint and bring the product to its final form
    
    And why did Rogozin try, until they kicked this "son" and "loser-journapygus", to paint launch vehicles in "Khokhloma"? This is from the same opera ... Looks like the "plywood" is hot ... Well, PR (cheap) is "our everything", our "clamps" (c) ...
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  4. wladimirjankov
    
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    April 7 2023 14: 24
    
    The shape of these bombs, by no means, is conducive to flying with "wings"
    
    The UMPC kit may also include fairings for fab 1500. The paint is not an obstacle to its fastening. Here the question is different. How many of these (UMPCs) do we have in stock and how many of them can we produce per day, week, month? In order to provide videoconferencing in the required quantity. FABs of these for 1500; 500 and 250kg, we should have a large amount and stocks left from Soviet times, unless of course they were sold, written off and disposed of in Syria. And for Shoigu it would be better to light up and promote at the factory for the production of these same (UMPC) than FAB. But it seems there is nothing to show and brag about. Probably everything is in its infancy, small-scale and handicraft. And this business must be put on stream, developed as quickly as possible, just like the production of UAVs.
  5. Sergei N
    
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    11 January 2024 15: 33
    
    Quote: krot
    The appearance of a large number of brand new unguided free-falling FAB-1500s may indicate that the UMPC has adapted ammunition for this as well. Only in this case, "then screwing on the wings," does the serial production of these bombs make sense.
    
    It is immediately clear that the author is not familiar with aerodynamics! The shape of these bombs does not in any way favor flights with "wings". Well, quite funny "experts"
    And yet, why paint and bring the product to its final form, if then again they are going to "sculpt" something to it ..?
    
    What's stopping you from putting a fairing on your nose?
2. sgrabik
  
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  April 7 2023 12: 01
  
  Our industry must be transferred to a war footing, otherwise we simply cannot win NATO.
  1. Nelton
    
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    April 7 2023 12: 24
    
    Quote: sgrabik
    Our industry must be transferred to a war footing, otherwise we simply cannot win NATO.
    
    How do you want to defeat NATO?
    Red flag over the Capitol?
    it doesn’t work, they also have enough nuclear weapons.
    Everything else is a protracted confrontation.
    
    and in the long run, it is important to maintain and develop industry and infrastructure.
    
    Here today:
    
    “Infrastructure construction is one of the key factors in creating favorable and comfortable conditions for the life of citizens and the development of the country's economy. Today we approved a list of almost 400 infrastructure facilities in 53 regions, which will be commissioned at a faster pace,” said Marat Khusnullin.
    
    The total amount of support is 180 billion rubles
    
    You may be indignant that 180 billion rubles will be spent on the infrastructure of Russian cities, and not on turning Ukrainian cities into rubble ...
skeptic

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April 6 2023 19: 59

The Chief Acceptor of the Quality Control Department is the NATO Armed Forces. Only they can realistically assess our types of weapons.
1. Vladimir Tuzakov
  
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  April 6 2023 21: 31
  
  Shaken authority needs to be raised with something, well, here’s a photo against the background of large FABs, what power. The only question is how to bring this "cast iron" onto the enemy if the air defense of the IEDs is not suppressed and more and more advanced samples are being received. Something the advertisers of the reindeer breeder did not tie. Now, if against the background of the new planning and shells Krasnopol, in large series, then the questions diminished, positive reviews increased ..
  1. mgero
    
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    April 6 2023 21: 41
    
    Since when does "plywood" have authority? At the front, below the major, everyone scolds.
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
      
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      April 7 2023 02: 08
      
      mgero, this is for those who are shaking with fear, our Shoigu * plywood * and for those who have already experienced the power of our troops in their own skin, he is completely different. But they are silent, already silent forever. There are only those who are in line and who still have their snake tongues teleporting.
      1. Dingo
        
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        April 7 2023 12: 20
        
        Oleg, do not confuse "the power of the army" and "the incompetence of hand-drivers" ... Don't - it's too expensive ... I know that for sure ... And not from "urya-quacks" (do not take it personally).
  2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
    
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    April 7 2023 02: 11
    
    Vladimir, who has Shoigu's authority shaken? Do you and people like you? Who are you anyway?
    1. Dingo
      
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      April 7 2023 12: 30
      
      who are you?
      
