Why is Russia “tempting” Europe with the repair of Nord Stream pipes

October 3 2022 37

The terrorist attack on both branches of the Nord Stream pipeline caused enormous damage to the pipeline, but did not completely destroy the infrastructure. Whoever carried out this egregious attack made sure that the damage was intractable. But an unexpected proposal came from the Russian leadership to repair the pipelines, of course, at their own expense. This was officially announced by Deputy Prime Minister of Russia Alexander Novak.

Yes, it takes time and many resources, including financial ones. But I think appropriate opportunities will be found

Novak said.

In the West, at this time, there are counterproductive calls and accusations of Russia for what happened, as well as false calls to “investigate sabotage” (Russophobes deliberately picked up an ambiguous word). However, against the backdrop of the upcoming gas crisis next spring, and it is predetermined by all the prevailing circumstances without exception, Moscow's proposal is very businesslike, pragmatic and promising. It is based on well-known facts.

First, despite the bombastic statements, everyone in Europe almost knows for certain who is behind the terrorist attacks on the Baltic pipelines. The purpose of such barbarism is, of course, also known: Europe should not even have thought about allowing supplies through “flows” (when the crisis peaked, the probability of this would increase to 100%), which was “guaranteed” by undermining both lines.

Thus, secondly, assuming the awareness of the first point and offering to take over the overhead costs, which is doubly beneficial for Europe, the Russian government offers the EU a deal, giving a clear signal for the formation of an anti-American position in Europe, which - the time has come - must decide, act whether on the side of international terrorists from the United States, who endangered the entire continent for the sake of their own interests, or act wisely, choosing their own interests.

In this sense, gas cooperation, with which Russia "seduces" Europe, serves as a veiled way to invite to negotiations and reformatting the "coalition axis". Moreover, in return, it is proposed to provide the most important raw materials for returning to Europe that standard of living and business activity that has become familiar over the years.

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aslanxnumx

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3 October 2022 08: 48

Money is the main thing for our management
1. Alex Nevs
  
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  3 October 2022 09: 08
  
  I think money is a front. The main task is to lure the client with a capital letter to his side.
  1. Vladimir Tuzakov
    
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    3 October 2022 15: 39
    
    It's more of a game to accuse the United States of undermining gas pipelines. After all, the Russian Federation agrees to quickly restore the gas pipeline at its own expense, so why undermine it at all. The United States used all the propaganda to accuse the Russian Federation of undermining gas pipelines. The world already believes in the guilt of sabotage on a number of accusations of all the sins of the "evil Kremlin".
    1. Vox_Populi
      
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      3 October 2022 19: 56
      
      Everything is not so clear! Even the US Secretary of Defense recently said that it is premature to accuse anyone of sabotage and that everything must first be investigated comprehensively ...
      1. Vladimir Tuzakov
        
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        3 October 2022 20: 21
        
        Replica. He cannot assert anything, he is cautious, because facts of US involvement may come up, then he will be reminded of lies ...
Colonel Kudasov

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3 October 2022 08: 58

Why is GDP supplying Russia's sworn enemies with strategic raw materials? It's as if Stalin supplied gasoline to Hitler during the Second World War. It's impossible to imagine
1. GIS
  
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  3 October 2022 09: 18
  
  Well, here is an article about the "carrot", with the help of which GDP is trying to establish peaceful coexistence on our continent .: a bad peace is better than a good war. or are you against it?
  1. Bakht
    
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    3 October 2022 09: 35
    
    Sometimes war is better than peace.
    8 years was a bad peace with Ukraine. Now the war. Unfortunately not very good.
    1. GIS
      
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      3 October 2022 11: 29
      
      and if there is a "good" war, then everything will go over to a military footing. You probably don't need to explain further. you yourself understand how it will be. therefore, there is no war yet, and thank God. and the Faberge will freeze the Germans a little, a well-fed life will remain only in books and screenshots from the Internet, and then they, for their part, may come to the point that they need to be friends and not fight. in the meantime, they all think to "bite off a piece" from Russia, after its defeat by NATO under the control of Britain and the United States. I think when they understand that this is not an option, then they will come to "be friends" (live in peace)
alexey alexeyev_2

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3 October 2022 09: 31

When these Gazprom bastards get drunk ..
1. GIS
  
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  3 October 2022 11: 53
  
  xs ... appetite comes with eating ... but still does not choke. I can’t imagine what else you can do with this money: glue the toilet, make mountains and dive into them. for me, it’s possible to use them for the development of at least something new in the country.
  serial production of air vehicles, for example, or the electrification of all vehicles throughout the country. even if not preferential, but affordable. all the same, they won’t be able to take this money THERE with them, and so maybe at least a positive memory of them will remain ...
Bakht

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3 October 2022 09: 34

The gas pipeline cannot be repaired.
Of course, I am not a specialist in laying and repairing gas pipelines, but no one has repealed the laws of physics.

