NVO showed the difficulties of the Russian Navy with complex naval operations

It is reported that the Russian Navy has begun a planned withdrawal of the ships of the Northern Fleet from the Mediterranean Sea back to the base in Severomorsk. The missile cruiser "Marshal Ustinov", the large anti-submarine ship "Vice-Admiral Kulakov", as well as the medium sea tanker "Vyazma" left. Probably, soon the flagship of the KTOF missile cruiser "Varyag" and the BOD "Admiral Tributs" are going back to the Pacific Ocean. Why is this happening and what conclusions can we draw now?

The special military operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine, which began on February 24, 2022, clearly demonstrated both the strongest and frankly weakest sides of the Russian army and navy. In particular, the RF Armed Forces suffer from a shortage of reconnaissance and strike UAVs of domestic production, which was officially recognized at the very top by the relevant Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov, now a former one. Our navy has also passed a severe test of strength.

Despite the fact that the special operation takes place mainly on the ground and is carried out by ground forces, the Russian Navy is very closely involved in it in three capacities at once.

At first, ships of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation regularly strike at the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with Caliber sea-based cruise missiles, very actively supporting the Ground Forces. In this component, the strength of the domestic fleet was most clearly manifested.

Secondly, before the start of a special military operation, all large landing ships from the available ones were transferred to the Black Sea in advance. Obviously, it was assumed that they would be involved in the implementation of the landing operation somewhere in the Odessa region. Alas, nothing good has come of it so far.

BDK "Saratov" was ingloriously destroyed right at the berth in the port of Berdyansk, several more ships of this class were damaged, fortunately, non-critically. The fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have the Neptune anti-ship missiles of their own production, and now the American Harpoon anti-ship missiles, makes the landing operation near Odessa practically unrealizable. The flagship of the Black Sea Fleet, the missile cruiser Moskva, and the tugboat Vasily Bekh were lost in the area of ​​Zmeiny Island, which had to be abandoned due to the impossibility of keeping it under long-range artillery fire from the shore.

Thirdly, an important role was played by the grouping of Russian ships assembled in the eastern Mediterranean Sea to deter the offensive potential of the NATO aircraft carrier strike formation led by the American aircraft carrier Harry Truman, operating with the support of the French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle and the Italian Cavour.

In order to prevent carrier-based aviation and NATO warships equipped with sea-based cruise missiles from supporting Ukraine with air strikes, the Russian Defense Ministry drove almost all of its combat-ready surface ships into the Eastern Mediterranean, including two "aircraft carrier killers" at once - the missile cruiser "Marshal Ustinov" , assigned to the Northern Fleet, and the Varyag, which is the flagship of the distant Pacific Fleet. In the waters of the eastern Mediterranean Sea, Russian cruisers equipped with the terrible Vulkan anti-ship missiles, with the support of coastal aviation from the Syrian Khmeimim, posed a very realistic threat even to the aircraft carrier strike formation of the NATO bloc.

In other words, by a one-time effort of all the main Russian fleets at once, the General Staff managed to concentrate in one place, on the Black Sea, a group of landing ships and in another, on the Mediterranean Sea, an attack "anti-aircraft" group. However, now, six months after the start of the special operation, three ships of the Northern Fleet had to be returned to the base for crew rest and maintenance at once. Inevitably, the ships of the Pacific Fleet of the Russian Federation will also have to be returned to their place of registry. And who will come to replace them in rotation?

But this is the most tricky question. Practice has shown that the Russian Navy simply does not have enough resources to provide such an operation for a long time. For comparison: the Americans replaced their nuclear aircraft carrier "Harry Truman" with the similar "Ronald Reagan" by rotation. The newest British aircraft carrier, the Prince of Wales, recently entered the Mediterranean under the pretext of participating in the exercises, but in fact to replace the French or Italian aircraft carrier. Russia, on the other hand, has an acute shortage of large surface ships.

The praised "mosquitoes" are in no way suitable for performing such a real combat mission. So we have to forget about the landing near Odessa, and about the fact that indefinitely for a long time to contain the AUS of the NATO bloc in the Eastern Mediterranean, and to return the ships back to their bases as planned. What conclusions can we draw from all of the above, given the updated Naval Doctrine?

