Stoltenberg: After the referendums, Russia will declare that its territory is attacked using NATO weapons


In the West, the beginning of partial mobilization in the Russian Federation and the tightening of rhetoric were taken very seriously. They noticed that Russia has never in its history (neither the Russian Empire nor the USSR) resorted to such measures without an official declaration of war on the enemy. Local experts and functionaries attribute this to the holding of referendums on joining the Russian Federation in the DPR and LPR, as well as Zaporozhye and Kherson regions.


For example, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, who is leaving his post this year, believes that after the aforementioned referenda and the annexation of territories controlled by the Russian Armed Forces to Russia, Moscow will begin to accuse the West and NATO more actively of helping Kyiv. Russia "wants an escalation" of the conflict, therefore, will claim that its lands are attacked with the use of weapons of the Alliance and Western countries in general. He stated this in an interview with American CNN.

At the same time, Stoltenberg expressed confidence that NATO would not be afraid. Moreover, the Alliance and the collective West will not only continue to help Ukraine by supplying its troops with weapons systems, ammunition, ammunition and everything necessary, but will increase support, despite the Kremlin’s statements and “aggressive hints” about the possibility of using nuclear weapons. However, he did not specify where he got such a conviction.

NATO's response is to step up support. The best way to end this war is to further strengthen the Ukrainians on the battlefield so that they can at some point sit down at the table and reach a solution that is acceptable to Ukraine and preserves it as a sovereign independent state in Europe

- he added.

Stoltenberg warned that the world must prepare for this. The West will never recognize the results of these referendums.
  • Used photographs: Office of the President of Ukraine
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  1. Mobius Offline Mobius
    Mobius 24 September 2022 12: 22
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    Stoltenberg: After the referendums, Russia will declare that its territory is attacked using NATO weapons

    And then with whose else? ?? Or now - "I'm not me, and the hut is not mine"?

    The cat smells yes whose meat you ate... negative
    1. EMMM Offline EMMM
      EMMM 24 September 2022 23: 00
      +5
      And how are they beating the Belgorod Region?
      1. Gelos Offline Gelos
        Gelos (Gelos) 25 September 2022 21: 28
        +1
        And Kursk, Bryansk? ... Yes! And no "martial law".
  2. Alex D Offline Alex D
    Alex D (Alex D) 24 September 2022 12: 24
    +3
    It is necessary to inflict the same blows on the territory of NATO countries! With the same number of victims! An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth!
    1. Boniface Offline Boniface
      Boniface (Igor Markin) 25 September 2022 11: 10
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      Do you want to go to the front, to a nuclear war?
      1. Vdars Offline Vdars
        Vdars (Victor) 25 September 2022 21: 30
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        Do you want to go to the front, to a nuclear war?

        There, at the front after the nuclear bombardment, in the very center of the charged zone, the very place of Stoltenberg!
    2. Benjamin Offline Benjamin
      Benjamin (Benjamin) 25 September 2022 12: 12
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      We need to hit all NATO countries
  3. Sydor Kovpak Offline Sydor Kovpak
    Sydor Kovpak 24 September 2022 12: 26
    +4
    It once again confirms that they finished with Ukraine back in February, now they need to finish with NATO.
    1. EMMM Offline EMMM
      EMMM 24 September 2022 23: 02
      +3
      I will add, it is necessary to finish with Nazism.
  4. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 24 September 2022 12: 54
    +2
    but wasn’t NATO shelling the Crimea? Nothing will change
  5. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 24 September 2022 14: 02
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    This is another evidence that the SVO, without leading irresistible pressure on the owner of this war with nuclear weapons, under any scenario, works for his plans. Plans to incite war in Europe with the help of Russia.
    As I already wrote, the Anglo-Saxons are counting on this war:
    - avert the danger of using Russia's strategic nuclear weapons on its territory when it is defeated by proxy
    - weaken the blood of Russia and completely subjugate (enslave) the European members of NATO, tk. The United States is having problems returning production from China, while Europe has kept them on its own territory and has a decisive competitive advantage in the new world
    - deprive China of potential allies in the face of Russia and Europe
    - with minimal forces and without risk, finish off Russia and take possession of its resources
    - to deprive Europe of the opportunity to claim a fair share of Russia's resources
    - remove possible obstacles before the fight with China
    - earn on the supply of weapons to all
    - earn on the restoration of Europe
    Without choosing a winning strategy against our main and mortal enemy, even the great idea of ​​referendums and protecting the republics from NATO will be within his plans and serve his purposes. But for this, you first need to resolve the issue with his "fifth column" in power
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    2. EMMM Offline EMMM
      EMMM 24 September 2022 23: 18
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      You didn't teach history well!
      Hitler first of all resubordinated the economy of Europe to himself, and then decided to go to the USSR. Frankly, by Western standards, the plan was perfect, but it did not take into account the peculiarities of the Russian mentality.
      I will add that Europe has never been an ally of China. As a loyal vassal, she considered China a threat. And rightly so - soon the whole of Europe will drive Chinese (for those who are poorer, Russian) cars.
      Well, the maxim that Europe is an ally of China is a complete misunderstanding of world realities.
      1. Mobius Offline Mobius
        Mobius 25 September 2022 05: 57
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        Quote: EMMM
        soon all of Europe will drive Chinese (for those who are poorer, Russian) cars.

