Sale of S-400 air defense systems to Turkey: mistake or triumph of Russian foreign policy?

A few days ago, a contract was signed for the supply to Turkey of the second regiment of Russian S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems. This agreement, which quarreled between Ankara and Washington a few years ago, is considered a big geopolitical victory for the Kremlin. But will the transfer of such highly effective weapons to a country that is a member of the NATO bloc eventually turn against Russia itself?

Russian "Triumph"?

Reports of negotiations on the possibility of acquiring the S-400 began to arrive as early as 2016. Turkey, with its colossal geopolitical ambitions, is striving in every possible way to switch to nationally produced weapons - its tanks, helicopters, corvettes, frigates and submarines, UDC and aircraft carriers, fifth-generation fighters, etc. Work is actively underway to create Turkish air defense systems, in which Ankara does a lot succeeded. However, long-range air defense systems are a technically extremely complex product, so the Turks went the "Chinese way" of acquiring, studying and trying to copy competitors' weapons.

Russian S-400 complexes are quite possibly the best in their class. They allow you to destroy air targets of all types, including even promising hypersonic ones. The Triumph early warning radar sees a target at a distance of up to 600 kilometers, 40N6E ultra-long-range missiles can destroy aerodynamic targets at a distance of up to 400 km. Our S-400 is capable of shooting down low-flying targets at a height of 5 meters. For comparison: the over-hyped American "Patriots" have a minimum height of defeat of 60 meters. In general, "Triumph" is really an excellent example of domestic engineering.

It is not surprising that the Turks wanted to buy it, but there were two "bottlenecks": the high price - $ 500 million for a division of 4 cars, as well as the fact that Turkey is a member of the anti-Russian NATO military bloc. However, all these problems were surprisingly easily resolved.

The total amount of the contract was 2,5 billion dollars, while Ankara pays only 45%, and the remaining 55% is provided by Moscow itself in the form of a targeted loan. At the same time, information was leaked to the press that the Turkish partners insisted on localizing the production of Russian air defense systems on their territory, at least partially. As of 2017, Vladimir Kozhin, Assistant to the President of the Russian Federation, regarding the transfer of technologies stated the following:

The issue of transferring technology for the production of S-400 anti-aircraft systems to Turkey is not being discussed.

In 2021, President Erdogan said that Moscow and Ankara agreed not to make any statements regarding the prospects for joint production of the S-400 in Turkey, since this topic is very "sensitive":

As for the joint production of S-400 parts, both sides - Turkey and Russia - agreed not to disclose any details.

Regarding the fact that the most modern air defense systems at the moment are being transferred to a potential enemy from the North Atlantic Alliance, the domestic press explained that this is a very subtle geopolitical game designed to tear Turkey away from the United States and other European vassals. And indeed, Ankara and Washington had a quarrel!

The "Hegemon" was so angry that he excluded Turkey from the program for the joint production of the fifth generation F-35 fighters, which President Erdogan counted on in the F-35B modification as carrier-based aircraft for his two universal landing ships, already built and planned, as well as for promising aircraft carrier. It turns out that victory, comrades, once again outplayed the adversary on his own territory?

Unfortunately, everything is not so simple. The cunning "sultan" waited until the collective West needed his services again, and then took his own. Against the backdrop of a special operation being carried out in Ukraine, Finland and Sweden hastily joined the NATO bloc. In exchange for its approval, Ankara knocked out serious concessions on the Kurds from its “respected partners”, as well as US permission to purchase 40 Lockheed Martin F-16V Block 70 Viper fighters for $6 billion, plus 80 upgrade kits for the F fighters already in service with the Turkish Air Force. -16 Block 70. Knowing the "sultan", there is no doubt that he will bargain with the "hegemon" and F-35B fighters for his fleet when the interests of the United States and Turkey in the region coincide.

It is interesting that today the Americans are not too worried about the transfer of another batch of S-400 air defense systems by Russia. Currently, work is underway in the United States on the latest AN / ALQ-249 electronic warfare station, designed for carrier-based electronic warfare aircraft EA-18G Growler of the US Navy. They are purposefully created to counter the Russian S-400 missile defense / air defense systems and the Chinese HQ-9, interfering with their radars and creating a false illusion about the real location of an air target. Why are we talking about this?

