19FortyFive: The Pentagon believes in vain that the Russian PAK DA bomber will "never take off"

PAK DA is an attempt by the Russian Air Force to create a new long-range strategic bomber with stealth capabilities. According to Russian official media statements, the PAK DA “will be armed with hypersonic missiles,” and its “experimental” version will be ready as early as next year, 2023. The other day there were reports of progress with the development of new engines for the PAK DA and that "the test results showed that the engine meets the design parameters."

A senior US Department of Defense official told 1945 (19FortyFive) that Russia's planned new PAK DA stealth bomber "will never fly." Another Pentagon official echoed the sentiment, saying that Moscow likely would not have “the resources, the technology base, the experience and, of course, the money needed to build something like a stealth bomber in the foreseeable future.”

Unwilling to go into details for fear of revealing the sources and methods of intelligence gathering, US Department of Defense officials clearly have serious doubts about the PAK DA. The bomber "looks really good in the artist pictures I see on defense sites on the internet, but this plane will stay where it was: on the drawing board," one official said emphatically.

writes in 19FortyFive Garry Kazianis, head of the Rogue States Project, a bipartisan national security think tank who has previously held senior positions in other influential think tanks, including the CNI, the Heritage Foundation, the Potomac Foundation.

With such a track record, it was not difficult for Kazianis to refute the aplomb of Pentagon officials (prudently leaving them anonymous) by presenting expert opinions. In all cases, experts noted that the Russian PAK DA will undoubtedly become a reality, although there are many doubts regarding the timing of the project, the final characteristics of the aircraft and the likelihood of its serial production.

Dr. Robert Farley of the University of Kentucky:

I will say that the Russian aviation industry is currently facing some critical issues: the need to compensate for losses incurred in Ukraine, as well as the availability of advanced components that can no longer be imported from abroad. In the foreseeable future, PAK DA may not become one of the procurement priorities for equipping Russian aviation.

Dr. Adam Lowther, Director of Programs at the US Strategic Command University Research Center:

The question is not whether the PAK DA will fly. He will fly. The main question is what will be inside this aircraft. That is, can it be 20, 50, 80 or 100 percent equal to American stealth aircraft.

John Venable, Heritage Foundation Fellow:

The Russians were the first to send a man into space and were the first to develop and launch a supersonic passenger liner (Tu-144). The origins of the American Technology stealth was also based on the concepts and mathematical equations of a brilliant Russian physicist. The height of self-confidence is now to believe that the Tupolev Design Bureau is not capable of developing a modern stealth bomber, not to mention the fact that it allegedly "never takes off." The only question is when and how successful this program will be when it goes beyond the prototype.
  • Used photographs: Film Company Officers of the Russian Air Force and Navy
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  1. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 3 November 2022 13: 02
    Well, maybe it will take off, in a single copy. We have both the SU-57 and the Armata shown at the parade. So if I were the Pentagon, I wouldn't relax too much.
    1. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
      Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 3 November 2022 14: 44
      They are clearly not stressed. Definitely not about the pack. Except for nuclear missiles ..
      But who knows, more of them are left than the "armat" or less ...?
    2. Sergey3939 Offline Sergey3939
      Sergey3939 (Sergei) 3 November 2022 20: 23
      What, so there was only one Su 57 and one Armata? (((
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  2. Joker62 Offline Joker62
    Joker62 (Ivan) 3 November 2022 14: 24
    Quote: steel maker
    Well, maybe it will take off, in a single copy. We have both the SU-57 and the Armata shown at the parade. So if I were the Pentagon, I wouldn't relax too much.

    You Stalevar, forever chewing snot, everything is gone, Chef !!!
    1. Luenkov Offline Luenkov
      Luenkov (Arkady) 8 November 2022 20: 57
      ... The gypsum is removed, the brain is taken out! ...
  3. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 3 November 2022 14: 44
    And when the GDP publicly announced the testing of the Sarmat Dagger where was this Kozleanis
    1. clidon Offline clidon
      clidon (Alex) 4 November 2022 17: 27
      Right where it is now. Somewhere in Moscow.
  4. zloybond Offline zloybond
    zloybond (steppenwolf) 3 November 2022 15: 59
    When such cries occur, it means a lack of information. Those. now they are waiting - who is the first and where he will boast that he knows something more than others.
  5. zuuukoo Online zuuukoo
    zuuukoo (Sergei) 3 November 2022 15: 59
    Let's just say that work on the future Su-57 began in the late USSR. By 2022, the plane is essentially not ready.
    At least there are still no engines.
    Perhaps there is something else that is missing that we are not told about. For example, weapons systems or electronics (fortunately, the state of this industry in Russia is no secret to anyone).

    According to pakda, there are only drawings. So, probably, there are still 10-20 years before the first flight. And even after the first flight, there will be a question - a relatively ready-made complex of systems and weapons has taken off, or just an empty plastic case with engines screwed on with electrical tape.
  6. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
    Vox_Populi (vox populi) 3 November 2022 18: 01
    The prospects for any significant mass production of the PAK DA are extremely vague ...
    1. Sergey3939 Offline Sergey3939
      Sergey3939 (Sergei) 3 November 2022 20: 25
      The fog is in your head!
      1. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
        Vox_Populi (vox populi) 4 November 2022 11: 52
        Turbopatriots can keep dreaming and dreaming! winked
  7. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 3 November 2022 19: 01
    Referring to 1945 bloggers is like referring to Odnoklassniki. Nearly.
  8. Leonn Offline Leonn
    Leonn (J) 4 November 2022 15: 45
    PAK DA is an attempt by the Russian Air Force
  9. zloybond Offline zloybond
    zloybond (steppenwolf) 5 November 2022 18: 05
    We are watching the second decade of the launch of a new corn maker ... The topic has already killed tons of popcorn .....
  10. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 7 November 2022 15: 15
    The answer is unequivocal, the PAK DA concept has outlived its era and is no longer needed. Confirmation of this, the production of new Tu-160s, the money is huge, there is clearly not enough for PAK DA. The decision is correct, because the heavenly "dreadnoughts" are no longer relevant today for many reasons. That is why the United States supports the B-52, B-1 and B-2, no new ones are heard, except for provocative stuffing ...
  11. Watching Offline Watching
    Watching (Alex) 7 November 2022 17: 12
    Quote from: zuuukoo
    with motors screwed on with electrical tape.

    Where did you see such a solution? If yes, please share. If not, why bother?
  12. Rust1981 Offline Rust1981
    Rust1981 (R) 14 November 2022 18: 23
    Well, as if Buran also took off. Once. And that's it!

    History does not teach anything, but only punishes for ignorance of the lessons.