Reuters: Russia began dismantling its aircraft for parts

August 9 2022 17

Russian airlines, including the state-controlled Aeroflot, are decommissioning jetliners in order to salvage spare parts that can no longer be purchased abroad due to Western sanctions. This is reported by Reuters, citing four industry sources.

These steps are in line with Russian government guidelines issued in June for airlines. The gist of the clarifications is a recommendation to use some aircraft to obtain spare parts to ensure that the remaining foreign-made aircraft can continue to fly until at least 2025.

Sanctions against Russia have prevented its airlines from getting spare parts or passing technical service in the West. At this point, at least one Russian Sukhoi Superjet 100 and Aeroflot-owned Airbus A350 have been on the ground for a long time and are being sorted out, one person familiar with the matter said.

The dismantled Airbus A350 was almost new, but in order to maintain the airworthiness of older aircraft, it had to be disassembled

- says the source of the agency, who wished to hide his name due to the sensitivity of the issue under discussion.

As noted by Reuters, so far the phenomenon of "cannibalism" in the Russian aviation industry is sporadic, rare. But with the passage of time and the effect of sanctions, the situation may worsen.

In addition, the Russian Sukhoi Superjet is also heavily dependent on foreign parts. By this point, one engine had already been removed from the new Russian-made jet to allow the other Superjet to continue flying. So said another agency informant in the industry.

In an attempt to prove the version put forward, Reuters refers to information from the Flightradar24 aircraft tracking database. According to them, 15% of the airliners (about 50 aircraft) from the Aeroflot fleet have not taken off since the end of July. This number includes three foreign-made Airbus A350 aircraft (which have not been operated for more than three months).

Concluding their analysis, Reuters reviewers gloatingly write that securing supplies from countries that have not imposed restrictions on Russia is unlikely to help, as companies from Asia and the Middle East fear the risk of secondary sanctions against them from Western governments. And any attempt to get around the restrictions can be easily detected, as major aircraft manufacturers have introduced a mandatory notification rule for the distribution of parts marked with a unique number.

So no one will agree to the delivery to the Russian Federation, neither China nor Dubai, because the entire path of the part must be known to Boeing and Airbus before each of them is delivered to the end user.

- summarized in Reuters.

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Michael L.

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9 August 2022 10: 43

And what: the funds previously allocated for the purchase of spare parts cannot be redirected to their production in the Russian Federation?
ont65

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9 August 2022 10: 56

With a limited resource, there is absolutely no point in such a disassembly, as in a panacea. More than a certain number of hours, the part, where you do not rearrange it, will not work even if it cracks. - The reliability of the news is questionable.
opportunist

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9 August 2022 11: 14

British media MI6
Alexey Davydov

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9 August 2022 11: 52

This is the tip of the iceberg.
The same problem is in industrial equipment and machine tools, in electronics, etc., etc.
It remains to cry over the ruined industry and the domestic market. This process, unfortunately, continues. The remaining high-tech industries, not focused on the final "market" product, go bankrupt. Primitive industries that do not participate in technological chains, such as the production of a certain building material, are born and replenish the statistics.
In aviation, it is dangerous to produce spare parts for other people's aircraft, because. without the manufacturer's data, it is impossible to fully and fully carry out a full cycle of their calculations, technology development, small-scale production, testing and internal certification. Hence the senselessness of investing in the production of counterfeit goods.
We need to produce our own planes. Spare parts for them are an integral part of the production process
1. Alexey Davydov
  
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  9 August 2022 12: 25
  
  Those who dismantled and continue to dismantle Russia are still in power. The sham multi-party system has perfectly adapted to this reality. Why do we not have a tool to control the actions of the authorities and economic entities? This is no longer our country. I think that in order to move from degradation to development, we need a single mass people's party that controls the country.
zuuukoo

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9 August 2022 12: 18

Quote: ont65
With a limited resource, there is absolutely no point in such a disassembly, as in a panacea. More than a certain number of hours, the part, where you do not rearrange it, will not work even if it cracks. - The reliability of the news is questionable.

There is no task to live on cannibalism forever.
Probably, they are only trying to stretch out 3-5-10 years until the delivery of Chinese aircraft, the start of domestic production or the easing of sanctions (which is the least likely).
In general, one gets the impression that so far, both in our country and in China, everything rests on the engines. And China is even worse with them than ours. However, time will tell.
Perhaps some of the domestic flights will be given to some "Turkish Airlines" (although the Federal Law will work out, taking into account the sanctions).
zuuukoo

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9 August 2022 12: 37

Quote: Alexey Davydov
It remains to cry over the ruined industry and the domestic market.

