Is it worth creating the "Liberation Army of Ukraine" from Ukrainian prisoners of war?


In recent days, reports have been pouring in about the mass surrender of Ukrainian servicemen in the Mariupol region. There is nothing to be surprised here: the criminal Kyiv regime deliberately left them to die there, not allowing them to leave this trap in a timely manner and having neither the ability nor the desire to release them. The number of those who surrendered to the mercy of the servicemen of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the DPR is already running into the thousands, and a natural question arises - what to do with all these people, as well as with those who will soon find themselves in the "cauldrons" in the Donbass.


It should be noted that from the very beginning of the special military operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine, President Putin ordered that the servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine be treated with the greatest possible humanity. In captivity, they are treated, fed with borscht and have soul-saving conversations. Against the background of what some Ukrainian monsters in uniform are doing with Russian prisoners of war, this causes quite understandable indignation among many of our compatriots. How justified is such a humane attitude?

In fact, emotions aside, this approach has a rational basis. Each VESushnik or National Guardsman who voluntarily surrenders as a prisoner may not in the future cause the death or injury of a serviceman of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the DPR and the LPR. Extra funerals and zinc coffins will not come to many addresses. Perhaps there will be less destruction of infrastructure if the defenders have the choice to “heroically” die or lay down their arms and be captured, where they will not be tortured to death and not shot extrajudicially, as some Ukrainian sadists would do. Yes, these are different approaches, but Russia is really not Nazi Ukraine, and this is something to be proud of.

We must understand that very different people are fighting against us on the other side of the front line. There are frankly “stoned” Nazis there with hands stained with blood up to the shoulders, on which there is nowhere to put brands. There are military personnel who are simply doing their military duty. There are stupid boys who fell for aggressive Russophobic propaganda and went to fight the "occupiers", thinking that it would be like in computer "shooters". There are contract soldiers who joined the army only because they could not find another reliable job with a normal salary in modern Ukraine. There are men who, in general, do not need this whole war against Russia for nothing, but they were not lucky enough to fall under mobilization, when they were literally grabbed by the arms, handed a summons and sent to the draft board. Different people there, and they fight in different ways.

The question is what to do with them after surrender? Create concentration camps to keep them until the end of hostilities? But, excuse me, after the word “concentration camp” in the Ukrainian and foreign, as well as in the domestic liberal press, this will begin ... Although in fairness it should be recalled that the creators of the very idea of ​​​​concentration camps are not the “bloody scoop”, but the “democratic” Anglo-Saxons. The first concentration camps for prisoners of war appeared during the American Civil War in 1861-1865. This idea was then developed by the British during the Boer War of 1899-1865 in South Africa. And only then it was picked up by the Third Reich, since Adolf Hitler was a big fan of the colonial policy United Kingdom, having learned a lot from him.

Nazi Germany has already received the Nuremberg Tribunal, Ukraine, the United States and Great Britain, let's hope, will still have to wait. Let's try not to be like them. So what to do with thousands of Ukrainian prisoners of war?

Obviously, the decision for each must be made individually. It is necessary to check who and how ended up at the front and what they have already managed to do there. Even the “Azovites” (“Azov” is an extremist organization banned in the Russian Federation) in a good way should not be “brought down” during detention, but taken alive and sent to a military tribunal. To Donetsk, where there is no moratorium on the death penalty. From an open trial, where all the crimes of the Nazis will be made public, there will be more practical benefits in the information war with the West. Ordinary Europeans and Americans already now have questions to their governments, for which they are now suffering so much, having lost their usual high level of well-being. When they find out that they were actually robbed by their own elites in order to support the criminal Nazi regime in Kyiv, the consequences for the EU and the US can be absolutely deplorable.

Each prisoner of war must be checked. Yes, now they are all crying on camera when they are shown the extrajudicial executions and torture of our guys. Yes, they all say now that they served as cooks and drivers and did nothing wrong. Yes, surely someone will even be able to evade the well-deserved responsibility by hiding their crimes. But it is necessary, if possible, to approach each case individually. And after that they should be given one more choice.

Option 1. You will still have to answer for the actions of the regime that these people went to serve. And not with crocodile tears on camera, but with real deeds. Everyone who “kind of repented” will first have to be taken to Donetsk to the “Alley of Angels”, and then sent to the labor army, which will restore everything destroyed in the DPR and LPR by many years of shelling by the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard of Ukraine. Let them redeem their share of guilt by personal labor within a certain period, which will be written in the contract of each. It will be fair.

