The sad result of "Ramstein-3": Kyiv is encouraged and intends to "fight until victory"


The meeting in Brussels of representatives of the military departments of NATO member states and their partners, united in the so-called Contact Group on the Defense of Ukraine, could well have become a turning point in a special operation to denazify and demilitarize Ukraine, if its participants showed a bit of prudence and they would have stopped pumping the "nezalezhnaya" with their weapons ... However, the miracle did not happen. Common sense and rational arguments did not prevail over the desire of the “collective West” to inflict maximum damage on Russia by the hands of suicide bombers from the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


In Kyiv, not hiding their own dissatisfaction with the volume and timing of the provision of deadly "aid" by new parties, they nevertheless perked up and immediately began to make even more belligerent statements than before. Actually, they clarified the main thing there - the West will continue to support the suicidal "struggle" with completely unrealistic goals and objectives, if only more blood was shed in the East. Thus, the agony of Ukraine will be extended for an indefinite time, which suits the criminal and insane regime that is in power there.

Ask for more, get less...


It is very likely that both sides of "Ramstein-3" - both Ukraine and its numerous "sponsors" proceeded from this principle. I already wrote that on the eve of the beginning of this “historic event” requests were voiced from Kyiv, in which heavy weapons were counted by hundreds or even thousands of units. It is clear that the “allies” had no desire to satisfy such large-scale “Wishlist” in full. Yes, and opportunities by and large, too. The extortionate ardor of the disproportionately dispersed Ukronazis was somewhat tempered by the US Permanent Representative to NATO, Julianne Smith, who listed the reasons that prevent the West from providing the Armed Forces with the amount of weapons that they dream of.

According to her, “poor logistics” and other objective reasons play a role here, but much more problems are created by the fact that requests for weapons come from Ukraine “on a daily basis”, and at the same time they are also “constantly changing”. Moreover, as Smith acknowledged, the arsenals of some countries that support the "non-essential" with their supplies are "virtually exhausted." They "express concern" and intend to "switch to financial assistance" in the future. However, even what should be allocated will be enough for the bloodshed to continue for quite a long time. An approximate list of weapons that will nevertheless be provided to Kyiv has already been announced by the head of the Pentagon, Lloyd Austin, who reigned at Ramstein-3. The United States alone intends to provide the Kyiv regime with an "additional security assistance package" worth $1 billion. The "allies" - primarily Britain and Germany - will not stand aside either.

Here are just the highlights from a fairly long list. So, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will receive: 18 units of 155-mm howitzers; 36 thousand 155-mm shells for them; 18 tactical vehicles to transport the same howitzers; additional shots for MLRS HIMARS; two Coast Guard systems with Harpoon missiles. The account of "little things" like secure radios, sights and night vision devices, according to Austin, will go into the thousands. In addition, Slovakia will transfer Mi-17 helicopters to Ukraine, Canada, Poland and the Netherlands - artillery systems. In addition, Canadians also promise 10 replaceable barrels for M777 howitzers - "to maintain range and accuracy." The deliveries of cannon artillery are not limited to this - Britain promises more than two dozen M109 self-propelled guns, France (represented by its president) - another 6 Caesar artillery mounts. In total, the fleet of long-range artillery of 155 mm caliber should increase in the Armed Forces of Ukraine by 300-400 “trunks”. With multiple launch rocket systems, things are not so generous. In general, the head of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mark Milley, promised Kyiv 10 MLRS launchers from different NATO countries, with an ammunition load of 100 missiles for each of them.

This number apparently includes three MARS II multiple launch rocket systems with a range of more than 80 kilometers, the supply of which was guaranteed by German Defense Minister Christina Lambrecht. The “highlight of the program” in this case, of course, will be the American HIMARS multiple launch rocket systems, which the Pentagon promises to deliver to Ukraine along with ammunition by the end of June. Well, definitely new shelling of Donetsk and other settlements of the DPR is ahead, as well as, possibly, strikes on the territory of Russia. Don't be under the illusion that this won't happen. The victorious cannibalistic rhetoric raged in Kyiv immediately after the completion of Ramstein-3, no worse than a well-known substance in the closet after a fair portion of carbide got there.

