Foreign Policy: Dangerous opposition from Putin supporters has emerged in Russia


The September events in the Kharkiv region of Ukraine caused the accelerated emergence of a non-standard form of opposition in Russia. It consists of outspoken or latent supporters of Russian President Vladimir Putin and is neither democratic nor anti-war. On the contrary, they are the most extreme supporters of the head of state. Members of the movement are becoming more and more angry at the unsuccessfully unfolding special military operation for Russia. The purpose of the movement and outrage is for Putin to sharpen the NMD, use more destructive weapons and hit the enemy even more ruthlessly. Writes about it edition of Foreign Policy.


The last week has been marked by open attacks on the Russian military and political leadership for allegedly holding back the entire power of Russia, which led to the withdrawal of the RF Armed Forces from the Kharkov region. The main feature of the outraged "public" is the desire for an escalation of the war, including large-scale demands for the use of nuclear weapons, which is dangerous in itself.

The group of opposition-minded figures is not an integral party or an organized force, but a disparate movement of "hawks". The publication ranks Igor Strelkov, a former FSB officer and commander of the DPR militia, publicist Yegor Kholmogorov, military commissar Maxim Fomin, who writes under the pseudonym Vladlen Tatarsky, as well as Evgeny Rasskazov, also known as "Topaz", and others as the most prominent representatives of the described society.

Summing up, the publication writes that, despite the complete disloyalty to dissenting media, the Kremlin surprisingly so far bypasses such aggressive thinkers and public figures. But times are changing. There are already signs that Moscow is aware of the problem and will seek to rein in the angry nationalists, who are fast becoming what can truly be called the "greatest challenge" to power.
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  1. zzdimk Offline zzdimk
    zzdimk 15 September 2022 08: 53
    +27
    In fact, there are much more people who want to crush the Nazi louse. There are even more of those who want to use force to the maximum, so that Europe shudders in the evenings from rustling, and the United States nervously looks at the sky and at the sea / ocean surface in anticipation of surprises.
    1. Corsair Offline Corsair
      Corsair (DNR) 15 September 2022 09: 06
      +12
      There are already signs that Moscow is aware of the problem and will seek to rein in angry nationalists.

      Let us leave on the conscience of the Americans what they patriots they called them nationalists, but their assessment that the authorities are preparing repressions against them is alarming.

      The authorities, instead of correcting themselves, will "reset the brains" of those who point out shortcomings (to put it mildly) in its activities?
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 15 September 2022 17: 24
        0
        There are already signs that Moscow is aware of the problem and will seek to rein in angry nationalists.

        The Americans seem to have a hard time with their wards in power. For them, everything is simple - the whole country with the population - to the root and that's it.
        Their wards have the remnants of conscience. They were raised by the Motherland, no matter how contemptuously they treat it. People who are now in favor of liberating the country from the American collar are right in life. It's hard for them to object.
        Especially if you take into account - WHERE the country is now being led
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 15 September 2022 21: 43
          +1
          By the way, here is one of those people.
          Former head of the Control Department of the Presidential Administration of Russia (from March 1992 to March 1993), member of the first (elected) Federation Council (from December 1993 to December 1995), Deputy Chairman of the Accounts Chamber of Russia (since January 1995 th to January 2001) Yuri Boldyrev
          https://svpressa.ru/politic/article/341038/

          ... For this, all approaches to power were walled up and concreted, so that no other idea, no other way of life, development and movement into the future, except for the stupid eating away of the heritage of the ancestors, could constitute an alternative to the consistent degradation of the country that has been going on for three decades.
          It remains to ask a naive question: so if we, the people of Russia, paid and continue to pay tribute in one form or another, then this is a tribute for what?
          Obviously: for our resignation, inability to self-organize and consent to the usurpation of power by those who have the opportunity to pass off their obligations to external forces as obligations of the state, that is, our obligations to you.
        2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 16 September 2022 06: 22
          0
          There are people in the "enemy camp" who are also surprised by the "work" of our government.
          Here is an article full of sincere bewilderment.
          It was written by the recently known Paul Craig Roberts, journalist, Ph.D.
          https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/346073/
          Craig Roberts:

          ... The question is whether Putin is able to act decisively. Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov again exposed Russia as indecisive and weak, offering Ukraine "victorious" peace talks against the backdrop of the withdrawal of Russian troops from the front line in Kharkov...

