Voenkor proposed conditions under which Moscow should accept the surrender of Kyiv


Russia continues the successful implementation of the Ukrainian special operation, which sooner or later must end with the capitulation of the Kyiv regime. War correspondent and publicist Aleksey Zhivov proposed a number of conditions for the surrender of the Ukronazi authorities.


According to Zhivov, Kyiv must fulfill the following conditions of Moscow:

1. The Russian Federation includes Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev and Odessa regions. Odessa can get the status of a free port - that is, a free port that enjoys the right to duty-free trade and is not part of the customs territory of the state.

2. All areas lost by Ukraine are ceded to Russia.

3. Refusal of Ukraine from membership in any military and economic unions. federalization of the country.

4. Actual demilitarization: disarmament and disbandment of the armed forces. Enterprises of the military-industrial complex are coming under Russian jurisdiction.

5. Public tribunal over politicians-Russophobes who called for reprisals against the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine, and war criminals. Criminal prosecution for Russophobia.

6. Political freedoms: permission for the activities of opposition parties and movements, removal of restrictions on the expression of will.

7. Denazification: prohibition of symbols and ideology associated with Nazism, as well as right-wing ideological movements affiliated with the views of Bandera and Shukhevych.

8. Free distribution of the Russian and Ukrainian languages ​​in all regions of the country where the bilingual population lives. Possibility of teaching in Russian, opening of cultural centers of Russian culture. Learning the Russian language and history, spreading Russian widely, including its use in films, street names, etc.

9. Monetary compensation to all those who died in the special operation, as well as to all forcibly mobilized Ukrainian citizens or members of their families.
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  1. Mobius Offline Mobius
    Mobius 26 September 2022 16: 22
    +1
    2. All areas lost by Ukraine are ceded to Russia.

    Ha-ha....
    And can those areas that Russia does not control be considered "lost" by Ukraine, and in
    in which a referendum was not held ???

    "Slippery Theme" yes ..., from the point of view of "international law" that the Supreme likes to flaunt so much ...

    Were the gentlemen from the Kremlin in a hurry, late for 8 years, without holding a referendum, on pieces of territories that do not belong to the Russian Federation, are not controlled by the RF Armed Forces?
    1. Piramidon Offline Piramidon
      Piramidon (Stepan) 27 September 2022 14: 12
      0
      Quote: Möbius
      Were the gentlemen from the Kremlin in a hurry

      What does the Kremlin have to do with it? Did you read the entire article? If you offer something, will you also become the Kremlin?

      War correspondent and publicist Aleksey Zhivov proposed a number of conditions for the surrender of the Ukronazi authorities.
  2. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 26 September 2022 16: 28
    0
    Monetary compensation to all those killed in the special operation, as well as to all forcibly mobilized Ukrainian citizens or members of their families.

    And who will issue compensation?
    1. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
      soloist2424 (Oleg) 27 September 2022 15: 02
      0
      Loser.
  3. Watching Offline Watching
    Watching (Alex) 26 September 2022 16: 38
    +4
    Fantasy. It will not happen. "Ukraine" does not control its own destiny, and the Anglo-Saxons do not need such a Ukraine, neutral and without an army. They need a war before the victory over the Russian Federation, the second such opportunity will not be presented. And in general, a sovereign government should have an Armed Forces. So all these are empty dreams - about the acceptance of ultimatums by the West. In the confrontation with the Anglo-Saxon world order, the point of no return has already been reached, there will be no agreements.
    1. Carmela Offline Carmela
      Carmela (Carmela) 26 September 2022 18: 40
      +1
      Quote: Watching
      Fantasy. It will not happen.

