Gerasimov was appointed commander of the Joint Group of Forces of the Northern Military District

January 11 2023 55

On January 11, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu reshuffled the leadership of the Special Military Operation in Ukraine.

Thus, Army General Valery Gerasimov, Chief of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, has been appointed Commander of the Joint Group of Forces. General of the Army Sergei Surovikin, Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces General of the Army Oleg Salyukov and Deputy Chief of the General Staff Colonel-General Alexei Kim became his deputies.

As noted in the Ministry of Defense, the change in the level of leadership of the SVO is associated with the expansion of the scale of the tasks ahead.

Raising the level of management of the Special Military Operation is associated with the expansion of the scale of tasks solved in the course of its implementation, the need to organize closer interaction between the branches and branches of the Armed Forces, as well as improving the quality of all types of support and the effectiveness of command and control of groupings of troops (forces)

- according to a press release from the Ministry of Defense.

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Maxim Rv

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11 January 2023 18: 45

Does anyone understand???
1. Just a cat
  
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  11 January 2023 18: 46
  
  After graduating from the Academy of the General Staff, everything will be absolutely clear. the rest go to cook borscht.
2. Nelton
  
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  11 January 2023 18: 54
  
  Quote: Maxim Rv
  Does anyone understand???
  
  hmm, Surovikin stabilized the front, achieved the first victory in a long time ...
  At the top, they thought about whether they need a successful, popular military general ...
  1. Just a cat
    
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    11 January 2023 19: 06
    
    But what about Hersonsleel? need a new reason for provocation?
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4. DO
  
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  11 January 2023 19: 36
  
  Quote from Maxim Rv
  Does anyone understand???
  
  Maxim Rv, the most obvious version - Surovikin compromised himself with a public initiative to surrender Kherson, and was replaced as commander of the NWO.
  Given the high position of Gerasimov, most likely the appointment of the commander of the NMD is in many respects his personal desire.
  How the "general's landing" from Moscow will manifest itself will be seen in the coming months.
  1. Vladimir Tuzakov
    
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    11 January 2023 19: 51
    
    The rescue of Gerasimov's NGSh under the cover of S. Surovikin looks more clear. If you remove Gerasimov’s NGSh (which is clearly necessary based on the results of the SVO), many parquet-pleaser generals will fall down, and S. Shoigu will become inappropriate (clearly inappropriate in all respects), which is what the bureaucratic and feeble vertical of the RF Ministry of Defense has been afraid of for decades. NWO also works as a cleansing of Russia from parasites and opportunism.
  2. Saffron
    
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    12 January 2023 08: 49
    
    Surovikin came when everything was already bad in Kherson. It's like a crisis manager - the cause of the enterprise's crisis is not in him, but in those who did business before him ...
  3. ariel
    
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    12 January 2023 22: 11
    
    Isn't General Gerasimov a parquet?
5. kapitan92
  
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  11 January 2023 20: 01
  
  Quote: Maxim Rv
  Does anyone understand???
  
  This system does not need independent and competent people!!!
6. rotkiv04
  
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  12 January 2023 08: 45
  
  Quote: Maxim Rv
  Does anyone understand???
  
  Surovikin acted as a kinder surprise (Kiriyenko), left Kherson, this was the end of his role
7. Alexbf109
  
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  12 January 2023 10: 07
  
  Let's hope it's very easy!
  Against the backdrop of the start of deliveries of tanks to Bandera, we are ready to use nuclear weapons.
  There is no time for false "humanism". Or them or us!
svit55

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11 January 2023 19: 22

Armageddon is over. The results are not known. Now Gerasim will drown mu-mu? And who is this mu-mu, no matter how their own ...
Teacher

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11 January 2023 19: 36

Everything is fine. This is an increase in rates almost to the maximum. And Surovikin turned out to be not Armageddon at all. Didn't impress anyone. As for the first victories (Soledar), this is the merit of Prigogine.
Maxim Rv

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11 January 2023 19: 36

Quote from Nelton.
hmm, Surovikin stabilized the front, achieved the first victory in a long time ...