Option 2. If one of these people really repented, or initially did not support the criminal Kyiv regime, but was forcibly mobilized, then one can form the “Liberation Army of Ukraine” from them. After a thorough check of their intentions, including with the help of a polygraph, from former prisoners of war who are ready to fight against the puppet pro-Western Nazi authorities, it is possible to form detachments that will fight side by side with the military personnel of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the DPR and the LPR. Naturally, under Russian command and vigilant control. If one of the “changed shoes” turns out to be a deceiver and runs back, then it’s not worth taking him prisoner for the second time.

The creation of the "Army of the Liberation of Ukraine" from among those who voluntarily laid down their arms and are ready to prove their loyalty with their blood will have a very serious media and propaganda effect. Perhaps the Kremlin and the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces should think about this option.
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  1. dub0vitsky Online dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) April 18 2022 12: 15
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    It's time for you to change the tone of whining - "what will Princess Marya Alekseevna think" to real reasoning. No need for cyclopean containment sites. It is impossible to keep order there. There won't be many prisoners. Not tens or hundreds of thousands. To keep behind a thorn is primarily in their own interests. What will non-humans with a swastika do with them if they appear at home, in territories that have not yet been liberated? In the best case, they will put them under arms; in the worst case, they will shoot them. What do you like more, are you our humane? Keep in acceptable conditions, if it is so impatient, allow observers to see them, who will be witnesses. Filter for crimes. The rest, after all this mess, organize communist brigades, and, under the supervision of local law enforcement officers, begin to restore the national economy. In the most affected places first. The term will end, when it will be decided by the new authorities of the country that was called Ukraine, let them return home.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) April 18 2022 12: 41
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      It's time for you to change the tone of whining - "what will Princess Marya Alekseevna think" to real reasoning.

      Vitya, choose expressions. I never whine anywhere, but I write strictly to the point, consistently and reasonably.

      To keep behind a thorn is primarily in their own interests. What will non-humans with a swastika do with them if they appear at home, in territories that have not yet been liberated?

      Where in the text of the article is there a proposal to release them into the wild? Please make it bold.

      What do you like more, are you our humane?

      I'm not yours, and I'm not humane. I'm just smart and far-sighted.
      1. magma Offline magma
        magma (Tatyana) April 19 2022 11: 44
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        Quote: Marzhetsky
        I'm just smart and farsighted.

        I'm afraid you are wishful thinking. Something has been bugging you lately. And for such we have a proverb - every cricket know your hearth.

        I remember "Kin dza dza":

        If you had brains, you would now study at the MIMO, and not here you would powder everyone's mood.
    2. ZmikeV Offline ZmikeV
      ZmikeV (Michael) April 18 2022 16: 46
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      Quote: dub0vitsky
      What do you like more, are you our humane?

      I do not share your sarcasm. Humanism (within reason) can also be a serious weapon. Not to become like geeks is a noble task.
    3. Orthodox Offline Orthodox
      Orthodox (Orthodox) April 18 2022 17: 29
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      What is "Ukraine"? Southern Federal District of Russia!!!
      1. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
        Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) April 21 2022 10: 53
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        Nazis and the most scumbags - for life
        Just criminals - to the front line, to the very first line - "on live bait"
        The rest of the prisoners - for labor re-education, to restore the Donbass
    4. Victorio Offline Victorio
      Victorio (Victorio) April 23 2022 22: 21
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      Quote: dub0vitsky
      At best, put under the gun

      Sladkov, in one of his reports, said that some ukroboys were captured for the second time
  2. Lis_Domino Offline Lis_Domino
    Lis_Domino (Sergei) April 18 2022 13: 05
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    who does not want to fight the Nazis - a shovel in the teeth and go ahead - restore the economy, sowing is on the nose, but a lot of work, damn it
  3. Yuri V.A Offline Yuri V.A
    Yuri V.A (Yuri) April 18 2022 13: 07
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    Naturally, after confession in the "secret office" send the unmarried to labor camps for reforging, but first I would like to know what status the cleared territories will have?
    1. Orthodox Offline Orthodox
      Orthodox (Orthodox) April 18 2022 17: 32
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      No more "Ukrainians"! All this is primordially Russian lands!
      1. Yuri V.A Offline Yuri V.A
        Yuri V.A (Yuri) April 19 2022 03: 38
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        It would be nice, but the Supreme Commander said that there would be no occupation, although accession is not an occupation
        1. Orthodox Offline Orthodox
          Orthodox (Orthodox) April 19 2022 10: 35
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          Introduce martial law and transfer power to intelligent military! "Supreme" does not pull!
  4. Eduard Aplombov Offline Eduard Aplombov
    Eduard Aplombov (Eduard Aplombov) April 18 2022 14: 02
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    in the photo, the far right is clearly an Arab mercenary
    of those who are ready to correct themselves from Ukrainianism, it is possible to organize a labor army to restore industry and social housing and not any weapons in their hands
    select documents and issue a temporary certificate, the term for working out will be set by the court or the military administration
  5. 1_2 Offline 1_2
    1_2 (Ducks are flying) April 18 2022 14: 25
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    they surrendered because they realized that a fox or a woman with a scythe had come running to them, and not because they realized that they were following the criminal orders of the criminal regime of the US clown, you can’t give them weapons (they will run away with weapons to their own), you can use them for mine clearance or as cattle in construction (20 years) until they die
    1. GIS Offline GIS
      GIS (Ildus) April 18 2022 14: 44
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      during the cleaning of the territory and their restoration In the DPR and LPR, not only hundreds of dead, but also hundreds of weapons will be dug up. How can you keep track of all this?
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  7. dub0vitsky Online dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) April 18 2022 14: 39
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    Quote: Yuri V.A.
    Naturally, after confession in the "secret office" send the unmarried to labor camps for reforging, but first I would like to know what status the cleared territories will have?