          ... I increasingly wonder if Putin and Lavrov really want not Russian sovereignty and a multipolar world, but to be part of the West, and if this desire does not make them incapable of fighting ...

          ... The real world is based on strength, and Russia's restraint in using its power has put Russia at a huge disadvantage. Since Russia is perceived in the West as weak and indecisive, Washington will press on until the Kremlin has no alternative but surrender or nuclear war...

          It is clear that Roberts, among other things, may be trying to work for his country, pushing us to take active steps in the American trap in Ukraine.
          However, the truth shines through
      2. Stinging Nettle Offline Stinging Nettle
        Stinging Nettle (Stinging Nettle) 15 September 2022 17: 49
        +1
        In fact, this is already happening. Kadyrov was going to explain to Putin what is happening on earth. Two days later, he no longer wants to explain anything to Putin, and explains to the population that everything is going right on earth.
        This is Kadyrov, who has his own security forces. And we are not the Kadyrovs.
      3. GIS Offline GIS
        GIS (Ildus) 15 September 2022 18: 28
        +1
        this is not an assessment, this is their desire for the Russians to sit quietly and chew popcorn on TV, and not shock society for tougher measures in relation to the bussr, tk. they (Ukrainians) will be followed by demands on the Psheks, the Balts, the Czechs, the Germans, the French, the Britons and the U.S.
    2. GIS Offline GIS
      GIS (Ildus) 15 September 2022 09: 27
      +8
      moreover, many who understand what the United States and Britain have prepared for us offer to immediately stop the potential with the help of nuclear weapons
      for me, duck, first take the British mercenaries "by the beard" (and they are probably among the prisoners in the DPR / LDN / RF), pull them out for everyone to see, get an interview how they, on the instructions of Her Majesty's government, went to "kill Russians", then judge and bring the execution of the court (hang) live, then present an ultimatum to Britain, give them 48 hours to withdraw all (but in general, I don’t care whose mercenaries, military and weapons are even from Australia) military experts, soldiers, PMCs and weapons. the output must be fixed at the border. they didn’t withdraw, they didn’t have time - it means they get on the island (all thermal power plants, hydroelectric power stations and other electricity generating infrastructure) into dust. Yes, they will whine about Article 5, but they were also warned in February that these were our "intra-family showdowns"
  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 15 September 2022 08: 56
    -18
    It reminds of the year 37, when a galaxy of "correct publications" called on the NKVD to crush, destroy, shoot even faster ...
    1. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
      Paul3390 (Paul) 15 September 2022 09: 21
      +13
      No. The situation painfully resembles the year 1905 that way .. When, against the backdrop of a shamefully lost war, uprisings began, brutally suppressed. What happened next - I think everyone remembers.
      1. Corsair Offline Corsair
        Corsair (DNR) 15 September 2022 09: 37
        +8
        Quote from Paul3390
        The situation painfully resembles the year 1905 that way .. When, against the backdrop of a shamefully lost war, uprisings began, brutally suppressed.

        Tsushima, Port Arthur, and then Krasnaya Presnya and, as a result, the lessons not learned by the authorities - VOSR and the Civil War ...

        But, if this happens, then do not even hope that the West will stand aside.

        It was then, at the beginning of the twentieth century, that they burst out, did not tear Russia apart. Thought - "It will resolve itself" ...
        Now they will not miss their chance.
        1. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
          Paul3390 (Paul) 15 September 2022 09: 42
          +4
          Undoubtedly. This consideration is the only thing that keeps people from mass discontent. Even the communists, to whom I rank myself, for the most part have come to the conclusion that now it is wrong to put pressure on the authorities. For in the event of the defeat of the Russian Federation, we will simply have nowhere to build the USSR 2.1. This time - the West will stupidly wipe us into dust. Without any chance of revival .. So - you have to support, albeit disgusting.
          1. Corsair Offline Corsair
            Corsair (DNR) 15 September 2022 09: 54
            +1
            Quote from Paul3390
            have to support, albeit disgusting

            This is what we start from...