Practice has shown the inconsistency of the concept of a “great continental power” artificially imposed on Russia, which allegedly does not need an ocean fleet, but SSBNs are enough for “nuclear deterrence” and a coastal “mosquito” fleet. The Russian Navy is in dire need of new warships of the 1st and 2nd ranks. To speed up, it would still be advisable to order a series of two dozen PLO corvettes in China, concentrating on the construction of frigates of projects 22350 and 22350M. It is necessary to release Nikolaev without unnecessary delay, to restore its shipbuilding plants, to return specialists back. It is also necessary to increase the capabilities of our naval base in Tartus for the repair and maintenance of Russian ships right on the Mediterranean Sea.
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  1. Akula Kharkiv 2 Offline Akula Kharkiv 2
    Akula Kharkiv 2 (Alik) 29 August 2022 12: 26
    To speed up, it would still be advisable to order a series of two dozen PLO corvettes in China

    Pff. so China is in a hurry to build 2 or 3 dozen ships for Russia. thus strengthening the Russian fleet ... well, well
  2. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 29 August 2022 13: 11
    Sergey, I support your opinion, as I understand it, the situation with warships of the 1st and 2nd rank is the same as with UAVs ... they designed, built, built, and as a result bought technology from Iran. It is a pity that it will not reach the hands of the drivers soon
  3. Peace Peace. Offline Peace Peace.
    Peace Peace. (Tumar Tumar) 29 August 2022 15: 39
    Instead of one aligarh yacht, several ships could be built.
  4. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 29 August 2022 16: 57
    Failures everywhere. The Russian Navy looks good on paper, in real life the cat cried on ocean ships. It is necessary to build cruisers, 4 pcs. for each fleet, then you do not have to expose the area of ​​​​responsibility. It is urgent to carry out the reconstruction of the water artery - the channel: the White Sea-Baltic Canal - the Volga - the Caspian Sea - the Sea of ​​\u200b\u40bAzov - the Black Sea. To ensure the passage of the ship through the channel 15 m long, XNUMX m wide, XNUMX m draft. This will allow large ocean-going ships and ships to move inside the Russian Federation. Benefits for both military and commercial fleets. With such a channel, the fact that Turkey closed the Bosporus did not affect the arrival of our ships in the Black Sea.
    1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 30 August 2022 09: 47
      Quote: vlad127490
      To ensure the passage of the ship along the channel 200 m long, 40 m wide, with a draft of 15 m.

      laughed .... the fantasies of the aircraft carrier sect go wild, this is comparable to digging up the Black Sea ..... ships of such a draft are unable to enter the port of St. Petersburg, the sea channel of the Neva Bay is only 9 meters deep with a depth of the bay itself 1.5-3 meters, huge funds are spent on this short canal dug in the bottom of the Neva Bay, it constantly has to be deepened, silted up with sand, and you offer thousands of kilometers with the demolition of all bridges on the Volga and Don on the Neva, Svir with the transfer of coastal cities .... digging a new Panama Canal, but thousands of kilometers long? ..... and all for the sake of their senseless vulnerable aircraft carrier idol sinking from the first missile .... isn’t it easier to equip all closed seas with ships of the third rank, and transfer all ships of the second rank to the oceans to protect nuclear bases, all ships write off the first rank as it fails and the service life expires, there is no need for new surface first ranks, this is obvious to all socialists, and for a long time ... but yours is unnecessary to sell Kuzya to India and China, which have tasks and convoys for him .... the main thing in the Russian fleet is the SSBN nuclear submarines, they need more and better
  5. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 29 August 2022 21: 32
    Sergey is deeply mistaken, drawing erroneous conclusions based on incorrect postulates ... Firstly, he himself writes that the Neptune and Harpoon missiles make surface ships vulnerable to the point that they cannot be used. and further calls to propagate these vulnerable tubs defenseless targets yet? I don’t see the logic .... then he continues about the alleged “aircraft carrier killers” supposedly holding back American and NATO aircraft carriers in the Mediterranean (and no one will let them go to the aircraft carrier and fire a rocket shot.) ... all that Ustinov and Varyag can do is also ingloriously die like their brother Moscow from one missile, they did not hold back anyone, this is ridiculous! they just hung out there and that's it, thank God no one drowned them. These are the very ships of the first rank that were so praised by all members of the totalitarian destructive sect of aircraft carriers ..... but drowned from one outdated missile .... only a very stupid one will build surface ships of the first rank, for our continental power, by the way, Turkey closed the straits, naturally! , and all ships of the second rank were again locked up in the Black Sea Fleet, it is urgent to withdraw all ships of the second rank to the North and Kamchatka, (I used to advocate the withdrawal of the cruiser Moscow from the Black Sea Fleet to the north ... but now it's too late) otherwise they will be sunk just as ingloriously as moscow...
  6. zuuukoo Offline zuuukoo
    zuuukoo (Sergei) 30 August 2022 19: 28
    Let's call a spade a spade. The Navy has demonstrated complete impotence on the basis of its.
    I don’t think that “the sailors are to blame for everything”, and in general, a powerful fleet costs powerful money, which we don’t have (so that they don’t write about the yachts of the oligarchs). And on a personal level, the sailors gave many examples of courage and heroism.
    But the fact remains.
    As a result, the Navy is not much more useful than the inflatable boats of the APU fleet.