Well, why do personnel changes if everything is not so bad???
1. Just a cat
  
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  11 January 2023 19: 38
  
  According to a military expert, captain of the XNUMXst rank of the reserve Sergei Gorbachev, these appointments were necessary in order to exclude political influence on the course of the SVO:
  
  “This indicates a number of factors that are now included to really change the situation and the nature of the conduct of hostilities. I think that a course has been taken to minimize political influence on the course of hostilities. Prior to this, according to the expert community, a lot depended not on the military, but on those people who, one way or another, were interested in implementing a number of political scenarios. Now, judging by what is happening, the powers have been given to the military so that no one can influence what is happening from the outside.”
  
  Political scientist Sergei Markov has a similar opinion:
  
  “Apparently, this was done to reduce bureaucratic procedures. The fact is that Surovikin actually remained as the chief of the SVO, but in order for all his questions on this group to be resolved more quickly, the chief of the General Staff was made his immediate superior. In order for all the necessary requests of the head of the NWO to go more directly into work. Now the Ministry and the General Staff will be directly brought into the leadership of the NWO, and therefore this bureaucratic path for decision-making is being reduced.”
  
  And military expert Vladislav Shurygin notes this in his blog - now, in his opinion, absolutely the entire military vertical will be directed to the needs of the NMD:
  
  “In my opinion, this is an attempt to move away from the current practice of duplicating command, when General Surovikin formally commands the grouping of troops participating in the NMD, but at the same time the Chief of the General Staff also uses the same power in relation to the troops, which can lead to confusion and even tension between officials. Now their places and duties in the vertical of command and control are clearly fixed.
  
  But the main thing is that the status of the Commander of the Special Military Operation is thereby sharply raised. From now on, without any coordination and approval, all the Types and structures of the Armed Forces, from strategic aviation and the GRU, to the forces of the fleet and military acceptance, are subordinate to him. Such a concentration of forces and means within the framework of the NWO is unprecedented.”
  
  https://www.politnavigator.net/vojjna-po-nastoyashhemu-komandovat-svo-naznachen-nachalnik-genshtaba-vs-rf.html
  1. ariel
    
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    12 January 2023 22: 16
    
    I don’t see a single wise guy who is able to read the thoughts of the Chief on the original - "why all this?"
hlp5118

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11 January 2023 19: 36

Shoigu decided to finally ruin everything. Unsinkable brother...
Andrey Andreev_2

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11 January 2023 19: 39

Surovikin did not command strategists, fleet, space ..., being the commander of the NWO. Its status has not been downgraded, it's just that the National Guard is able to control all the RF Armed Forces during the operation. Now I won’t be surprised by anything: neither the use of tactical nuclear weapons, nor the use of strategic nuclear forces, nor new mobilization, etc.
1. molybdenum
  
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  11 January 2023 22: 12
  
  Andrey, maybe everything is much simpler - at the headquarters they felt the approach of victory and decided to cling to it more tightly? Again, look how the Defense Ministry was offended by Prigozhin when he stated that Soledar was taken exclusively by the forces of his fighters. :-)
  1. Sergei Fonov
    
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    12 January 2023 00: 08
    
    To win, we need generals who are believed in the troops, and the troops themselves are needed in a different quantity, modern equipment is needed, did you hear the conversation between the president and Manturov? Kartopolov also spoke about problems with the reserve, Gurulev that there is not enough weapons, who, how, and what the troops were preparing for is not clear, therefore the responsible persons of the Ministry of Defense headed the SVO. The hope that the West would stop the war because of declining living standards and interruptions in production due to high energy prices did not materialize.
    1. molybdenum
      
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      12 January 2023 00: 44
      