            We, who depend on Russia in everything, have nowhere to go at all, we have to "go in the fairway" ...
            1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
              Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 15 September 2022 12: 43
              -2
              In the fairway - where? To the European slaughter prepared for us by the States? According to their plan? For those whom the States put in our country back in 1991?
              Is it possible that without the support and pressure of the "lower classes" there will be a force in power that will bring order to it? The Communists are the same pocket party as the others. It is built into the government, has successfully existed all these years, and is not able to change anything. You are right that our fate depends on Russia. It is irresponsible to rely on this fate without trying to save it. Save yourself, your children and their future.
              We must be worthy of our ancestors, who were not afraid to take responsibility and change lives. They won back this country for us and our children, passing it and its fate into our hands.
              1. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
                Paul3390 (Paul) 15 September 2022 15: 06
                +2
                The Communist Party of the Russian Federation is by no means a Communist Party .. And the Communists - they are still different ..
                1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
                  Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 15 September 2022 21: 22
                  0
                  I won't argue with this.
            2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
              Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 15 September 2022 13: 09
              -2
              It is precisely in the fact that the death is prepared by the States, and the authorities following their lead, not only to the country, but to each of its citizens, their children and future, that there is a force that can now bind the most diverse people into one active whole.
          2. Amper Offline Amper
            Amper (Vlad) 17 September 2022 20: 13
            0
            And what are the signs that Russia is defeating the Nazis? what
  3. Bulanov Online Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 15 September 2022 08: 59
    +5
    There are already signs that Moscow is aware of the problem and will seek to rein in angry nationalists,

    And why should people from Russia who stand against the Nazis and nationalists of Ukraine be called nationalists? These are just internationalists, approximately like in Spain in the 1930s. Do you think they should also be called nationalists?
    1. GIS Offline GIS
      GIS (Ildus) 15 September 2022 09: 16
      +1
      Well, this is not our publication writes. they are all there already a little (although I’m lying A LOT) turned on Russophobia.
      I just went to foreign media to read how the farmers in the Netherlands are doing - the article was about them

      Italian strike and destruction of food. then I went to the source (the website of their newspaper / publication, or whatever they are called there). So, all the first headlines are about how Ukraine resists aggression, wins, and how everywhere that GDP is a villain. and local news is drowning in all this Ukrainian-Russophobic frenzy

      (site Croatian)
      https://www.advance.hr/
    2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 15 September 2022 13: 18
      +3
      There are already signs that Moscow is aware of the problem and will seek to rein in angry nationalists,

      For example, I see in this passage an unleashed allusion by the Americans to the current government. With restrained bewilderment and master's intonations. Which, in itself, is remarkable. The Americans, as it were, rely on the implied, common interests with our government in this matter, and are also worried that their plans will not be thwarted.
  4. Paul3390 Offline Paul3390
    Paul3390 (Paul) 15 September 2022 09: 18
    +10
    If Putin decides to put pressure on even such people, who will he remain with then?? Liberals already hate him for the very fact of the war, and for the economic consequences. Now - it remains only to receive something similar from the side of conditional patriots, and what will be the bottom line? On whom will he begin to rely - on alligators and bureaucrats? Moreover, I don’t think that this situation causes great enthusiasm among the military either. Which not only shed their blood, but also turn out to be extreme, despite the fact that they, in general, are not particularly to blame. Well, it wasn’t the generals who allocated a completely insufficient outfit of forces for the operation, didn’t the generals forbid even touching communications with a finger? But for some reason, they are to blame for the defeat.
    1. Corsair Offline Corsair
      Corsair (DNR) 15 September 2022 09: 27
      +1
      Quote from Paul3390
      Well, it wasn’t the generals who allocated a completely insufficient outfit of forces for the operation, didn’t the generals forbid even touching communications with a finger? But for some reason, they are to blame for the defeat.

      Victory has a thousand fathers, and defeat is always an orphan

      So the 35th US President (1961-1963) John Fitzgerald Kennedy (1917-1963) commented (April 21, 1961) on the reaction in the United States to the failure of the US landing in the Bay of Pigs (Bay of Pigs) in Cuba.
    2. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
      Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 15 September 2022 10: 03
      +8
      the worst thing will be if Putin loses the support of the Army and the National Guard. In Moscow, the watchdogs of the regime will still be able to hold actions, but those who lost their friends and then left by gestures of goodwill are unlikely to be able to forget it ... now Russia is on a very thin line. and the one who leads Putin leads the case to the collapse of Russia. not in vain all these fireworks, holidays during the retreat ... apparently, the reindeer herder decided that he could become the beneficiary of a future geopolitical catastrophe along with the plywood marshal. and deliberately drives a wedge between the good grandfather and the people ... all hope that the people will finally sober up and the Army will support the people this time, and not the ghouls that they saved in 1993
  5. Pound Offline Pound
    Pound (Alexander) 15 September 2022 09: 31
    +1
    And whose newspaper is this ?, and where did she get such information ......
    1. Corsair Offline Corsair
      Corsair (DNR) 15 September 2022 10: 53
      +4
      Quote: Funt
      And whose newspaper is this ?, and where did she get such information ......

