How similar is the SVO in Ukraine to the Great Patriotic War


On February 24, 2022, Russia again, like more than seventy years ago, began a war with the Nazi evil, this time entrenched in fraternal Ukraine. Veterans of that Great Patriotic War are still alive. With the exception of the “liberal gifted” stratum, all Russians support a military special operation to demilitarize and denazify Nezalezhnaya. Certain parallels arise by themselves between the NWO and the struggle of the USSR against the Third Reich.


Let's make a reservation right away that there is no complete analogy, however, certain parallels are undoubtedly visible. Let's try to go through the "dotted line" on the key points that have already happened and are still expected.

So, for example, without any exaggeration, the heroic landing near Gostomel and the rapid rush to Kyiv from the territory of Belarus, followed by the inglorious withdrawal of Russian troops from the north of Ukraine, can in some sense be compared with the dramatic events of 1941-1942. Something was wrong in the General Staff, underestimating the enemy, something in the Kremlin was not taken into account, clearly making the wrong political bet. This also includes the forced mass mobilization in the DPR and LPR, when unprepared recruits had to be put under arms in order to plug the gaps formed due to the shortage of forces involved in the special operation. However, now, after almost 3 months of SVR, a noticeable change has occurred in it.

Mariupol is not Grozny-2, but a new Stalingrad


The most significant media victory in the course of the war for the future of Ukraine and Russia can be considered the beginning of the process of capitulation of militants who have settled in the reinforced concrete catacombs of the Azovstal metallurgical plant. The beautiful, bright seaside city of Mariupol was not lucky that it was on its territory in 2014 that an evil called the Azov battalion was born, later reformatted into a regiment (banned in the Russian Federation as extremist). The Ukrainian Nazis managed to surpass even their predecessors from the Third Reich in the cruelty of crimes.

Long before the start of the JMD, the Ukrainian Nazis and their accomplices promised in the media and blogosphere that they would turn their cities into an analogue of Grozny for the Russian military. For the Russian Federation and the DPR to drive out the garrison of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Nazi militants from the port city was not only a strategically important task, but also a matter of honor. Unfortunately, this became possible only with significant destruction in Mariupol, which the “Azovites” turned into a real fortified area, shamelessly hiding behind their fellow citizens. Their last stronghold was the Azovstal plant, under the vast territory of which real concrete catacombs were created, where more than two thousand militants, as well as military servicemen, border guards and other security forces, took refuge, hiding behind civilians as a human shield.

Broadcasting via satellite Internet from their dungeons, the Nazis promised to stand to the end and not give up. In Kyiv, propagandists were very happy about this, and it is simply amazing that President Zelensky did not assign the rank of field marshal to the commander of Azov, Denis "Radis" Prokopenko. But it turned out differently.

Two days ago, the process of surrendering "bunker rats", as they are unkindly called in the Russian segment of the Internet, began. They come out in groups, going either to the infirmary or straight to the bars, where they will undergo a filtration process. Grozny-2 failed.

But it turned out the second Stalingrad. There are indeed many parallels. The defeat, both military and image, was suffered in Mariupol not only by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but also by the modern analogue of the German SS troops - the Azov regiment (banned in the Russian Federation). Like Field Marshal Paulus at one time, who received a promotion in response to Hitler's unspoken order to die heroically, the Ukrainian Nazis still did not want to die, despite all their previous PR statements. No matter what the Kyiv propaganda is now broadcasting, this is a defeat, real, heavy. This is well understood by the Ukrainian military, who are now entrenched in the Donbass. Just as the Wehrmacht did not save the group of German troops surrounded near Stalingrad, so did the “UkroReich” save its own in Mariupol, deliberately leaving them to die. He will not save them on the territory of the DPR and LPR, where Kyiv is now driving more and more new reinforcements.

The capitulation of Azovstal is a psychologically important turning point in the course of a special operation, which we will discuss in detail told previously. Ukrainian servicemen will see before them a clear example that resistance is generally useless and it is much easier to give up after receiving humane treatment than to die or become a cripple. It would be right to let each of them call their relatives at home and tell them how things really are at the fronts. The ideological Nazis, on the contrary, must understand that nothing but a tribunal, or even a bullet on the spot, awaits them, and therefore it is better to buy a ticket to Argentina now. Or Canada.