      Where to get such generals, Sergey, and how to get rid of those that already exist? Taking into account the possible turning point, all these “beautiful” high-ranking military men will definitely try to stay in their places so that they don’t miss the victorious order fall. I even saw Manturov’s conversation with Putin (or vice versa), and believe me, if it were only some kind of Manturov’s signature, it would have stood for a long time, but Manturov, no matter how you treat him, did not put Putin in a stupid position, laying out an endless list of problems that need to be solved, including the same plant directors who are still sitting without contracts. Putin, as the report showed, was in a good mood, but I assure you that he became very sad when he immersed himself in the details.
      Kartapolov, to whom you refer, is not an authority for me personally, since he does not distinguish a steam locomotive from a steamboat. Let me remind you that it was he who helped to put Russia in cancer, so that it would be more convenient to shove a Malaysian Boeing into it. He was a goon general, now the deputy is the same. But you don't have to agree with me, because we have a democracy. :-)
      1. Sergei Fonov
        
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        12 January 2023 18: 18
        
        Stanislav, there is no other way to appoint those who are capable, and remove those who cannot cope. Read how the plant directors acted in Grabin's memoirs, his guns fought for a year, despite the fact that the military acceptance had not yet officially adopted them. I think if the president voiced the problem with contracts throughout the country and gave the go-ahead, that is how his words should be understood, you need to include aircraft, tanks, and guns in the production plan, or the president’s word means nothing to Manturov, money for defense countries must be. Whatever kind of general Kartapolov is, he is more immersed in the topic than you and I, such statements are not thrown into the press just like that by the head of the defense committee, I can say the same about Gorulev. This is not my value judgments, these are facts published in the media.
        
        molybdenum
        
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        13 January 2023 01: 04
        
        Who argues, Sergey, but desire and life are two very different hypostases. Did someone give Manturov special powers? No. And if there are no special powers, including supra-legal ones, then one can not hope for a quick result. As an example, the actions of the same Prigozhin, who completely illegally attracts convicts to the ranks of his PMC. But Prigozhin himself beat out these illegal preferences for his structure, and I can well imagine what arguments, including fucking your mother, he cited for power. But Prigozhin is a businessman, and Manturov is an official. And Manturov has an order of magnitude more chances to go to prison for violating laws, in the name of fulfilling the will of the president. No one abolished or canceled the laws, since this is an NWO, not a war. Is Putin himself trying to comply with the laws? Yes. Russia was besieged from all sides, and he fulfills all contracts. Similarly, for the same reason, Putin will soon be caught on the bait called "negotiations". Believe me, the Kremlin is no longer thinking about any denazification and demilitarization, but is thinking how to crawl out of all this crap with minimal costs. As soon as the opposite side hints at negotiations, Moscow will immediately agree to this. Putin won’t say, believe me, “well, no guys, I won’t get to Lvov yet, don’t even stutter,” because then he will contradict himself, and everyone will point out this fact to him, accusing him of deceit and lies. And he does not want to look like a fool, so he will go to negotiations at the first opportunity.
        Regarding Kartapolov, whether he is aware or not, he remains a fool. It is strange that you have a different opinion on this matter.
        
        Sergei Fonov
        
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        13 January 2023 17: 18
        
        Stanislav, the president signs the budget and has the right to change it, in addition, the budget also provides for extra-budgetary spending, and there are funds for this. Prigozhin acts on the basis of a permit, or a by-law, I don’t know, but no one would allow him to give prisoners to PMCs just like that, without having permission to do so. Putin fulfills contracts, I think this is beneficial for the country, otherwise, given that the West has imposed illegal sanctions that are contrary to the WTO, many contracts could be revised. Regarding the denazification and Lviv, as Kartopolov says, we do not have a mobilization reserve to resist the collective West, that is, without nuclear weapons we are not able to defeat NATO with conventional small arms.
        
        molybdenum
        
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        13 January 2023 22: 29
        
