Why is the emergence of a “Ukrainian government in exile” dangerous?

March 6 2022 57

Apparently, the West is already ready to admit defeat in the power struggle for control over Ukraine and move on to political. According to the well-known American edition of The Washington Post, the United States is considering the possibility of creating a so-called "Ukrainian government in exile" headed by President Zelensky. For Russia, this move by Washington could create a lot of serious problems.

A Washington Post source in the White House said that in the event of the collapse of the defense of Kyiv, Vladimir Zelensky would have to be evacuated to neighboring Poland, but he allegedly refuses so far:

We are now engaged in contingency planning for all possible options.

This can greatly complicate the life of post-war Ukraine.

At first, whatever one may say, but until 2024, Vladimir Zelensky is the legitimate president of Ukraine. This is far from the virtual “President of the Light” Tikhanovskaya, about whom everyone has long forgotten. Until his presidential term expires, the US and the European Union can ignore any new authorities in Kyiv and the decisions they make, refusing to recognize them and creating obstacles to the country's economic recovery.

Secondly, once in the hands of the West, the fugitive president will be used against Russia in order to destabilize the situation in the liberated Ukraine. 30 years of independence and 8 years of active Russophobic propaganda have done their job, and a huge number of anti-Russian people have appeared in Nezalezhnaya. From Zelensky they can make a “banner of struggle against the occupiers”, which will unite both Ukrainian political emigrants around the world and the local underground, which will remain there and may begin to foul against any constructive actions to restore peace and order in this unfortunate country.

ThirdlyIf the Kremlin stops a special military operation for denazification and demilitarization, leaving at least a piece of land somewhere in Western Ukraine uncontrolled by the Russian Ministry of Defense, we will get either Idlib-2 or a new version of the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria (an extremist organization, prohibited in Russia). Having a common border with the NATO bloc, and even controlled from abroad by the "Ukrainian government in exile", this territory will turn into a source of constant headache and terrorist threat for the Russian military and law enforcement agencies.

It's a serious matter. After the end of hostilities, other problems will begin.

In fact, the Americans intend to do what Moscow should have done in 2014 immediately after the coup d'état in Kyiv. The legitimate President Yanukovych, who was forced to evacuate from Nezalezhnaya to save his life, should not just be left to stand in Rostov-on-Don, but, together with Prime Minister Mykola Azarov, put at the head of the same Ukrainian government in exile with the same tasks, if at that time the Kremlin was not morally ready for a military operation. Most likely, further history would have developed in a different, less bloody manner. And what is left for us now?

The simplest, at first glance, solution would be to prevent the evacuation of President Zelensky abroad. But how to do that? It is unlikely that today even the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation can reliably solve such a problem. In addition, the problem is not limited to Vladimir Alexandrovich alone, since, if necessary, some fugitive minister can be put at the head of such a “government in exile”. For the role of "talking head" this will be enough. It turns out that it is necessary to intercept the entire Ukrainian ruling elite without exception, and this is hardly feasible. But there is another option.

In principle, nothing prevents the implementation of a scenario that mirrors what the Maidan junta itself did in 2014. Recall that at that time Viktor Yanukovych was also the legitimate head of state, but the Verkhovna Rada recognized him as self-withdrawn from his duties and appointed acting president. president of the "bloody pastor" Oleksandr Turchynov, and at the same time early presidential elections, after which Petro Poroshenko came to power. After the liberation of Kyiv, it is quite enough to ask the deputies of the Ukrainian Parliament, who will not have time to escape from the country, whether they would be against removing the “servant of the people” who has stained himself in war crimes from his official duties, appointing some sane acting president deputy and set the date for early presidential and parliamentary elections. If they don't mind, then everything will definitely work out for us.

It is clear that in the West the results of the elections held “under the barrel of Russian machine guns” are not recognized, but what can you do? Life goes on, and in 2024 Zelensky's powers expire anyway. If they do not recognize the new government, then, probably, Ukraine will not be able to pay its debts to the IMF.

