How Russia can deal with the supply of Western weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine


The collective West began to forcefully rearm Ukraine to fight Russia. Recently, there have been many messages on the Web about fixing the appearance or use of various samples of this "help" in the combat zone.


In this regard, the question of what to do with enemy logistics has become relevant for the RF Armed Forces. The answer is known - it is necessary to stop its existence or reduce it to the maximum possible level. However, this in turn raises a number of other related questions. But they come down to just two possible solutions.

The first, which seems to be the simplest for the inhabitants, but at the same time the most unpredictable in its consequences, is that if Moscow is not interested in Right-Bank Ukraine, then Russian troops need to destroy the 21 remaining uncontrolled bridges across the Dnieper River. This means: 9 road bridges (2 of which are also used as a metro bridge), 6 passing over the hydroelectric power station (some of them have railway tracks), 4 railway bridges, 7 combined (road and rail). The pedestrian bridge in Kyiv should not be destroyed, as it technique can not pass, but for humanitarian reasons, it is simply necessary.

How Russia can deal with the supply of Western weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine

Destroying only part of the bridges is pointless. However, the destruction of bridges over the hydroelectric power station must be carried out very carefully, because the higher this structure is located along the Dnieper, the more filigree the work should be done. And you can’t make a mistake, since dams that collapse under the pressure of water according to the domino principle are extremely dangerous. They will not only wash away the cities of Ukraine with a multi-million population into the Black Sea, but also the grouping of the RF Armed Forces in the Kherson region.

Therefore, another option is preferable, especially if Moscow has views of the Right Bank, or at least part of it. It is enough to look at the map of Ukraine to understand that the main headache lies in the sections of the Polish-Ukrainian and Slovak-Ukrainian borders. These are the entry points for "help" and there are far fewer of them than the bridges on the Dnieper. It is from here that weapons spread like a fan across Ukraine. But you can “iron” the area here without stint. Further, along the border of Ukraine, there is only sane Hungary, the dense Carpathian Mountains and the Danube River and its tributary Prut (Romania is not eager to become a weapons hub).
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  1. cheburator Offline cheburator
    cheburator (Cheburator) April 24 2022 21: 01
    +10
    So work brothers! Procrastination is like death!
  2. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
    Observer2014 April 24 2022 21: 08
    +5
    How Russia can deal with the supply of Western weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    Calmly. Communications. Ukraine needs? Well, if you don’t need it, then there will be no railway, auto, transportation.
  3. Bakht Online Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 24 2022 21: 39
    +1
    How Russia can deal with the supply of Western weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    Declare martial law in the country. Temporarily, due to martial law, introduce a ban on the sale of ANY goods abroad. Primarily oil, gas, coal. Until the end of the war in Ukraine. Lower the Iron Curtain. This will require the mobilization of society. As long as the Government has a vote of confidence from 80% of society, this must be done.
    The war (we must call a spade a spade) has been going on for two months (the third one has begun). The resources of the collective West and Russia are incomparable. This is a dragon war. The West will grow new heads for the Ukrainian dragon.
    1. EMMM Offline EMMM
      EMMM April 25 2022 23: 22
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      Bakhtiyar, it's not that simple. So far, there is no war for our citizens, and we must understand this.
      A ban on the export of coal, oil / oil products and gas, I will add from myself and forests - 100% for! And in a couple of months we will look at the reaction of our partners ...
      1. Bakht Online Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 25 2022 23: 31
        +2
        The fact that officially there is no war is the problem. But in reality there is a war.
        Russia will lose the war if it maintains relations with "partners".
        It's all very simple. There is no complex politics here.
        1. ZmikeV Offline ZmikeV
          ZmikeV (Michael) April 27 2022 19: 23
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          Quote: Bakht
          No complicated politics here

