Is a military coup possible in Ukraine?


Recently, the topic of the conflict between the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Zaluzhny and the Supreme Commander-in-Chief Zelensky has been actively dispersed in the Russian and Ukrainian media and the blogosphere. Say, things are going almost to a military coup in Kyiv. How realistic is all this, and can Moscow somehow use this situation to its advantage?


Another reason to talk about this topic was given by President Lukashenko, who made a very resonant statement:

Poland - you see - both here and there: we will accept refugees, and we will not accept them, and give money, and through us money to Ukraine. We have already agreed that they are ready to chop off Western Ukraine. It won't work to pull off. Already in Ukraine, according to my information, a serious confrontation and conflict begins between Zelensky and the Ukrainian military…
The military, like no one else, understands what a conflict with Russia is. Soldiers are dying there. They see what they are capable of and how much they can fight. And they can't fight anymore. You see, Russia has changed tactics.


A few days earlier, Alexander Grigoryevich spoke about the successful operation of the Belarusian KGB, which was able to rescue its citizens from Ukrainian captivity. That is, the special services of the Republic of Belarus work on the territory of Nezalezhnaya, keep their finger on the pulse and control the situation. What is the conflict between the military and the political leadership in Kyiv?

The Colonel's Conspiracy?


The root of the problem is that after the Maidan in 2014, Ukraine lost its sovereignty and came under complete external control. Initially, the Americans and Europeans ruled everything there, but now the first violin has passed to the British, whom Washington let ahead of itself, and the Poles, who are already being used by London as a promising anti-Russian ram. It is this factor that determines the essence of the intra-Ukrainian conflict at the top.

Professional military see their task as protecting, as it seems to them, the territorial integrity of their state. Foreign curators who give orders directly to the puppet President Zelensky see the objectives of Ukraine's war with Russia somewhat differently. London and Washington determine the tactics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in such a way as to inflict maximum damage on the RF Armed Forces and achieve the maximum possible destruction of the infrastructure of those territories where our military enters. They don't give a damn about the lives of Ukrainians from a high tower. Warsaw is also interested in weakening the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which can make it easier for it to enter Western Ukraine as part of a "peacekeeping mission." Hence the conflict between President Zelensky, who is broadcasting the Anglo-Polish agenda through a narcotic dope, and the General Staff.

It is impossible to explain anything else, meaningless from a military point of view, attempts by the Armed Forces of Ukraine to seize Zmeiny Island, hold Mariupol to the last and sit all the way in Severodonetsk. A few days ago, it became known about the order of the command to withdraw Ukrainian troops from the rapidly emerging Lisichansk-Severodonetsk "cauldron", but then the Armed Forces of Ukraine received the opposite order, and their grouping in this agglomeration was strengthened. There is no point in this, except to “heroically” die in the ruins of cities, taking with them an N-th number of “peaceful people” who did not have time or could not evacuate, and the military personnel of the RF Armed Forces and the People’s Militia of the LPR, no. Zelensky's curators use the Armed Forces of Ukraine as "cannon fodder".

This is the essence of the conflict. The Ukrainian military understands that they are being sent to "kill themselves against the Russian army." Ukrainian nationalists and Nazis see that the new-found union between Kyiv and Warsaw can lead to the loss of not only the South-East, but also Western Ukraine, which will eventually go to Poland. The Ukrainian media are actively promoting the figure of Commander-in-Chief Valery Zaluzhny, who is positioned as a caring father-commander in opposition to President Zelensky, who is incompetent in military matters. Does this mean that a putsch is planned, like a “conspiracy of colonels” in the Third Reich, when high-ranking German military officers tried to overthrow Adolf Hitler, who led the country to inevitable defeat?

No.