The main thing is that the elections will be recognized by Russia and Belarus, which will be able to start restoring normal business relations with denazified Ukraine. All the same, for the US and the European Union, Square is already a cut piece.

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Valentine

+2

6 March 2022 13: 57

And you, Sergei, do not think that in this operation, the legally elected President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych, illegally overthrown by a state military coup, is the figure that Russia will use after the end of forcing Ukraine to surrender, and will be a transitional "pawn" to the creation of new government bodies a new country in the person of the president, the Supreme Council and law enforcement agencies, because apart from Yanukovych we have no one to put at the temporary helm of government, and how much in our muddy world the Americans have put their "sons of bitches" more than once overthrown ...
1. gunnerminer
  
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  6 March 2022 14: 25
  
  Yanukovych did not cope with his opponents in simpler conditions. With law enforcement and military forces. And now it won't work at all.
  1. Valentine
    
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    6 March 2022 15: 01
    
    Yes, he doesn’t need to cope with anything, he will simply be a “wedding general” during all the preparations for the election of a new government in a new state with the assistance of our “competent” comrades, but whether he is a legitimate president or not is up to us to decide, not Yankees with Jimmy, and even more so with psheks. Kyiv can be made a county town, and the capital of the future state can be moved to Donetsk or Kharkov. Many good guys will come to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, who are more than enough, and they don’t need an army, except for border guards, as such, our bases will be throughout Ukraine. ... And so, by the way, I talked with the former Berkut, who were burned on the Maidan, so he said that the time would come and he and his guys, without weapons, would tear the throats of the Nazis with their teeth for their humiliation and insults, and such never forgiven. The problem will only be with Galicia - now thousands of coffins are going there, and this is a continuation of hatred for the next centuries, unless the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is broken and the Poles are given it all, and they already know what to do with these murderers of two hundred thousands of peaceful Poles during WWII. I am simply presenting my couch thoughts to you, as to my own opponent from another camp, and I am impressed by your style of NON-HAM conversation, as your brothers often do.
    1. gunnerminer
      
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      6 March 2022 15: 25
      
      "competent" comrades
      
      Members of the EDRO General Council? LDPR? Rosmol? Party New people? Kudrin with Chubais?
      
      The problem will be only with Galicia - now thousands of coffins are going there,
      
      There are no hostilities in Western Ukraine yet. Coffins go to all others
      Ukrainian settlements.
      1. Valentine
        
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        6 March 2022 16: 23
        
        Quote: gunnerminer
        Members of the EDRO General Council? LDPR? Rosmol? Party New people? Kudrin with Chubais?
        
        But why are you exaggerating everything so sarcastically - there is a full-fledged war going on, and even a military administration, headed by a governor-general, can lead the country for the transition period, and what would be bad for the heroes of Russia Gromov or Shamanov in this position?
        
        gunnerminer
        
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        6 March 2022 17: 13
        
        Active hostilities are not eternal. Which Governor General? Example? How did Gromov show himself in peacetime, the governor of the Moscow region? Kuznetsov, the Minister of Finance, a US citizen, sends his regards to him. He robbed the Moscow region for 50 years ahead. Selling plots, buildings. Withdrawing funds in the USA.
        Why was Shamanov promptly removed from the post of governor of the Ulyanovsk region? In a simple peacetime setting? Has he matured?
    2. gunnerminer
      
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      6 March 2022 15: 42
      
      Your style of NON-HAM conversation, as your brothers often do.
      