        Sergey, I still urge you to be a realist - even with Russia's nuclear weapons, NATO cannot be defeated. Nuclear weapons are not even the last argument, this is the final, the universal end, maybe not in the literal and total sense, but in the fact that those who survive will continue to live in the natural Stone Age, with a minimum set of joys - plenty to eat and keep warm. You need to act in a completely different way and not such a boobie as Kartapolov talk about this, this is not his level (mental development). The fact that nuclear weapons exist should be quietly and very subtly reminded to everyone how it was done today, for example. Putin, giving an interview on the airfield, reminisced about the local ski resort, and behind him, as a background, was his Tu-214, moreover, in the Doomsday modification. Neither he nor Zarubin say a word about the plane. :-)
        In Russia, the strongest law is the telephone law. I'm surprised you don't know about it. Prigozhin, while conducting recruitment by zones and promising a pardon, is acting on the basis of such a “document”. These are not even secret orders for you to assign Heroes of Russia. In Russia, there are only three official and legal grounds for the removal of a criminal record, and CBO is not included in this triad. And to me personally, in parallel, how this lawlessness is implemented - the result is, and it is hoo what. But there is less than a step from Prigozhin to his ordinary fighter, and everything is decided instantly, and between Manturov and the plant director there is infinity, no matter which way you look. If Manturov proves himself, and the director messes up, then it is Manturov who will be imprisoned, since he, as a higher authority, did not finish it (and further with an endless list). We need special powers, but they don’t exist, and what Putin created a few months ago doesn’t even come close to any special governing body.
        The execution of contracts fits very well into Putin's formulation of "our foreign partners." No one has ever supplied any resources to the real enemy with whom the war is being waged, therefore the SVO, and therefore the crap is so endless.
        
        Sergei Fonov
        
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        14 January 2023 15: 24
        
        Stanislav, many, including myself, are writing guided by the remnants of the country's former greatness, to be a realist, I think that the NWO will end with some kind of treaty and compromise on the part of Russia, in the end Medvedev gave part of the sea to Norway without a war, but instead, it seemed would be punished, became a deputy in the Security Council, but here the SVO and the stakes are higher than ever. The army is not ready, although if we take Chuev and his 140 conversations with Molotov, then Molotov said back in 1970 that we would not have a quiet life. Looking at what they strengthened in the army, you understand that your well-being is probably greater. 20 thousand volunteers from 300 thousand is about 7%, but personally I can only watch. The current situation is a reality, one can only hope that the decision will be worthy, and then again prepare for the next battle. The goal of the West is to destroy Russia, we need to set a goal for ourselves, let's start with less to deal with Europe, there are solutions, we need political will. I think that there will be no such will and everything will remain as before.
        
        molybdenum
        
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        15 January 2023 01: 54
        
        I am glad that we have come to a common denominator: life is an endless run in a circle initiated by the same endless hope. :-(
ivan2022

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11 January 2023 19: 55

The losers are brought closer to the authorities. Because they are manageable. And the one who won something is not controllable. Who needs it?

In the 17th century, Prince Pozharsky, who saved Russia, did not become Tsar.
The king was the one who was not taken seriously.
sat2004

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11 January 2023 20: 28

Everything is according to plan, remember Nabiullina.
Maxim Rv

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11 January 2023 20: 47

Quote: DO
How the "general's landing" from Moscow will manifest itself will be seen in the coming months.

I don’t want to think about the bad, but the premonition is not good ...
Oleg V.

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11 January 2023 21: 46

Well, why????
molybdenum

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11 January 2023 22: 04

Not even a year has passed since the military authorities were able to understand that the existing model of interaction between troops does not work. Now the same bosses, who created this non-working model and then evaluated its effectiveness for almost a year, will create a new model of interaction. Oh, I feel they will give birth to some army masterpiece, "neither a mouse, nor a frog, but an unknown little animal." Well, let's wait. :-)
vlad127490

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11 January 2023 22: 50

Is there something going on at the top? The forecast for Ukraine is bad, NATO has raised the level of war to pre-nuclear. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are not ready to fight NATO in a non-nuclear war, and no one hides the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are the armed forces of NATO. In the Russian Federation, the enemy is inside in power and an external enemy, this has never happened in the history of Russia.
1. ivan2022
  
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  12 January 2023 05: 40
  
  Quote: vlad127490
  Is something happening at the top? ..... In the Russian Federation, the enemy is in power inside and the external enemy, this has never happened in the history of Russia.
  