Because the American specialized publication Military Watch wrote the following about this:

Russia itself declassified its missile defense system to NATO by selling S-400 to Turkey. Nothing will prevent the Turkish government from transferring these schemes to the United States. This will not harm Ankara's defenses, because it is not going to use the S-400 against the American EA-18G Growler, but against other aircraft.

An interesting point of view, isn't it? However, Russian military experts reassure that in any case, a "stripped-down version" of the S-400 air defense system went for export to Turkey, where, with almost the same hardware, the software algorithms of operation were seriously changed. Probably, protection against hacking is also provided. One can only hope that no "superhackers" from somewhere in Ukraine who had anything to do with the military-industrial complex are able to hack it.
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  1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 22 August 2022 14: 36
    Each weapon goes through the stages of novelty, middle age and aging. Here is the S-400 in middle age and its enemies have long been seen through, having the predecessor of the S-300, and sold to many, including Greece, NATO aviation is training there to counter air defense. Turkey bought the S-400 due to attempts to shoot down R. Erdogan's plane by conspirators with F-16s. The Turkish NATO air defense (friend or foe) does not work against him, which is why the S-400 variant was needed for such and other cases. Definitely a success, because the NATO country is buying the S-400, this is good advertising, but there are frictions with the USA and the exclusion of Turkey from owning and participating in the production of the F-35 ..
  2. sat2004 Offline sat2004
    sat2004 22 August 2022 15: 40
    If it is sold on credit, it looks terrible, if for Turkey's fight against NATO, without a Russian loan, it's great. In order to receive Russian loans, Turkey is obliged to comply with all the recommendations of Russia, for example, to withdraw troops from Syria, to declare Crimea Russian.
  3. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 22 August 2022 16: 00
    Quote: sat2004
    If it is sold on credit, it looks terrible, if for Turkey's fight against NATO, without a Russian loan, it's great.

    It was originally sold on credit.
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 22 August 2022 20: 35
      Replica. Yes, at least it was donated to Turkey and she accepted it - all the political, strategic and economic consequences are in favor of the Russian Federation ... The United States foolishly gives its weapons to states, the strategic benefit is incommensurably greater than the cost of "gifts" ...
  4. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 22 August 2022 19: 50
    In fact, in this case, the interests of Turkey and Russia simply coincided. But initially it was the requirement of Russia.
    Akkuyu NPP is the property of Rosatom.
    During the construction of a nuclear power plant, a variety of requirements are laid down. The depth of planning reaches 80 years, from the beginning of design to the end of disposal. Plus, thousands of contractors and subcontractors are involved. And all this must be coordinated. That is why Rosatom was instructed to oversee the Northern Sea Route. The liberal government in the field of planning and organizing something useful is still (especially for the period of the start of the NSR and Akkuyu projects) impotent. And Rosatom is capable of becoming the progenitor of the future State Planning Commission. The right people are there.
    One of the areas of NPP planning is safety. In this case, including air defense. It is clear that ours laid the best (at that time) and is in mass production. In addition, she, on occasion, will not shoot down our planes. But the F-16 - for a sweet soul and with great pleasure.
  5. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 22 August 2022 21: 08
    mistake or triumph of Russian foreign policy?

    You can't sell the most modern weapons just like that! If you decide to sell, then you need to set conditions for yourself. Well, what conditions did Russia set for Turkey? On the contrary, Turkey after that became indecently indecent. And Putin has one "loot" on his mind. And in Ukraine, because of Turkey, how much Russian blood was shed?
    1. Shmurzik Offline Shmurzik
      Shmurzik (Seymslav) 22 August 2022 21: 53
      Quote: steel maker
      And in Ukraine, because of Turkey, how much Russian blood was shed?

      Not at all ... - it is not the fault of Turkey that blood is shed there.
  6. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 22 August 2022 21: 36
    An empty question and answer, just leading away from the main

    After all, it all depends on the starting point of view.
    If we consider, according to the declared truth, (as it was once declared throughout Russia), Endogan is the killer of Russian Pilots, an accomplice of terrorists, an occupier who is fighting against the Syrian and our troops, and supplies weapons, equipment, fuel, money and services to Ukraine, then .. .not only a mistake, but what is cooperation with terrorists called?