      Anyone who dares to express his opinion is a Nazi, a Pole, a NATO member.
      1. Valentine
        
        +2
        
        6 March 2022 16: 26
        
        Yes, everyone has their own opinion - those who won the putsch call it a revolution, and the losers call it a state coup.
        
        gunnerminer
        
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        6 March 2022 17: 15
        
        We must see dissenting Nazis everywhere. This is the key to victory.
    3. Plumber Sun
      
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      6 March 2022 21: 51
      
      The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact is not only Galicia, but also the Chernivtsi region and Bessarabia (the south of the Odessa region, populated by Bulgarians gravitating towards Russia, Russians, of course, Ukrainians and Gagauz. And a little more, Greeks and Arnauts. They don’t like us in Chernivtsi, It's not a secret, but Bessarabia! This is our native land! The land for which our ancestors shed their blood. Under the command of Suvorov and Rumyantsev!
  2. zenion
    
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    6 March 2022 15: 05
    
    Yanukovych has experience, besides there is an army in which he believes.
    1. gunnerminer
      
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      6 March 2022 15: 27
      
      So there is already success. Yanukovych, it turns out, did not waste time for 8 years. Formed an army in which he believes. If only the faith was mutual.
2. rotkiv04
  
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  6 March 2022 14: 29
  
  I completely agree, Yanukovych is the only way to legalize the new government
3. Marzhecki
  
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  6 March 2022 16: 46
  
  I do not know. For this, it had to be shown to the people for a long time.
Bakht

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6 March 2022 14: 09

Legality is illegality. It doesn't matter anymore. The world that was - will not return. The West has successfully cut off the basic rules of the capitalist system. There is no inviolability of private property, no right to freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, no right to free movement of people, no system of guaranteed security. It was the West that denied the right to the inviolability of borders and the sovereignty of the state.
And after that, to say that someone does not recognize something there simply does not make sense.
Russia was limited in all rights and denied the right to security, refused to fulfill the concluded contracts. It is quite officially stated that the Russian economy must be destroyed, and the president must be killed.
This is all terrible, but at the same time, it completely relieves Russia of the need to follow Western rules.
So the creation of a government in exile does not change anything in this situation.
1. gunnerminer
  
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  6 March 2022 14: 23
  
  This is all terrible, but at the same time, it completely relieves Russia of the need to follow Western rules.
  
  In Russia, in a couple of weeks, you cannot get rid of the capitalist system of the wild stage. You have to play on their field, by their rules. Leaning against the Chinese economy will not work. Different settings.
  
  The creation of a Ukrainian government in exile is only a matter of time. No one knows from whom to create a pro-Russian Ukrainian government. Such shots were not prepared.
  1. alexey alexeyev_2
    
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    6 March 2022 15: 42
    
    And fuck us with a pro-Russian Ukrainian government .. At first, the occupation administration will do. We have experience
    1. gunnerminer
      
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      6 March 2022 15: 59
      
      There is no experience. Russian units did not occupy Ukraine. There is no war. There is an operation.
      Here even in Dagestan, in the North Caucasus, it is not possible to establish the work of the local administration. They steal as before capital punishment.
      1. alexey alexeyev_2
        
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        6 March 2022 16: 06
        
        And the occupation administration of the Soviet army in East Germany at 45 is what. Here, relying on the force of arms, they denazified Germany. Khokhols will not voluntarily denazify.
        
        gunnerminer
        
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        6 March 2022 16: 12
        
        You compared an airship to a cucumber. Read the educational program about how this procedure was carried out in the GDR and in the FRG. There is no Soviet Army, wake up. And there is no Soviet power. Think about what the Russian administration can offer the local population? Especially who visited the laborers in Poland, Romania, Finland, Belgium, the Netherlands, Greece.
2. Artyom76
  
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  6 March 2022 15: 08
  
  I agree with you. The rules are now set by the strongest, the weak will be crushed, the world has changed, the Rubicon has been passed, and there will be no more as it was before. And for this, it doesn’t matter who wants what there in the FSA and Geyrop. There is a big geopolitical game going on, the confrontation between Russia and the West has gained momentum with renewed vigor. And no one cares about Ukrainians (except for the Russian Federation), they are just pawns in this game.
  1. gunnerminer
    
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    6 March 2022 15: 28
    
    Here we are at war with pawns. And the main enemy is fighting from afar, native infantry, mercenaries.
    Shows his ability to organize a hybrid war. About which the most advanced political scientists have only recently begun to speak at scientific and practical conferences.
3. Marzhecki
  
