Point of no return passed: Putin set in motion his master plan for Ukraine


At the Beijing Olympics, which ended yesterday, on February 18, our hockey players defeated the Swedes in the semi-final in a tough shootout match and reached the final, where the Finns were already waiting for them. The decisive 8th bullet was scored by the youngest in the national team, 20-year-old Arseniy Gritsyuk.


I don't think Putin will watch hockey today

- this is how the presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov commented on this event.

And indeed, it must be admitted that on February 18, Putin was no longer up to hockey. In the morning, real hostilities began on the line of contact between the DPR and LPR corps and units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

In the direction of Gorlovka, the infantry of the Armed Forces of Ukraine breaks through! There is an infantry shooting battle! In the area of ​​the village Panteleymonovka (10 km south of Gorlovka) parts of the DPR have already entered into contact. Residents in basements, children from school No. 19 are being evacuated. In the morning, at about 10:20 Moscow time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Chapaev fired on the outskirts of Pervomaisk. Having received an order to respond to the Ukronazis, the NAF gave an answer on the positions of the UAF, and they fell silent for a while. But after a short lull, they opened fire again... But in the village of Novozvanovka in the territory of the Lugansk region controlled by Kiev. Judging by the report of our insiders, the Armed Forces of Ukraine covered Novozvanovka with 120 mm mortars, about 30-40 minutes flew into the settlement. But, as usual, the ukrovoyaks decided to define their illness as a feat - and sent TV workers to the village to film the consequences of the “Russian raid”. Tomorrow we expect a video with stuffing on Ukrainian TV.

These are messages from the field. As you can see, Biden leaves us no chance not to intervene, in order to later blame the Russian Federation in full, with all the ensuing consequences. How can the Kremlin avoid such a development of events? Zelensky, it seems, Biden has already bent. The plan “A” proposed by us (the agreement) is collapsing before our eyes. Biden turned on his plan "C" and systematically twists the noose around Moscow's neck. At the same time, Putin is suspiciously calm. I noticed this even at his press conference with German Chancellor Scholz, where he said his sacramental phrase: "Everything is going according to plan!". According to his plan! I haven't seen Putin so calm and confident for a long time. It seems that the proposed plan "B" of the GDP, has entered its final stage.

Finnish President Sauli Niinistö, who has long maintained personal informal relations with Putin, recently shared his observations that about 7 months ago, Putin somehow drastically changed the style of his usual communication with him, becoming extremely laconic, extremely collected and mobilized. It is as if he has made some very important decision for himself and is now gathering all his strength into a fist to implement it. Different people behave differently in similar situations. Someone, in conditions of uncertainty and multitasking, gathers, mobilizing all reserves, concentrating all resources into a single fist, and someone becomes limp, like a sourdough, and falls into prostration, followed by a stupor. The first ones include Boris Yeltsin (no matter how anyone treats him here) and Old Man Lukashenko, the second ones are Vegetable-Yanukovych, who 8 years ago during the coup d'état got sour and "floated", eventually handing over his country to be torn to pieces by pro-American bastards.

It must be admitted that the actions of the opposing side are easily predictable, if not obvious, I am sure that Putin has prepared his counterplan C1 for this plan “C” of Biden. The Americans have never been distinguished by invention and flight of fancy, the variety of tactical thought is definitely not their forte. They always follow the pattern, if it worked once, then why won't it work again? Maybe this scheme works with someone else, but here they have to deal with the unpredictable Putin. What he will throw out this time, no one knows. This is what scares our “partners”.

The fact that they did not take him by surprise with their actions is suggested by several factors at once. I will present them to you sequentially so that some especially advanced comrades do not accuse me of having driven you some kind of bullshit before, while they are definitely privy to the Kremlin’s plans (I’m over such unfortunate predictors I laugh loudly and homeric, thank God, no one knows the plans of the Kremlin). But even a standing clock shows the exact time twice a day, which the false prophets count on. I'm not trying to guess, I'm analyzing. Let's move on to the facts.

Concentration of forces in the NPM


The first thing that bothered me. On December 30 last year, the Associated Press, citing a Pentagon spokesman, reported that US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin ordered the American strike aircraft carrier group led by the aircraft carrier Harry Truman to be left in the Mediterranean Sea due to the situation around Ukraine. According to the agency, this happened "against the backdrop of concerns about the accumulation of thousands of Russian troops near the border with Ukraine." The aircraft carrier, as part of a strike group of five US Navy ships, was heading for the Middle East, however, according to a Defense Department spokesman, plans changed and it turned around a few nautical miles short of the Suez Canal. “This is necessary in order to reassure US allies and partners in the region,” the source said. As a result, the carrier group, instead of basking now off the coast of the Red Sea, is “freezing” its asses in the “cold” waters of the Ionian Sea somewhere between Greece and Italy in the area of ​​​​responsibility of the 6th Fleet of the US Navy. In addition to the aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman, the group includes the guided missile cruiser USS San Jacinto, the destroyers USS Bainbridge, USS Cole, USS Gravely, USS Jason Dunham, and the Norwegian frigate Fridtjof.

The second point that alerted. In the same place in the SPM, in addition to the above-mentioned AUG, there were two more Allied AUGs, one French, led by the aircraft carrier R-91 Charles de Gaulle, and another Italian, led by the flagship of the Italian Navy, the aircraft carrier S-550 Cavour. All of them gathered there to participate in the Clemenceau-2022 mission. The order of the French flagship includes the Horizon-class destroyer D-620 Forbin, two FREMM-class frigates D-656 Alsace and D-651 Normandie, the Durance-class support vessel Marne (sea tanker) and an unnamed multi-purpose nuclear submarine ( MPLATRK) of the Rubis type. At various stages of the mission, the Charles de Gaulle will be joined by the American destroyer DDG-71 USS Ross of the Arleigh Burke class, the Spanish frigate F-102 Almirante Juan de Borbón of the Alvaro de Bazan class, as well as the Greek submarine and frigate of the Ellie class. . During the exercise, the French sailors will work out interaction with the 5th generation F-35B fighters and E-2D Advanced Hawkeye AWACS carrier-based aircraft. In addition, as the command of the French Navy noted, one of the frigates accompanying the aircraft carrier, as well as several fighters, will be sent to the Black Sea region due to the growing tension (I immediately have a question: what did they forget there?!).

And this is not counting the ships of the 6th Mediterranean Fleet of the US Navy, based in Naples, Gaeta, La Madallena, La Spezia, Taranto, Brindisi, Augusto and Rota with the flagship landing / combined command ship LCC-20 USS Mount Whitney. In addition to the flagship, the 6th Fleet on a rotational basis constantly includes 1-2 nuclear-powered aircraft carriers with a joint air wing of 175 aircraft, 4 Ticonderoga-class missile cruisers, 15 Arleigh Burke-class URO destroyers, 5 Wasp-class amphibious assault ships , 4 Virginia-class nuclear submarines, not counting support vessels, tankers, tugs, rescue, auxiliary and other vessels. If necessary, this entire armada of aircraft from aircraft carriers will easily and naturally move to NATO air force ground bases in Turkey, Italy and Greece, from where they can nightmare the entire territory of Ukraine on the “long arm” principle, using navigation and the entire maritime infrastructure of the fleet. It is worth noting that it is the 6th Fleet that is responsible for the ground component of the American missile defense systems deployed in Europe. The ships are equipped with the Aegis combat multifunctional information and control system integrated into the missile defense structure, thanks to which they are able to significantly reduce the power of retaliatory missile strikes from Russia. The Americans have already demonstrated the effectiveness of this system when, in February 2008, they shot down their old reconnaissance satellite weighing 5 tons at an altitude of almost 250 km.

