Why the US and Britain entered into a confrontation with Russia and China

There is an opinion that the “proxy” war waged by Russia and the collective West on the territory of Ukraine is just the first stage, a “warm-up”, after which a real clash for the future world order will begin. And Beijing and Washington will converge in this confrontation between themselves, closely watching how the Kremlin reacts to the Anglo-American provocations being arranged, determining for itself the limits of what is possible for the coming fight.

Yes, unfortunately or fortunately, Russia today is “only” enemy number two for the United States. Number one is China with its giant manufacturing the economy, one and a half billion people, a huge army and rapid scientific and technological progress. But Moscow and Beijing objectively found themselves in the same trench, which, unfortunately, has not yet been realized by all the Russian elites, their liberal-comprador part, which is still sending the conditional “Medinsky” to negotiate the terms of an honorable surrender to the West in Cold War-2 for which they are not ready.

No one will be spared because the stakes are too high. The capitalist system has objectively come to a crisis, which always ends with the World War, rivers of blood and total destruction, after which the next “Marshall Plan” is turned on, and everything again goes in a spiral, exactly until the next crisis. Meanwhile, it can be stated that the unipolar system that was formed after the collapse of the USSR has been destroyed, and two new poles of power are now being built on its ruins.

"Global NATO"

The North Atlantic Alliance emerged almost immediately after the end of World War II as a collective Western military bloc directed against the Soviet Union. The USSR is long gone, but NATO still exists. Moreover, the alliance received a new impetus for its existence after the launch of a special military operation to denazify and demilitarize Ukraine, which the United States and Great Britain used as a “ram” against Russia, simply forcing them to switch from passive observation of the destructive processes taking place in Nezalezhnaya to active actions. Now new members, Finland and Sweden, have gathered into NATO, creating an additional threat to the Russian Federation in the northwestern direction.

It is interesting that Washington apparently entrusted the role of the first violin in inciting internecine slaughter in the post-Soviet space to London, which a few years earlier hastily jumped out of the European Union, despite a bunch of problems that came with it. Great Britain has chosen the side of the USA and is now walking in the wake of the American foreign policy.

However, we remember that the new main enemy of the United States is China. So it was not easy to immediately take and set up Europe against Asia, located thousands of kilometers away, so at first the Anglo-Saxons figured out for three the new anti-Chinese military bloc AUKUS, which included the United States, Great Britain and Australia themselves. At the same time, Australia was obviously considered as a "ram", which is not too sorry, for the Navy of which the Americans proposed to build as many as 8 nuclear submarines. It is promised that they will not carry nuclear weapons, but we know the value of such promises. But the Anglo-Saxons would not be themselves if they did not try to use someone else as "cannon fodder".

British Foreign Secretary Liz Truss spoke of some kind of "global NATO":

It is important that we focus on a global NATO. Because, while protecting Euro-Atlantic security, we also need to pay attention to security in the Indo-Pacific region. We need to pre-empt threats in the Indo-Pacific. Work with allies like Japan and Australia to make sure the Pacific is secure. We must be confident that democracies like Taiwan can defend themselves.

It is obvious that Washington and London also want to involve Europe and the countries of Southeast Asia that have some kind of "grater" with China, for example, Japan, in the confrontation with China. The problem of Taiwan may turn out to be a breaking point if the Anglo-Saxons provoke Beijing to start a military special operation. Let's say they recognize the independence of Taiwan, and when the PLA starts its own NWO, they will block the straits through which the Celestial Empire receives hydrocarbons and other raw materials, and impose an embargo on the purchase of Chinese goods in order to start strangling it economically.

Quite a working scenario, by the way.

The Celestial Empire Strikes Back

It should be noted that China has behaved rather reservedly in the foreign policy arena in all previous years. Unlike the USSR, the PRC did not try to bring the light of communist ideas to other countries, on the contrary, it used its big capital to actually colonize the countries of the Third World, and not only them. On key issues at the UN, Beijing voted, as did Moscow. He did not brandish a nuclear baton, trying to develop the economy and strengthen his army and navy. But now there has been a noticeable change in his position.

Looking at the approach of the NATO bloc to its borders, China began to build its own pole of power. Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi stated the following verbatim:

China proposes to launch the BRICS expansion process, study the expansion standards and procedures, and gradually form a consensus.

Recall that BRICS is a club of interests, which includes Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. It is believed that in order to join it, a candidate must be a regional economic leader, have national sovereignty and a desire to preserve it, and not cause rejection among other teammates. All previous years, BRICS was an informal international structure, by and large, imitating confrontation with the collective West. But now everything can change.

Thus, it is planned to create its own pool of foreign exchange reserves to replace the IMF, and the BRICS Development Bank was created instead of the World Bank. Work is underway to create a multilateral financial system similar to SWIFT, as well as the BRICS Pay payment system, which will operate on the territory of the participating states.