The gas pipeline worked on the principle of a nipple "blowing there, back ...". And if part of the gas pipeline from the Russian coast to the place of the rupture can still be filled with air, then the section from the rupture to the German coast cannot be filled with anything. There is already a lot of sea water. Salty, by the way. Who will give certification for pipes that will be exposed to sea water for six months (at least)?

Second. What is this, another rake? Europe and Russia will never agree. Production facilities and specialists are already moving to the States. Not to Russia, but to the States. There, by the way, the price of gas is about $200. And WTI has always been cheaper than BRENT.
What remains in Europe may well be made up of spot LNG supplies. And only pensioners, the unemployed and ... migrants will remain in Europe. There are millions of them out there. And the States will recruit unskilled labor in Mexico and South America. They are mentally closer to them than the Arabs.

Only the States and, possibly, Great Britain will live well. No wonder the Britons jumped off this derailed train. Russia, of course, will survive, but it will not be possible to achieve the former standard of living soon. At hand will be devastated Europe and the remnants of Ukraine. As soon as the States achieve their goal (the ruin of Europe), they will no longer need Ukraine.

Russia is now vital to quickly end the war with Ukraine. It's faster. Despite any sacrifices and losses. This is a matter of Russian survival. There should be no negotiations. And there shouldn't be any resources for Europe either. About Europe and Ukraine, one can only say "she died, she died like that." It is necessary to bury them quickly so that these corpses do not decompose.
1. boriz
  
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  3 October 2022 10: 48
  
  Europe and Russia will never agree. Production facilities and specialists are already moving to the States. Not to Russia, but to the States.
  
  Only the States and, possibly, Great Britain will live well.
  
  Both messages are wrong. From the Czechs (and not only) it is clear that there are forces that are ready to negotiate with Russia. And above all (no matter how strange it may seem) in the Baltic States. The coming cold weather will intensify these trends.
  In terms of energy resources + water + qualified and adequate labor force, Russia will always be more preferable than the United States. Millions of skilled workers are needed to relocate production. At least the educated ones. The level of education in Russia is still higher than in the United States. Plus such a simple thing as the metric system. In the "most advanced" country in the world, the inch system is still used. It is possible to organize assembly production there, but the full cycle is problematic. Manufacturing has been eradicated in the United States, so there is not and is not expected to be a skilled workforce in the required quantity.
  In addition, we do not live in a socialist economy, but in capitalism. Companies from Germany will not be welcomed in the US in the best way. competition, however.
  It is the United States and the World Bank that will fail in the economy in the near future. And WB will fail earlier. Just last week, the WB pension system was laid down. There, a decision was made on unlimited emission, which is very bad in the current situation. In the very short term, this will allow the stock exchanges and the economy not to collapse right here and now, but will not save them from a collapse in the near future and will only exacerbate the consequences. In the US, the emergency measures taken (such as the runaway consumption of oil reserves) made it possible to contain inflation before the elections and slightly reduce gasoline / diesel prices. Immediately after the elections, these measures will stop, and inflation will shoot up.
  Moreover, a number of key banks are on the verge of bankruptcy. Especially Credit Suisse and Deutsche Bank. Many banks in the US are also far from the prosperity portrayed by massive derivatives trading. With the collapse of the stock exchanges, they will remain naked and barefoot, like Lehman Brothers in their time, and bring down the whole situation.
  In general, the impending winter will quickly clear the minds of German entrepreneurs and they will make the only right decision.
  1. Dingo
    
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    3 October 2022 21: 21
    
    God forbid... But we should not forget that the "German entrepreneurs" are far from Russian "nouveau oligarchs". They do not have such influence on their politicians, and even more so, the government.
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2. GIS
  
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  3 October 2022 12: 07
  
  Quote: Bakht
  As soon as the States achieve their goal (the ruin of Europe), they will no longer need Ukraine.
  
  well, that's unlikely. they don’t need Russia in its current form, so they will use Ukraine to the last
viktor goblin

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3 October 2022 09: 56

The fish rots from the head

Yes, she has long rotted along with Novak!
prior

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3 October 2022 10: 53

It is necessary to drive all these Novakovs.
Russia in the ass is precisely their fault.
If the pipe was built by the Europeans, let them be responsible for it.
Their pipe, their turbines, their problems with transit, and ours is only gas.
You need gas - come to the supplier and buy (for rubles).
Jarilo