Agree that the water area of ​​the NPM is simply teeming with NATO ships, which, on the eve of future events in Ukraine, do not at all inspire us with optimism. In order to neutralize this threat for the first time in the history of the USSR and the Russian Federation, an unprecedented power grouping of the Russian Navy was assembled in the SPM, which includes three project 1164 Atlant missile cruisers, nicknamed "aircraft carrier killers", two of which are the flagships of their fleets (RK "Moscow" - Black Sea Fleet, RK "Varyag" - Pacific Fleet, and RK "Marshal Ustinov" is simply inferior in this indicator to the flagship of the Northern Fleet TARK "Peter the Great", which remained on the basis of the Northern Fleet); two large anti-submarine ships - BOD "Admiral Kulakov" (SF) and BOD "Admiral Tributs" (TOF), both projects 1155, and four URO frigates - a heavy frigate of project 22350 "Admiral Kasatonov" (SF) and three light frigates with the Admiral's Black Sea Fleet series of project 11356R - "Admiral Grigorovich", "Admiral Makarov" and "Admiral Essen". The missile cruisers are equipped with the most powerful P-1000 Vulkan anti-ship missiles (16 launchers each), the rest of the ships of the group are also carriers of missile weapons, including subsonic winged Caliber, supersonic Onyx anti-ship missiles and hypersonic winged Zircons. Two air defense / anti-aircraft defense corvettes of project 20380 "Resistant" and "Savvy" (now passing Gibraltar) are also going there from the Baltic, also armed to the very teeth with anti-submarine torpedo and missile anti-ship and anti-aircraft weapons (the most armed ships in their class). In addition, on February 15, two Tu-22M3 strategic long-range bombers with X-22 supersonic cruise anti-ship missiles on board and a flight of MiG-31K high-altitude all-weather long-range fighter-interceptors equipped with hypersonic aviation systems "Dagger" (one more, this time hypersonic "aircraft carrier killers").

The armada of NATO ships loitering in the SPM immediately felt uncomfortable. The flagship of the US 6th Fleet LCC-20 USS Mount Whitney immediately fled from there (it’s understandable, there are only two such ships in the US Navy, why substitute it once again?), however, it was immediately replaced by the multi-purpose nuclear submarine SSGN 729 Georgia of the type “ Ohio" with 154 winged "Tomahawks" on board. But in principle, there are enough of our submarines there (six brand new diesel-electric submarines of project 636.3 "Varshavyanka" of the Black Sea Fleet, armed with winged "Caliber"). And their dense subsonic Tomahawks run the risk of becoming easy prey for our S-300s and S-400s deployed around the entire perimeter of Nezalezhnaya (you are welcome, we are waiting for you!).

Magician Shoigu


As you can see, Sergei Kuzhugetovich thoroughly prepared for the meeting. I must say that all this preparation was reminiscent of a real military operation. Judge for yourself, the Pacific squadron led by the Varyag RK, which, in addition to it, also included the Admiral Tributs BOD and the large sea tanker Boris Butoma, after the CHIRU exercises they carried out on January 18-22 in the Gulf of Oman jointly with the Iranian Navy and China -2022 was supposed to pay an official visit to the Seychelles on the occasion of the 105th anniversary of the entry of the Russian armored cruiser Varyag of the same name (the one that does not surrender to the enemy) to the port of Victoria of this island state, but instead of the Indian Ocean, she suddenly ended up in the Mediterranean Sea. This is despite the fact that the official visit of the Varyag to the Seychelles was announced back in November 2021. It was the first surprise from Sergei Kuzhugetovich. The second surprise happened when the North Sea squadron led by the Marshal Ustinov missile launcher, as well as the Vice-Admiral Kulakov BOD, the carrier of the hypersonic Zircons, the heavy frigate Admiral Kasatonov, and the medium sea tanker Vyazma accompanying them, which left on 22 January from Severomorsk to conduct pre-scheduled missile firing in the British Isles from February 5 to 8, unexpectedly changed the route and instead of firing in the cold waters of the Irish Sea, suddenly, to the surprise of many, surfaced in full force in the hot waters of the Mediterranean, where even without them to push through there was nowhere. Moreover, in pursuit of them in the direction of Gibraltar, a squadron of the Baltic Fleet, consisting of two air defense / anti-aircraft defense attack corvettes Stoykiy and Soobrazitelny, also rushed towards them.

By this, Sergei Kuzhugetovich politely hinted to our “partners” so that they would not twitch once again when the Supreme Commander begins to implement his plan “B”, which everyone has heard about, but still does not know what it will consist of. By the end of this story, you will finally know about him. Putin again surprised everyone. As they say, if you want to hide something, put it in the most visible place. Putin and put. For three months we beat around the bush, looking in dark corners - where did Putin hide his terrible plan "B"? While all this time he lay before our eyes. Personally, I was embarrassed that it was the old man Joe who pointed to him, you see, this is not the comrade who can be trusted. But I will not get ahead of myself, you will learn about Putin's plan "B" today. Only a regular client of Alzheimer's, part-time acting president of America, could believe in this, but he had his own reasons for this, which were radically at odds with ours. And Putin's task was precisely to implement his plan "B", while at the same time localizing and minimizing the consequences of the counter-plan "B1" of grandfather Joe.

Putin's terrible plan "B"


It was for the implementation of plan "B" that a joint transatlantic transition of a group of large landing ships of the Northern and Baltic fleets from the Varangians to the Greeks was carried out, which we all watched with enthusiasm for 1,5 months. Now it becomes clear what they were taking to Syria. We puzzled over what could be in the holds of six BDK loaded to the eyeballs? Iskanders? Marines? No, everything turned out to be much easier. There was ammunition for our Syrian group, missiles, including hypersonic "Daggers" and supersonic X-32 "Storms" and other necessary weapons. The fact is that with the beginning of the implementation of plan "B", the Turkish straits of the Bosporus and the Dardanelles could be closed to us, as well as Gibraltar, could they not break through them with a fight? In order not to put our group in the SAR on a starvation ration, Putin created a strategic reserve. It is for this reason that we could not pull off our deterrence operation in Syria, for a ground operation we do not have enough logistical and escalation capabilities there. And the effect of it, I think, few of you would be shocked. Well, we would have shaken out the American Rangers from the last province they occupied in Syria, and so what? This will not scare Grandpa Joe. Unpleasant, but not fatal.

For the same reason, the simultaneous strategic exercises of our entire air, sea and land-based nuclear triad, unparalleled in their scale, conducted ahead of schedule on February 19 this year, on which I had such high hopes, could not scare our enemy too much. Well, we shot with Iskanders, Yars, Poplars, Calibers, Blue, Mace, Daggers and Zircons, so what? Scary, but not deadly for our enemies. They are sure that we will definitely not shoot at them with our most terrible missiles in the world, as well as drown their holey troughs in the SPM. Nuclear weapons bury, not scare. What then? That's when Plan B comes into play.

22.02. exactly at 4 o'clock, Kiev was bombed, we were informed that the war had begun


What was it? You will, of course, laugh, but Putin's most unpleasant and long-awaited response for Biden would be the disposal of Ukraine as an anti-Russian project. That was the plan "B". And the task of the GDP was only to minimize its consequences for the Russian Federation. The fact that the Russian army will bury the Kiev regime in a matter of hours, no one, even the Ukrainian army itself, doubts. How to avoid the consequences in the form of sanctions, trade embargoes and the insane population, which will inevitably get us to work? That's what Putin's head ached about. But it was also impossible to drag on with this regime that had lost its shores. Putin made a decision for himself, and all this time he deliberately walked towards it.

Everyone who knows Putin well knows that he doesn't say anything just like that. Psaki, Biden, Zelensky, even Lukashenka's dad can chat something extra, but not Putin! Therefore, when at a press conference with Scholz he suddenly mentioned the genocide of the people of Donbass, which was unleashed by the Kiev regime, I understood that evidence was being prepared for accusations of crimes against humanity. Therefore, when a terrible explosion thundered on the territory of the LPR on the night of February 19, which local eyewitnesses described as an undermining of the Ukrainian DRG of the Druzhba gas pipeline, I just laughed. And about the Ukrainian DRG, and about the "Friendship". I am sure that our specialists were working, they also blew up the UAZ car of the head of the NM of the DPR in Donetsk. Note that in both cases, no one was hurt, although the car was blown up in broad daylight on a busy street (I also thought that this is the whole head of the Armed Forces of the DPR driving a UAZ, is there really no better car? But why? To undermine the most it will be! ). But there is already a picture for the media. The bloody Kiev regime has completely lost its shores!