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  6 March 2022 16: 46
  
  This government will complicate a lot for Russia
AND

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6 March 2022 14: 12

All the provocateurs of Belarus, Russia and Ukraine always run and hide in Poland? By the hands of America and Britain, Poland will be the main provocateur after Ukraine.
1. gunnerminer
  
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  6 March 2022 14: 18
  
  NATO has a wide choice of provocateurs. But ours is much more modest.
  1. Artyom76
    
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    6 March 2022 15: 12
    
    Who do you have? Russia has never had provocations and provocateurs, there were only traitors, unfortunately! Only your owners and their tame dogs and ferrets suffer from provocations!
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gunnerminer

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6 March 2022 14: 17

In fact, the Americans intend to do what Moscow should have done in 2014 immediately after the coup d'état in Kyiv.

The Americans did not need to organize pipelines for the supply of methane to the EU, and to Turkey.
AND

+1

6 March 2022 14: 29

Quote: gunnerminer
NATO has a wide choice of provocateurs. But ours is much more modest.

Woke up? You have a very modest choice in NATO, the American boss said he fell, did push-ups, lay down, sit ... You need to listen to the owner!
1. gunnerminer
  
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  6 March 2022 16: 00
  
  Here you are listening to him. Since 1988.
cooper

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6 March 2022 14: 36

Yeah, roughly speaking, the Russian authorities screwed up in 2013-2015 ...
General Black

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6 March 2022 14: 46

Has anyone heard about the government of Abkhazia in exile since 2008? Except that it was expelled. BUT?
Siegfried

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6 March 2022 14: 53

Who is generally responsible for the information war? Is it a fact or not a fact that a residential multi-storey building with people was blown up in Kharkov to take pictures of alleged actions of the RF Armed Forces?
If this is a fact, then why is it not shouted about on all channels? Why didn’t they convene an emergency press conference, where it would be said - then, by that Nazi battalion, under the command of that ghoul, at such and such a time a residential building numbered by such and such was blown up along with the residents, to accuse the RF Armed Forces of attacks on residential areas. The fact that the Western media are happy to use these photos in their propaganda makes them complicit. Thus, they use the death of these people, approve of such actions of the Nazi parts of Ukraine - kill your civilians, we will pass it off as the actions of the Russians! Western media have lost their last moral and moral guidelines. Russia is demanding the creation of a commission that will collect chemical samples at the site of the explosion to identify the explosive.

We need to understand that it is the actions of the Nazis and the actions of the regime that are the only ammunition in our arsenal of information warfare. They should not rarely be fired blanks, but fired with these facts with whole regiments of hurricanes and hail. It is necessary to tear off the mask of an innocent victim from the Kiev regime and show this Nazi mug to the whole world. Such facts as in Kharkov need to be promoted to the maximum. It is not clear what we think there and who is responsible for it.
1. Just a cat
  
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  6 March 2022 15: 00
  
  collect after each fake conference? not in Kharkov, so in Syria they will photograph the house.
2. gunnerminer
  
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  6 March 2022 15: 35
  
  All the moves and tricks of the Nazis are difficult to track. They are engaged in provocations around the clock, and not only during working hours, with weekends and holidays. NATO hired, recruited professionals. And not non-core dropouts, because of registration, and because of kinship with good people.
3. Bakht
  
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  6 March 2022 16: 08
  
  No press conference will help. The media is still in the hands of the enemy.
  
  You just have to do your job. Once the operation has begun, it must be completed. The worst thing that can be is to stop halfway.
  1. gunnerminer
    
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    7 March 2022 09: 12
    
    On the operation in Iraq, the Coalition spent 45 days. Of these, 38 days are only for massive round-the-clock airstrikes. Aviation of the Coalition hung in the air around the clock. Only after air strikes did armored and motorized rifle units move forward. The Russian special operation will not take less than 50 days. Time works for the defender. Then it will be necessary to use the troops of the Russian National Guard, all types of special forces, including the GUIN special forces, to denazify Ukraine.
Expert_Analyst_Forecaster

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6 March 2022 15: 11

Life goes on, and in 2024 Zelensky's powers expire anyway.