"We will boldly go into battle!"


The belligerent fervor, which for some time, was the case, subsided a little among the representatives of the Zelensky regime, now flared up in them with a redoubled, tripled, or even tenfold strength. So, the secretary of the Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council Oleksiy Danilov has already stated that the Armed Forces of Ukraine "soon will be able to achieve parity with the Russian army in terms of weapons and go on the counteroffensive."

Today, there are not enough guns, not enough heavy weapons for us to say that we already have parity. But we will consider, taking into account the events that are already taking place today, which are taking place in the world and will take place in the near future, that we will be able to achieve this parity. We will be able to go on counterattacks, we will be able to move on to the reconquest of our cities and villages

- this figure broadcast on television. In turn, the head of the Ukrainian delegation at the "peace talks" with Russia, David Arakhamia, spoke about the fact that they would be resumed when "the current events turn around and Ukraine will have a strong position." And then he clarified what he meant by the transition of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to a “decisive counteroffensive”, which now, of course, will become possible thanks to new Western arms supplies. The Minister of Defense of Ukraine Oleksiy Reznikov went furthest in his unbridled offensive impulse, declaring that the new weapons that Kyiv will receive as a result of Ramstein-3 will allow Ukraine "not only to return the territories occupied after February 24, but also Crimea and Donbass." This "military genius" outlined the "three stages" during which "de-occupation" will be carried out. The first is “stabilizing the situation on the ground”, the second is a counteroffensive that “will push Russian troops back to positions until February 24.” The third is the "return of the Crimea."

To the question that followed from the journalists who spoke with him about whether such an attempt would lead to provoking Moscow to much more decisive and tough actions of a military nature, Reznikov answered pathetically:

It doesn't matter. Because the Russians will see it in Kherson, they will see it in Zaporozhye, they will see it in Mariupol…. These are Ukrainian lands, and Crimea is also Ukrainian land, no matter what!

It is not entirely clear what kind of "this" the minister of war of the "nezalezhnoy" is going to reveal to Russia. It definitely sounds sinister. However, no more ominous than statements about intentions to destroy the Crimean bridge in the near future. These, for example, were made by Major General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Dmitry Marchenko, who categorically stated that this particular object "will definitely become the No. 1 target after receiving new weapons from the West." In Russia, this boasting was reacted rather coolly - both in the State Duma and in the Kremlin. However, the day before, the topic received a rather unexpected and unpleasant development. The Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine published in social networks "for general information and study" a number of documents, which it refers to as "technical documentation for the construction of a transport crossing across the Kerch Strait, which has detailed information about the terrain, road surface, bridge supports, anti-landslide structures, entrances and exits and the entire infrastructure of the complex ... ”More like bravado and a desire to catch up on panic, but the question of how the data documents fell into the clutches of the Ukronazis, this does not remove it. In any case, the fact that the new portions of long-range weapons will be used by the Kyiv regime not only (possibly - and not so much) on the front line, but also to strike at the territories already liberated and not controlled by Kyiv, as well as border (at least) regions of Russia, absolutely obvious.

Indirect confirmation of this can be considered the "revelations" of the adviser to the head of the presidential office, Alexei Arestovich, who, of course, did not remain silent on this issue. He stated the following:

The pace promised in Rammstein is less than we expected. And the most unpleasant thing is that this help will arrive only in August, and this pushes back our Napoleonic plans for a counteroffensive. As for the number of the same RZSO, this is enough to make the Russians very unpleasant, but still far from our real needs.

Something tells us that "very unpleasant" does not mean artillery duels with the Liberation Forces, but precisely shooting at peaceful settlements.