      Neither one nor the other is important.
      The important thing is that the authorities are ready to fish out at least something that is capable of
      at least somehow whitewash her epic failures.
    2. skeptic Offline skeptic
      skeptic 15 September 2022 12: 29
      +2
      Quote: Funt
      And whose newspaper is this ?, and where did she get such information ......

      Yes, a garden root crop, on it. The people are ready to endure and support everything that is done, in fairness. Don't care. The official sites of "questions and suggestions" in the areas of "SVO", "Defence", "Economics", etc. can be quite a great idea. Yes, you have to recruit Centers for psychologists, military analysts, economists to analyze and select "molecular particles" useful information. Yes. there will be a lot of outright schizophrenia, but this will enable the people to convey their proposals and reduce the degree of social tension. State bodies will, in contrast, see the landmarks of the worldview of the population and the opportunity to find a common language in the development of Russia. Now it is needed more than ever. And it would be better - not to delay.
  6. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 15 September 2022 09: 56
    +2
    After NATO’s creeping “development” of the territory of Ukraine, the construction of US and British naval bases in Ochakovo and Berdyansk, the US Air Force’s defiant imitation of a nuclear strike on the Russian Federation from the Kharkiv region, the violation of the Russian borders by US and British ships in the Black Baltic Sea and the Pacific Ocean, the buildup of military NATO’s potential in Europe near the borders of the Kaliningrad province and the union state, declaring the Russian Federation an enemy, imposing sanctions and a political economic blockade in order to undermine the economy and starting a full-scale information war in order to provoke social instability with the subsequent “defragmentation-decolonization” of the Russian Federation, and countless other provocations, the Russian Federation presented an ultimatum on non-expansion, non-deployment and return of NATO to the borders of 1979, and after an eight-year attempt by Ukraine to solve the DPR-LPR problem by force and warning the Russian Federation about Ukraine's possible loss of its statehood, there was nothing left to do but move from words to deeds - to recognize the independence of the DPR-LPR and start the NWO that was in met with understanding by the absolute majority of the population of the Russian Federation.
    The misunderstanding of the population is caused by trade and economic relations with NATO, the ultimate goal and strategy of conducting the NWO against the background of attempts to complete the NWO with some kind of agreement with Ukrainian nationalists, which is perceived by them as a weakness of the Russian Federation and a victory.
    Without a leader, it's not opposition. Real opposition can form among the big capital represented by the RSSP under the influence of the imposed sanctions, which have a strong impact on their income, the lion's share of which is formed on the external, and not on the domestic market, and if it comes to this, “fun” times will come, because everyone The RSPP singer can easily buy a political party or form his own army, with all the ensuing consequences.
    1. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
      vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 15 September 2022 14: 51
      +1
      You can express your thoughts in a thesis form, briefly and to the point. And the conclusion is what should be done? Who will do?
  7. Nikolay Volkov Offline Nikolay Volkov
    Nikolay Volkov (Nikolai Volkov) 15 September 2022 09: 59
    +1
    it seems that everything is being led to this in order to throw off Putin ... "the good grandfather" is told that the broken Ferris wheel should be solemnly opened, but at the same time they themselves are destroying the front ... two events overlap each other and voila ... there is a complete analogue of 1917. only then did the naive tsarist generals believe that they would throw off the loser and win. and now they want to overthrow Putin and lose...and then, and now the people of Russia will be the main victim. although no, now it will be worse. then there was a man who said "there is such a party" and in the shortest possible time gathered many territories back. Now Zyuganov is in Lenin's place ...
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 15 September 2022 12: 48
      +1
      then there was a man who said "there is such a party

      Yes, the German General Staff transported this man through all of Europe from Switzerland in order to destroy the enemy - Russia .. Germany lost, and the man did not have to pay hundreds of tons of gold and all of Ukraine for travel to Russia. (Brest peace).. This is history. Today we have a completely different than before 2009, a completely different V.V. Putin, and the West does not experience such a change ... It means that it is profitable for the enemies, and accordingly there is no Russia ... Big changes are coming, the main thing is to save Russia and peace for everyone, as F.E. Dzerzhinsky said:

      warm heart, cold mind and clean hands...
    2. Bulanov Online Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 15 September 2022 14: 00
      +6
      Now Zyuganov is in Lenin's place ...