It is clear that a lot of things were buried, but in terms of industries there was nothing to bury (in microelectronics, there was a very strong backlog back in the USSR).
And even the USSR bought a lot "there". For example, many icebreakers were built in Finland, the "Eight" was brought to mind with the help of Porsche, etc.
And in general, the domestic market of 150 million people is too small to live on full self-sufficiency.
There is no completely self-sufficient country in the world today. Enter similar sanctions against "developed" Germany/Japan/France and everything will stop there too.
Even for the US, such sanctions would be very painful.
1. Alexey Davydov
  
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  9 August 2022 12: 56
  
  So we're just done. If we are not finished off earlier, as "goal".
  Enchanted circle. The authorities have been taking money from the country for 20 years and storing it in the West. There is no investment in production. There are no salaries and new jobs. There are no visible prospects for the country. Accordingly, the birth rate falls. And now the country does not have enough people for development. We are now at the end of this path. Further - or down into the abyss. Or up.
  If up, you will have to do everything yourself for the time being, without falling into dependence on easy, but dead-end decisions.
  Through the impossible - as our ancestors did more than once
zuuukoo

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9 August 2022 14: 18

Quote: Alexey Davydov
If up, you will have to do everything yourself for the time being, without falling into dependence on easy, but dead-end decisions.
Through the impossible - as our ancestors did more than once

In fact, our ancestors never did everything completely on their own. Not because we are worse than others, but because everyone has always and everywhere bought something and sold something.
Before entering the mines of the Urals, we did not make weapons and armor of good quality (there was no corny steel).
This perversion of "build without a single nail" reflects HOW our ancestors were bad with steel.

Ivan the Terrible bought "there" guns, firearms and, most importantly, specialists (including the military).

Peter the Great brought in specialists in bulk.
Catherine II even adopted a special resettlement program.

The industrialization of Stalin was on German and American machines and with the same involvement of specialists.
By the way, the first Soviet light cruisers were designed in Italy.
And destroyers of the "angry" type (the most massive destroyers of the USSR) were designed on the basis of Italian destroyers (but already with us).
Engines for the first Soviet jet fighters - based on Rolls-Royce engines.

No one says that you need to lay down your hands and just sell timber and oil. But it is also physically impossible to live on full self-sufficiency.
1. Michael L.
  
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  9 August 2022 18: 49
  
  Nobody speaks
  
  Not true!
  This is just the favorite song of the pro-Western liberals: "you need to lay down your hands and just sell timber and oil" - "and we will buy everything for dollars"!
vdr5

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9 August 2022 14: 36

The flight fleet situation will only get worse. In 10 years it may stabilize, but not a fact. A modern airliner is a very technologically intensive thing, even the United States cannot afford to be 100 percent localized. Liners produced in the Russian Federation will be very expensive and unequivocally inferior in quality to world manufacturers using global cooperation. Along the way, I think the Russian Federation will not master this task and will switch to importing Chinese cars, for example.
1. Alexey Davydov
  
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  9 August 2022 16: 49
  
  Obliged to master. This is a driver for the revival of the domestic manufacturing economy, high-tech jobs, the rise of entire "bunches" from technological chains - one of the components of our bright future. In fact, this is a bifurcation point, a choice of the future fate of the country and a place in the future. You can pay for this with profitability at first.
  It is better to rid the industry and the country of the burden of corruption
2. House 25 Sq. 380
  
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  10 August 2022 16: 03
  
  Liners produced in the Russian Federation will be very expensive and unambiguously inferior in quality to global manufacturers using global cooperation
  
  If foreign manufacturers do not sell their aircraft to Russia, what difference does it make, what will be their price?
Vova Zhelyabov

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9 August 2022 18: 05

In Russia, the certification of modern civil aircraft IL-114, MS-21 and Superjet with domestic composite wings, efficient and economical engines, modern ground services and advanced avionics is completed. There are only a few months left before the start of mass production and saturation of the airlines' operational fleet (more than 1000 aircraft by 2030).
zuuukoo

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9 August 2022 20: 46

Quote: Vova Zhelyabov
There are only a few months left before the start of serial production and saturation of the airlines' operating fleet (more than 1000 aircraft by 2030).

In 2015, the Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces reported that from 2017 to 2020, 55 Su-57s would be put into operation.
In 2018, the Deputy Minister of Defense announced the signing of a contract for the supply of 132 armats by the end of 2021.
Serial production of the MS-21 was going to begin in 2021.

So maybe you should watch Channel 1 a little less. Or at least a little more critically perceive the brave statements of our import substitutes about the next "analogues".
1. House 25 Sq. 380
  
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  10 August 2022 16: 04
  
  Serial production of the MS-21 was going to begin in 2021.
  
  What composite materials? Own or imported?
Vova Zhelyabov

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11 August 2022 01: 09

As a warning to fools, I would cover these planes with Sunbakers.