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3 October 2022 11: 44

And what prevents them from blowing up gas pipelines again. And at whose expense this banquet. From December 1, by the way, they planned to increase tariffs by 10% for housing and communal services.
PS And do not deny yourself anything.
1. GIS
  
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  3 October 2022 13: 26
  
  annual and planned increase, only shifted to the right
  
  The Ministry of Economic Development of Russia informed about this on its official website1. Usually utility tariffs are indexed once a year from July 1. So, for 2022, an increase in fees for these services on average by constituent entities was approved by Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation dated October 30, 2021 No. 3073-r. As a result, since July 1, 2022, utility tariffs have increased by 2,9-6,5%, depending on the region.
  
  As a result of the amendments, utility bills will be increased for the second time this year. At the same time, the Ministry of Economic Development of Russia promises that then indexation will not be carried out for a year and a half (the next one should take place only on July 1, 2024).
  
  https://www.garant.ru/news/1567930/
  I'm more depressed by the question: WHAT GOOD GOOD ONE DOES THEY RAISE AT ALL ???
  i.e. what are these expenses for (we had a summer increase of 5,4%, as indicated on the official website of the government of the republic). And if they do not depend on imports. (to everyone who objects, then the proposal is one, let them switch to import-substituting schemes. For example, the USSR), or if the increase is tied to inflation, then again I don’t understand: let’s say they (housing and other org-ii- let’s call it “housing and communal services”) took care about their employees and indexed their salaries, but again, for the total amount of costs and profits of the entire "housing and communal services", this increase is in no way equal to% inflation, but much lower.
  if we consider the increase in materials (as they write to us for the replacement of pipes, cables, equipment), then the same question is, do you change them for new ones every year ???? across all networks?
  Here are the questions I have so far
zzdimk

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3 October 2022 15: 54

Simple analytics at the level of kitchen conversations (who remembers them?!) says that our strategists could not do anything worse than now, but after that it would be even worse! Why?
For 50 years now, the United States has been spudding corrupt freaks in Europe and Russia, and these are two generations of scum that wants "like them", but does not understand what it is. Analytical thinking is absent. There are only wishes. The only option was to hit backhand, but the blow came out blurry, but the clucks do their job: we begin to be ashamed of what we have done. Isn't that what the excrement-community of morality wanted on the other side? Exactly this.
I am offended that any muck from there breaks the perception of Our world. It is necessary to break the freaks, and not go on a short leash with them, do not appoint the guilty, do not play by their rules, but play by your own, without introducing them to these rules.
I was not born to submit to mutants, but the USSR provided education.
1. Sasha Veter
  
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  3 October 2022 21: 42
  
  we become ashamed of what we have done.
  
  We have lost the understanding of what is the meaning of what is happening, and why our leadership allowed a departure from the originally declared, worthy and morally correct goals of the NWO.
  It turned the current process into a circus, the questions about the meaning of which, even the most radical patriot, will not be able to give himself internal answers.
  Of course, if we discard the possibility that we are being specifically misled, kept as a herd, manipulated by the naive Vanka, using the theme of patriotism. And there is no need to look for any answers, for the benefit of the state.
  
  You can give another analogy: a man wanted to dance hard to a lady, and the arrows, after hot and rough preludes, on the floor of the sixth. Then yes, we can say that we are beginning to be ashamed.
South North

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3 October 2022 18: 49

to make a hose with holes for drip irrigation from US pipes
Art Pilot

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3 October 2022 20: 31

Let Germany repair the pipes. And let her protect too.
ChopChop

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3 October 2022 20: 32

They write nonsense. All objects are insured. First there will be an investigation by the insurance companies. If the case is recognized as insured, then there will be payments to the owners or operators of pipelines. If they do not recognize, then all funding for the restoration falls on the shareholders. We do not know the terms of insurance and will never know. And no one will tempt anyone to repair. Everything rests on profitability and expediency.
1. Jacques sekavar
  
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  3 October 2022 20: 55
  
  They stole 300 billion gold reserves, imposed sanctions on foreign exchange transactions, including insurance payments, and the voice of shareholders is not heard in the hysterical cacophony of "democrats"
Jacques sekavar

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3 October 2022 20: 50

And what to do, cut production and fire oil workers? From the contribution to the formation of the state budget is about 30%, and the EU is the main trading partner and consumer of raw materials, including gas, oil, electricity.
The Nord Stream was blown up, Poland blocked it, Ukraine, and the capacity of the only remaining Turkish Stream cannot replace them with all the will. Therefore, the northern one will have to be repaired, unless, of course, NATO allows it.
dub0vitsky

