Armed Forces of Ukraine warned of exorbitant losses in case of an attempt to force the Dnieper


Russia's withdrawal from part of the Kherson region is both humiliating and not surprising at the same time. With its decision to withdraw troops from the Right Bank, Moscow may even prepare a trap for Kyiv. Tim Lister, an analyst at the American television company CNN, warned Ukraine about this on November 10 in his report.


The plan includes relinquishing the thousands of square kilometers (including some of the best agricultural land) that the Russian Federation has taken control of since the early days of the NWO and that were officially declared its territory just five weeks ago.

- notes the author.

He drew attention to the fact that the Russian generals held a public event the day before, at which they submitted the conclusion of the RF Armed Forces from the best side. At the same time, Kyiv announced that they would not rush forward for the time being, fearing a counterattack, and this, in the author's opinion, is correct.

If and when the Russians retreat to the east bank, their supply lines will become easier and they will re-establish defenses in depth. Any attempt by Ukrainian forces to cross the Dnieper will cost them prohibitively large losses. The Russian Federation will retain control over 60% of the Kherson region, including the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov. As long as Moscow's troops control and fortify the eastern bank of the Dnieper, it will be difficult for Ukrainian troops to damage or destroy the canal that supplies fresh water to Crimea.

- added the author.

Lister did not rule out that the mentioned meeting of high-ranking Russian military men in Moscow on November 9 was conceived to lure the Armed Forces of Ukraine into a trap and the RF Armed Forces are not going to completely leave the western bank of the Dnieper. However, the operational environment for the Russian troops, squeezed in a narrowing bridgehead, has turned from difficult to almost impossible in a few weeks, he concluded.
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  1. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
    aslanxnumx (Aslan) 10 November 2022 22: 21
    +5
    What is not the possibility of defense. How they supplied the Malaya Land. Leningrad stood in the blockade for how long.
    1. passing by Offline passing by
      passing by (passing by) 11 November 2022 05: 27
      -3
      Only in Leningrad the population was against fascism, and in Kherson half were for Saloreich ...
      1. syndicalist Online syndicalist
        syndicalist (Dimon) 11 November 2022 07: 20
        0
        Very optimistic estimates
      2. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
        aslanxnumx (Aslan) 11 November 2022 09: 36
        0
        So why join it was.
        1. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
          Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 11 November 2022 13: 45
          -2
          Because of the canal and land route.
    2. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 11 November 2022 09: 56
      -1
      Leningrad was in blockade for how long.

      And how many people died during the blockade, do you remember? 900 people. Putin's brother then died.
      Then there was a real WAR. With general mobilization, huge victims. And the Anglo-Saxons to us then since 1942. helped.
      1. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
        aslanxnumx (Aslan) 11 November 2022 18: 11
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        And why defend the Motherland, many people will die there. Maybe they will immediately surrender
      2. i232323b Offline i232323b
        i232323b (Igor) 11 November 2022 19: 52
        -1
        The first English tanks were already in the autumn of 1941
    3. Semyon Sukhov Offline Semyon Sukhov
      Semyon Sukhov (Semyon Sukhov) 11 November 2022 17: 08
      -2
      In the V.O. War, the Fritz did not have a total spy satellite system, Heimers and ex-caliburs .... There were no drones capable of throwing a grenade into a soldier’s trench ... And in such a situation, they put as many people as needed ... Today, no one is ready to die because of the fornication that is happening in the MO system ... So you have to take unpopular, but correct measures ...
      1. Igor Offline Igor
        Igor (Vladimirovich) 12 November 2022 12: 39
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        so it will be possible to justify the capture of Moscow. Perhaps the right measures (why were they pulling it all the way then?) From a military point of view, but definitely very failed. What will outweigh more, time will tell later.
  2. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 10 November 2022 22: 45
    +1
    Come on, scare it. Stalingrad was defended .. And if the leaders don’t drift off and don’t bend for a small amount of money. then we will sign at the Reichstag
    1. Retired from the digital age (Retired digital age) 12 November 2022 14: 27
      0
      Get your ass off the couch first, writer!
      1. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 12 November 2022 15: 01
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        Yes, I tried several times. The military registration and enlistment office did not understand. Age. Here, from retirement, I unfasten as much ..
  3. Kofesan Online Kofesan
    Kofesan (Valery) 10 November 2022 22: 56
    +7
    Of course, there will be other attempts to find a grain of common sense and a grain of truth in a huge pile of shit dumped by the "Kremlin golden elite" near Kherson (and not only). But these are grains and grains. Counted on the fingers of one hand. And they will also procrastinate them for a very long time, in different poses, until they lose their orientation.