By the way, there is no Druzhba gas pipeline, there is an oil pipeline of the same name, but no one blew it up, because it runs in a different place. As well as the Urengoy-Pomary-Uzhgorod gas pipeline, which everyone thought about. They blew up a local main high-pressure gas pipe. There is a lot of noise, the consequences have already been eliminated. But I have no reason to blame the Kremlin for this. We learn from our enemies. Now let them prove that they are not camels! And Putin will go all the way. The point of no return has already been passed. The days of the Kiev regime are numbered. The countdown has begun. You can not even doubt that Putin will multiply it by zero. Everything goes according to plan. according to the GDP plan. Evacuation of the civilian population - there too. Pay attention to how organized it was! Prepared in advance. Everything was already ready: both in the LDNR and in the Russian Federation.

By the way, the exercises in Belarus have already ended, as well as the Olympics in Beijing. We are waiting for Comrade's speech. Si. For some reason, I won't be at all surprised if, after the Paralympics, which finishes on March 13, he announces the transfer of Taiwan under Chinese jurisdiction. I wonder what Grandpa Joe will say to this, who at that time will gather the European and other concerned public under the banner of the fight against the Kremlin regime that has lost its shores? By the way, I'm not sure that many people will gather under these banners. Naturally, all Anglo-Saxon friends, Canadians, British, Dutch and other Poles with the Balts will be there, but there may not be French and Germans at all (after all, it was not in vain that Putin held talks with Macron and Scholz in the midst of the coronavirus). Only mentally disabled, inhibited residents of Northern Europe and Poles can freeze their asses without gas (and the latter still dream of warming up on this, using their LNG terminal in Swinoujscie, when the rest of Europe will be sitting without pipe Russian gas), while the Germans and the French with the Italians, Austrians and other Hungarians and Slovaks who joined them have a completely different attitude to this, and I'm not at all sure that Grandpa Joe can convince them. This is the other most important task of Plan B - the fragmentation of Europe and the introduction of a split in its monolithic ranks (and it is very difficult to unite people who want to eat with fairy tales about the benefits of curative fasting).

By the way, it was no longer possible to delay further with the beginning of the implementation of Plan B. The exercises in Belarus ended on February 20, and it was not possible from a purely military point of view to keep people in such weather in unsuitable conditions for this at the training grounds. Those who served in the army will understand this - sitting with wet feet in trenches and dugouts, or in the field at temperatures of 0 ... +/-5 * C is not ice at all. It is necessary either to take them to places of permanent deployment, or into battle. But the Pacific Marines were not transferred from the Far East to Belarus in order to return them back when the task of the decade had not been solved. The checker is brought in, it is easier to chop than to put in a sheath.

The trigger for the start of the operation will be the release to the sea of ​​all 12 large landing ships of the Northern, Pacific and Black Sea fleets, now grouped in the Black Sea Fleet base. Each of them takes on board up to 340 Marines, not counting equipment (this is a battalion). In total, we have 12 battalion tactical groups that can land along the entire coast of the Black and Azov Seas, which are now closed to everyone for the duration of the exercises. Near Berdyansk, Mariupol and Kherson, there are just suitable places for this, where the depth does not exceed 3-4 meters, which is necessary so that the BDK can throw back its ramp and land troops. The entire grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is now concentrated near the Donbass. I think the appearance of Russian marines in their rear will be a pleasant surprise for them. It was for this that six large landing ships from the north made their unprecedented transition from the Varangians to the Greeks. When they leave the Black Sea Fleet base, they will have exactly five days to either carry out what I said above, or to nightmare Zelensky even by the fact of their presence in the 12-mile zone and force him to agree to all Putin's conditions. I hope there are no people here who believe that Putin is going to fight with Ukraine. The highest aerobatics to achieve his goal without a single shot (as he did in the Crimea 8 years ago).

To all who disagree with me, I suggest simply putting yourself in Putin's place. Well, you conquered Ukraine, then what? What to do with its brainless population, which believes that it is you who are to blame for all their troubles? After all, this is what they were inspired by all these eight years. It is Putin who is to blame for the fact that they are now washing toilet bowls in lace panties in Poland, instead of traveling in them to Vienna and other operas. How can I convince them otherwise? And you still have to feed them! Well, why is Putin such happiness?! And answer me another very important question: why did he marinate the Donbass for all these eight years, so that later he could just take it and recognize it, putting a trailer around his neck and the rest of Ukraine with its misguided, delusional population?

Putin's task is to use methods of intimidation to force the leadership of Kiev, which still does not believe that Putin will go on the offensive, and does not want to aggravate itself, to compromise with Moscow. And here we have to use the well-known chess rule, which says that the threat is worse than its execution. In this game, Putin plays white, and he imposes his game on the blacks, for whom Biden plays. The opening has already been played, it remains for White, now the game has moved into the middlegame, the endgame is still far away, but Putin has the initiative, and only he decides which piece to use for the final victory.

While he moved the pawns (BDK from the south). Three of them - BDK "Saratov" (project 1171), BDK "Novocherkassk" and BDK "Caesar Kunikov" (both project 775) accompanied by RTOs "Naberezhnye Chelny" (project 12411), MPK "Povorino" (project 1124M), patrol ship "Pavel Derzhavin" (project 22160) and a group of boats have already entered the Sea of ​​Azov. The zone is closed for exercises from 0:00 on February 21 to 23:59 Moscow time on February 26. During this period, everything will happen. Either Zelensky and K * will see the landing in their southern underbelly, or there will be such a harsh imitation that everyone will screw up. But the 8-year nightmare of Donbass will end there. And what future awaits Ukraine and its misguided population, we will see in the next 20 days. Putin's task is to bring this aircraft out of control from the anti-Russian peak at least to neutral, reformatting the Cabinet of Ministers and the Rada. Everything will happen very quickly. The autonomy of the BDK is 15 ... 20 days. After this time, we will all know.

And to make Zelensky think better, Putin in the north marked all his military equipment, concentrated on the borders of the Kursk and Belgorod regions, with identification marks in the form of the letter "Z" enclosed in a square. After all, the equipment is the same, but the LDNR tanks must somehow differ from the tanks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. We will assume that this is Zelensky’s noble trolling (I would also understand the letter “P” - “Putin” in Latin, or “Russians” in Russian, but Putin chose “Z”). Zelensky's hot days are starting. No matter how it gets burned.

Postscript


Epigraph: “We are actually for peace! But our enemies must understand one simple thing, that we will fight for him so much that there can be no stone left unturned from him! (Vovka from Far Away Kingdom)

As an afterword, I would like to address all my readers. Dear friends, to understand these political chess and not become a banal manipulative victim of TV, I would advise now, right now, all of you, especially people with an unstable and mobile psyche, to watch it less often. The most sophisticated methods of mass propaganda are now being worked out on you, looking at which even Goebbels would have to shoot himself with envy. I will say right away that there will be no war! At least nuclear and World War III. But the struggle for peace has entered the final stage. And before using even conventional methods and means on the battlefield, they create an advantage in the information field. On a real battlefield, Putin has a stunning unprecedented advantage, not even at times, but by several orders of magnitude. And now I'm not talking about the Ukrainian unfortunate army, it is not on the battlefield at all. I'm talking about our existential adversary, sitting across the sea and ocean. At least on land and in strategic arms, we have no equal, but at sea and in the air we are not going to fight with them. And they are going to compete with us on land, with the hands of their Ukrainian wards. But there is one problem - the Ukrainian wards also do not want to die. True, no one asks them about it. They are just pawns for them on this battlefield.