    If we forget about the truth (as all the well-founded accusations of Endogan of murder and terrorism have forgotten), and judge by falsehood, then this is a Triumph.!!!
    The oligarchs supply gas to NATO through the Turkish stream, Russia is building a nuclear power plant, ordering docks and ships there, is ready to sell the top-secret latest SU57 to a "strategic partner", the Aerospace Forces are calmly flying through Turkey to Syria, the military of the Russian Federation with the Turkish occupiers are patrolling areas of Syria together.

    Exactly Triumph. Moreover, the details (and they are the essence) will not be told to us. And money and power do not smell, as everyone knows.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 23 August 2022 07: 23
      According to this logic, the Minsk agreements, the recognition of the Natsiks as legitimate power and trade with them for 8 years, as well as the SVO that followed, are also a kind of "triumph".
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 23 August 2022 10: 38
        You yourself answered.
        For 8 years, the Russian Federation did not recognize the LDNR (despite the official power of the Russian EDRA there), on the 21st it recognized it, made speeches, and on the 24th, 3 days later, - broads, Z.
        So why were the LDNR and the Minsk agreements needed ???

        For Triumph. naturally!!!!

        The old, still Soviet concept of "dialectics". Now they try not to remember him ...
  7. Spasatel Offline Spasatel
    Spasatel 22 August 2022 22: 53
    Sale of S-400 air defense systems to Turkey: mistake or triumph of Russian foreign policy?

    Of course, a triumph!
    The triumph of our "multi-move" and "grand master" of foreign and domestic policy, the wisest "commander in chief", and at the same time the triumph of his best cadres: Shoigs, Chemezovs, Borisovs, Chubais, Manturovs and so on, so on, so on ...
    To make two and a half thousand million dollars and shove them into your pockets is a real, most triumphant triumph !!
  8. Vox_Populi Offline Vox_Populi
    Vox_Populi (vox populi) 23 August 2022 14: 12
    It remains only to hope

    Yes, all that remains is (cunning plans of the leadership, they are) ... winked
  9. Granthes Offline Granthes
    Granthes (George Anthel) 5 September 2022 20: 09

    In exchange for its approval, Ankara knocked out serious concessions on the Kurds from "respected partners", as well as US permission to purchase 40 Lockheed Martin F-16V Block 70 Viper fighters for $ 6 billion plus 80 upgrade kits for the F fighters already in service with the Turkish Air Force. -16 Block 70.

    - there were no concessions on the Kurds, and the Turks were sent with planes, the congress did not give permission, and imposed an embargo on everything military, the Turks are already using adhesive tape without spare parts.
  10. HattinGokbori87 Offline HattinGokbori87
    HattinGokbori87 9 September 2022 21: 03
    Ankara and Washington had a quarrel!

    They still quarrel with the USA. She still has sanctions on her head. Although Turkey's GDP growth in Europe is excellent, inflation has become unusually high (which has only recently become stable as the Turkish leader was unwilling to succumb to Western economic advice). Erdogan's party has openly accused the West of waging a secret economic war against Turkey to topple Erdogan (whom they failed to kill) once and for all.

    Nothing will prevent the Turkish government from transferring these schemes to the United States. It will not harm Ankara's defenses]

    There was such an offer from the United States to transfer S-400 units to them in exchange for readmission to the F-35 program and the supply of Patriot. Erdogan openly refused this offer and referred to his agreement with Russia. Turkey bought the system not for use in Syria, but for use against NATO aircraft. Either belong to the pro-US Deep State in Turkey; or against NATO aircraft of Greece or France. So yes, handing over this secret to the US would be detrimental to Turkey's defense. But yes. Everything can't change if they can finally remove Erdogan's Islamist party from power in the upcoming elections.
  11. Rinat Offline Rinat
    Rinat (Rinat) 3 October 2022 18: 20
    Sale of S-400 air defense systems to Turkey: mistake or triumph of Russian foreign policy?
    Time will tell. The time to sum up the final results has not yet come. In fact, we see that the Sultan hesitates and does not take an openly anti-Russian position. At the present time, this is already good. So the intermediate result is not tritsmf and not an error. It's just the right move.
    Why did Marzhetsky take this step to a triumph? Probably to promote and draw attention to your note.