    They are mistaken in one thing: those who made a judgment about the mediocrity and venality of these very elites from the gestures of goodwill-regroupings will not return back with an opinion. Well, they didn't care at all. And this is also clear.
  4. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 10 November 2022 23: 14
    +5
    in military academies, it is now possible to introduce a new discipline of leaving territories in order to preserve the life and health of military personnel, but I thought that the war had somewhat different tasks, but the Kremlin strategist had everything mixed up in his head and politics and war, he would first decide for himself that he wants something sick, otherwise it was denazification and demilitarization, but in the end he surrenders his Russian territories
    1. Igor Viktorovich Berdin 11 November 2022 00: 46
      -4
      Kutuzov once surrendered Moscow. Saved the army and then won the war. So it's not evening yet. Winter is coming soon. Let's see what will be left of the Ukrainian economy by spring if it has fallen by 39% since the beginning of the year ... By the way, despite the fact that Russia, under sanctions, its economy has fallen by only 3%. So time does not work for Ukraine.
      1. Mobius Offline Mobius
        Mobius 11 November 2022 07: 10
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        Quote: Igor Viktorovich Berdin
        Kutuzov once surrendered Moscow. Saved the army and then won the war.

        That's how it is ... They started talking about preserving the army.

        In your opinion, what - Another conditional "Borodino", and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, kirdyk?
        1. Fourth Offline Fourth
          Fourth (Fourth) 11 November 2022 13: 00
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          This is in your opinion, but in our opinion Kutuzov is a smart man.
      2. Kofesan Online Kofesan
        Kofesan (Valery) 11 November 2022 08: 12
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        Quote: Igor Viktorovich Berdin
        Kutuzov once surrendered Moscow. Saved the army and then won the war.

        Everything! We do not have Kutuzov and Bagration. The king, and with him tsarism, ended. For failure.

        Instead of them, Dugin, just yesterday, proposes a commissariat and an ideology. It's in return. Quite urgent, until they reached Moscow. This is worth discussing.

        I also think that it is not necessary to wait for the surrender of Moscow. Some "Poles" have already settled there.
      3. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
        aslanxnumx (Aslan) 11 November 2022 12: 29
        +2
        You are probably from the moon. Prices have increased by how many percent. And the Russian economy produces.
      4. sap Offline sap
        sap (Alex) 11 November 2022 17: 12
        0
        Whose eye then to dig out Surovikina?
      5. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
        aslanxnumx (Aslan) 11 November 2022 18: 13
        +1
        Winter is coming, the Volga is here, and the Don will freeze. You can run, or you can slide.
    2. passing by Offline passing by
      passing by (passing by) 11 November 2022 05: 32
      0
      so that's why the "correct" Ukrainians Timoshenko is a great commander. he also destroyed about a million Soviet soldiers surrounded.
    3. syndicalist Online syndicalist
      syndicalist (Dimon) 11 November 2022 07: 24
      -1
      No change in goals or plans. In February, "the Ukrainian people were liberated" and now we are freeing them from our presence. So everything is according to the original plan. Well done Putin!
    4. Fourth Offline Fourth
      Fourth (Fourth) 11 November 2022 13: 02
      -2
      ... and what about your tasks, to scold strategists?
    5. Semyon Sukhov Offline Semyon Sukhov
      Semyon Sukhov (Semyon Sukhov) 11 November 2022 17: 09
      0
      It is immediately clear that you are writing from a trench, not from a sofa!
  5. Bakht Online Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 10 November 2022 23: 44
    +3
    Armed Forces of Ukraine warned of exorbitant losses in case of an attempt to force the Dnieper