For us, no. For us, Ukraine is a figure, albeit a light one, something like an elephant. Putin's pawns are the same BDKs and missile cruisers that he moves on a conditional chessboard that has become a battlefield for us. There is a very subtle political game going on. The opponents, the USA and the Russian Federation, are not fighting for Ukraine or even for Europe (France and Germany in this game are also just pieces, albeit heavier than Ukraine, something like rooks), the war is for a global redivision of the world. Opponents look to the future with a planning horizon of 30-40-50 years (Ukraine generally has a zero planning horizon, its Kermanychi look only at their feet so as not to fall, but along the way they also try to grab something for themselves, such freaks! ). The states are very reluctant to give up their advantage. But it will have to, because Putin dictates the game from a position of strength, having a positional advantage, keeping in reserve also a queen called China, which has not yet been put into play. The States, naively believing that they were sitting in front of a first-class sucker a la Zelensky, offered the international grandmaster Putin a sacrifice in the form of a piece of Ukraine, having previously dragged all their embassies to Lvov to Western Ukraine, take it, Vova. But Putin does not need Ukraine, or rather a piece of it, the game is not for Ukraine and not even for Eastern Europe, but for the entire globe, but more on that next time. And this time, Vovka from Far Far Away will take all of Ukraine for himself exclusively by conventional means, using heavy figures a la Paris and Berlin for this (neither Poles nor Romanians will break anything here), and will try to do it again without a single shot, because that the threat of the use of force is much more terrible than itself. And I'm not talking here at all about nuclear weapons, which are used only once (the first and last).

On this I say goodbye, I hope everything will end quickly and well. Most of all in this story, I feel sorry for the Donbass, which again pays for all of us.
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  1. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 21 February 2022 17: 18
    -16
    I'm tired of reading about your plans, A, B, C, E ....... etc. Show Putin better where this gateway is and how it looks!
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 21 February 2022 18: 18
      +4
      I take it you're leaving us soon? stay, we will miss you (I'm not being rude!)
      1. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
        steelmaker 21 February 2022 18: 27
        -9
        It's good that you remember about the bet. I am responsible for my words. You compose a fairy tale for the time being, how NATO got scared and guaranteed the security of Russia. Do not forget about plan B, C,,,,, Yu. You can do it, I know.
  2. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 21 February 2022 17: 27
    +4
    I'm talking about our existential adversary, sitting across the sea and ocean. At least on land and in strategic arms, we have no equal, but at sea and in the air we are not going to fight with them.

    To the collection.
  3. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 21 February 2022 17: 28
    +4
    But Putin does not need Ukraine, or rather a piece of it, the game is not for Ukraine, and not even for Eastern Europe, but for the entire globe, but more on that next time.

    To the collection.
  4. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
    Ulysses (Alexey) 21 February 2022 17: 34
    +2
    And indeed, it must be admitted that on February 18, Putin was no longer up to hockey.

    I must admit that today, February 21:

    Russian President Vladimir Putin met remotely with members of the national Paralympic team and congratulated them on their participation in the Paralympic Games.

    Is everything already over, or does the pursuit of biting phrases replace knowledge of the real situation??
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 21 February 2022 18: 20
      +5
      Do you think it all started today? I feel sorry for you!
      1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
        Ulysses (Alexey) 21 February 2022 18: 41
        +5
        No need to feel sorry for me, because I don't feel sorry for anyone either.

        The process has been launched, I'll see how many yesterday's sofa oracles "we'll reach Lvov" will be crossed tomorrow into desperate pacifists from "another Afghanistan". winked

        For I am personally for the recognition of the republics.
        With all the consequences.

        PS I bought a pack of salt today, it ends at home. smile
  5. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 21 February 2022 17: 46
    +3
    I will say right away that there will be no war! At least nuclear and World War III.

    I hope there are no people here who believe that Putin is going to fight with Ukraine. The highest aerobatics to achieve his goal without a single shot (as he did in the Crimea 8 years ago).

    [b] And here we have to use the well-known chess rule, which says that the threat is worse than its execution.

    Yeah. The author understands card games better than chess.

    But it's good that the author reassured us. There will be no third world. And then we, reading the author’s articles, didn’t come up with anything for ourselves. Plans G, P and X definitely planned a nuclear war.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 21 February 2022 18: 25
      +7
      I'm waiting for 22.02.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX - then we'll all laugh together!
      and do not pass off your illusions as my words, I have not written anywhere about the use of nuclear weapons! I generally believe that there will be no forceful scenario, the threat of such a thing will be enough to blow away, and in general this is not about Ukraine, the bargaining is for the redistribution of zones of influence, the States will have to crawl away
      1. Alex777 Offline Alex777
        Alex777 (Alexander) 22 February 2022 11: 13
        0
        Quote: Volkonsky
        bargaining is for the redistribution of zones of influence, the States will have to crawl

        One threat is not enough for the States to crawl back.
        They want a military defeat. Afghan type. hi
    2. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) 21 February 2022 19: 50
      +8
      Yeah. The author understands card games better than chess.

      It's not up to chess now.
      We play with gamblers-scammers, there is no time for politeness.
      The game is about survival.
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  7. AICO Offline AICO
    AICO (Vyacheslav) 21 February 2022 17: 55
    +3
    Now recently I was rewatching "Tractor Drivers" - you open the window "Grad" explodes, you open the door - the sniper grazes !!!
  8. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
    Ulysses (Alexey) 21 February 2022 18: 02
    +2
    Most of all in this story, I feel sorry for the Donbass, which again pays for all of us.

    There is a meeting of the Security Council.
    As a result of which a decision will be made on the recognition of both republics.

    The next step (a matter of days, if not hours) is an agreement on military-technical assistance.
    After that, a lot of unpleasant events await the Ukrainian Armed Forces, after which real silence will finally come at the front.

    And there will be no "invasion" ....
    1. Savin Offline Savin
      Savin (Savin) 21 February 2022 19: 28
      0
      I watched this meeting. Feelings are not unambiguous. Half of the members should be driven without hesitation. They cannot clearly state their opinion. Because it does not exist. Or they do not want to advertise it
      1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
        Ulysses (Alexey) 21 February 2022 20: 17
        +9
        Uh-huh.
        Some, out of habit, tried to pour water, spreading in the desire to sit on two chairs.
        One such Putin even slightly flogged live.

        Yes, some of those in power even in the Security Council are jittery, it was evident from the broadcast.
        However, the decision has already been made.
        Personally, I support him.
    2. shiva Offline shiva
      shiva (Ivan) 22 February 2022 01: 06
      -1
      Days, hours? Ha! Five minutes! While everyone was watching New Year's greetings, everything was already signed.
  9. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 21 February 2022 18: 04
    +4
    It is for this reason that we could not pull off our deterrence operation in Syria; for a ground operation, we do not have enough logistical and escalation capabilities there. And the effect of it, I think, few of you would be shocked. Well, we would have shaken out the American Rangers from the last province they occupied in Syria, and so what? This will not scare Grandpa Joe. Unpleasant, but not fatal.

    And we read your articles and waited for nuclear strikes on American checkpoints. How so!?
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    2. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 21 February 2022 18: 36
      +4
      again, a lie, I didn’t write about nuclear weapons! no need to overdo it! This conversation is over! No need to answer!
      1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
        Ulysses (Alexey) 21 February 2022 19: 45
        +5
        Endure.