      Now Kadyrov can take the place of Lenin. He can be supported, as Stalin was previously supported.
      1. Corsair Offline Corsair
        Corsair (DNR) 15 September 2022 14: 27
        +4
        Quote: Bulanov
        Now Kadyrov can take the place of Lenin. He can be supported, as Stalin was previously supported.

        Will be able to become a truly "supranational" leader, then why not?
      2. Stinging Nettle Offline Stinging Nettle
        Stinging Nettle (Stinging Nettle) 15 September 2022 17: 59
        +2
        Putin also had the image of a "strict dad" in his time. Oh, he will soak everyone in the toilet!
        This is infantilism - to want a strict dad, on whom you can rely and not think about anything.
        Society as a whole needs to mature and not be like a child used to being overprotective.
        1. Corsair Offline Corsair
          Corsair (DNR) 15 September 2022 18: 03
          +3
          Quote: Stinging Nettle
          Putin also had the image of a "strict dad" in his time.

          As time and practice have shown, the image turned out to be exaggerated ...
  8. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 15 September 2022 13: 43
    +4
    Foreign Policy: Dangerous opposition from Putin supporters has emerged in Russia

    Dangerous - for American interests
  9. well Offline well
    well (Valery) 15 September 2022 13: 48
    +2
    There are already signs that Moscow is aware of the problem and will seek to rein in angry nationalists.