      Of course, fantasies. So the ultimatum of Zelensky, who offered Russia capitulation on Zelensky's terms, is also a fantasy. Troll the enemy, so troll. It is strange that the author did not mention indemnities, reparations, return of debts and something else of the same kind.
      1. YuriK Offline YuriK
        YuriK (Yuri) 26 September 2022 21: 29
        0
        Fantasies are not fantasies, and this is the only (with some adjustments) option. Difficult to implement, but there is no other option, and no one will like those that are (see my comment below).
    2. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
      soloist2424 (Oleg) 27 September 2022 15: 00
      +1
      That's right, but, as far as I understand, the author proposes to consider an abstract (who knows, in the future it may become real) situation - America and Europe cannot continue the confrontation, and Ukraine throws out a white flag in blood and snot.
  4. Valentine Offline Valentine
    Valentine (Valentin) 26 September 2022 16: 46
    +3
    All of the above conditions are a direct verdict of the current government and the defeat of its patrons, which no one will agree to, and frostbitten Ukronazis rule the ball in Nenko, and that says it all, and the war will last until the last Ukrainian or Russian.
  5. Igor Viktorovich Berdin 26 September 2022 16: 48
    +5
    Well, if you don’t want to, then the following conditions will be even worse. Why the Sumy and Chernihiv regions should be left to Ukraine ... and further along the map.
    1. Roman Praseizen Offline Roman Praseizen
      Roman Praseizen (Roman Praseizen) 28 September 2022 12: 01
      -1
      Today, the Russian army is not advancing, it is defending itself. There is nothing to step on. So far, the Russian Federation is only losing those territories that it tried to capture.
      The war will continue for 10 years. Unfortunately, it will lead to the collapse of the Russian Federation.
      1. Igor Viktorovich Berdin 28 September 2022 13: 37
        +1
        Are you serious? Have you heard enough of Ukrainian ZOMBIE media? In a month, the Russian army will be about the same, if not more, than the Ukrainian army. Despite the fact that the shaft of weapons and not all of them have been used yet. In extreme cases, there are nuclear weapons for Lvov and other Bandera regions. If he presses. But you will see, it will not press. Frost will start in a month. So let's look at the enthusiasm of Ukrainians. There is no hot water. There is no light. There is no heating. All the bread was taken out. The housing and communal services are unbearable ... But in Melitopol and in the liberated New Russia, everything will be done and the shaft will work.
  6. Roy Offline Roy
    Roy (Yuri) 26 September 2022 16: 54
    +2
    Completely working version. And here the point is that the vanquished is not asked what suits him and what does not suit him in terms of surrender. When one of the warring countries suffers a complete collapse, then it can accept any conditions in the hope of leaving at least something. But to do this, you must first win a convincing military victory.
  7. Nelton Offline Nelton
    Nelton (Oleg) 26 September 2022 17: 13
    -2
    The facts:
    1 Western weapons continue to arrive in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, more and more serious.
    2 APU has been occupying territories and n / a for the last weeks.
    3 RF announces mobilization.

    it follows from paragraph 3 that the inability to advance without reservists is recognized at the highest level.
    reservists can theoretically release strike units from guarding the rear and calm sections of the front line, but oh, it’s not a fact that in reality this will not only result in large losses for those reservists.

    draw conclusions against this background.

    Russia continues the successful implementation of the Ukrainian special operation

    strange to say the least.
  8. Mobius Offline Mobius
    Mobius 26 September 2022 18: 00
    +5
    Quote: Bulanov
    who will issue compensation?