        "Cyberfighters" came running, they are furiously minus, but this is a plus for you in karma.
        I can disagree with you, but my respect for the position.
  10. Valentine Offline Valentine
    Valentine (Valentin) 21 February 2022 18: 11
    +6
    Now exactly 18.00 Moscow time, there is a meeting of the expanded Security Council of Russia - we are waiting for the "moment of truth" from our Guarantor for the Donbass, and only today we are waiting for his "ACT", as with Crimea, there will be enough deaths and blood, close the entire sky over the Donbass and recognize sovereignty of these republics, and for shelling these republics, instantly destroy all their military infrastructure with headquarters, artillery warehouses, tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and other military equipment without crossing borders, unless NATO begins its intervention on the "independent" one.
    1. Roma Phil Offline Roma Phil
      Roma Phil (Roma) 21 February 2022 23: 11
      +1
      The video of the event was recorded in advance. Around the clock of Shoigu at a meeting of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, versions appeared on the network. Apparently, judging by his watch, the meeting of the Security Council began somewhere at 11 - 12 o'clock in the morning. (or afternoon)
      1. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
        Kofesan (Valery) 22 February 2022 10: 18
        +2
        And in itself, this significant decision has been prepared for many years. At least 7 years, that's for sure. Remember how he and Shoigu retired to the taiga to whisper ...?
        Why ? I think it's clear without explanation.
        ... What would the West impose in such a way that they would not twitch. Ah yes Putin. Hey, well done!!!
        Beautiful!
        PS But the main thing is that only now "the decision to recognize the LDNR" looks obvious and simple.
        Ah, well done .... But the sequels are thought out, for sure ...
        1. Roma Phil Offline Roma Phil
          Roma Phil (Roma) 22 February 2022 11: 30
          +3
          I do not think that the "event" for recognition was being prepared. Yes, many more years. Putin, and even Western heads of state, insisted on the implementation of the Minsk agreements. For Russia, they would be the most beneficial. LDNR with wide autonomy, under the influence of Russia, could influence the policy of Kiev, including membership in NATO. In addition, the republics would have successfully developed with the economic support of Russia, while having all the benefits of Western countries for Ukraine. And looking at this, other regions of Ukraine would also demand autonomy for themselves. And then the end of the unitarity of Ukraine. And then complete collapse. ......... That's why the Ukrainian authorities are even happy with this recognition of the "independence" of the LDNR. And they do not hide their joy. Now they will be left behind with this hated implementation of the Minsk agreements. Yes, now Zelensky can shout at all corners about the aChresia of Russia and demand new sanctions from the West for her. Although the West cannot come up with anything new. All their sanctions against Russia hit them hard.
          1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
            Volkonsky (Vladimir) 22 February 2022 13: 49
            0
            + I put!
          2. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
            Kofesan (Valery) 22 February 2022 23: 43
            +2
            It's impossible ... the fact that everything was decided quickly and plans were made with a tip. And the fate of the "Minsk agreements" was predictable. They, like the Kiev "ORDLO" - in the past ... but they thought how to do it and how best to build, what we are now seeing for a very long time ... And the fact that the West was convinced of the opposite ... well - "Bravo!"
  11. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 21 February 2022 18: 13
    -13
    It is for this reason that we could not pull off our deterrence operation in Syria, for a ground operation we do not have enough logistical and escalation capabilities there. And the effect of it, I think, few of you would be shocked.

    We landed on the Syrian bridgehead to have four pipes of the Turkish Stream. And for the Turks to buy gas on the terms of Gazprom. But it turned out that there were two pipes, barely filled. And the Turks had to supply the S-400 air defense system, complete with a nuclear power plant, at Russian expense.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 21 February 2022 18: 38
      +5
      what the hell? don't upset me! before your posts at least it was possible to read
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 21 February 2022 18: 57
        -13
        So who lost? Turks or us? Not a single goal set by Vladimir Vladimirovich has been achieved in the former SAR. Despite almost seven years of victories.
        1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
          Ulysses (Alexey) 21 February 2022 19: 52
          +6
          In the former SAR, not a single goal has been achieved,

          Uh-huh.
          The second Afghanistan did not work out. laughing
          What were you waiting for?
        2. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 21 February 2022 20: 40
          +5
          I see the pan interferes with thinking! conversation is over! too lazy to even argue
          1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
            gunnerminer (gunner miner) 21 February 2022 21: 56
            -10
            The fleet is not only ships. We have practically no naval reconnaissance aircraft, naval strike aircraft, AWACS and U complexes, PLO aviation is represented by museum exhibits, not all of them are equipped even with the outdated Novella PPS. No auxiliary fleet and hydrography detachment, no hospital ships, no mother ships for frigates and submarines. The Navy has an ancient training base. Based on the enthusiasm of craftsmen. Most of the landing craft are held together only by the titanic efforts of their crews.
            1. Roma Phil Offline Roma Phil
              Roma Phil (Roma) 21 February 2022 23: 38
              +3
              But for example, the American expert Kyle Mizokami, in the list of the most powerful fleets in the world, puts the Russian fleet in 3rd place, after the USA and China.
              At the same time, he notes that the main power of the Russian fleet lies in submarine forces .. The expert estimates the Russian submarine fleet much higher than the Chinese one, but admits that it is inferior in its power to the American one. In general, it's not so bad as you are trying to present here. Considering that the Russian armed forces began to develop a little over 20 years. With the advent of Putin's presidency.
              1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                gunnerminer (gunner miner) 22 February 2022 16: 17
                -7
                American expert Kyle Mizokami is trying for the US Navy budget. Count the number of combat-ready Russian submarines. Assess their age, the quality and quantity of torpedoes, electronic warfare devices (GPA), the absence of floating bases, the quality of the training base. Pay attention to the state of Naval Aviation, BRAV, Marine Corps. Assess the lack of an auxiliary fleet and hydrography. Everything is not so bad. Just bad. All Russian shipbuilding programs have been thwarted. Ship repair is poor.
                1. Roma Phil Offline Roma Phil
                  Roma Phil (Roma) 22 February 2022 16: 29
                  +2
                  Crap. What a horror. And how are we all still alive? No light.
                  Two people were looking out the same window. One saw rain and mud, The other saw green foliage, Spring and blue sky.
                  1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 22 February 2022 20: 46
                    -7
                    Yes. The gaps are getting smaller and smaller. We have already sold oil and gas to China for 80 years ahead.
        3. boriz Offline boriz
          boriz (boriz) 21 February 2022 23: 33
          +5
          The main goal has been achieved in the SAR: not a single gas pipe has passed from the Persian Gulf to Europe.
          Not from Qatar, not from Iran. And in Europe, the prices for gas that we need are being held (and will be held in the coming years).
          This is not to mention bases, airfields ...
          Now Assad recognizes the LDNR. He already said.
          1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
            gunnerminer (gunner miner) 22 February 2022 16: 18
            -5
            No one planned to drag a pipe from the Persian Gulf. Assad rests on Iranian and Russian bayonets, he can recognize anyone.
            1. boriz Offline boriz
              boriz (boriz) 22 February 2022 18: 07
              +1
              Everyone can recognize anyone. Not everyone recognizes. Lukashenka has not recognized Crimea so far.

              No one planned to drag a pipe from the Persian Gulf.

              This is from your youth and narrowness of outlook. Everyone wanted. Well, almost everything.
              https://geoenergetics.ru/2016/08/12/sirijskij-konflikt-s-tochki-zreniya-geoekonomiki/
              It turned out that these pipes are not needed by the Russian Federation and the United States. And they didn't put them in. And they won't put it in the coming years.
              1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                gunnerminer (gunner miner) 22 February 2022 20: 48
                -6
                Lukashenka is a giant like Assad. Both sit on Russian bayonets.
    2. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) 21 February 2022 18: 45
      +7
      We landed on the Syrian bridgehead to have four pipes of the Turkish Stream.

      Stupidity sucked from the finger.
      Also, off topic.
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 21 February 2022 18: 59
        -17
        Wow stupidity? Lost helicopters and planes. They cost millions of dollars. And the lives of the military and members of PMCs are priceless.
        1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
          Ulysses (Alexey) 21 February 2022 19: 19
          +3
          The committees of the "soldier's mothers" died safely.
          Now the "fathers" from the Baltic cybercents rule. laughing
          1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
            gunnerminer (gunner miner) 21 February 2022 21: 35
            -11
            If not for the KMS, many crimes would not have been solved. For example, the story of Private Sychev.
            1. General Black Offline General Black
              General Black (Gennady) 22 February 2022 15: 38
              0
              Guf! Rearrange the letters. And then you did not answer, what is your VUS?
              1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                gunnerminer (gunner miner) 22 February 2022 16: 19
                -6
                I saw your VUS, which did not even serve urgently.
                1. General Black Offline General Black
                  General Black (Gennady) 22 February 2022 18: 56
                  +2
                  You don't even have a military ID. You are a white ticket!

          2. alexneg13 Offline alexneg13
            alexneg13 (Alexander) 21 February 2022 22: 14
            +2
            He broadcasts from Kazakhstan. This is a local Kazakh liberalist. Only a lobotomy can save him, but for now he only thinks in the lower hemispheres.
            1. General Black Offline General Black
              General Black (Gennady) 22 February 2022 19: 02
              +1
              Well then that explains a lot. Thanks.
        2. Roma Phil Offline Roma Phil
          Roma Phil (Roma) 22 February 2022 14: 55
          +2
          PMCs are soldiers of fortune. Either hit or miss.
    3. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 21 February 2022 21: 05
      +1
      We landed on the Syrian bridgehead to have four pipes of the Turkish Stream.