        You will be surprised, but, for example, in Germany - "the richer ones" often had / have as
        the second VAZ car, most often it is the legendary "Niva", less often - the "classic" fading into oblivion used for going out into the countryside and as a hardy, unpretentious tractor for a trailer ...
        1. EMMM Offline EMMM
          EMMM 5 December 2022 18: 07
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          I won't be surprised, since I've been interested in the history of cars since 1972. And about "Moskvich" in Europe, and the medal of the Belgian exhibition at the GAZ-24, and "Niva" in England ...
  6. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 24 September 2022 14: 36
    +1
    NATO's refusal to recognize the results of the referendum and the accession of the DPR-LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye provinces to the Russian Federation means Ukraine's continued attempts to return them under its control.
    Peskov spoke and spoke on behalf of the President that in the event that the DPR-LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye provinces join, they will automatically be subject to the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
    NATO participation in the war on the side of Ukraine is a direct immediate threat to the security of the Russian Federation, and the Russian Federation will defend its security with all available forces and means - by order of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, since the beginning of the NMD in Ukraine, all strategic forces of the Russian Federation have been transferred to a special order of service and are in full combat readiness - the choice for NATO
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 24 September 2022 17: 39
      +3
      Interestingly, you get Jacques:

      NATO's refusal to recognize the results of the referendum and the accession of the DPR-LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye provinces to the Russian Federation means Ukraine's continued attempts to return them under its control.

      In my opinion, this is an attempt to mislead people. Ukraine cannot try anything, because. it is controlled directly by the US.

      NATO participation in the war on the side of Ukraine is a direct immediate threat to the security of the Russian Federation

      Again take your attention away from the master of the war. It should be added ... "from the side of the USA", because it is they who are forcing the NATO countries to fight against us.

      NATO's participation in the war on the side of Ukraine is a direct and immediate threat to the security of the Russian Federation, and the Russian Federation will defend its security with all available forces and means ... - the choice is for NATO

      Again an attempt to divert attention - NATO does not solve anything - "the choice is up to the States"
      An interesting trend is emerging.
      The states are really interested now that we do not see them as our main enemy. They want us to fight NATO. They themselves intend to stay in the shade, finish off Russia and collect trophies. Are you from somewhere else?
    2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 24 September 2022 18: 05
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      As for this:

      The Russian Federation will defend its security with all available forces and means - by order of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, since the beginning of the NMD in Ukraine, all strategic forces of the Russian Federation have been transferred to a special order of service and are in full combat readiness