I don’t understand who should care about Zelensky’s powers?
It is necessary to build new states knowing that the West does not recognize them. There are three pluses for the economic development of the new republics - the refusal to pay the debts of the former Ukraine, the refusal to spend on the army, the opportunity to cooperate with the Russian Federation for mutual benefit.
Not the worst starting conditions.

But first, denazification. In the meantime, demilitarization. Kyiv is kaput!
1. gunnerminer
  
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  6 March 2022 15: 38
  
  It is necessary to build new states knowing that the West does not recognize them
  
  Such a surprise ! But what about the megacities with a population of over one million in Siberia and the Far East? The Russian Ministry of Defense put forward a great idea! With priority development areas?
2. gunnerminer
  
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  6 March 2022 16: 03
  
  But first, denazification. In the meantime, demilitarization. Kyiv is kaput!
  
  How to organize and ensure denazification, the minds of Russia began to think better.
3. gunnerminer
  
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  6 March 2022 16: 07
  
  But first, denazification.
  
  Whom, where? Where is political information in educational institutions, in public places? Where are the performances of the combatants? Where is the broadcast of the awards of the Heroes of Russia? Where are the performances of Russian artists, cultural figures with anti-Nazi, anti-NATO satire? Why is the policy of NATO and the USA not ridiculed? Where are the performances of Olympians against NATO? Where are the collective letters of workers, big owners, big business executives? Why are large donations to the fund of refugees, to the fund of the Russian Ministry of Defense from Russian business captains not promoted? Why did their yachts end up in Europe and not in Sochi?
NikolayN

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6 March 2022 15: 17

I suggest you look at things soberly. Who would Yanukovych lead in Ukraine? Nobody obeyed him anymore. The option of a government in exile, I think, was considered. Provisional military administrations will actually manage individual territories. In general, this may lead to the division of Ukraine into several territories. Those. it will cease to exist.
1. gunnerminer
  
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  6 March 2022 15: 40
  
  Provisional military administrations will actually manage individual territories.
  
  This did not work out even in small Chechnya. Until the Tsentoroyevskys were involved.
  
  Those. it will cease to exist.
  
  How to provide for it? Getting ready for the sowing season.
sapper2

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6 March 2022 15: 18

Probably there are ways to solve this problem.... On such a scale, it would not make sense to start an operation if the political steps after its implementation were not calculated.
1. gunnerminer
  
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  6 March 2022 16: 16
  
  Calculate the steps, calculated. And here's how to walk, and translate the calculated into reality! NATO did not sign a non-interference agreement.
AND

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6 March 2022 15: 49

Quote: gunnerminer
Provisional military administrations will actually manage individual territories.

This did not work out even in small Chechnya. Until the Tsentoroyevskys were involved.

Those. it will cease to exist.

How to provide for it? Getting ready for the sowing season.

Is your headquarters of euro cybertroops in Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia doing its propaganda badly? They probably pay very little, everything has to be paid for Russian gas and oil. And in Ukraine, how much money they poured, they poured in, and now bye, bye, yama.
It's like changing shoes I say mine. We definitely do not need such an eternally downvoted traitor who always wrote everything against the Russian Federation. To the owner to clean the boots ...
It became very clear that Russia took you by the tail well. oh how they sang, how they sang ....
1. gunnerminer
  
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  6 March 2022 16: 17
  
  You would attend Russian language courses. With written home exercises.
AND

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6 March 2022 16: 05

Quote: gunnerminer
Here you are listening to him. Since 1988.

Here everyone knows only you and your Western, cheap propaganda. What country are you a patriot of? Who are you praising here? You only see one negative about Russia. Did you change your shoes after Ukraine? Have you already lost so quickly?
AND

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6 March 2022 16: 33

Quote: gunnerminer
You would attend Russian language courses. With written home exercises.