      And this is already rudeness ... Like - "whose will you be, lackey? To open your mouth at the master?"... Isn't it too early, bar? You haven't "blown through" the war yet? And wars "on points" are not won! This is not tennis for you, in the memory of this "amateur", the earth is glassy to him. "Plywood" also applies ...
  3. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
    
    -1
    
    April 7 2023 02: 18
    
    Vladimir, why are you not Shoigu, huh? Then we would have won everyone.
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viktor goblin

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April 6 2023 20: 23

Sense from them? There is no air supremacy and never will be ...
1. Dingo
  
  +1
  
  April 7 2023 13: 02
  
  There is no air supremacy and never will be ...
  
  In order to have "air supremacy" - the "Svidomites" did not find their own "Taburetkin" ... Therefore, our Aerospace Forces "smear" "from the cabriolet", with their nose up, over the squares ... And there is no strength to break the Soviet air defense .. They did it conscientiously, at one time ... And to create their own continuous r / location coverage field ... Expensive, long, laborious ... Tula will not let you lie ... So what are the benefits of these "wunderwafers" ... Well , if only the "plywood" drags them himself, on his hump ... All the benefits, some kind ...
  1. hell MASTER
    
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    April 7 2023 14: 08
    
    After Serdyukov, 10+ years have already passed, are you not ashamed to write this nonsense? During this time, you can make a new army. Maybe it’s not about him? But about something else?
    Ukraine built an army from scratch in 8 years, but here in 10 they could not make normal air bombs. So who is to blame, the man who was 10 years ago?
    1. Alexey Lan
      
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      April 8 2023 17: 10
      
      In general, Shoigu, as Minister of Defense, buys for the army what the military-industrial complex does, for the money that the budget allocates to him and the equipment that was ordered at the factories of the military-industrial complex according to the country's defense strategy, which in turn is being developed by the General Staff, long before delivery to the troops.
      1. hellman anton
        
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        April 8 2023 17: 20
        
        phaaahahahahah, hmm .. And here the propaganda is connected
Little Muck_2

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April 6 2023 20: 27

Maybe it's better to inspect the production of Hymars analogues ?!
1. skeptic
  
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  April 6 2023 21: 03
  
  Quote: Little Muk_2
  Maybe it's better to inspect the production of Hymars analogues ?!
  
  At least communication, for fighters and units.
2. Just a cat
  
  +1
  
  April 6 2023 22: 53
  
  analogue of hymers is a hurricane
  1. hell MASTER
    
    0
    
    April 6 2023 23: 00
    
    A hurricane is not an analogue of a hymers, it just hits somewhere there. And a hymers, as you call it, is a high-precision weapon. At exhibitions, they developed high-precision for MLRS, but apparently sending millions of missiles into the void is better than burning everything you want pointwise.
    Everything is decided by the characteristics of the shells / missiles. Now imagine that 100 hurricanes burned out everything they wanted with the help of similar missiles like those of the Himars
    1. boriz
      
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      April 7 2023 11: 49
      
      Tornado G (since 2012), Tornado S (since 2016). Exactly what you write about.
    2. Just a cat
      
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      April 8 2023 07: 13
      
      the accuracy of the missiles depends and not on the launcher. the same tank can plow a field with blanks, or it can release a red field.
    3. Vdars
      
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      April 8 2023 15: 43
      
      An analogue of Hymers is Tonado - a further development of Tornado .... ..
    4. Alexey Lan
      
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      April 8 2023 17: 05
      
      Hymers also shoots regular rockets.
  2. sgrabik
    
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    April 7 2023 12: 05
    
    The Hymars analogue is not a Hurricane, it is a Tornado - S.
  3. Sergei N
    
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    April 8 2023 02: 13
    
    Quote: Just Cat
    analogue of hymers is a hurricane
    
    In some sense, the Tornado-S MLRS can be considered an analogue of HIMARS, but certainly not the Uragan.
    1. Just a cat
      
      0
      
      April 8 2023 07: 33
      
      "Hurricane-1M" performance characteristics are similar.
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Vasya_33

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April 6 2023 21: 55

maybe in response to this:

https://topcor.ru/33837-nemeckaja-pressa-s-rossiej-teper-mozhno-delat-vse-chto-ugodno-ona-ne-otvetit.html

in the sense, a signal here.
Human_79

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April 6 2023 22: 41

Shoigu loves showing off.
Here's how to start applying them and showing it. Then we will evaluate
1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich
  