Not our Bonaparte


At first glance, such an outcome would be preferable for Russia. Say, the Ukrainian generals and colonels themselves have been overthrown by Zelensky’s “narco-regime” and, realizing the futility of further resistance, will agree to a cessation of hostilities and a deal with Moscow. How can one not recall the calls of President Putin to the Armed Forces of Ukraine to take power into their own hands, as well as rumors about a certain “fifth column” in Kyiv, for the sake of which the initial rush to the Ukrainian capital was made?

But, alas, everything is not so simple. It should be taken into account that the British-American intelligence services tightly entangled all spheres of life in Western-occupied Ukraine. The apex coup, if the Kremlin really relied on it, was stopped by them, which may be the reason for the flight of a number of high-ranking security officials from Nezalezhnaya in the early days of the North Military District. Viktor Medvedchuk, who, apparently, was assigned the role of "supreme ruler", was promptly caught and put in the basement. President Zelensky himself is guarded by English-speaking thugs. What the hell is a military coup?

All high-ranking Ukrainian military men are undoubtedly under the hood, and all their "whispering" is carefully recorded. Under supervision are the families of generals and colonels, acting as hostages. Surely some of them have their own “alternate airfield” somewhere in the West in the form of real estate and bank accounts acquired by overwork, which it would be a pity to lose. And where to run if the putsch fails, to Russia or something, to court? And let's not forget that the Ukrainian media, where the image of Commander-in-Chief Zaluzhny is being promoted so much, is also tightly controlled by Western intelligence services.

Why are they promoting? Perhaps in order to have a counterbalance to Zelensky in Ukraine. When the incumbent president fulfills the tasks assigned to him, he can be “drained”, recalling his drug addiction, blaming him for all military failures, the loss of the South-East and the surrender of the western regions of the country to Poland. And he will be replaced by the popular General Zaluzhny, who will have to continue the “fight against the orcs” with renewed vigor.

In general, the military putsch in Kyiv will not give Russia anything good. However, Moscow can still work to undermine the Armed Forces of Ukraine from within, destroying them not only on the battlefield. At present, a new life is beginning to emerge in the already liberated territories of the Kherson and southern Zaporozhye regions, and the contrast with what is happening in the rest of the Nezalezhnaya region is not in favor of the latter. In the medium and long term, this can be a very good demotivator for Ukrainians. A powerful PR move could also be the creation of the Liberation Army of Ukraine in the Azov region, where servicemen and officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who voluntarily surrendered after careful filtering can go. Perhaps, militarily, this force will not be great, but from the point of view of the media component for the Ukrainian army, which is fighting from the opposite side, it will be the strongest demotivator.

In the battles for Donbass, the best personnel units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the most ideological Nazis will be knocked out, and the mobilized recruits are not particularly eager to fight. We must give them an alternative to choose from: simply surrender or continue to fight shoulder to shoulder with the Russian army. This is what we can really do to split the enemy Armed Forces from within.
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  1. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Boris) 5 June 2022 10: 33
    +1
    If Ze gets along with the SBU, there will be no coup. Not the military, but the Nazis, who have settled in the SBU, may be the only real force in Ukraine, coupled with American "advisers"
  2. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 June 2022 10: 41
    -1
    A powerful PR move could also be the creation of the Liberation Army of Ukraine in the Azov region, where servicemen and officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who voluntarily surrendered after careful filtering can go.

    Another "idea" of a sofa adviser.
    a) Who will lead this army?
    Is there any military figure known to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and respected there? At the same time, she was captured and agreed to lead the AOU.
    B) Are there currently a sufficient number of captured soldiers and officers ready to join such an army?
    C) How to carry out this thorough filtering?
    D) What to promise those who agree to fight against their own? New updated Ukraine? She won't be. Neither new nor old. Then why should they fight?
  3. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 June 2022 10: 56
    +1
    I would suggest another PR action.

    A) Hang all captured foreign mercenaries.
    That is, do not delve into the details, but hang all the foreigners who came to fight on the side of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    B) Carefully ascertain the participation of prisoners in war crimes. Those who committed atrocities - hang. With the publication in the media - who was hanged and for what.
    C) Find out who gave orders, who carried out orders to shell civilians. Those who got caught - hang with explanations for what.
    Those who have not yet been caught or those for whom there are still questions - put it on a special list and publish it. Set a reward for the heads of those convicted in absentia. When captured - the same capital punishment.