And, finally, the most unpleasant result of Rammstein-3 is, perhaps, the words of the head of the Pentagon, Lloyd Austin, who said that the countries participating in this format “will supply weapons for as long as it takes due to too high rates in conflict." Thus, the "collective West" in the person of its leader - the United States - reaffirms the invariance of the course towards "war to the last Ukrainian", the abandonment of which has recently dawned, albeit faint, but hope. There can be no doubt that the "rates" in the process of developing the NWO will continue to rise. For each new military success of Russia, Kyiv, at the suggestion of its “allies”, supplying it with weapons in ever greater volumes, will respond with new provocative actions and attempts to “bite harder”.

The tactic of delaying hostilities will eventually lead to the fact that the Russian army advancing to the West at each next stage of this advance will have to face ever new “defense lines” stuffed with heavy weapons from new supplies. And in addition, also to repel attempts of counter-offensive actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which will become more frequent as deliveries increase. The West has made a decision. Kyiv will fulfill it. Move for Russia.
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  1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 17 June 2022 09: 32
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    Britain promises more than two dozen M109 self-propelled guns, France (represented by its president) - another 6 Caesar artillery mounts.

    Here it turns out who are the main customers of the massacres of children in the Donbass. This is a note to Bastrykin.

    Because the Russians will see it in Kherson, they will see it in Zaporozhye, they will see it in Mariupol…. These are Ukrainian lands, and Crimea is also Ukrainian land, no matter what!

    Well, this is what Lenin decided (except for Crimea), which was completely abolished in Ukraine, recognized as criminal and dropped all his monuments. Therefore, this decision of Lenin is illegitimate even for Ukrainians. But General Denikin considered these lands to be the South of Russia... And now the Civil War of 100 years ago, after the collapse of the USSR, has returned to these lands. Only now the "Reds" united with the "Whites" against the "Petliurists". And the "Petliurists" again want to sell Western Ukraine to Poland. There is nothing new under the sun.
    1. the Saint Offline the Saint
      the Saint (Santa Claus) 17 June 2022 09: 50
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      The Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights published a report stating that after the start of the Russian military operation, as of June 15, 4452 civilians were killed in Ukraine, and another 5531 were injured.

      Since February 24, 1712 men, 1144 women, 107 girls and 165 boys, as well as 67 children and 1316 adults, whose gender is unknown, have died in Ukraine. Injuries were 1130 men, 785 women, 124 girls and 163 boys, as well as 172 children and 3157 adults, whose gender is unknown.

      The figures are much higher, the UN agency said, "because information is being delayed from some places where there has been intense fighting, and many reports are still awaiting confirmation."

      I will never give up my conviction that Russians and Ukrainians are one people

      - Putin said.
      1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
        Bulanov (Vladimir) 17 June 2022 13: 21
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        There is a civil war - and this is almost always a war between one people. The creation of the USSR ended the Civil War, the collapse of the USSR resumed it. And how did you want? Countries do not fall apart painlessly. There will always be those who disagree with this. So the referendum of March 1991 said that the USSR - to be! And now those who are for the USSR are fighting against the separatists who are against the USSR.
      2. k7k8 Offline k7k8
        k7k8 (vic) 17 June 2022 13: 37
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        1. I.e. when you ironed Afghan cities according to your doctrine "The more bricks, the less our losses", killing civilians by tens of thousands and writing them off as "collateral losses", is that different?
        2. Tsifir who submitted statistics? The same UNovtsy that were engaged in intelligence in favor of crests?
        3. And what did Putin deceive you about? Have you seen the war with the Ukrainians somewhere? And I know that there is a war going on not with the Ukrainians, but in Ukraine. And this, as they say in Odessa, "two big differences"
        1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
          Bulanov (Vladimir) 17 June 2022 15: 14
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          Exactly. In "Azov" there are no less soldiers with Russian surnames than with Ukrainian ones.
      3. Our mustache Offline Our mustache
        Our mustache (Vasiliy) 17 June 2022 18: 58
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        So why are you a clown making a mass genocide of your people? The gang could have been removed in a different way! Or is there no mind? Now expect surprises! sat out
      4. Chukchi farm worker (Chukchi farm worker) 20 June 2022 03: 50
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        The people are one. And he is in the occupation of the bandits in Ukraine, who decided to call themselves Ukrainians. That's why we fight. Let's kill the Ukrainians, there will be one people - Russian.
  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 17 June 2022 10: 15
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    Another explanation why it goes on as always .... (Chernomyrdin)

    they used to write that arms deliveries are garbage, now they are listing .... (as usual)