Moreover, BRICS is ready to take on new, already strong-arm functions in the fight against global terrorism and the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons:

The Ministers expressed their commitment to combating all forms and manifestations of terrorism, including the cross-border movements of terrorists, the financing of terrorism and the provision of safe haven to terrorists.

Terrorism comes in many forms. For example, we have been helping Damascus fight terrorist groups in Syria for many years. The Ukrainian "Azov" (banned in the Russian Federation) will one of these days be recognized as a terrorist organization by the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation. There is a threat of terrorist expansion in Central Asia. In general, there is no end to the work in this direction. It is not yet known in what specific form the interaction will be carried out: will each of the teammates simply be responsible for security in their region, or will some kind of combined BRICS military contingents be created. Something suggests that the case will go according to the second option.

There is a rapid transformation of an informal club of interests into an international coalition, which includes two irreconcilable opponents of the US and Great Britain at once, into a new pole of power, which Beijing is ready to expand further. The world will definitely not be the same.
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  1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 22 May 2022 11: 57
    BRICS is a virtual club invented and existing only through the efforts of journalists, to put it mildly.
    Not a single joint action, not a single goal achieved or even set. Well, except perhaps "for all the good, against all the bad."
    Brazil, India, South Africa will not take a step against the USA.
    You should not have any illusions about this. Even for support from China, one should not hope.
    The United States will easily buy China by giving it Taiwan. Does anyone think that Taiwan is very important for the US? Don't be under any illusions. Pawn sacrifice (Taiwan) in the Great Game is a common story.
    1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
      Michael L. 22 May 2022 12: 05
      PRC Foreign Minister Wang Yi - who advocates for the expansion of the BRICS - is not a journalist!
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 22 May 2022 12: 18
        So what? Has anything changed after the words given by the journalist? The job of the Minister of Foreign Affairs is to chat, chat, chat. What does extension mean? For what? Even if nothing is done in the current composition. Expanded - so what? Will they chat not in five mouths, but in ten?
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    3. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 23 May 2022 07: 54
      Absolutely right. There can be no unification of the BRICS by definition. Firstly: its two largest members India and China are in confrontation over disputed territories and political confrontation, Secondly: they need a formal leader and everyone (except South Africa) wants to be such a leader there, and thirdly, countries with different political devices are too different for a "single" policy and leadership ...
  2. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
    Michael L. 22 May 2022 12: 02
    NATO is dominated by the US.
    And who will rule in its (economic?) antipode BRICS - China?
    RF arrange stay on the sidelines?
    1. Bakht Offline Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 May 2022 12: 13
      And in what association can Russia be in the first roles? By the way, this is a rather serious question.
      Russia has the resources and has good groundwork in SEPARATE areas.
      You don't have to strive to be the first. You have to be equal.
      1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
        Michael L. 22 May 2022 13: 21
        Gotta be equal

        You can't be an idealist: you have to be a realist - if not you, then above you!
        "Such is se la va"!
        1. Bakht Offline Bakht
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 May 2022 13: 51
          So be realistic. In which union can Russia claim the first roles?
          1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
            Michael L. 22 May 2022 14: 28
            Russia in NATO can claim the first roles!
            1. Bakht Offline Bakht
              Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 May 2022 14: 37
              Original but not informative.
              1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
                Michael L. 22 May 2022 14: 56
                But adequate! ;-(
                1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                  Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 May 2022 15: 04
                  I thought we were serious. Wrong.
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        2. avasurtr Offline avasurtr
          avasurtr (Alex) 22 May 2022 15: 20
          well, general phrases, it doesn’t work like that, what exactly did you want to say?
      2. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
        Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 22 May 2022 13: 51
        .... and the first will be the last

        I. Christ.
        1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
          Michael L. 22 May 2022 14: 29
          Do not distort: ​​we are talking about the Kingdom of God!
    2. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 22 May 2022 12: 19
      What to rule? Journalists? Personally, I would be satisfied with Russia's presence even in the sixth roles in the BRICS. Saving time.
    3. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 22 May 2022 17: 21
      Quote from Mikhail L.
      RF arrange stay on the sidelines?