    Let the world know what awaits the criminals from the Armed Forces of Ukraine, national battalions and foreign mercenaries.

    Well, I hope that the Russian special services keep lists of those foreigners who are involved in the transfer of weapons for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Moreover, these lists should include the names from Biden to a petty Polish figure who participated in the supply of weapons to the territory of the b. Ukraine. Then, if possible, to reward everyone according to their merits.

    Nobody is forgotten, nothing is forgotten - it should work both ways.
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 5 June 2022 12: 58
      -4
      Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      A) Hang all captured foreign mercenaries.

      A) You forget that they also have our prisoners. We can run into mirroring.
      B) See point A
      B) See point A

      Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      Let the world know what awaits the criminals from the Armed Forces of Ukraine, national battalions and foreign mercenaries.

      Do you think that Russia no longer has a reputation and you can go all out?

      Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      Well, I hope that the Russian special services keep lists of those foreigners who are involved in the transfer of weapons for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Moreover, these lists should include the names from Biden to a petty Polish figure who participated in the supply of weapons to the territory of the b. Ukraine. Then, if possible, to reward everyone according to their merits.

      Funny

      Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      Nobody is forgotten, nothing is forgotten - it should work both ways.

      Great words. You would do well to remember them too.
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 June 2022 17: 29
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        You forget that they also have our prisoners. We can run into mirroring.

        Let's analyze specularity.

        A) foreign mercenaries.
        For b. Ukraine is all those who have a passport of another country. For Russia, these are those who do not have Russian citizenship (or citizenship of the DPR, LPR).
        Judging by the information I have, the ratio will be 100:1. Taking into account the number of prisoners on the sides - 1200 to one. So foreign mercenaries of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - run to the gallows!
        b) War crimes.
        It doesn't matter which side. Everyone must answer for their crimes.
        All things considered, 120 to one. Welcome to the scaffold - war criminals!
        C) shelling of civilians. Everything here is very bad for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. For the ninth year, the ukrofascists have been spoiling their karma. 12000 to one.

        Knowing the meanness of the ukrovoyak, one can expect that they will begin to hang prisoners simply out of revenge. As well as all those suspected of sympathizing with the Russian Federation. It's sad, but inevitable. They still kill and torture our prisoners. And not one Olezhek does not require to mirror their actions.

        Those involved in the illegal execution of the Russian military will also be hanged. They checked, established the illegality of the actions of the Kiev-Lviv executioners - try on the shit-eater's noose.
        And after - ours already have every right to mirror. Choose from prisoners - Nazis and other volunteers and mirror 20-30 creatures for each innocently killed Russian soldier.
        1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 June 2022 17: 41
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          The denazification of Germany began with the Nuremberg trials, after which many war criminals were hanged. We will start the denazification of Europe with the Donetsk process.
          1. Awaz Offline Awaz
            Awaz (Walery) 5 June 2022 18: 11
            -2
            I am tormented by vague doubts that the Nazis hanged after Nuremberg were the very ones who had to be hanged. Well, yes, they deserved the gallows, but it’s obvious that they were a tool, and those who pulled the strings and remained alive and raked in all the goodies for themselves. Now you are calling for a repeat. Well, these Englishmen and a couple of officers of Azov will be hanged, but they are a tool and those who nurtured and financed them and promoted them will not suffer in any way, they will also raise the dough on this. The same Ze is also unlikely to ever answer for all crimes, just like Poroshenko, but they are also intermediaries ... Unfortunately, the Russian authorities have made heaps of huge jambs and mistakes, and not only in the military scheme, but also in general in various topics of external and domestic policy and all the problems that arise come primarily from the jambs of our authorities. Their inadequate and inexplicable policy continues even in the current situation, when everyone has already begun to openly play and not be shy or pretend, but the continuing desire to please the "partners" or something to save their own that was stolen and suddenly, squeezed out by the same "partners" "can lead to disaster.
            The regime in Kyiv should have been recognized as terrorist already in 14 and nothing had to be done with them. Even now it is not too late to admit it, but you yourself see our authorities are trying again to negotiate with the terrorists. This is no gate.
            1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 June 2022 18: 33
              +1
              Now you are calling for a repeat.