    Or maybe it would be better if Moscow is aware of the problem in the planning and methods of conducting a military operation, and will try to correct the mistakes of the command and not repeat them in the future?
  10. ZnahWest Offline ZnahWest
    ZnahWest (Ingvar b) 15 September 2022 13: 59
    +4
    If society sees the repressions of these listed figures and the like, then the support of the people in power will be at the level of Bidon.
  11. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 15 September 2022 14: 45
    +5
    Patriots of Russia are prohibited in the modern Russian Federation, as they pose a danger to the "elite".
  12. Antor Offline Antor
    Antor 15 September 2022 14: 59
    0
    It is true that there are questions, including unpleasant ones, that do not find an answer in the media space, except as distorted, hostile from our enemies. In Solovyov's program, experts, and these are far-informed, patriotic people, sometimes also do not understand why we do not hit the decision-making centers in Kyiv, allow the delivery of heavy weapons and reserves to the front line without destroying the structure and logistics of this delivery. We do not hit the distribution centers of hostile information - TV and WI-FI towers. It is clear that there are alarmists, and this is an unnecessary and unacceptable phenomenon. We will win, but we must make the price of this victory by making timely adjustments and correcting mistakes, as less bloody as possible for our heroic warriors.
  13. Art Pilot Offline Art Pilot
    Art Pilot (pilot) 15 September 2022 15: 46
    -2
    They are called "Turbo Patriots".
  14. Alex D Offline Alex D
    Alex D (Alex D) 15 September 2022 16: 22
    -8
    In my opinion, except for Putin, almost all of the country's leadership are traitors.
    1. Patron Offline Patron
      Patron 16 September 2022 19: 59
      +1
      The tsar is good, the boyars are bad, it seems they went through history.
  15. patxilek Offline patxilek
    patxilek (patxilek) 15 September 2022 18: 06
    0
    The West uses Ukraine as a gateway to Russia, as a gateway to China. Putin can read between the lines.
  16. betachrome Offline betachrome
    betachrome (hquer) 15 September 2022 19: 25
    0
    Ich sehe das Problem von Unfähigkeit definitv als Gefahr. Leider entzieht es sich meiner Kenntnis, inwiefern Charkow symptomatisch für logistische Schwächen der russischen Armee ist oder ein einmalig negatives Ereignis. Es kommt definitv darauf an, ob die Sonderoperation prinzipiell gut armiert aufgestellt ist und hinter dem zögerlichen Vorgehen
    Russland muß in der Lage sein, das Kiewer Regime bei Bedarf innerhalb kurzer Frist ausschalten zu können. Solange das gewährleistet ist, kann es auch vorsichtig und umsichtig agieren.
    Die Informationlage hierzu ist mehrdeutig. Propaganda beider Seiten überlagern eine fur den Beobachter notwendige objektive Bestandsaufnahme.
    Ich schreibe aus deutscher Sicht. Russland ist für uns Gegner des deutschen Regimes der einzige relevante Vertreter eines alternativen gesellschaftlichen Narratives. Abseits der russischen Interessenlage bzgl. der Ukraine ist ein Scheitern Russlands für unsere Interessen ein Armageddon. Scheitert Russland in der Ukraine, scheitert sein Narrativ. Damit wird die Regime- und Zeitegeistgegnerschaft von Gruppen im woken, realitäts- und denkbefreiten Gender-Gaga-Westen zum aussichtslosen Gefecht. Übernimmt der Westen im Anschluss wieder seine Weltführerschaft, ist die Chance auf einen gesellschaftlichen Wandel hier endgültig gestorben.
    Ich bete zu Gott, daß Russland Erfolg vergönnt sei, denn ohne Russland sind die Völker des Westens verloren.
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  17. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 15 September 2022 19: 42
    +4
    I am an unconditional supporter of President Putin. But I am an oppositionist, urging him to take tougher measures both against his fifth column and against the enemy in Ukraine.
  18. oberon2000oberon (Evgeny Tikhonov) 15 September 2022 20: 02
    -2
    The people again want to see Putin the way he was in 99. But is it possible?
  19. ChopChop Offline ChopChop
    ChopChop 15 September 2022 20: 14
    0
    All right. Recently, the authorities, through RBC, reminded Strelkov of the "thin edge of pluralism." It was her (authorities) response to his passage in Telegramm about the inhabitants of the planet of rose-colored glasses.
  20. sacha1960 Offline sacha1960
    sacha1960 (Sasha Anton) 15 September 2022 20: 59
    +3
    Is this site a mouthpiece for the Anglo-Saxon media? Media that ask the Russian government to remove those who warn about mistakes and dangers in Ukraine so that they can be corrected? Means that points names to said patriots so that they can be eliminated as if they were criminals?
  21. Yuri Bryanskiy Offline Yuri Bryanskiy
    Yuri Bryanskiy (Yuri Bryansky) 15 September 2022 23: 34
    +2
    If near Kharkov there was a failure of our military-political leadership, then why blame the crooked face?
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  23. Luca Chrome Offline Luca Chrome
    Luca Chrome (Peter) 16 September 2022 14: 54
    0
    Oh, foreign scum and this way and that they are trying to ruin the Russian Federation. On whom they just do not try to bet.
  24. nikproskopov Offline nikproskopov
    nikproskopov (Nikolai Prokopov) 16 September 2022 21: 43
    +1
    Russia can win, but why doesn't she want to win for real? This is the question that shocks even Putin's supporters! Why was time lost to prevent the transformation of the whole of Ukraine into a theater of military operations, as well as the fact that Europe has actually become the rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine! After all, in this state of affairs, it is much harder to win!? Why is our government always ready to make the most idiotic compromises and "goodwill gestures" as soon as it feels a threat to its personal interests, but always ready to lay down the bones for every penny when something needs to be done in the interests of ordinary citizens!?
  25. Krilion Offline Krilion
    Krilion (Krilion) 17 September 2022 08: 20
    -2
    it feels like I’m in this part of the opposition right now .. having started the war, the authorities fell into prostration and generally no longer understands what they are doing .. the military leadership is mediocrity or traitors .. society no longer understands what they want to achieve with this war, but one thing is clear .. those goals, as most Russians imagine them, will not be achieved .. everything will end with another agreement and we will get a festering fascist Ukrainian ulcer near Russia .. everything is moving towards this ...
  26. Rinat Offline Rinat
    Rinat (Rinat) 22 September 2022 05: 34
    0
    The main feature of the outraged "public" is the desire for an escalation of the war, including large-scale demands for the use of nuclear weapons,

    - the cries of individuals are not society as a whole, and not large-scale demands. Again we see pressure from scratch, they themselves came up with it, they themselves are frightened. Here I do not see smart analytics, I see stupid propaganda.