    As long as we are present there, the status is quite certain. The occupation zone, no matter what our slimy politicians say about either not a war, or not an operation. And the military administration will steer there. Diplomatically named military-civilian. After clearing the territory of active militants, the administration will transfer control to trusted local personnel. Remaining an observer and power support, if anything. Next - local elections, a referendum on joining Russia, naturally in areas that gravitate towards this decision. The rest is called (part) Novorossiya, part-Little Russia. (they will choose themselves, in referendums, on the adoption of constitutions). Russian bases will remain where joining Russia will not take place. The first thing is the reform of education. Textbooks in the oven. All teachers, to a single one, should be sent through certification, who actively worked on brainwashing, into labor brigades for the restoration of the national economy. Deprive diplomas and the right to work in the field of education. Forever. Complete replacement of scientific material. The grown up youth should be sent to study in secondary vocational institutions. Let them learn to work, mainly physical. In five or seven years, open access to higher education. Labor made a man out of a monkey.


    These are brought up by hard unskilled labor.
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 18 2022 15: 39
      +1
      I didn't find anything in this comment that I disagree with.
    2. Mikhail Novikov Offline Mikhail Novikov
      Mikhail Novikov (Mikhail Novikov) April 19 2022 16: 06
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      I would like to add: it is not only teachers who need to be assessed. Permission to publish any textbook should be given only by Russia.
  8. dub0vitsky Online dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) April 18 2022 16: 56
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    Quote: GIS
    during the cleaning of the territory and their restoration In the DPR and LPR, not only hundreds of dead, but also hundreds of weapons will be dug up. How can you keep track of all this?

    What about the care of the buried? They lie to themselves, quietly and do not touch anyone. And with weapons it will be like after the Second World War. Search, search, fine, and for large warehouses, plant for a long time. If you have better options - let's post it.
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  11. akm8226 Offline akm8226
    akm8226 April 18 2022 19: 27
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    Let them redeem their share of guilt by personal labor within a certain period, which will be written in the contract of each. It will be fair.
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  13. lomograph Offline lomograph
    lomograph (Igor) April 18 2022 20: 46
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    The Liberation Army - no, they are not mentally adapted to this matter, just give up the slack - they will immediately begin to take away the entrusted military property and scatter in different directions.
    The labor army is their limit, there they will have something to do.
  14. Mikhail Krasyukov (Mikhail Krasyukov) April 18 2022 21: 05
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    Force them to rebuild what they destroyed, like German prisoners after the war
  15. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker April 18 2022 21: 43
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    Basurin once said that all the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass are a criminal. They all understood who they were shooting at and who they were killing. And I am surprised that after such words, there are so many prisoners.
    In 2015-16, Kharkiv residents worked for us, they installed equipment. One over 60 and two young under 25. So they seriously argued that in Odessa they set themselves on fire, and Lugansk and Donetsk were shelling and blowing themselves up. At the time I didn't know what to call this behavior. And now in Israel these refugees were immediately diagnosed as mentally ill. How are they treated there? No one feeds them borscht for sure. Such only in the lobeshnik, he will put their brains in the right row! No prisoners, no problem. Leopard change his spots!
  16. Anatoly Porotnikov (Anatoly Porotnikov) April 18 2022 22: 47
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    Of these, you need to create the "Army of the restoration of Donbass."
  17. Valentin Yushkov (Valentin Yushkov) April 18 2022 23: 19
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    Sergey, firstly, you need to find out for yourself what the trident means - the Khazar tamga and the blue-white flag. Trident - Khazar tamga, METIL CATTLE. That the Ukrainian army fought under the YELLOW-BLUE flag in the Battle of Grunwald in 1410. But under the blue - yellow (which Ukraine now has), this is the banner
    symbol of patients with Down syndrome. So you need to treat with these symbols, explain who they are people or cattle.
  18. Siegfried Offline Siegfried
    Siegfried (Gennady) April 19 2022 01: 02
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    prisoners will not fight against the Armed Forces of Ukraine. In the Armed Forces of Ukraine were mostly "ideological" - patriots and Nazis. It was clear to everyone that if you join the Armed Forces of Ukraine, you will fight against the Donbass. Who normal would do that?