    In the LDNR, compensation for injuries of 3 ₽ during the SVO, and for those who died - 000 ₽, are paid from the budget of the Russian Federation ...
  9. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 26 September 2022 18: 38
    +6
    War correspondent and publicist Aleksey Zhivov voiced the desires of the "elite" of the Russian Federation and Ukraine, only this goes against the peoples of Russia and Ukraine.
    There is only one decision on Ukraine in favor of the people of Russia. The state of Ukraine must cease to exist. The entire territory of Ukraine should return to Russia, in the form of regions and republics. There is no need to ask permission from anyone, everything must be done unilaterally. There is no state of Ukraine, no debts, no government of Ukraine in exile, no legal Bandera, no Ukrainian participants in various international organizations, no hostile state on the border of the Russian Federation. Russia will increase its economic and military-political influence on the EU, there will be direct access to the EU countries. The northwestern part of the Black Sea will belong to Russia.
    If the state of Ukraine is left, then today and in the future, Russia will always have a headache. Ukraine will definitely join NATO, the enemy will be on Russia's doorstep. Everything that is promised and will be spelled out in the Constitution of Ukraine, in its documents, Ukraine will change, in the way that is beneficial to the United States and its satellites.
    Author, your proposal can be described as a betrayal of the Russian people.
  10. goncharov.62 Offline goncharov.62
    goncharov.62 (Andrei) 26 September 2022 19: 14
    +3
    This is called freezing the conflict and living in anticipation of a new massacre. This time, definitely deadly and the last! Smart suggestion... How much did they charge for stuffing?
  11. YuriK Offline YuriK
    YuriK (Yuri) 26 September 2022 21: 10
    +1
    Dreaming is not harmful, although much of what the author proposes can materialize. It is only important to understand that there is no other way for us now - neither the occupation of the entire territory of Ukraine with the subsequent restoration of what was destroyed at our own expense, nor peace on compromise terms, not to mention the freezing of the conflict, is not an option for us. Only unconditional surrender. Another question is how to achieve it and whether our leadership has the political will to do so. Well, do we have the strength? In any case, we must stop deceiving ourselves: there is a war going on in Ukraine - the NVO was designed for a blitzkrieg and failed after the withdrawal of our troops from near Kyiv and from the north of Ukraine. And if so, then we need to completely change the concept and not look back at the West - we still won’t wash ourselves off. We lost the information war (a special hello to the Konoshenkos and Co.), and we couldn't win - the forces are too unequal. But if the authorities continue to play up, lie, do things that cause bewilderment among the people (one exchange of prisoners is worth something!), If this mess with supplies continues (armored vehicles, thermal imagers, drones at the expense of caring people, and not at the expense of the state - what a shame!), if celebrations and parades are held when our boys die in the trenches, and statements are made that we have not lost anything after February 24, nothing good will shine for us. The queues at the borders of Georgia and Armenia will only grow. The mobilization of the population is needed - alas, now there is no getting away from it, but first of all, the mobilization of power is needed.

    PS. And a specific proposal: all the military commissars and employees of the military registration and enlistment offices who have neglected their duties, go to the front. There can be no doubt that, at least in the matter of mobilization, full order will instantly reign.
    1. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
      Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 26 September 2022 23: 44
      -1
      It doesn't even occur to "patriots" like you to rescue their own from captivity - you see, the exchange is not equal.
      1. YuriK Offline YuriK
        YuriK (Yuri) 27 September 2022 01: 45
        +1
        I wanted to answer rudely - because of the quotes, but I looked at your profile and read your comments and understood everything ...
    2. Nelton Offline Nelton
      Nelton (Oleg) 27 September 2022 09: 25
      -2
      a specific proposal: all military commissars and employees of military commissariats who neglected their duties - to the front.