    A month ago, I wrote that if the Armed Forces of Ukraine put down 100 thousand people and take Kherson, then this is their undoubted victory. They say they lost about 10-12 thousand people.
    Believe me, if you need to put 100 thousand people and go to the Crimea, then this is an acceptable price for Kyiv. And in general, if you look at the map, then in order to reach the Crimea and capture Berdyansk and Mariupol, they absolutely do not need to force the Dnieper.

    After the capture of the Kherson bridgehead, up to 6 brigades will be released from the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Where will they be in a week?
    1. passing by Offline passing by
      passing by (passing by) 11 November 2022 05: 38
      +1
      and if you destroy a couple more power plants, where will all the language-speaking livestock be in a week? at best in a bed with pneumonia ...
    2. syndicalist Online syndicalist
      syndicalist (Dimon) 11 November 2022 07: 32
      0
      I believe that near Simferopol. Now no one will try to "keep the fragile peace." Thanks to Western aid, the Ukrainian army is getting stronger every day. And each of its successes stimulates Putin's "partners" to increase assistance.
    3. Danila Ivanov Offline Danila Ivanov
      Danila Ivanov (Danila Ivanov) 11 November 2022 08: 25
      -1
      How will they free up 6 brigades? Or do you think they will not leave a garrison in the city? I personally think that they will simply turn Kherson into a fortress
      1. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 11 November 2022 09: 31
        -1
        They simply will not have the task of advancing on the section of the Dnieper below the Kakhovka reservoir. A line of defense is being set up along the Dnieper, which will be impossible to take without huge casualties, and with a calm soul they will send several brigades to attack the Crimea in Zaporozhye. There is no Dnieper. And 100 killed Zelensky will not be stopped. And the Dnieper below the reservoir is very wide. It will be impossible for us to force it. And they are not going to.
        From the Dnieper near Kakhovka to the beginning of the territory of Crimea - about 65 km. They will shoot. Points hit up to 120 km. From Kherson to Skadovsk - 64 km, from Novaya Kakhovka to Armyansk - 79 km, from Novaya Kakhovka to Krasnoperekopsk - 99 km.
        Look in Yandex maps, there is a ruler there, very convenient.
        And the garrison in Kherson is a couple of hundred people. For carrying out garrison service, this is more than enough.
        1. Danila Ivanov Offline Danila Ivanov
          Danila Ivanov (Danila Ivanov) 11 November 2022 13: 18
          0
          So if there are 200 people of the garrison, we will easily beat them back, right?
      2. i232323b Offline i232323b
        i232323b (Igor) 11 November 2022 19: 54
        -2
        What fortress? Ukrainian flags have been in the center of Kherson since lunch.
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  8. Vpk72 Offline Vpk72
    Vpk72 (Valentin) 11 November 2022 05: 23
    +2
    From the first days it was clear that without a change in the military leadership, the Russian Federation would not succeed.
    1. i232323b Offline i232323b
      i232323b (Igor) 11 November 2022 19: 56
      -1
      And the most important military leader is the commander in chief. Everything is correct. We must change. good
  9. Danila Ivanov Offline Danila Ivanov
    Danila Ivanov (Danila Ivanov) 11 November 2022 08: 24
    0
    Logically. But then again, why storm the left bank? They dig in and that's it. But in any case, we will have to recapture Kherson again, and there our troops may already have some problems
  10. Sasha_4 Offline Sasha_4
    Sasha_4 (Sasha the Invisible) 11 November 2022 11: 07
    0
    Do you remember how it all started? Everything was in the first and again. Fresh legend, but hard to believe. Wait and see.
  11. depavel Offline depavel
    depavel (Pavel Pavlovich) 11 November 2022 12: 30
    +2
    Why did they explain at the military commissar about the numerical superiority of the advancing 3: 1? You see theater conductors, Putin, Shoigu, and you remember Yeltsin with the orchestra. That one was drunk, but will these guys oversleep?
  12. Alik Honey Offline Alik Honey
    Alik Honey (Alik Honey) 11 November 2022 16: 17
    +1
    Y-yes, the Americans are completely freaks holding saloedov. But even the fat-eaters understand that it is stupid to climb across the Dnieper, they are empty and do not take losses into account. But the fact that the flight of the Russian Federation from Kherson frees a large group of Nazi troops is unequivocal. And that means that our fighting soldiers and those mobilized will have a very difficult time in other directions, and Mother Russia will wash herself with considerable blood for this betrayal.
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 12 November 2022 23: 13
      0
      Alik, are you not a traitor if you write such things? Although ... if you are dill, then let's water it, it's useless!
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  15. Vadim Sharygin Offline Vadim Sharygin
    Vadim Sharygin (Citizen) 14 November 2022 17: 32
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    It is not so much the departure of our troops across the Dnieper that is depressing, but the general unintelligible state of the NMD: the current goals and objectives, prospects, both military and political, are incomprehensible and indistinct: either we liberate all of Ukraine, or we fight for the liberation of Donbass, then we accept it as part of the Russian Federation new regions, including Kherson, Zaporozhye, after that, we leave a significant part of the already Russian territory to the enemy without a fight and resistance and defiantly pretend that nothing happened. A forced and natural question arises in these circumstances: is anyone, in principle, managing the situation from Russia, and where does this "management" lead?