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3 October 2022 21: 29

Russia MUST confront Western hyenas And such a "proposal" is a tool of confrontation. It has already been said that Russia will not be allowed to study the attack. This is good. This is an indirect admission of NATO's guilt. Refusal to repair is the second trump card in our hands. Proof of that. that they "did not want" to have cheap gas. Well, eat with pebbles what you have.
dub0vitsky

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3 October 2022 21: 33

Quote: prior
It is necessary to drive all these Novakovs.
Russia in the ass is precisely their fault.
If the pipe was built by the Europeans, let them be responsible for it.
Their pipe, their turbines, their problems with transit, and ours is only gas.
You need gas - come to the supplier and buy (for rubles).

So they financed the pipe. Our share is about a third. Let them repair, CHEAP GAS IS NECESSARY FOR THEM, NOT FOR US. But we simply have to push to the side. Our proposals are a kick in the ass.
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1. viktor goblin
  
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  4 October 2022 08: 33
  
  Is it normal to supply resources to such "partners"? And everyone knows how to swear .. Take off the \pink\ glasses from the face.
topor314

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3 October 2022 22: 46

Quote: boriz
Europe and Russia will never agree. Production facilities and specialists are already moving to the States. Not to Russia, but to the States.

Only the States and, possibly, Great Britain will live well.

Both messages are wrong. From the Czechs (and not only) it is clear that there are forces that are ready to negotiate with Russia. And above all (no matter how strange it may seem) in the Baltic States. The coming cold weather will intensify these trends.
In terms of energy resources + water + qualified and adequate labor force, Russia will always be more preferable than the United States. Millions of skilled workers are needed to relocate production. At least the educated ones. The level of education in Russia is still higher than in the United States. Plus such a simple thing as the metric system. In the "most advanced" country in the world, the inch system is still used. It is possible to organize assembly production there, but the full cycle is problematic. Manufacturing has been eradicated in the United States, so there is not and is not expected to be a skilled workforce in the required quantity.

Well, you screwed it up. From my own experience, foundries and machine-building plants with the production of equipment in the metric system (pipes, gas turbines, etc.) have no problems at all and have not had it for a long time, and nothing needs to be organized. If suddenly they don’t make it in America, they will order it from Canada. The labor force until recently was more than required. After Covid, this is no longer the case.

As for the schools... if we talk about high schools, that's right. If you look at college graduates, then there is no difference, at least in normal specialties. Specialists in the study of gender and various minorities cannot yet be compared :)
BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine

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3 October 2022 22: 50

why do it? cut into pipes and lay gas to Kaliningrad!
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Alex D

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4 October 2022 00: 21

The Germans themselves blew up the pipe, because. they are in NATO, and the military leadership is always ahead of the civilian ones;)

If this is not understood in the leadership of Russia, then everything is very sad. In general, it was stupid to start building SP-2 without good relations with the West. The Germans will now return to the coal. business then ;)
Alex D

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4 October 2022 00: 25

Quote: BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine
why do it? cut into pipes and lay gas to Kaliningrad!

This is patriotism. And laying gas to the Germans is stupidity.
viktor goblin

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4 October 2022 00: 39

Miracle - I.V. STALIN raised the Country without Millers and other products\rubber-latex\. And now ? Well, you're right to be humiliated. Where is the spine? I can suggest, but I don't like it. They got everyone - no BE - no ME .... To hell with such a Russian world. As in the SA - no one will stand up for the Russians ..
DVF

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4 October 2022 07: 26

The European Union must be destroyed, period. The earlier the better. The entire management of the European Union is entirely American puppets. And on the wreckage to create a large Eurasian Economic Union from Lisbon to Beijing.
lord-palladore-11045

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4 October 2022 08: 09

Dear, why should Russia restore its flows at its own expense? And for this diversion it is necessary to receive compensation for the damage - 177 million tons of gas was pumped into the pipe. cubic meters of gas, each of which now costs $2. We need to find the culprit and demand compensation for the damage!
DO

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4 October 2022 23: 06

The West will favorably approve another drowning of Russian money, and will accept Russian gas into its storage facilities.
But the absurd accusations that Russia itself blew up its own gas pipeline will not be removed. And they wanted to spit on logic and common sense. The strong one is always right, and the killer's mocking accusations that the victim shot himself twice in the head are doubly pleasant for them.
Moreover, the "partners" are guaranteed to blow up the restored gas pipeline again.