          there's a complicated economy here
          1. Bakht Online Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 27 2022 20: 01
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            Oh sure. Therefore, the military must do their duty on the battlefield. And the political leadership to transfer the war to the economic front.
            This morning the gas price was $1350.
            A 17% drop in oil production in Russia is predicted. This is a minus of almost 2 million barrels per day. It's time to stop shipping oil to India.
            1. ZmikeV Offline ZmikeV
              ZmikeV (Michael) April 27 2022 20: 37
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              Falling production only as a result of falling demand. Do not stop shipping, but look for new consumers.
              1. Bakht Online Bakht
                Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 27 2022 21: 09
                +1
                New customers are good. But who needs extra oil?
                Let's say India is the largest oil importer. Over the past two months, India has doubled its purchase of Russian oil. And she became ... an exporter of oil.
                The scheme is simple. India buys Russian oil at a 20% discount. Approximately $80 per barrel. And sells it to the UK. Which officially refused Russian oil. Or "Latvian oil" appeared, which comes to Rotterdam from Shell. By the way, Shell also refused Russian oil. But from somewhere I found "Latvian oil".
                That is, in fact, Russia continues to supply Europe with oil, but on the cheap.
  4. Oleg_5 Offline Oleg_5
    Oleg_5 (Oleg) April 24 2022 22: 00
    +7
    It would be nice to deal with the supply of fuel.
    If it doesn't happen, nothing will work...
    1. Bakht Online Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 25 2022 23: 52
      +1
      Version

      Reports appeared in the information field that Russian oil and oil products are coming to Ukraine. They are transported by tankers from Novorossiysk to the Moldavian port of Giurgiurlesti on the Danube, bordering Ukraine. In particular, the passage along this route of the petrochemical tanker Heather IMO 9514456 with a cargo of diesel and oil products was documented, which finished loading in Novorossiysk on April 17, and arrived at the Moldovan port on April 21.
      Around the Kremlin, it is reported that Putin's meetings with Tokarev, the head of Transneft, and an hour and a half conversation with Alekperov, president of PJSC Lukoil, after which the latter announced his sudden resignation, may be connected with these circumstances.
  5. Hayer31 Offline Hayer31
    Hayer31 (Kashchei) April 24 2022 22: 03
    +6
    I do not understand ?? newspapers or TV should remind where to beat??
    The Europeans said that they would hand over heavy equipment, the next day the rockets were supposed to fly to bridges and along the railway. Well, we don’t have generals, huh???? G.
  6. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 24 2022 22: 50
    +2
    With deliveries, all options result in continued depletion of precision-guided weapons, which is unacceptable given the West's willingness to wear us down to exhaustion.
    They broke their paths - they fixed it and again you need to break it.
    Now we are breaking up in places of concentration in warehouses - so the return on the use of high-precision weapons is greater. However, it is still wasteful to spend it on "scrap".
    This whole operation of the West to exhaust us is vicious.
    I admit that we could not dodge it, but we must understand that it does not give us anything with the States.
    The key to solving the situation is in the States and it is necessary to act directly on them. And there is only one instrument of influence - the threat and nuclear war
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    2. Smilodon terribilis nimis April 25 2022 00: 24
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      This works both ways. The West is also dwindling. In addition, tactical nuclear weapons are not involved. Namely, it will be applied in the event of a confrontation with the West.
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 25 2022 00: 34
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        This works both ways. The West is also dwindling.

        It disposes of its Soviet-made weapons in Ukraine. He re-equips his armies with modern ones - at our expense (stolen assets), loading his military-industrial complex with orders. Is that what you want to say?
        For the West, now is the moment of truth in the thousand-year war with the Slavic civilization, even if sacrifices are needed on their part, they will not stop.

        In addition, tactical nuclear weapons are not involved. Namely, it will be applied in the event of a confrontation with the West.

        And here you are wrong. Tactical nuclear weapons means war in Europe. Such a scenario interests the States, but not us - to weaken Europe and make even more money on weapons.
        Our only option is the threat of nuclear war and destruction of the United States itself - the author and source of all our problems
        1. Smilodon terribilis nimis April 25 2022 06: 58
          -2
          Such a scenario assumes the disappearance of the States from the European arena. Do you think they agree to this? Unlikely. Indeed, in this case, their strongest ally, the Britons, will collapse. And about the modern - where is the money, Zin? Eating here would be fine. Not for weapons.
          1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
            Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 25 2022 12: 23
            +1
            [/ quote] [quote] Such a scenario assumes the disappearance of the States from the European arena. Do you think they agree to this?

            I think that the States have already made their choice of the theater of a possible big war in favor of the territory of Europe. In any case, they want to keep their territory.
            As for the UK, it also does not consider itself to be in Europe and thinks to sit out across the English Channel like the States behind their puddle. Its own nuclear weapons will help it to fence itself off from these European problems.