    However, if we assume that the military-political leadership of the country, following the results of nine months of a special operation, came to the conclusion, for example, that the geopolitical goals of denazification and demilitarization of present-day Ukraine can and should be achieved not by foot columns of troops on the battlefields, but by missile strikes on the administrative and industrial infrastructure, then in this case two things should be expected in the near future: the activation of our troops in the Donetsk direction in order to reach safe areas, incl. rocket and artillery attacks on the borders, the withdrawal of troops to the border of the Crimean borders and the use of tactical nuclear weapons in the event of a Ukrainian attempt to seize Crimea.

    This strategy has its pros and cons. The advantages are that Russia is turning from a country of an "advancing aggressor" into a country "defending itself from the nationalist Ukrainian aggressor" when the use of tactical nuclear weapons will, one way or another, be a defensive step, more motivated and justified than, say, in the current conditions . Together with the continued reduction of the Ukrainian industrial potential to the beginning of feudalism, this strategy will make the West think three times whether it needs such a murdered, defeated, infected country, which, apart from millions of impudent rabid people, cannot offer anything else to the world and Europe.

    Thousands of low-cost drones, Iranian missiles, could destroy the entire potential of Ukraine for an inexpensive and effective price, leaving its already significantly nutty President Zelya in the position of a lame duck or in the position of a landfill manager. At the same time, Russia could hone the coherence of the new mobilization units, build up reserves of "zircons", "calibers" and "Sarmatians" for an amateur. Not the worst option could be if "Belgorod" went "around the corner" and fixed at least one thermonuclear Poseidon on the ocean floor for the States and one more for the sworn partner - Great Britain.

    The downside of this strategy is the need to evacuate tens of thousands of people who do not want to remain under the yoke of the nationalist "zelocracy", but in general, it is no longer a secret: infantry and tank wagons on the battlefields exhaust, bleed both attackers and defenders, and if we talk about Ukraine, then the real figure of the army, which could, guaranteed and quickly, seize all the key positions of the Ukrainians is a million people. But is it worth mobilizing, training and losing this combat million of our best fighters, is the current Ukraine worth our sacrifices? They themselves have chosen a green fate for themselves, let them live this fate, and we can help develop this fate on the ruins and the growing hostility of the West to Ukraine as such.