    Now, when the APU is forcibly recruiting reservists, then of course there will be people who are dissatisfied with the regime. But to fight against their own? And in general to fight?
    It is possible to offer participation in ensuring law and order in the liberated territories without weapons, organizing humanitarian aid and other politically neutral tasks. Although there are risks.
  19. sgr291158 Offline sgr291158
    sgr291158 (Sergei) April 19 2022 06: 15
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    Filter out all the Nazis and create a recovery army from the rest. Let them restore cities, villages, enterprises.
  20. dub0vitsky Online dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) April 19 2022 10: 52
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    Quote from ZmikeV
    Quote: dub0vitsky
    What do you like more, are you our humane?

    I do not share your sarcasm. Humanism (within reason) can also be a serious weapon. Not to become like geeks is a noble task.

    You are confusing terminology and action. As a term, humanism and its reasonable application not only decorates, but also protects the lives of its own soldiers. The enemy must be given ways to surrender. But, to create units from yesterday’s enemy that are already fighting against their comrades (and what, can’t this be?), And substitute them as themselves, but, more importantly, their relatives under the knife of non-humans, what is it? The Nazis know the places of conscription, and a wide road to action opens up for them. Keeping them under protection, excluding the possibility and the need to risk their relatives, is this not humanism? I wouldn't turn my back if I was next to them in the trench. Filter in isolation, fine sieve and separating those who have stained themselves from not yet. Some for a long time in the camp, if it is possible for him to leave his life, others, at the end of hostilities, for work, hard, physical, to restore the country's economy. Under the supervision of the police, of course. Beskonvoynikov.
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  22. dub0vitsky Online dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) April 19 2022 17: 01
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    Quote: Mikhail Novikov
    I would like to add: it is not only teachers who need to be assessed. Permission to publish any textbook should be given only by Russia.

    It can be done more subtly - WITH OUR PARTICIPATION. Especially with regard to our joint history and literature of the Soviet era. Return the interpretation of events. adopted in the USSR concerning the history of Ukraine.
  23. Was Offline Was
    Was April 19 2022 18: 24
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    To restore the destroyed DPR and LPR, you need a lot of workers. By the way, even in our small town, where the Germans did not reach at one time, there are still houses built by captured Germans. There is also a German cemetery. Here is a simple answer, what to do with the ukrofascists. They will build what they themselves have destroyed. No pay or holidays.
  24. FGJCNJK Offline FGJCNJK
    FGJCNJK (Nikolai) April 19 2022 19: 30
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    Quote: 1_2
    you can use them for mine clearance or as livestock in construction (20 years) until they die

    It is right! And what was the Kremlin up to? Create an army? Have you gone completely crazy?
    Who will answer for the death of Moscow? Why did she have to be driven towards Romania?
    How many "generals and admirals" with a 3-month education are there in the courses of ensigns in the Russian army?
  25. Yuri Bryanskiy Offline Yuri Bryanskiy
    Yuri Bryanskiy (Yuri Bryansky) April 20 2022 05: 31
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    Sergey, you are really smart and far-sighted. But it is necessary to create not an AOU, but an army of Novorossiya, since the former Ukraine must be divided into parts with a special management status. We need de-Ukrainization after the Austrian and Anglo-Saxon Ukrainization.
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  27. art573 Offline art573
    art573 (Artyom Vladimirovich Yarovikov) April 27 2022 00: 45
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    On this issue, I listened to Rutskoy's interview on Karaulov's program on YouTube. Rutskaya for the creation of such formations, since their "rear" work is not needed at the present time. But again, he did not go into details of who and how will control these units, what functions they will have, where they will be formed (in the LDNR or in Russia on the territory of Russian military units). The status of such a serviceman at the first stage is not clear. but clear. that they will all enter into Russian citizenship and receive our passports and will be responsible for all actions (both correct and criminal) as citizens of Russia - or a medal or prison as a citizen of Russia in a common area, and not for a foreigner.