    Yes, Black Sea Fleet ships can still launch calibers from the Crimean coast, but ... calibers could also be launched from cheaper platforms.
    1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 30 August 2022 23: 01
      Quote from: zuuukoo
      calibers could also be launched from cheaper platforms.

      quite right, calibers are launched perfectly from inexpensive NNSs, and from RTOs of the third rank, and huge surface corvettes frigates and a cruiser in the Black Baltic Mediterranean and Sea of ​​​​Japan surrounded by coastal missiles, this is stupidity = a crime, a waste of money and the senseless death of the crew, all of them on the oceans had to be transferred yesterday .... it is useless for a surface ship visible to everyone to butt with an invisible camouflaged coastal missile
  7. Indifferent Offline Indifferent
    Indifferent 31 August 2022 04: 46
    Yes, I agree! "Everything is gone, the plaster is being removed..."
    And where do you get such alarmists from?
    The grouping of the fleet forces in the Mediterranean for the first period of the war coped with the task of holding the NATO fleet. Until the ships return home. People are not steel. So what? No one to replace? Find and replace. The forces of the fleet are not only ships. “Moscow” in this sense excelled. Big and stupid ... Carcasses with Migshki and Sushki will fly to Khmeimim and will continue to hold back.
  8. LeeSeeTsin Offline LeeSeeTsin
    LeeSeeTsin (Stas) 31 August 2022 07: 03
    that the Russian Navy simply does not have enough resources to provide such an operation for a long time.

    But this question is already to the "vertical of power." Under the Soviets, was such an attitude towards the Navy possible? And we have to protect the country what we have and + the market. Oh yes, the yachts of the oligarchs have a length of 100 to 160 meters. This is what "our fleet" is.
  9. wladimirjankov Offline wladimirjankov
    wladimirjankov (Vladimir Yankov) 31 August 2022 12: 31
    We have no fleets, especially the Black Sea fleet. As the mess began there and throughout the country in the nineties, so it still continues. The shipbuilding industry, like all other basic ones, is in a clinical state. There are no modern shipyards. Judging by the shameful events at the Black Sea Fleet, there is no adequate command there. Admirals do not know how they are going to fight and on what. The only thing we still have left is the Premier League strategists. But its stability is questionable, due to the deplorable state of the surface fleet, naval aviation, anti-aircraft defense, AWACS.
  10. zuuukoo Offline zuuukoo
    zuuukoo (Sergei) 31 August 2022 22: 05
    Quote: wladimirjankov
    Judging by the shameful events at the Black Sea Fleet, there is no adequate command there. Admirals do not know how they are going to fight and on what.

    I don't think it's worth appointing switchmen from the leadership of the fleet.
    Admirals fight with the means that they have been allocated.
    Or does someone think that the budget included plans to supply 9 AUGs to the fleet, but the admirals refused, saying that they didn’t need it?

    The reality is that all military leaders at all times fought not with what is necessary, but with what is. Getting out as far as possible. Sometimes successful, sometimes not.

    Z. Y. : When the Mistrals were just ordered, a bunch of "experts" beat themselves in the chest with their heels that our industry would build no worse and cheaper without any problems. Mistrals broke off. AND?! Where are domestic counterparts? Or does someone think that the state did not have 2 lards for construction?! There was money, but as it turned out, there were no opportunities.