      On the second, India wakes up.
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 22 May 2022 17: 41
        Oleg Rambover, India is not an alarm clock, you are wrong. laughing
    4. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 23 May 2022 10: 28
      For Catholics, the Pope dominates, while for Orthodox, everything is decided by the local churches. There is no Pope there. This may be the case in BRICS as well. And if you create a military alliance, then maybe the SCO is better suited for this?
  3. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 22 May 2022 12: 24
    Quote from Mikhail L.
    NATO is dominated by the US.
    And who will rule in its (economic?) Antipode BRICS

    It's funny. NATO is a military bloc. Should he be opposed by the BRICS in the economic field? sense.
    I propose to oppose NATO-RFS (Russian football union). Only first it is necessary to increase the number of teams in the Russian Premier League to 20. Otherwise, we won't be able to defeat NATO! By the way, the issue of leadership is immediately resolved.
  4. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 22 May 2022 12: 59
    Why the US and Britain entered into a confrontation with Russia and China

    - Oh, yes, this topic has already been "written-rewritten"!
    - The essence of this topic is that "all the former" - as they were - and "remain in their places"! - Nothing has changed!
    - Only China has changed! - China has decided that everything is already possible for him and everything is allowed! - And he began to become impudent - "by leaps and bounds" (this is more manifested - "in the address of Russia")! - But here Russia itself is to blame - why is it so servile and meek to bend under China !!!
    - And China itself made a monstrous global mistake - this is that it is very strong (and also obsequiously) "stretched" to the United States! - And he decided that he, on an equal footing with the United States, can solve world problems (and even behind Russia's back, negotiate with the United States against Russia; and betray Russia) - but in reality - but in reality - China simply sank to the level of a state that is forced to support American sanctions in everything, i.e. do what is beneficial to the US! - That's it - no more and no less!
    - This is Russia hysterically loyal to China - ready to extol China; and the United States - and they treat China - very, very condescendingly!
    - And, if not for Russia, which will simply lay down the bones for China; then the United States would have long ago put China in its "historical place" - to sit on the sidelines and not get involved in "world affairs"!
    - But Russia is so devoted to China that it is ready to endure literally everything from China (including any betrayal)! - And with what pride in Russia our leaders overflow when they hear: "Russia and China; Russia and China; Russia and China!" .
    - Personally, I will say absolutely categorically: "Russia is one against everyone - it could withstand the whole hostile world! - Yes, it would have suffered monstrous losses, it itself would have inflicted deadly monstrous enemies (much greater monstrous losses and many enemies of Russia would simply cease to exist after that - would have left the modern history of mankind) - but Russia would have survived !!!
    - But China without a devoted Russia would simply become a training ground, a training target, an operating model for using all kinds of "world weapons"! - And what would be left of him - it's hard to say!
    - So - as soon as Russia stops all "its friendship" with China, then China's entire world influence will begin to shrink like "shagreen leather" !!!
    1. Bakht Offline Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 May 2022 13: 53
      This is your old dream idea. Together with the States, bend China. Life teaches nothing...
    2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 22 May 2022 14: 20
      Don't you, Irina, see the consequences of ending our "friendship" with China? If a sober China is aware of this termination as a reality, then it is also aware that alone, it will not be able to pull out the confrontation with the States, NATO and AUKUS, and Russia will go first in the division and appetizer. It is quite possible then that China will also change the program and decide to be at this table with a claim to part of its territory and wealth. It is impossible to demand human qualities from China - fidelity, honesty and decency and be offended for the fact that they do not exist. You need to rely only on interests, but the interests are distant, strategic. We are neighbors with them, having a part of a common beautiful history in the 20th century.
      Such a fellow traveler would be very useful to the states now
      1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
        gorenina91 (Irina) 22 May 2022 15: 01
        Don't you, Irina, see the consequences of ending our "friendship" with China?

        - Ha! - I don't see it, do I? - Yes, you just "commentary-paragraph-thesis" retold what I have been writing "Russian in white" for many years !!!

        If a sober China is aware of this termination as a reality, then it is also aware that alone, it will not be able to pull out the confrontation with the States, and Russia will go first in the division and snack. It is quite possible then that China will also change the program and decide to be behind this table with a claim to part of its territory and wealth.
        Such a fellow traveler would be very useful to the states now