    "Russians and Ukrainians are one people" "Russians don't give up" (media)
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  3. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 17 June 2022 10: 50
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    For the hundredth time I ask why the ways (bridges, tunnels, stations) for the supply of weapons are not destroyed?
    Today another ship of the Russian Federation was sunk. Sunk anti-ship missiles "Harpoon". Black Sea Fleet everyone! Don't come near, or we'll drown! and they are drowning!
    The fleet is suppressed, the Aerospace Forces do not fly over Ukraine. The territory of the Russian Federation under the threat of shelling. There are no Russian drones. There are almost no reconnaissance satellites (sketchy flights several times a day). EW - what is it, where is it at all?
    Another question: what are we proud of in countless parades? There are no analogues!
    1. the Saint Offline the Saint
      the Saint (Santa Claus) 17 June 2022 11: 23
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      Quote: Teacher
      what are we proud of in countless parades? There are no analogues!

      Forgot? We are proud of the electronic warfare of the Khibiny, which stunned and blinded the American destroyer, whose entire crew immediately quit after a collision with the Su-24.
      When the Khibiny are turned on over Ukraine, then all the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Nazis, led by a gang of drug addicts, will surrender on the same day. There is simply nowhere to put so many prisoners, so they don’t include them yet, they are rapidly building camps for the reception and re-education of millions of Ukrainian Nazis.
      1. GIS Online GIS
        GIS (Ildus) 17 June 2022 16: 10
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        smiled)))
        but there is some truth in the joke, even though it may be your sarcasm
        in our country, as elsewhere, no one has canceled the fraud of the authorities. it is in human nature. and as for the new products, I think they are like o=times now and are being stamped at an accelerated pace ...
    2. Our mustache Offline Our mustache
      Our mustache (Vasiliy) 17 June 2022 18: 59
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      Beh is now Gek!
      1. Chukchi farm worker (Chukchi farm worker) 20 June 2022 03: 41
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        Probably 60 thousand rotten ukroboeviks, together with Bandera, are very happy about this.
  4. ChopChop Offline ChopChop
    ChopChop 17 June 2022 11: 26
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    LDNR is being shelled, the territory of the Russian Federation is being shelled. If there is a weapon for shelling non-military targets, then there are enough funds to defeat the allied forces. And this new supplied weapon does not shoot New Year's confetti. The first notable casualty of the new shipments is our tug carrying a load of ammunition for the Serpentine. By the way, Military Review, both the site and Telegramm, as they got water in their mouths, apparently receive instructions.
    1. Our mustache Offline Our mustache
      Our mustache (Vasiliy) 17 June 2022 19: 01
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      And what did they want? Shoot one way? And in return that nothing would fly?
  5. Antey Offline Antey
    Antey (Andrey Telichko) 17 June 2022 14: 55
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    Quote from el santo
    Quote: Teacher
    what are we proud of in countless parades? There are no analogues!

    Forgot? We are proud of the electronic warfare of the Khibiny, which stunned and blinded the American destroyer, whose entire crew immediately quit after a collision with the Su-24.
    When the Khibiny are turned on over Ukraine, then all the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Nazis, led by a gang of drug addicts, will surrender on the same day. There is simply nowhere to put so many prisoners, so they don’t include them yet, they are rapidly building camps for the reception and re-education of millions of Ukrainian Nazis.