  There is nothing new under the sun. This was in the Time of Troubles. And it's not like that....
  There were thieves and Poles and even a Pole on the Russian throne. .... who was just not there ....
  Teach materiel.
2. syndicalist
  
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  12 January 2023 09: 01
  
  Quote: vlad127490
  The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are not ready to fight NATO in a non-nuclear war, and no one hides the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are the armed forces of NATO.
  
  Why then started, if you are not ready. Or the current result was not obvious a year ago?
Sergey Latyshev

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11 January 2023 23: 24

Surovikin's PR ascension has just subsided, and on you...
Another promise did not play, it's time for another explanation: how did it happen ....

We will see. What else is left...
Moscow

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11 January 2023 23: 25

The level of responsibility has finally returned to the NSSh, which somehow was in the shadow of the SVO and did not publicly speak out for society and did not make bad and difficult decisions. Now the historical responsibility for the SVO is assigned personally to Gerasimov, the period of his being in charge of the deputies is over. How will Russia remember Gerasimov?
1. Kuramori Reika
  
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  12 January 2023 20: 19
  
  What will he remember? It was he who developed the plan on February 24, he will be remembered as an idiot who could not see things obvious to everyone for many years.
  1. Sergei Fonov
    
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    12 January 2023 22: 15
    
    One person does not develop such plans, he could approve, but in any case, there should still be many signatures.
In passing

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11 January 2023 23: 47

Conversations in the ranks! No way, Russia went to war? Indeed, it is time to plan operations using a wide range of forces. Tired of the drag.
Jacques sekavar

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11 January 2023 23: 51

The expansion of the scale of the NWO and the solution of tasks portends some serious changes in the war, and whoever, if not the chief of the main staff, developed them, he has the cards in his hands
1. Vladimir Tuzakov
  
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  12 January 2023 00: 25
  
  Chief of Staff Gerasimov failed the SVO very concretely and painfully for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the world perception of the power of Russia .. After this, only resignation, because the shame and losses are indescribable. S. Shoigu and Gerasimov are not ashamed of their failures, because meanness and hypocrisy in the Moscow Region from Serdyukovism has not been eliminated and is flourishing. So an example of a speech. I. Konashenkov, completely false and more than once his lies were refuted. scoundrels and liars are not punished ....
  1. ivan2022
    
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    12 January 2023 05: 44
    
    Quote: Vladimir Tuzakov
    Chief of Staff Gerasimov failed the NMD very concretely and painfully for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the world perception of the power of Russia .. After this, only resignation, because the shame and losses are indescribable ..
    
    Gerasimov was never Supreme. And he couldn't fail. As grandfather Krylov said - “You didn’t notice the elephant” .... Which in 20 years failed in general.
voznesensky

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12 January 2023 01: 13

Briefly, without going into details, the procedure for preparing decisions and their execution during the Second World War was as follows. The Supreme Commander-in-Chief (I. Stalin) set (successfully or not - this is another question) a task for the General Staff, which developed an operation plan, and the front commanders, under the supervision of representatives of the Supreme Headquarters, carried it out. In essence, such a system of management and leadership was based on the authority and unquestioning obedience of everyone and everything to the Supreme Commander. It was bad or good - again, not the question of today's topic. So it was, and that's it. Today, our Supreme Commander does not have such ambitions, just as he does not have the competences corresponding to the moment, which, as I assume, is also clear to him. And this is also a fact that does not require any explanation and evaluation. But on the other hand, he demanded a different command and control structure, not just in some limited-in time and space NVO, but command and control in a large-scale modern war ... But for this we, for obvious reasons, were completely unprepared. And the regular restructuring of the management of military operations that took place on the move serves as another confirmation of this. As I see it, the main task that was set for Surovikin was to concentrate the leadership of the NWO operation in one hand, stabilize the situation and restore order among the troops. He dealt with her. The main task of the General Staff and General Staff Officer V. Gerasimov personally (which, as I understand it, he has already largely solved) is to plan and carefully prepare the upcoming general offensive in the direction of the main attack. Given the current state of affairs with the unstable structure of command and control of large-scale military operations, the undertaken reorganization in the command of troops looks quite logical. Emphasis is shifting in the combat operations of our troops. And good!
Goga Smirnovich