            And about the modern - where is the money, Zin? Eating here would be fine. Not for weapons.

            I already answered earlier. Nothing needs to be printed - there are our stolen assets
            1. Smilodon terribilis nimis April 25 2022 17: 06
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              How can she sit out if she is closer than the State and she has an insignificant arsenal? Naglia is one of the first to go for meat. I'm not sure that the States want and understand about a big war. Remember when the Cornmaker wanted to launch a hedgehog in Florida, they quickly found an opportunity to curtail the impending apocalypse.
              I do not think that the States are so stupid and do not understand the consequences of such a disaster for themselves. This is rather a game "weakly".
            2. Smilodon terribilis nimis April 25 2022 17: 07
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              Our assets are a one-time antibiotic. Given the approaching catastrophe, including with food, they will not cover even 30%.
    3. Ivan IV Vasilievich (Ivan IV Vasilyevich) April 25 2022 01: 47
      +1
      Quote: Alexey Davydov
      Broke their way - they fixed it

      How long does it take to restore a capital railway bridge? At least two months. But something can still fly there in the process of "reconstruction", this music can generally be eternal). It will be impossible to carry anything across this bridge for at least two months!

      Quote: Alexey Davydov
      The key to solving the situation is in the States

      sure it's not there. In London. The USA does not show such zeal as England. Yes, you can see for yourself if you carefully read the news and analyze the information.
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 25 2022 12: 01
        +1
        How long does it take to restore a capital railway bridge? At least two months. But something can still fly there in the process of "reconstruction", this music can generally be eternal). It will be impossible to carry anything across this bridge for at least two months!

        If approached abstractly.
        Specifically, it all depends on the number of damaged load-bearing structures at the facility that require replacement or reinforcement. Larger destruction requires spending more high-precision weapons. As for time, there is a war going on not only for us.

        sure it's not there. In London. The USA does not show such zeal as England. Yes, you can see for yourself if you carefully read the news and analyze the information.

        Speaking of the States, I meant the center of power of the collective West. I assume the UK is included. Basically, it doesn't change anything.
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 25 2022 12: 46
          +1
          I will add to the question of England.
          I envision it like this:
          Spear point (consumable) - Ukraine
          Shaft - Poland
          Hand holding a spear in armor English Channel - England
          Enemy in the armor of the Atlantic - States
          Since the hand is working, the enemy may not indicate all his actions
    4. Manufacturing Department (Production Department) April 25 2022 06: 56
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      As far as I understand, we pass all weapons into the meat grinder of war, where we calmly grind everything in a hurry to minimize the humanitarian catastrophe in Ukraine.
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 25 2022 12: 58
        +1
        Except that we are neutralizing one of the enemy's most dangerous bridgeheads for ourselves. Other than that, unfortunately
  7. viktor goblin Offline viktor goblin
    viktor goblin (viktor goblin) April 25 2022 00: 38
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    Declare war! With all the consequences for the "partners". How much snot can you chew? Got everyone! BE-ME-no cook-river. Calibers will run out - and ... Put things in order in your Country - then climb with the "Russian World"! Where is ONE success? Basmachi betrayed! CSTO at the expense of its ..... DB .. cubed! GDP is not "real".
    1. GIS Offline GIS
      GIS (Ildus) April 25 2022 08: 57
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      did not understand many of the words. can be more?
  8. Roust Offline Roust
    Roust (Rouslan) April 25 2022 07: 45
    +1
    Bomb all railway junctions and main highways in the west of the ruins.
  9. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 25 2022 11: 26
    +1
    In fairness, I must say that the railway track and bridge structures are the most difficult target for precision weapons. Its cross section for a direct hit is extremely small, and resistance to shock waves and other factors, on the contrary, is very high. This is a pure structural element. What is the rail, what is the beam of the bridge. Therefore, the consumption of precision-guided munitions, which have a much higher CEP, is probably very high. And the result? A repair train has arrived - 6 hours of work and you can send a new aviation outfit. I think that it is more economical to hollow out in places of concentration in warehouses, although some of the weapons are stored there.
    The real decision was - at the very beginning to present an ultimatum to Poland about the hub that was just appearing there, with the threat of fire impact.
    We got scared. But in vain
    1. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) April 25 2022 12: 01
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      Well, if you conduct a full-scale "rail war" as in 43g. Then they will not have enough repair trains. And for the protection of railway tracks and bridges, it is necessary to allocate at least 10 percent of the APU.
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 25 2022 12: 34
        +1
        It remains to find Zaslonov together with a detachment in western Ukraine
        1. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) April 25 2022 16: 06
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          Well, you know .. our MTR forces are also not made with a finger. Yes, and the Wagner guys are dashing. And send them to western Ukraine like two fingers on the asphalt
    2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 25 2022 14: 41
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      The real decision was - at the very beginning to present an ultimatum to Poland about the hub that was just appearing there, with the threat of fire impact.
      We got scared. But in vain