      this is a common measure to protect a country from an enemy nuclear strike (that is, readiness to use strategic nuclear weapons in a retaliatory or retaliatory strike). Lavrov spoke about this. To reassure the Western audience and exclude any broad interpretation of this step. All statements by the country's leadership, including recent ones, boil down to preventing them from a nuclear war (it goes without saying that, all the more so, to preventing the first use of strategic nuclear weapons or similar threats).
      Partial mobilization does not, unfortunately, give any reason to think that the leadership will move away from these habitual attitudes.
  7. Vladimir Golubenko (Vladimir Golubenko) 24 September 2022 15: 07
    +3
    NATO must be destroyed without fail. The States will follow. The Yankees are a bunch of criminals and gangsters. They have no place on earth.
  8. Grei grin Offline Grei grin
    Grei grin (Gray Grin) 24 September 2022 20: 35
    +3
    The Anglo-Saxons, America and England, the initiators of this massacre, will be responsible for the shelling of NATO weapons in the first place, and they will not stand aside! England the island will sink, and the United States live on the Yelstone supervolcano and roughly imagine what will happen to them after the first attack! All the peoples of the world understand that the Anglo-Saxons are the world's Evil and it can no longer be tolerated!
  9. Potapov Offline Potapov
    Potapov (Valery) 25 September 2022 08: 59
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    I woke up ... There was a distinct smell of a vigorous loaf ...
  10. Azvozdam Offline Azvozdam
    Azvozdam (Azvozdam) 25 September 2022 11: 03
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    Let the leadership of Western countries ask their citizens if they agree to live after ..., in caves? Without toilet paper and warm bathrooms. It’s getting to that! We will survive, not all, but most. Those who "left the caves" are not far. And nothing and no one from them. And let the peoples think, however, there is little hope for this. ideology. The one that wins will remain for many, many years.
  11. blackcat190463 Offline blackcat190463
    blackcat190463 (Yuri) 25 September 2022 11: 32
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    Well, not directly Vanga and not Stoltenberg, Putin spoke about this more than once, but it just dawned on him, like a giraffe am . Yes, my native Belgorod and the Kursk region are being shelled, but apparently this is not enough, to declare Ukraine an aggressor, therefore, they will hold a referendum, accept it as part of the Russian Federation, and offer Ukrainian troops to leave these territories, they will not agree, Ukraine is an aggressor country, put out the light, drain the water am
  12. lemeshkin Offline lemeshkin
    lemeshkin (lemeshkin) 25 September 2022 13: 01
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    Quote: Benjamin
    We need to hit all NATO countries

    In general, as they say, talking is not tossing bags. maybe you shouldn't be so arrogant? We can’t deal with Ukraine quickly, but NATO’s power will be more powerful. What do you want to be really sad?
    1. Boa kaa Offline Boa kaa
      Boa kaa (Alexander) 25 September 2022 13: 55
      +3
      Quote from lemeshkin
      We can’t deal with Ukraine quickly, but NATO’s power will be more powerful. What do you want to be really sad?

      1. With dill, it was necessary "powerfully and decisively", starting from February 24, to resolve fundamental issues. It was necessary to chop off the jackal's head, and not poke him with a knife in the ass! Then everything would be over within 2 months.
      An incorrect assessment of the enemy and the state of the population led to a protracted mess with blood and unnecessary casualties on our part.
      2. LEND-LEASE will begin on October 1 ... The Yankees will supply dill with everything they ask ... And this is fraught with serious complications for our troops.
      3. Based on the results of the referendum, the eastern and southeastern regions of dill will still become part of Russia. The Nazis will continue their shelling. (They can’t help but continue!) We will announce an attack on our territories by dill, we will declare country-U a terrorist state ... This will untie our hands in resolving the issues of liquidating the leadership of the Ukro-Reich, striking at terrorist training bases ...
      But what about bases in Poland? other NATO countries? With aircraft RTR / AWACS, ISZ-r ???
      We cannot provoke NATO into declaring war on us, but it is also impossible to leave such indecency unpunished!
      4. About "sorrow". Here the question is who will feel more sad - us or the European sixes of Washington ...
      WINTER IS SOON ... (c) But it will be very bad for them in the spring, when firewood and coal run out, production stops and there is no electricity ... Are the burghers ready to sacrifice their comfort for the sake of an incomprehensible idea of ​​the rulers in the distant dill? I don't think so. Do European governments understand this? - They understand ... So they will do something to slip off the hook of the Angola-Saxons. We need to seize this moment. Divide and rule! - As old as the world. But it works fine.
      Therefore, let's hope for the wisdom of our leadership and the professionalism of our diplomats. Courage and steadfastness of the fighters at the front.
      5. And at the expense of the FIFTH COLUMN - the issue must be resolved unambiguously and IMMEDIATELY!!! Otherwise, they will hand over, as in the "holy 90s" for a pack of cookies and a barrel of jam!
  13. consultant Offline consultant
    consultant (Vladimir) 25 September 2022 19: 23
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    For example, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, who is leaving his post this year, believes that ...

    Not this year, but next. If they don’t extend his powers for the umpteenth time. Yes, and it won't change anything.
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