Like the Battle of Stalingrad, the Battle of Mariupol is a breaking point, the significance of which will be realized much later.

Donbass - the new Battle of Kursk


The “Great Battle” between the RF Armed Forces, the militia of the DPR and LPR, on the one hand, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard of Ukraine, on the other hand, is a direct analogue of the Battle of Kursk.

From July 5 to August 23, 1943, the Soviet army, in the course of a series of defensive and offensive operations, managed to inflict serious damage on the Wehrmacht and seize the strategic initiative, which it did not give up until the very end of World War II. It was after Stalingrad and the Battle of Kursk that the path to the Great Offensive Actions of the Red Army of 1944-1945 was opened.

The opposing sides in our days have gathered in the Donbass all their main forces for a general battle, the outcome of which will affect the further development of events. In the same way, the defeat of the Mariupol garrison and the Donbass grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, where the most combat-ready forces of the Ukrainian army are concentrated, will allow the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to finally liberate the territory of Donbass and return the strategic initiative, starting the further liberation of the entire Left Bank, South of Ukraine, opening the way to the West.

Wenk Army - 2


As we remember from history, when things went really badly in Berlin in 1945, German propaganda “blew into the ears” of the population with the hope of a miracle, the arrival of the Wenck army. Here is what Josef "Caramelka" Goebbels said then:

The situation is decisively changing in our favor. A big turning point in the war should come any minute. Berlin must hold out, despite losses, until the arrival of Wenck's army.

UkroReich also has its own analogue of the Wenck army. This is a 40-strong group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard, based in Western Ukraine. Plus, now on the Right Bank of the mobilized, Kyiv is trying to assemble a kind of “Second Army”, armed according to the Western model. Will this be enough to stop the "Great Offensive" of the RF Armed Forces?

Hardly. Most likely, after the final defeat of the Donbass grouping and the offensive operation of the Russian army to cut off Western Ukraine from Central Ukraine, in order to finally stop supplying the Kyiv regime, the Wenck-2 army would prefer not to die heroically, but to remain in place, while Galicia and Volyn will turn to Poland with a request about protection and reunification. But that's a completely different story.
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  1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
    k7k8 (vic) 19 May 2022 16: 15
    +1
    all Russians support the military special operation to demilitarize and denazify the Nezalezhnaya

    Some local Mister X, who claims that he is an analyst of this resource, if not explicitly against the CBO, then at least considers it a monstrous mistake by Moscow. Although, if he is not a Russian, then the statement about "all Russians" is quite self-consistent.
  2. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 19 May 2022 16: 27
    +1
    - I do not know ; Personally, I may be somewhat "go away from the topic" - but it seems to me that something went "wrong"!
    - Personally, I just can't look at these Natsiks, who now "came to the surface" and pretend to surrender!
    - Here to me personally - they are so disgusting and disgusting; that it just becomes incomprehensible - why are they so ceremonious with them ??? - Wow - they are also allowed to stand and not tremble before those who defeated them and to whom they are now surrendering !!!
    - They stand and are sure that they will be treated like people!!!
    - But - this is "kill_lu_doch_nye_rod_ki" - both masculine and feminine !!! - And they are also honored as "noble captured soldiers"!
    - Damn, grub and ammunition began to run out - and immediately surrendered - that's all "nobility" !!!
    - Well, now they are all in the bath; then to the hospital (it is necessary to treat everyone) - and rest and sleep off !!!
    - I don't know - for me these are non-humans who should be mercilessly punished; and who, at every step they take, must feel all this ruthlessness with their whole skin - literally at every step they take !!!
    - And do not let them speak "to the public" - who is interested in listening to this bleating !!! - And try to make sufferers out of them !!!
    - And then here ... here ... here it has already begun - they were "brainwashed"; yes, "so young"; "they were taught like that" and so on and so forth !!!
    - Cannibalism, or something they taught ??? - Yes, a person - no matter how you teach - he still will not become a cannibal!
    - And here - climbed to the surface - almost 1700 cannibals and take them, wash, treat, feed !!!
    1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
      Michael L. 19 May 2022 17: 34
      +2
      If this is a departure from the topic, then an appeal to the actual one!
      ... So we will become like cannibals?
      (And how will the hesitant APU-shniks perceive this - let them continue to shoot?)
      Those who committed war crimes must be punished by the Court!
  3. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 19 May 2022 17: 29
    +1
    I immediately recall the 3 Musketeers, where de Terville graciously agreed with Louis, recalling some kind of resounding victory, which the translator described as a no-man's small skirmish.