Another translation of the arrows? But in essence, where, amero-euro spy propaganda?
1. gunnerminer
  
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  6 March 2022 17: 20
  
  Read from the beginning.
AND

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6 March 2022 17: 36

Quote: gunnerminer
Read from the beginning.

From the very beginning:

It's like changing shoes I say mine. We definitely do not need such an eternally downvoted traitor who always wrote everything against the Russian Federation. To the owner to clean the boots ...
It became very clear that Russia took you by the tail well. oh how they sang, how they sang ....
Everyone here knows you and your Western, cheap propaganda. What country are you a patriot of? Who are you praising here? From you only reeks of one negative about Russia. American euro spy!
1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
  
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  7 March 2022 04: 18
  
  American euro spy!
  
  What kind of spy is he? The usual cheap stuff parasitizing on the site.
  His comments with answers often take up to half of all reader responses to articles.
  "Thank you" to everyone who replies - you're helping to make the comment section less readable.
  1. gunnerminer
    
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    7 March 2022 09: 14
    
    Discuss financial topics more often, like in VO! It's nice to read a financial analyst for a major oil and gas company.
oberon2000oberon

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6 March 2022 22: 43

It is clear what - from outside Ukraine they will even more so not care what is happening there. And from there they will be able to fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian.
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kriten

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7 March 2022 11: 49

Judging by the article, we are again preparing to decide whether the West likes or dislikes the decision. It would not be easy to warn that if he does harm from Poland, we will give him there, together with the American embassy. The most dangerous thing is that he nests not only in NGOs and the media, but also in the Kremlin, in Putin's entourage and in the government.
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Taisiya_2

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7 March 2022 14: 52

acc. with the Constitution of Ukraine, the powers of the President of Ukraine are terminated ahead of time in the event of:
1) resignation;
2) the inability to exercise their powers for health reasons;
3) post removal in impeachment order;
Xnumx) death.
Only. There are no other reasons.
At one time, Poroshenko was elected, amending the norms of the Constitution of Ukraine. With the legally elected Yanukovych alive. There was a legal conflict. RF by the decision of Moscow. the court recognized Poroshenko as elected in violation of Cons. Ukraine. Although they continued to work with him - you need to communicate with someone. Then Poroshenko was looking for ways out of this collision.
Putin acts exclusively in the legal field. And with Ze everything will be according to the law. And Ze is legally elected.
There is only one way: he can be removed from the post of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine by way of impeachment if he commits a state crime. treason or other crime. These conclusions are given by the commission of inquiry, special. prosecutor, etc. Not just everything.
1. Taisiya_2
  
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  7 March 2022 14: 57
  
  Here Americans in such cases do not stand on ceremony with the overthrown presidents. To avoid red tape in compliance with legal norms.
Siegfried

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7 March 2022 15: 18

Zelensky in exile or in Lviv might be a good option. If the Russian side organizes real elections, where really worthy candidates will be proposed and that part of Ukraine that will be liberated will choose its own government and local government, if this choice will be approved by the people, if the government chosen by the Ukrainians themselves will be in their eyes legitimate, then Zelensky and his whole gang of freaks will lose their legitimacy in the eyes of the Ukrainians. Nobody really liked them anyway.

After the loss of legitimacy in the eyes of the Ukrainians themselves (in the liberated territory), Zelensky and So. will eventually lose their support in the West. The EU will be interested in normalizing the situation, sooner or later the EU will have to come to terms with the new reality. They need Zelensky only in order to prevent the recognition of the new Ukrainian government in the world, access to foreign assets, etc. The question will arise, who is responsible for Ukraine's debts to the IMF and other creditors? Who is responsible for trade agreements? If Zelensky in Lviv is responsible for this, then for God's sake! Then there will be two Ukraines, one western, the other east of the Dnieper. The EU will receive western Ukraine for maintenance with the Zelensky president and all the debts of Ukraine. Great option for me. Let them take away all foreign assets, trade agreements and debts, all the "elite", all sing-alongs like Gordon, and let them boil in their cauldron as much as they like. The EU will be forced to support them, and they will continue to steal EU money.