      Who told you this nonsense? Spit in his face laughing If we reduce everything to pipes (although this is not so), then they landed so that the pipe would not go through Syria and the Mediterranean Sea to Europe.

      And for the Turks to buy gas on the terms of Gazprom.

      Are the restless cockroaches whispering again? smile The contract of sale is bilateral, sign if the conditions satisfy both parties.

      But it turned out that there were two pipes, barely filled.

      November 16 2021
      Turkey and Gazprom are discussing a partial extension of old and new contracts for the supply of gas, for this there is the capacity of the Turkish Stream, the uncontracted volumes of which will amount to 2022 billion cubic meters from 9,75, Turkish Deputy Minister of Energy and Natural Resources Alparslan Bayraktar told reporters.
      "We are discussing with Gazprom the growth of gas supplies to Turkey. Because there are capacities of the Turkish Stream," he said.
      The deputy minister recalled that part of Gazprom's contracts for gas supplies to Turkey expire this year.
      "And in 2022, there will be 9,75 billion cubic meters of capacity available in Turkish Stream. These will include new contracts and partial renewal of contracts. We are negotiating with Gazprom, but so far I cannot say more," he explained. Bayraktar.

      https://1prime.ru/gas/20211116/835227172.html

      And the Turks had to supply the S-400 air defense system, complete with a nuclear power plant, at Russian expense.

      What a horror belay Either the Americans threw a tantrum against the sale of the S-400 yes Were you worried about us? smile
    4. Roma Phil Offline Roma Phil
      Roma Phil (Roma) 22 February 2022 14: 48
      +2
      You repeat yourself. What is the new thread? Although it’s a plus for you that they read you and remember what you wrote about.
  12. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 21 February 2022 18: 48
    -7
    Concentration of forces in the NPM

    Our "aircraft carrier killers" did not kill any aircraft carrier. There is a 6th fleet, but the 5th Operational Squadron does not exist. RKR Varyag has been in service since 1989, 33 years in operation. RRC Marshal Ustinov has been in service since 1986, 36 years in operation. RRC Moscow has been in service since 1982, 40 years in operation. TARKR P.Veliky for 12 years overdue the average repair. His exit to the sea is not safe for the crew. BOD "Admiral Kulakov" since 1982 in service, 40 years in operation. BOD “Admiral Tributs” has been in service since 1986, 36 years in operation. Museum exhibits. Without adequate air defense, anti-aircraft defense, anti-aircraft defense and logistics support. In the Mediterranean naval theater, these ships are trapped. Without the ability to get an emergency dock, if something happened, without the ability to hand over the wounded and affected to a floating hospital.

    Project 22350 heavy frigate "Admiral Kasatonov"

    What an innovation! Heavy Frigate! Got heavy from someone?

    The missile cruisers are equipped with the most powerful P-1000 Vulkan anti-ship missiles (16 launchers each), the rest of the ships of the group are also carriers of missile weapons, including subsonic winged Caliber, supersonic Onyx anti-ship missiles and hypersonic winged Zircons.

    Ships deprived of the opportunity to look beyond the radio horizon, and without the ability to effectively use the performance characteristics of their main ammunition. The group does not have aerial reconnaissance, it is not possible to use the SKTs. Which is not in service.

    and hypersonic winged Zircons

    A hypersonic missile cannot be cruise. The wings will burn. There is no Russian hypersonic ramjet engine. Hypersonic controlled flight can only be so if there is a hypersonic engine.

    Two air defense / anti-aircraft defense corvettes of project 20380 "Stoikiy" and "Savvy" (now passing Gibraltar) are also coming from the Baltic, also armed to the very teeth with anti-submarine torpedo and missile anti-ship and anti-aircraft weapons (the most armed ships in their class).

    These ships, like others, cannot replenish or replace ammunition. Since in the Mediterranean Sea, and in Tartus there is no PRTB (floating missile technical base) and TRB, TTB.
    The Kinzhal complex is even further from the title of "aircraft carrier killer" than to the Moon on a boat. The X-47M is a quasi-ballistic missile, without targeting mobile targets. MiG-31K and Tu-22M3 are scanty, even according to peacetime requirements.
    The grouping is provided with strike aircraft parade-symbolically. Without AWACS and U complexes, without the SSGN 949A division of the project, without the MAPL 971B division of the project.
    There are no universal supply transports in the group.

    But the 8-year nightmare of Donbass will end there.

    He is entering a new phase. The unfortunate civilian population of the LDNR.
    1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) 21 February 2022 19: 26
      +6
      Our "aircraft carrier killers" did not kill any aircraft carrier. There is a 6th fleet, but the 5th Operational Squadron does not exist.

      There is a fleet, rusty tubs, which are becoming more and more difficult to maintain combat readiness.

      The inglorious campaign of three AUGs to the shores of North Korea plunged even noteworthy American patriots into despondency.
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 21 February 2022 21: 36
        -10
        Nice hike. The governor of Primorye even began to check the availability of shelters.
    2. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 21 February 2022 19: 46
      +5
      Our "aircraft carrier killers" did not kill any aircraft carrier. There is a 6th fleet, but the 5th Operational Squadron does not exist. RKR Varyag has been in service since 1989, 33 years in operation. RRC Marshal Ustinov has been in service since 1986, 36 years in operation. RRC Moscow has been in service since 1982, 40 years in operation. TARKR P.Veliky for 12 years overdue the average repair. His exit to the sea is not safe for the crew. BOD "Admiral Kulakov" since 1982 in service, 40 years in operation. BOD “Admiral Tributs” has been in service since 1986, 36 years in operation. Museum exhibits. Without adequate air defense, anti-aircraft defense, anti-aircraft defense and logistics support. In the Mediterranean naval theater, these ships are trapped. Without the ability to get an emergency dock, if something happened, without the ability to hand over the wounded and affected to a floating hospital.

      I advise here the local naval oracle to go to Wiki and look at the years of production of the main strike component of the US Navy Ticonderoga-class missile cruisers. Pleasant surprises await you. Of the 27 built, 22 are in service, of which 20 were launched between 1982 and 1990. But this is probably different...

      What an innovation! Heavy Frigate! Got heavy from someone?

      I also advise this great specialist to compare frigates pr. 22350 and pr. 11356R and find out why 22350 are considered heavy and 11356 light

      A hypersonic missile cannot be cruise. The wings will burn. There is no Russian hypersonic ramjet engine. Hypersonic controlled flight can only be so if there is a hypersonic engine.

      there is nothing to even comment on - complete denseness! outrageous!! I advise you to go here
      https://topcor.ru/23746-sarmat-i-cirkon-kak-otvet-na-preventivnyj-globalnyj-udar-ssha.html
      and shoot yourself!
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 21 February 2022 21: 41
        -9
        The State Department has a lot of Tikenderog. Take quantity. But we have as many RTOs as the State Department has aircraft carriers. Do you feel the difference?
        There is no such classification - heavy or light frigate. Such attestations of ships, the level of a rural veterinarian.
        Recommend reading materials that you yourself do not take seriously. They are designed for those who have not mastered the high school physics course.
        Naval maneuvers of this magnitude were planned before the K-141 crash. In August 2000. A bad omen. By the way, there is still no rescue vessel with GVK-450, at KSF.
    3. Roma Phil Offline Roma Phil
      Roma Phil (Roma) 21 February 2022 23: 45
      +1
      Horrible. ...... Chief, everything is gone. The client is leaving. The plaster is removed.
  13. Igor Pavlovich Offline Igor Pavlovich
    Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 21 February 2022 19: 02
    -8
    The article was clearly written at the Kanatchikova dacha ... Although I could be wrong - most likely in Glevakha ...
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 21 February 2022 19: 48
      +10
      great knowledge of the subject is felt, go already sick, time to take medicine
      1. Igor Pavlovich Offline Igor Pavlovich
        Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 21 February 2022 20: 05
        -13
        consider cons, dear ...
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 21 February 2022 20: 13
          +13
          counted - 1:0 in my favor, do not agree with you
  14. gorskova.ir Offline gorskova.ir
    gorskova.ir (Irina Gorskova) 21 February 2022 19: 02
    0
    I never cease to be surprised by some who broadcast their own, assuming that this is exactly what Putin will do. Today we'll see what Putin will do after listening to all the participants in the heads of the State Duma, Federation Council, and so on and so forth ....
    1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) 21 February 2022 20: 07
      +5
      Today we'll see what Putin will do after listening to all the participants in the heads of the State Duma, Federation Council, and so on and so forth ....

