19FortyFive: No-fly zone in Ukraine is a 'really stupid idea'

President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky again called on NATO to introduce a no-fly zone over Ukraine, knowing that such a thing is not feasible. First of all, because it would literally require US and NATO combat aircraft to engage in a direct military clash with Russia.

Although the idea of ​​a no-fly zone was discussed by Western officials in the early stages of the conflict, it was generally recognized as a failure.

- writes in the online publication "1945" (19FortyFive) military observer Peter Suciu.

He also recalls that no-fly zones were rarely used in the past. They have only been deployed three times in history: over parts of Iraq after the 1991 Gulf War, in Bosnia in 1992, and in Libya in 2011. It is important to note that in all these situations, the US and NATO enjoyed overwhelming air superiority. in order to forcefully impose their decision on the local "authoritarian rulers".

In 2015, in Syria, on the contrary, it was decided not to introduce anything of the kind. The reason was not hidden: US warplanes in this case could become not only the target of Syrian air defense systems, but also (most importantly) collide with Russian aircraft.

The effectiveness of no-fly zones is also questionable. To some extent, this worked against Iraq and prevented the warring parties from using Bosnian airspace, although it did nothing to stop purely ground military operations. In Libya, according to Suciu, this was already a serious problem, since it spread over a large territory, and NATO aircraft faced a threat from man-portable anti-aircraft systems.

Ukraine is much larger in area to patrol, and NATO pilots will be vulnerable to attacks not only from Russian ground forces and aircraft in Ukraine, but also from S-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile systems from Russian territory

- explains the observer of "1945" and concludes: the decision to introduce a no-fly zone can easily draw NATO into a war with Russia, even if this is what the leaders of Ukraine most of all want.
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  1. prior Offline prior
    prior (Vlad) 15 October 2022 09: 29
    A no-fly zone over Ukraine for NATO and Ukrainian aircraft is a good idea in general .....
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  3. zuuukoo Offline zuuukoo
    zuuukoo (Sergei) 15 October 2022 11: 07
    Does anyone remember that over the past 4-5 months, the VKS flew to at least some significant depth from the front?
    Yes, and at the front itself, everything is exclusively at ultra-low altitudes + "cabration" (I still don’t know how to lift an airplane or helicopter to "cabrate" - put a cassette with nurses in the back of a pickup truck - it will turn out the same, but many times cheaper and with this is more accurate).

    The bottom line is that the actual no-fly zone over Ukraine was introduced quite a long time ago.
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  4. Sergey_2 Offline Sergey_2
    Sergey_2 (Za Mir) 16 October 2022 15: 17
    NATO pilots are far from suicidal, they are well aware of all cases of downing their planes by crests. For them, they are natives with MANPADS who shoot at everything that flies.