              Yes. As the first, but not the last step.
            2. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 June 2022 18: 39
              +1
              in various topics of foreign and domestic policy, and all the problems that arise come primarily from the jambs of our authorities

              Strongly disagree. Yes, there are and will be mistakes.
              But conflicts arise from the fact that different parties have different interests.
              And what do you propose to consider the authorities of our enemies impeccable? Like they are doing everything right (yeah, in whose interests is it right?), And ours are constantly messing up.
              Yes, our enemies are constantly trying to convince the public: "Russians are barbarians, and we are perfection itself!"
              1. Awaz Offline Awaz
                Awaz (Walery) 5 June 2022 19: 03
                0
                it is not so .. Making mistakes to achieve some goal is one thing, but when the authorities themselves do not know what they want .. and as a result we have what we see. I can write a whole opera here, but let's just go back three months and listen to what our supreme authorities said in the first days of the special operation and a week after the start, well, compare it with what it is now. People are afraid of us because there is no understandable and clear line of conduct. By the way, the West (collective) has a very clear and direct policy: to rob those who can, and if it doesn’t work, then we destroy and continue to rob. And in relations with them, it’s like in a zone, if once you give up slack, then that’s it - write it down and your reputation will never be washed off ..
        2. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 5 June 2022 21: 59
          -1
          Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
          Let's analyze specularity.

          Let's

          Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
          A) foreign mercenaries.

          How to distinguish a mercenary from a volunteer? According to the international convention against the recruitment, use, financing and training of mercenaries adopted by General Assembly resolution 44/34 on December 4, 1989

          Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
          For the purposes of this Convention:
          1. The term “mercenary” means any person who:
          ...
          (b) in taking part in hostilities is motivated primarily by a desire for personal gain and who is in fact promised by, or on behalf of, a party to the conflict, a material reward substantially in excess of that promised or paid to combatants of the same rank and function included in the personal the composition of the armed forces of that party;
          (c) is neither a national of a Party to the conflict nor a permanent resident in territory controlled by a Party to the conflict;
          ...
          2. The term "mercenary" also means any person who, in any other situation:
          (a) Specially recruited locally or abroad to participate in joint violent activities aimed at:
          i) overthrowing the government or otherwise undermining the constitutional order of the state; or
          ii) undermining the territorial integrity of the state;
          b) in taking part in such activities, is motivated primarily by the desire to obtain significant personal gain and which is motivated to do so by the promise of payment or the payment of material reward;
          ...

          You will have to prove that they received much more money in the same positions than the citizens of Ukraine. Otherwise, they are volunteers. By the way, volunteers from the Russian Federation as part of the armed formations of the LPR DPR, which category do you belong to?

          Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
          b) War crimes.

          What is 1 to 120? Where did you get it from? Usually in a civil conflict, the parties stand against each other. There is no indication that this is not 1 to 1.

          Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
          C) shelling of civilians. Everything here is very bad for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. For the ninth year, the ukrofascists have been spoiling their karma. 12000 to one.

          https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5391293?
          https://iz.ru/1295778/2022-02-23/v-sk-rossii-nazvali-obshchee-chislo-pogibshikh-v-donbasse-mirnykh-zhitelei

          Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
          Knowing the meanness of the ukrovoyak, one can expect that they will begin to hang prisoners simply out of revenge.

          If you start hanging their prisoners, they will undoubtedly begin. Violence breeds violence. It certainly doesn't work the other way around. wink

          Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
          They still kill and torture our prisoners. And not one Olezhek does not require to mirror their actions.