      do you write from the front?
      1. YuriK Offline YuriK
        YuriK (Yuri) 29 September 2022 03: 05
        0
        If you want to answer, answer on the merits, and not so womanishly ...
  12. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 26 September 2022 23: 28
    +1
    The West has officially determined the status of the Russian Federation - Enemy!
    Set the task of defragmenting-decolonizing the Russian Federation.
    Having behind the “collective West” and in fact the rest of the world in one way or another dependent on the West, Ukraine itself puts forward the conditions of the Russian Federation - the return of Crimea, the withdrawal of troops from all occupied territories, including the DPR-LPR, the payment of reparations.
    I.V. Stalin during the war with the fascist Germany and its satellites did not trade and did not supply raw materials, unlike the Russian Federation, which essentially wages a war for its existence and trades with the enemy behind the back of the army, supplying whatever he wants - a variety of raw materials , energy resources, metallurgy and agricultural products.
  13. paramaribo55 kmt (paramaribo55 kmt) 27 September 2022 13: 16
    -2
    Kyiv is a Russian city. It cannot be part of Ukraine. Ukraine itself should not disappear, but should be reduced to the size of one region, for example, Zhytomyr, respectively, with the capital in Zhytomyr. This territory is quite enough for their national state. The rest of the territory will be Russia, as it should be.
    1. Alexander_F_77 Offline Alexander_F_77
      Alexander_F_77 (Alexander Fomichev) 29 September 2022 11: 26
      0
      Suppose on the territory of the Kursk region, ... far away ... the landowner bought the land, arranged the landfill, created a concentration camp for the guilty ... What is the Zhytomyr region, look at the "photo from Feb. '22." burnt our columns, the interrogation of our captured soldiers, ... The nationalists have nothing but merciless destruction.
      1. paramaribo55 kmt (paramaribo55 kmt) 30 September 2022 04: 47
        0
        When for us, this war will also become a war of annihilation, and when traitors and thieves in Moscow and not only in Moscow will be shot, and not let them quietly quit and leave the country, then maybe something will change for the better side, but today, the situation is losing.
  14. Alexey Lan Offline Alexey Lan
    Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 27 September 2022 22: 25
    0
    As the saying goes:

    Dreams ... dreams, where is your sweetness, dreams are gone ... disgusting remains.
    1. paramaribo55 kmt (paramaribo55 kmt) 28 September 2022 05: 03
      0
      Dreams materialize into reality, can't you see it ..
  15. Sergey Kuzmin Offline Sergey Kuzmin
    Sergey Kuzmin (Sergei) 28 September 2022 12: 16
    0
    9. Monetary compensation to all those who died in the special operation, as well as to all forcibly mobilized Ukrainian citizens or members of their families.

    Who should pay for this and how much?
  16. Alexander_F_77 Offline Alexander_F_77
    Alexander_F_77 (Alexander Fomichev) 29 September 2022 11: 04
    0
    Gentlemen, comrades
    The Russian Federation does not want "increments by the Dnipropetrovsk regions" and peace in Ukraine ..
    Abstractly, but the West began the destruction of our state, by all available means .. Ukrainian guys cannot be "irradiated" with electronic warfare, they have to be denazified, we feel sorry for all of us. And beyond the ocean, nothing is a pity. There will be no peaceful path forever if the "supernova .. star" does not light up .. Since neither Turkey, nor China, nor Iran, ... climb anywhere, all of our brothers are "Heating at the fire".)
  17. EMMM Offline EMMM
    EMMM 30 September 2022 17: 45
    0
    In my opinion, the author did not realize one important fact. Under the conditions of the American lend-lease, Ukraine cannot be left with a single square meter of sovereign Ukraine. Otherwise it will be the defeat of Russia. American bases in Chernihiv, Sumy, Kyiv, etc. regions-this is a reality that can only be avoided by clearing the entire territory of Ukraine, and joining it to the Russian Federation. Neither Poland, nor Romania, nor Hungary (with all due respect to its policy) can be discussed in the sense of transferring part of Ukraine to these states, in view of the fact that this is a direct way to create Ukraine, subject to occupation by pants.
  18. radvas Offline radvas
    radvas (Igor) 1 October 2022 20: 31
    0
    The war continues. It is clear to everyone that crests will not agree to these demands. We'll have to squeeze them and bring them to consciousness. Russia has a cure. Wonderful Norilsk. Who does not agree, the grave.
  19. radvas Offline radvas
    radvas (Igor) 1 October 2022 20: 34
    0
    I don't want to scare. I live in Hochland myself. But I'm waiting for the Russians. Because there has never been such chaos as now. Come already!!!)))