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12 January 2023 01: 29

Well, this is yours! In Ukraine, they give a standing ovation and throw up caps!
Saffron

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12 January 2023 08: 51

Operations are commanded by individuals (SVO - Surovikin), now a group of individuals led by the chief of staff. We are moving towards understanding and calling everything by its proper name, that this is not just an operation?
syndicalist

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12 January 2023 08: 53

This is a clear personnel crisis. There are no Rokossovskys, not even swans. Instead of real combat generals, we appoint staff officers and cooks.
Hiker

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12 January 2023 09: 33

Personnel leapfrog suggests that there will be NO OFFENSIVE.
DeadPahom

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12 January 2023 10: 30

According to the Gerasimov Doctrine, 80% of the efforts in modern warfare do not consist in direct combat operations. The war is going on primarily on the economic, cultural, ideological and other fronts. Active combat operations are envisaged at the initial stage (deployment) and more active at the final stage. Apparently, SVO goes to a logical outcome. The appointment of Gerasimov hints at this.
Dust

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12 January 2023 10: 56

Valery Gerasimov is considered a great theoretician! He wrote entire volumes of books on the topic of various theories. But, all his merits were received in peacetime. I am interested in another where and when his theories of the introduction of hostilities in Ukraine were applied.
DeadPahom

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12 January 2023 11: 40

Quote: Dust
I am interested in another where and when his theories of the introduction of hostilities in Ukraine were applied.

Successful military operation in Syria.
Kuramori Reika

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12 January 2023 20: 14

The gang of thieves of the Ministry of Defense was excited by the successes of the military general Surovikin, so they decided to quickly pocket his merits. This headquarters smells bad.
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Smirnoff

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12 January 2023 21: 55

Raising the level of leadership of the Special Military Operation is associated with the expansion of the scale of tasks solved in the course of its implementation.

The expansion of the scale is connected with the US plans to enter Ukraine with NATO troops. Carrying out tasks in the course of the NWO in Ukraine is triumphantly solved by Surovikin.
We are waiting for the solution of tasks by Russia related to the planned NATO military aggression with entry into Ukraine.
Therefore, a higher level of leadership is needed now.
Russia is proactive.
Salyukov has already begun and is solving problems.
During a working trip to Belarus, the Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces and Deputy Gerasimov not only listened to reports, but also personally talked with the fighters, checking the quality of training of personnel.
Deputy Surovikin is in charge of the SVO, and Gerasimov is in charge of a higher scale, taking into account the aggressive plans of the United States. We need coordination and unity in leadership.
Russia has already played ahead of the curve on February 24 last year and confused all the plans of the United States!
Now the leadership of Russia is again working ahead of the curve and is taking measures to resolutely rebuff the American NATO!

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu previously appointed Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov commander of the Joint Group of Forces. Oleg Salyukov became his deputy. Also, Sergey Surovikin and Alexei Kim became deputies of the new commander.
1. Kuramori Reika
  
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  12 January 2023 22: 14
  
  It's time to return to reality and stop deifying and thinking up the plans of a handful of senile people who have lived in a big way for so long that they have not been able to think sensibly for many years.
Sam Rimer

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13 January 2023 03: 01

Quote: Maxim Rv
Does anyone understand???

Appointed extreme. And all the dogs will be hanged on him. And they will stay clean.