      I admit that some of us, simple sinners, honestly working in our fields, far from politics and military issues, could not see the consequences of such cowardice.
      But the professionals sitting in government and headquarters were OBLIGED to understand the further course of events.
      There is nothing unusual in it, requiring "brilliant foresight". It turns out - they deliberately went to such consequences, and (or) turned out to be incompetent
    3. Ivan IV Vasilievich (Ivan IV Vasilyevich) April 25 2022 23: 41
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      Quote: Alexey Davydov
      And the result?

      bring down at least one span of the bridge - and it is incapacitated. Here, no one is talking about breaking the paths themselves (which can be restored in a few hours). I would look at those Stakhanovites who will put the span of the reinforced concrete bridge in place at least in a week. A bridge is not a target that can be missed with high-precision. The Americans in Yugoslavia superimposed very precisely, and this was more than 20 years ago

      To be honest, some "patriotic experts" surprise me. In some cases, their "Caliber" or KAB fly right "through the window", in others they cannot get into the bridge. You already somehow decide for yourself, and be objective
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 26 2022 01: 15
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        I would look at those Stakhanovites who will put the span of the reinforced concrete bridge in place at least in a week.

        Railway bridges are usually metal truss and beam structures. Small single-span - well amenable to repair and restoration. Whether there are multi-span bridges there - I don’t know, I won’t lie.

        bring down at least one span of the bridge - and it is incapacitated. Here, no one is talking about breaking the paths themselves (which can be restored in a few hours).

        The bridge is a difficult target, the pilots will tell you that. And getting into it and destroying it is much more difficult than a warehouse. It is a fact. This time.
        Bridges on supply routes for the enemy are strategic objects, there are few of them, and, unlike rails, they can be well protected by air defense systems. This is two.
        So you and I get: a complex target that requires more consumption of high-precision weapons, exposure time and a longer stay in the air defense zone, and the object air defense itself, many times strengthened.
        In the face of the alternative - the destruction of weapons in places of concentration in warehouses, if we are forced to save precision-guided munitions - our choice is clear.
        But the situation itself is fucking
        1. Ivan IV Vasilievich (Ivan IV Vasilyevich) April 26 2022 08: 28
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          Quote: Alexey Davydov
          The bridge is a difficult target, the pilots will tell you that. And get into it

          free-falling bombs - no doubt. This has been proven by history. But not by KABs or guided missiles. You seem to hear no one but yourself. Or you justify those who, for some reason, do not want to deprive the enemy of supplies from abroad.
          1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
            Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 26 2022 10: 59
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            A difficult goal is the ineffectiveness of remote weapons and our losses of aircraft and pilots
            1. Ivan IV Vasilievich (Ivan IV Vasilyevich) April 26 2022 14: 38
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              When they want, all problems can be solved (and you sit and suck it out of your finger)

              Today in Odessa, a missile attack was carried out on the critical railway bridge in Zatoka. This bridge clogs the entire southern Bessarabia.


              Previously, strikes were made on railway bridges in the region of Dnepropetrovsk

              Only it was necessary to do this from the very beginning, and strike not separately, but in one gulp. There are not so many critically important bridges, just over 20. Tales about a missile not hitting a bridge can be told elsewhere. As well as the fact that 500 kg is not enough to destroy the span.
              1. Vdars Offline Vdars
                Vdars (Victor) April 26 2022 16: 03
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                Here everything rests on the "boring matter of probability theory"!