      Actually, everyone already understands that there will be recognition of the DLNR.
      Next is the most interesting..
  15. beeper Offline beeper
    beeper 21 February 2022 19: 07
    -4
    I remembered the already completely forgotten title, "Notes of an Enchanted Wanderer", a series of articles in Komsomolskaya Pravda by correspondent Nikolai Varsegov ... consonant with the cycle "Notes of an Enchanted Trickster Putin". yes
    I started reading, and when the "boring enumeration" of the types and names of ships and vessels of the fleets and flotillas began, I realized that it was probably time to "go straight to the summarizing part" ... and again, in the "postscript", there were only "mysterious hints "at the next HPP?! request smile
    But in reality, dear Vladimir Volkonsky, the GDP will probably again be dragged into some kind of negotiations and, as a result, the whole "grand undertaking" of Putin-Shoigu will again turn out to be "zilch into the water" ?! yes
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 21 February 2022 19: 51
      +5
      comrade Pishchak, try reading from the subsection: Putin's Terrible Plan B, then there will be fewer questions
      1. beeper Offline beeper
        beeper 21 February 2022 23: 04
        +5
        hi Vladimir, I always read all your "insiders about HPP", which is why I drew attention to this, very noticeable from the outside, your enthusiastic "enchantment"!
        Why, just in a youthful way, "idealize" and ascribe to the "adored person" some "superpowers" (as well as your own "best expectations") and then persistently try to assure others (if not enemies, but not such admirers ) in the reality of the "ideal" created for oneself??! what
        It seems to me that I can quite clearly "retrospectively" see the "pluses" and "minuses" of the current Russian president as an official, a socio-political functionary, a member of the ruling neo-bourgeois "group" of exploiters and as an ordinary person (including those who have become widely known, his childhood "psychotraumas" - "regular beatings in Leningrad lanes" and adult "phobias" - a four-meter "anti-shaped negotiating table" and a long "covid bunkering before connecting" ...).
        Well, as well as, at one time, he devoted a lot of time and effort to "games and fights on the street", martial arts and military applied sports (even at the level of the republic and our Red Banner Military District), interaction in a team of equals, so and at the head of various teams, and in the midst of the "Komsomol", other social "loads" associated with "work with the masses", he learned very well to "read in the eyes", intuitively feel people even by their imperceptible "vibrations" - to be honest , I don’t know how I did it, but already by the senior classes of high school, having “stuffed myself pretty bumps”, I stopped making big mistakes in people - this later saved me many times in critical situations.
        And, to be honest, I would, like this on the fly, without first "a pood of salt eaten together", with Vladimir Vladimirovich "would not go into reconnaissance" - without extreme necessity.
        He’s kind of “obscure”, “twisted”, you can only check them in practice - once he will show himself well done, and in another, almost the same situation, he can behave “ambiguously” - “starts to fidget”!
        Usually they ask a counter question - “are you sure that this name would go on reconnaissance with you ?!”, but this is already the problem of that person, it’s up to him to decide!
        In my opinion, V.V. Putin will already Deservedly (for the saved, stopped on the edge of the abyss, the former RSFSR at the beginning of the "zero" and saved Crimea in 2014) will remain in the most Honorable Tablets of our Russian History (if he does not "manage" to commit some absolutely shameful "black offense")!
        Where there is no close place for either Mishka Marked, or EBN, the names of these vile "temporary workers" will soon be erased from the people's memory and the "EBN centers" will be destroyed!
        And so, if purely humanly, then the GDP is a "product of its era" and its "group", whose interests it defends first of all, although over the years, in such high positions of power, it could do much more to strengthen and comprehensively develop its country, for the well-being of millions of their compatriots (after all, it is they who, in the end, forge sovereign power and "human resources grow"), if they defended Progress and Justice!
        Considering that in our home-made "nezalezhnaya" the average age of death of men was about 57 years, then, probably, in the Russian Federation, it is about the same - many Ukrainian and Russian men, ordinary hard workers, "guaranteed" DO NOT live up to retirement age, really it was impossible to do without the "pension reform", which rightly outraged and still "bleeds the hearts" of the majority of Russian citizens!
        Because was dragged through after the oath promise of the GDP-"presidential candidate" that under his presidency such an anti-people "reform" would NOT be introduced?!
        And then there were these "explanations" that if the Russian rich were forced to pay the same progressive income tax as their colleagues in the West pay, then they, the Russian nouveau riche, would take their "capitals" and hide them in zakordonny "bins".
        As if they had not been exported and are not continuing to export from the Russian Federation on a huge scale before, fueling the growth of foreign economies with Russian money and raising the standard of living of non-Russian citizens?!
        So, the President of Russia and his assistants even have something to "work on urgently" in this!
        And we will soon see what (and is there) an HPP in the Donbass and Ukraine, because it is impossible to keep troops in "field camps" indefinitely without a significant loss of combat effectiveness!
        IMHO

        P.S. No offense, Vladimir, I still don’t know how I’ll survive this night and whether I’ll wake up in the morning (if I manage to fall asleep at all), so “as in confession” is easier and stricter towards myself and others.
        No, well, I don’t lose optimism, it’s not the first time to “get out”, although every time it becomes more problematic, everyone’s vitality has its own limit. request
        "It's easy and pleasant to tell the truth!" But, unlike the Truth, everyone has their own truth and may "very much not coincide" with the truths of other people! winked
        If you, Vladimir, are sure that you are Right, then DO NOT even pay attention to friendly crowds of critics - Write as you write, without looking back to make enemies (many of them will later reconsider their opinion) or someone will "like" the opportunistic (because then you yourself will reproach yourself for this)))! yes
        And, I think that you have already perfectly learned from your own experience that between the Author and his Text (as well as between the Artist and his Picture) there always appears an invisible Knowing Mediator, "in the course" of writing "guiding" thoughts and hands, because we are by no means yourself in this universe!

        Creative success to you, dear Vladimir Volkonsky!
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 22 February 2022 03: 53
          0
          comrade Pishchak - you have already lived to see our Crimea and Donbass, there is still our Kharkov and your City, and all this with GDP, but imagine if there was Kasyanov, for example
          once I liked him, but I didn’t like Putin ... he was young - he was bad, he didn’t understand a lot, he started in opposition to the authorities, now he has revised his views, I would generally ban voting until the age of 45
          1. beeper Offline beeper
            beeper 22 February 2022 09: 59
            +2
            hi Vladimir: Yes, he did! good
            I never liked Kasyanov, he was "seen in his eyes". smile
            And he sympathized with Putin when he, in a responsible general's position in the FSB, did not chase the "big stars", then he began to look closely at him ... winked
            1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
              Volkonsky (Vladimir) 22 February 2022 12: 59
              +2
              I try to be objective towards Putin, I scold him when there is something to do, 2014 didn’t forgive him either, but I don’t get into domestic Russian issues, because I don’t have the right, but to admit that without the GDP of the Russian Federation I would never have risen from my knees, you you can’t, it was Putin, with his set of bad and good qualities, who became the one and only crisis manager who saved Russia and forced the West to respect her again, this is the role of the Personality in History, and therefore it’s scary what will happen after him
              1. Roma Phil Offline Roma Phil
                Roma Phil (Roma) 22 February 2022 14: 59
                0
                I'm interested in reading you. Just do not forget that brevity is the sister of talent.
                1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
                  Volkonsky (Vladimir) 22 February 2022 16: 39
                  0
                  Phil, I'm just trying to build a logical picture of the world on the basis of mosaic randomly selected facts, sometimes I make mistakes, I'm not Globa, but in order to build an evidence base, you need a place. Otherwise, it will be like a local iksperd-soothsayer who imagined himself to be Wolf Messing, I see this and that ... Where I see it, don’t ask, I’m so Great that you don’t understand this. This uncle has the wrong address, the Battle of Psychics is one floor below. But briefly. By the way, he guessed. I acknowledged this fact! Personally.
    2. Valentine Offline Valentine
      Valentine (Valentin) 21 February 2022 19: 54
      0
      Something you have completely lost faith in GDP and its HP. But he has nowhere to go, if only together with Chubais to arrive with a petition to the White House to kiss Uncle Joe's old hand and once again surrender Russia with all its oligarchs, but .... everything will be fine, our troops are already there, with the Chechen battalion "Vostok", and there are enough volunteers there, and our tanks, "Solntsepeki", etc. equipment has already been confirmed by satellite images of our "partners", and in which case all the target designations for the Armed Forces of Ukraine are already on the monitors of our guys, they are just waiting " go-ahead."
  16. qtfreet Offline qtfreet
    qtfreet (Stephen Hawkins) 21 February 2022 19: 59
    +1
    I have a very strange question....
    As if on March 9, the presidential elections in South Korea. How, in your opinion, the plan "B" of our Supreme Commander-in-Chief will affect its outcome, and, as a result, relations specifically with this country?
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 21 February 2022 20: 15
      +5
      GDP decisions may affect Macron's elections in April, if there is no war, and there is no war, then Macron will be able to put on the wreath of a peacemaker who prevented a war in Ukraine
      1. qtfreet Offline qtfreet
        qtfreet (Stephen Hawkins) 21 February 2022 20: 24
        +1
        Those. in the South Caucasus, despite the status of "US Ally outside NATO", the upcoming event will not affect the elections from the word IN ANY WAY? Despite the fact that the election program of candidates mainly raises the internal problems of the country (real estate prices, the demographic crisis, etc.), sooner or later there will be debates in which candidates will be asked about foreign policy. And the likelihood that events that are relative to their country on the other side of the globe will be affected is small, but still there ... And whoever becomes president in the end, he will not be able to completely ignore this "operation" to redistribute the world ...