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  April 7 2023 02: 13
  
  You can’t please a human, then there’s not a damn thing, then suddenly it turns out to be there, but this is window dressing ...
  1. Saffron
    
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    April 7 2023 10: 35
    
    If you don't show it, it's bad; if you show it, it's window dressing. He is from the category: 1) Dagger - cartoons. 2) Dagger - piece and only for parades. 3) Well, where are your daggers? Why don’t every opornik ukrov shoot them? And from the bunker after the dagger, NATO little heads are still being raked out
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Alex D

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April 7 2023 10: 04

It is necessary to fight for the west of Ukraine and in Europe, but as long as this is not the case, do not expect anything good.
Valera75

+7

April 7 2023 10: 54

Quote: Saffron
If you don't show it, it's bad; if you show it, it's window dressing. He is from the category: 1) Dagger - cartoons. 2) Dagger - piece and only for parades. 3) Well, where are your daggers? Why don’t every opornik ukrov shoot them? And from the bunker after the dagger, NATO little heads are still being raked out

And where did they show at least once where the NATO firebrands are pulled from? Otherwise, everyone says, but no one has ever seen it anywhere. Or is it secret information or fear of NATO? If not fear and really hit the bunker, then why not show it? % such patriotism in the country would have been raised, but no one has ever seen this anywhere.
1. Nike
  
  -4
  
  April 7 2023 11: 51
  
  They showed that you overslept.
  1. Valera75
    
    +2
    
    April 7 2023 18: 02
    
    Quote: nike
    They showed that you overslept.
    
    Well, show the all-seeing eye where this miracle was shown, well, at least one link?
    If such a video was not a fake, it existed in nature, only the laziest who does not even have a rotary phone would not post it.
2. Dingo
  
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  April 7 2023 13: 18
  
  but no one has ever seen it anywhere.
  
  Konashenkov said - Is it not enough for you? True, with his tongue he defeated the entire "NATU" ... and more than once ... Poor Nata ...
vlad127490

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April 7 2023 13: 25

Just an advertisement for the layman. They did this in WWII. High-precision planners look different. The sky over Ukraine is closed. Aviation cannot fly, and how can these bombs be dropped on a target?
1. wladimirjankov
  
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  April 7 2023 14: 32
  
  Aviation cannot fly, and how can these bombs be dropped on a target?
  
  Read the article again and take a closer look.
  1. vlad127490
    
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    April 7 2023 19: 40
    
    Thanks for the offer. Where are the results of the bombing of the RF Armed Forces shown? I have a character, believe the facts, if you have, give a source. You yourself understand that with bombs of 1,5 tons it is possible to arrange an earthquake in Avdiyivka.
Mikhail Dadeko

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April 7 2023 16: 16

Beautiful, brand new!
Sergei N

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April 8 2023 02: 40

The appearance of a large number of brand new unguided free-falling FAB-1500s may indicate that the UMPC has been adapted to this ammunition.

It is possible that they adapted. Back in the early 2000s, the GNPP "BASALT" proposed to the RF Ministry of Defense to equip all our unguided free-fall bombs with planning and correction modules. Moreover, four variants of such modules were developed. Starting from the simplest kit, with a minimum amount of electronics, to a more advanced one with a pulsating jet engine. For a long time, we could have been armed with an analogue of the American JDAM kit, JDAM-L and JDAM-ER.

Only in this case, "then screwing the wings on," does the serial production of these bombs make sense.

Agree. Without UMPC, until the enemy's air defense is completely suppressed, there is no point in these bombs.
sgr291158

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April 9 2023 10: 24

And that means that they will soon be blasted with these bombs.
assault 2019

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April 9 2023 16: 11

Quote: krot
It is immediately clear that the author is not familiar with aerodynamics! The shape of these bombs does not in any way favor flights with "wings". Well, quite funny "experts"
And yet, why paint and bring the product to its final form, if then again they are going to "sculpt" something to it ..?

To improve aerodynamics, a "pointy" plastic tip is easily put on the "blunt nose" and the problem will be solved.
Painting bombs is a standard procedure that protects the product from rust and corrosion, and by the way improves aerodynamics due to the smoother surface of the bomb after priming and painting. The coloring does not interfere with the installation of the "wings" in any way, since all the equipment of the kit is mounted on clamps and ties there.
Nikolai N

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April 11 2023 11: 49

The mood in the comments, "Everything is lost", either the crests ran in, or the domestic liberals. Guys, Victory is for Russia. Dot.