        - No, China will no longer be "sober" - his head has been "going round" for a long time and he (China) has long ceased to objectively assess reality! - Otherwise, he would stop trying to believe that the United States can take him as an equal partner and even "share" Russia with him! - All of his supposedly "age-old wisdom" is crumbling right before our eyes! - Today, China has somewhat "sobered up" the WSO operation, which Russia is conducting in Ukraine; but the fact that China "really sobered up" and began to realistically assess the current situation will only show how it will continue to behave with Russia (whether it will be able to diametrically change and improve its entire policy towards Russia - which is unlikely) - and then - will he continue his attempts to annex Taiwan (but now China will probably refuse Taiwan)! - So - China will not be able to sober up completely - but only "half"!
        - Today, China is very stupid! - If China would fundamentally change its policy (improve it) towards Russia, then it would also acquire Taiwan - and would retain a very devoted military ally! - Otherwise, China simply "remains with nothing"!
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 22 May 2022 23: 08
          It seems to me that you are subjective in your assessment of China, unless of course you have more serious interests in this matter.
          In order to understand China's attitude towards Russia, we need to put ourselves in its place. You and others like you want China to trust Russia up front as a strategic military partner because we know how good we are.
          And what will happen to gullible China if Russia then suddenly takes it and surrenders with giblets to the States? Are there signs that such a turn of events is possible?
          Our leadership allowed the West to steal a significant part of the reserves, then sent the payment of half a billion greenbacks into the hands of the thief, voluntarily climbed into a trap in Ukraine, while diligently bypassing the States with their actions. Now he declares that the approach of NATO to its borders is no longer a danger. Are you yourself sure of the firmness of our line?
          China does not have a replacement for Russia, but this is no reason to demand reckless trust from it. China is eyeing it, as the Russian government gives it clear cause for concern.
          Just as, however, as their own population
  5. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
    Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 22 May 2022 13: 48
    In some ways, Gorenina 91 is right. NATO's number one enemy is Russia. Patamuchta and other minerals and mined - in Russia.
    1. Bakht Offline Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 May 2022 13: 55
      Gorenina is not right about anything. For many years she has been pushing the idea that Russia, together with Europe and the States, should stop China.
      Greater ... shortsightedness is hard to imagine.
      Or should Russia single-handedly stop China's industrial development? Russia's main enemy is not China. This is the Anglo-Saxon world. That is the States. So what? Shall we help the States?
  6. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 22 May 2022 13: 55
    It should be noted that the main thing is that it was the United States, Britain, their allies and vassals that entered into a confrontation with the PRC, the Russian Federation, Iran, the PRCDR and any other state formations beyond their control and control, as they once did with Libya, Iraq, Syria, Venezuela and many, many others. Not a single state entity in the world in the XNUMXth and XNUMXst centuries waged as many wars as the United States with its allies, and this is not counting the coups d'état organized by them, multi-colored revolutions and everything else.
    The reasons are different, but the essence is the same - imperialism, when monopoly associations play a decisive role in the world economy and politics, hiring and overthrowing objectionable governments around the world, serving the interests of a small group of their owners that make up 1% or 72 million people from the entire population of the planet.
    The aggression of world imperialism against the Russian Federation is due to the policy of national interests pursued by V.V. Putin, and the head of any state entity who tries to do this automatically becomes an enemy with all the ensuing consequences - sanctions, coup, war, etc. The PRC is a different social system, and therefore the first task of imperialism is to discredit the Communist Party of China with a variety of methods, including economic, political, informational, military, etc., etc.
  7. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 22 May 2022 14: 00
    Two or 2,5 months ago, the dreamers of this site were waiting for the PRC to launch an operation in Taiwan. Type the moment is very convenient (although it is not clear why). I laughed at their wishes.
    And he predicted that the PRC would not make any attempts to return the island until the end of the war in Ukraine.
    I got a lot of cons. Because "you can't be smart like that."
    Now a new nonsense is being launched. And give me cons. After all, if there are enough of them, then Mongolia itself will enter the BRICS in order to overthrow the unjust world of the impudent Saxons!! And if Argentina enters there, then we will beat the NATO football team with a devastating score.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 23 May 2022 16: 58
      Expert...don't jump out of your pants. Today, the BRICS countries have organized for economic cooperation. If such cooperation is successful and profitable, who can stop them from protecting their alliance? And what can prevent the collapse of NATO, if suddenly their military alliance becomes economically unprofitable, in other words, it becomes expensive to rob foreign countries? laughing
  8. opportunist Offline opportunist
    opportunist (dim) 22 May 2022 21: 10
    the Brix organization that has existed all these years has been an economic union without content. China seems to want to create a new UN through it to lead the world economy. east of Ukraine, we will destroy all plans of the Anglo-Saxons for geopolitical influence in Eurasia. However, we must understand that, given our economic and demographic size, in this new strategic alliance that is being created, we will not be the first violin.
  9. shiva Offline shiva
    shiva (Ivan) 22 May 2022 22: 36
    As Satanovsky recently said about Turkey's accession to the CSTO, an interesting alignment may eventually turn out ...
    So is BRICS - to join a couple more countries and there will already be three-quarters of the world's population (or even more "golden billion" has dissolved), who do not want wars, for the sake of income from Lockheed Martin and the United States in general, but just want to eat.
  10. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 23 May 2022 05: 45
    It is necessary to create a union of Croatia, Uruguay, Iran, Kenya and Syria.
    Announce that this union represents the economic, political, environmental and secondhand interests of 75% of the world's population.
    A new, powerful alliance must demand that the US and Malaysia observe ethical behavior in international and domestic politics, as well as repent of all their sins from the day the US was founded.
    In case of failure to comply with these requirements, HUICS reserves the right to immediate, decisive and final dissolution of HUICS itself, as well as the UN, UNESCO and the NATO bloc.
    Tremble the enemies of Russia. We're about to have another Union on our side.