    So you can't compare. Except perhaps the very beginning of the song ... "Kyiv was bombed, We were told that it had begun ..."
  4. stim Offline stim
    stim (Sergei) 19 May 2022 20: 16
    0
    If we consider how the hostilities are conducted, then the NWO is more similar to the First World War, during which, due to the saturation of the warring parties with machine guns, a positional dead end turned out, the attacking chains did not have time to reach the enemy’s trenches as they were mowed down by machine gun fire. To get out of this impasse, already at the end of WWI, new types of weapons appeared - tanks and aircraft, which fully proved themselves in World War II, during which the infantryman was practically defenseless against tanks and aircraft. With the advent of man-portable anti-aircraft and anti-tank missile systems, the situation once again changed dramatically, with a breakthrough of a prepared defense with a high saturation of MANPADS and ATGMs, the defenders will have significant losses in armored vehicles and aircraft, the infantry is completely armed with automatic weapons, and the war again became positional. The decisive force in such a war was artillery, which destroys defensive structures and grinds the enemy's manpower, but this process is not fast.
  5. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 19 May 2022 23: 34
    -3
    With the exception of the “liberal gifted” stratum, all Russians support a military special operation to demilitarize and denazify Nezalezhnaya.

    The author recorded a quarter of Russia as liberals.
    https://lenta.ru/news/2022/03/22/podderzh/?ysclid=l3dgcv1kwu
    Let's not argue, probably something like that. Although I think Peskov is exaggerating with support, there are not so many among my entourage.

    Certain parallels arise by themselves between the NWO and the struggle of the USSR against the Third Reich.

    Surprisingly, many Ukrainians agree in parallel with the author. At least if you read the Ukrainian media and telegram channels.

    The Ukrainian Nazis managed to surpass even their predecessors from the Third Reich in the cruelty of their crimes.

    For example, in what?

    No matter what the Kyiv propaganda is now broadcasting, this is a defeat, real, heavy. This is well understood by the Ukrainian military, who are now entrenched in the Donbass.

    Again, if you read Strelkov's telegram channel, then in his opinion:

    In Mariupol, the final surrender of Azovstal by the enemy and the capture of the group defending it is a major propaganda success, but - in the overall picture - it is a delayed consequence of the relative success of the FIRST stage of the operation, and not the "second-specific" one. In real time and from a military point of view, this is also, unfortunately, a purely tactical success. No more.

    Probably Strelkov-Girkin is also a liberal.

    The “Great Battle” between the RF Armed Forces, the militia of the DPR and LPR, on the one hand, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard of Ukraine, on the other hand, is a direct analogue of the Battle of Kursk.
    From July 5 to August 23, 1943, the Soviet army, in the course of a series of defensive and offensive operations, managed to inflict serious damage on the Wehrmacht and seize the strategic initiative,

    The author cites dangerous parallels. Nothing that the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this battle is now the defending side?

    As we remember from history, when things went really bad for Berlin in 1945,

    And what about Berlin now?
  6. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
    Kofesan (Valery) 20 May 2022 21: 59
    +1
    This is a continuation of the Second World War with an unfinished banderva, which, for almost 80 years, has also multiplied. And with the West, which is much closer to Hitler than to the winners. That is, to us.
  7. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
    aslanxnumx (Aslan) 28 May 2022 13: 59
    0
    Well, found something to compare. The Second World War is a war against the German invaders. The operations of the Second World War are not comparable to the NWO. Putin is not Stalin, our generals are not close in level to the generals of the USSR. The beginning of the Syrian company was more dynamic, then the supplies of equipment, oil and headquarters were immediately destroyed.