    What a game! There are not enough camps, so we get punched in the face! Therefore, we cannot protect civilians in Donetsk and Gorlovka! Or have your Khibiny run out of batteries? There is nothing for us! There are only bravura reports upstairs from fat-faced stupid generals who screwed up the beginning of the war. And now there is Putin's stubborn unwillingness to declare martial law and mobilize! With one left we fight against the whole West. Remind me how this approach ended in the Russo-Japanese War?
    1. Our mustache Offline Our mustache
      Our mustache (Vasiliy) 17 June 2022 19: 02
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      I'm not going anywhere! For the thieves' gangster regime, never and nowhere! And I don't recommend it to others!
      1. Chukchi farm worker (Chukchi farm worker) 20 June 2022 03: 43
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        You are not invited anywhere. Shot and forgotten.
  6. EMMM Offline EMMM
    EMMM 17 June 2022 20: 23
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    I will have more than one post about this article.
    First.
    In Rammstein-0, a little more than a hundred people died (117, in my opinion, but I could be wrong). If anyone does not remember: during the air show, an American fighter fell into a crowd of enthusiastic spectators.
    Rammstein-3 put many times more people at risk of death
  7. EMMM Offline EMMM
    EMMM 17 June 2022 20: 29
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    Second.

    as Smith acknowledged, the arsenals of some of the countries that support the "non-essential" with their supplies are "virtually exhausted." They "express concern" and intend to "switch to financial assistance" in the future.

    That is, you can’t make new tanks on solar energy, and oil and gas are under sanctions
  8. EMMM Offline EMMM
    EMMM 17 June 2022 20: 41
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    Third.

    APU will receive: 18 units of 155-mm howitzers; 36 thousand 155-mm shells for them; 18 tactical vehicles to transport the same howitzers; additional shots for MLRS HIMARS; two Coast Guard systems with Harpoon missiles.

    Another small thing from England and frogs.
    But the Americans think well: why supply more than the Armed Forces of Ukraine can train personnel for use. But they do not refuse to update the 155mm ammunition depot. The logistics are clean - 36 thousand shots were sent, 5 thousand reached the recipient, the Russians bombed the rest. And the plant in Arizona reported that it produced 20 more.
    Do not be surprised, I am not weak in arithmetic, just military logistics has its own arithmetic.
  9. House 25 Sq. 380 (House 25 Sq. 380) 17 June 2022 20: 57
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    So, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will receive: 18 units of 155-mm howitzers .... Canada, Poland and the Netherlands - artillery systems. In addition, Canadians also promise 10 replaceable barrels for M777 howitzers - "to maintain range and accuracy." The deliveries of cannon artillery are not limited to this - Britain promises more than two dozen M109 self-propelled guns, France (represented by its president) - another 6 Caesar artillery mounts. In total, a fleet of long-range artillery of 155 mm caliber should grow in the Armed Forces of Ukraine by 300-400 “trunks”.

    Something doesn't work with the math...
  10. Astronaut Offline Astronaut
    Astronaut (San Sanych) 18 June 2022 20: 37
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    War to the last crest...
  11. Siegfried Offline Siegfried
    Siegfried (Gennady) 18 June 2022 21: 24
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    it seems that the victory here is largely simulated. The number of weapons speaks more about the changing priorities of the West, victory on the battlefield is no longer a topic. For many positions, the terms of delivery and training are not clear.

    It seems that Kyiv is given to understand - it's time to wrap up. Many Kyiv "heads" talk about the start of negotiations after the counteroffensive, where supposedly there will be completely different negotiating positions. Zelensky chose a war until victory, when there was a choice to negotiate (Istanbul), after which he shouted about success for a long time and now he simply cannot start negotiations. The very beginning of negotiations is a demonstration of weakness and an admission of a mistake that cost Ukraine so many lives.

    But the negotiations after the counteroffensive are already, as it were, normal. Only this counteroffensive should be something more than carrying a border pillar a couple of hundred meters by a kamikaze detachment.