          You just don't read the Ukrainian media.

          Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
          Those involved in the illegal execution of the Russian military will also be hanged. They checked, established the illegality of the actions of the Kiev-Lviv executioners - try on the shit-eater's noose.

          Russia has a moratorium on the death penalty.

          Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
          And after - ours already have every right to mirror. Choose from prisoners - Nazis and other volunteers and mirror 20-30 creatures for each innocently killed Russian soldier.

          And get the same number of killed Russian prisoners. And so on ad infinitum. Do you think this is a good plan?
      2. guest Offline guest
        guest 5 June 2022 18: 41
        0
        You read carefully, it was only about foreign mercenaries to whom even the Geneva Convention does not apply and who fully deserved death, and preferably painful.
  4. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 5 June 2022 11: 14
    -1
    Yes, all the past victories turned into zilch - and about the flight of Z, and about the collapse of Y, and about the elimination of everyone and everything ...
    so here everything is precocious ...

    How is it, I wonder, the Negro volunteers and the Odessa partisans are doing ...
  5. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 5 June 2022 12: 52
    -4
    Some projections from the author. He is better at aircraft carriers. Zelensky is the most popular politician in the history of Ukraine. Possibly the most popular in the world today. I'm a little annoyed by his height, people of small stature are often prone to authoritarianism and Bonapartism.

    The root of the problem is that after the Maidan in 2014, Ukraine lost its sovereignty and came under complete external control. Initially, the Americans and Europeans ruled everything there, but now the first violin has passed to the British, whom Washington let ahead of itself, and the Poles, who are already being used by London as a promising anti-Russian ram.

    If you ask to provide evidence of this statement of the author, he will not be able to.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 5 June 2022 20: 03
      -1
      Quote: Oleg Rambover
      If you ask to provide evidence of this statement of the author, he will not be able to.

      Ukraine has not been independent for a long time, it has collapsed. This is an axiom. Decide what kind of evidence you want to hear. laughing
  6. sapper2 Offline sapper2
    sapper2 (Minesweeper2) 5 June 2022 14: 48
    +1
    Let's ask the curators ..... The Americans and the Angles know everything .... Who should be removed who should be imprisoned ...
  7. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 5 June 2022 16: 30
    +1
    There will be no revolution. Ukraine and the military country to the bulb together with the people. To a burnt out light bulb.
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 5 June 2022 18: 43
      0
      No, theoretically there can be a coup, but only if the owner overseas gives his consent to this.
  8. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 5 June 2022 22: 19
    0
    Since the media write, then there will be no pyrevorot.
    The usual PR is coming out: the fat is over, Zelensky has fled, Poroshenko has fled for the 10th time ...
  9. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
    Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 6 June 2022 01: 50
    0
    Everything is captured by amers. They control the situation in terms of a possible coup and headquarters and at the front ... flogged. You won’t twitch ... and if you just fill up the selman, they will put another ... clown, military time, everything is in manual mode, the dolls are pulled by the strings ...)
  10. k7k8 Offline k7k8
    k7k8 (vic) 6 June 2022 13: 50
    0
    Quote: isofat
    Ukraine has not been independent for a long time, it has collapsed. It's an axiom

    So far, this is just your unsubstantiated assumption.
  11. amon Offline amon
    amon (Amon Amon) 6 June 2022 23: 55
    +2
    The clown Zelensky once already played Napoleon, and now, in a drug delirium, he considers himself a real Naoleon Bounaparty, although he only draws on a captain from the underpants warehouse!
    1. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 9 June 2022 22: 38
      0
      You do not know that two-story houses with central heating and hot water are being built on underpants.
  12. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 9 June 2022 22: 37
    0
    It is not clear why they need another coup, because everything has already been turned upside down. Ukrainians are shouting that there will be no better than Zelensky. What God gave them Zelensky, as if he was sent there and he is already there.