        PS It must be understood that South Korea, unlike Japan, has not yet imposed any sanctions against Russia.
        PPS I don't think incumbent President Moon Jae In is going to watch this with popcorn in hand...
    2. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) 21 February 2022 20: 33
      +4
      Do not worry about your gas carriers ..

      South Korean shipyard DSME to build six $7bn ($1,7m per vessel) Arc283 LNG tankers for NOVATEK’s Arctic LNG 2 project

      NOVATEK last year asked President Vladimir Putin to allow him to order ten more LNG carriers from abroad, as Zvezda is already loaded with orders and will not be able to build additional vessels on a tight schedule.

      Specifically, Koreans want to work. smile
      1. qtfreet Offline qtfreet
        qtfreet (Stephen Hawkins) 21 February 2022 20: 41
        +3
        Quote: Ulysses
        Do not worry about your gas carriers ..

        South Korean shipyard DSME to build six $7bn ($1,7m per vessel) Arc283 LNG tankers for NOVATEK’s Arctic LNG 2 project

        NOVATEK last year asked President Vladimir Putin to allow him to order ten more LNG carriers from abroad, as Zvezda is already loaded with orders and will not be able to build additional vessels on a tight schedule.

        Specifically, Koreans want to work. smile

        And Washington will not order them? I hope so....
        1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
          Ulysses (Alexey) 21 February 2022 21: 04
          +3
          And Washington will not order them? I hope so....

          I have never been a forecaster, but there is a feeling that a big nix is ​​planned (forgive my French).
          Akela is clearly not the same anymore, and if China still stirs up with Taiwan, there will be a big pichalka for the American "bolívar". smile
        2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 21 February 2022 21: 45
          -7
          China also knows how to build LPG gas carriers. Sovcomflot has already ordered them. The quality will be worse than Korean ones. But the third grade is not marriage.
  17. Demonlivi Offline Demonlivi
    Demonlivi (Dima) 21 February 2022 20: 15
    +7
    Anyone who doubts our peacefulness will choke on blood! For our mercy is merciless!
  18. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 21 February 2022 20: 16
    0
    I am tormented by vague suspicions. All the time we were told about the 150 thousandth group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. in the Donbas .. Shoigu today announced 70 thousand. This is that the entire shock fist or the total number of troops. If the total number of troops, the shock fist will be very liquid. The LDNR will be able to repel without much effort. If 70 thousand is a shock fist, then yes. Crush without options
    1. Roma Phil Offline Roma Phil
      Roma Phil (Roma) 22 February 2022 01: 08
      0
      Defense Minister Shoigu said that Ukraine has concentrated more than 50 troops in the Donbas. And he expressed concern that Kiev could regain its nuclear status. In his opinion, Ukrainian specialists can equip Tochka U missiles with nuclear charges.
  19. Alsur Offline Alsur
    Alsur (Alexey) 21 February 2022 20: 36
    +1
    Quote: Ulysses
    No need to feel sorry for me, because I don't feel sorry for anyone either.

    The process has been launched, I'll see how many yesterday's sofa oracles "we'll reach Lvov" will be crossed tomorrow into desperate pacifists from "another Afghanistan". winked

    For I am personally for the recognition of the republics.
    With all the consequences.

    PS I bought a pack of salt today, it ends at home. smile

    Afghanistan was not Vietnam for the USSR, you are confusing something.
    1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) 21 February 2022 21: 16
      +1
      Afghanistan was not Vietnam for the USSR, you are confusing something.

      You are speaking to me from a military point of view, and I agree with you.
      I'm talking about the economy..

      PS At one time, Manstein strongly blamed Hitler for the fact that he ordered to hold the Mius Front to the last, the smart military man was a complete layman in the economy.
    2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 21 February 2022 21: 47
      -5
      Afghanistan was one of the nails in the USSR's coffin. China played a special role in the supply of DShK. AK, mines, MLRS, ammunition, grenade launchers, clothing, helped advisers and instructors.
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  21. Alsur Offline Alsur
    Alsur (Alexey) 21 February 2022 21: 25
    -1
    Quote: Ulysses
    Afghanistan was not Vietnam for the USSR, you are confusing something.

    You are speaking to me from a military point of view, and I agree with you.
    I'm talking about the economy..

    PS At one time, Manstein strongly blamed Hitler for the fact that he ordered to hold the Mius Front to the last, the smart military man was a complete layman in the economy.

    Especially about the economy, it was not some kind of problem for the USSR. You probably did not live in the USSR.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 21 February 2022 21: 50
      -7
      The economy is not a problem for the USSR (with empty store shelves and a huge black market). And for Russia, the economy is not a problem with the flow of foreign investment, with the growing export of Russian goods, 25 million high-tech jobs. laughing
    2. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) 21 February 2022 22: 10
      +1
      Especially about the economy, it was not some kind of problem for the USSR. You probably did not live in the USSR.

      58 years old, you get the idea.
      The USSR was ruined by a failed economic policy, the Chinese comrades will not let you lie .. smile
      1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
        Volkonsky (Vladimir) 22 February 2022 03: 20
        0
        the same age, but where did you serve? I got under the first call from universities, they took me from the 2nd year, or you are 1964 - they didn’t get
  22. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
    Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 21 February 2022 22: 10
    +1
    Volodya, another great article! You see how many reactions to your thoughts in the ear! It's a record! And it’s interesting to read various comments ...))) as soon as I imagine that you are not here, it immediately becomes boring and empty from smart people, who, in fact, are old sofas! LDNR should have been recognized back in 2014! Yes, and this menagerie, with the circus, had to be slammed once in 2015. And in order to avoid these unhappy deeds, it was necessary immediately after the collapse of the USSR to collect pebbles in a pile and not abandon the state ideology.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 22 February 2022 03: 23
      +1
      she doesn’t, there were comments and more, they still don’t pay for them
      but this is the final article of the cycle about the ultimatum, Putin showed his cards, I didn’t guess, but the impostor expert guessed it, I take my hat off to him!
      1. Roma Phil Offline Roma Phil
        Roma Phil (Roma) 22 February 2022 15: 13
        0
        True Vladimir, write. You are good at it. And most importantly, in tune with the times, without going deep into the historical jungle. Just do not repeat yourself and do not think that you will not be understood.
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 22 February 2022 16: 31
          +2
          thx, Phil! since the beginning of the year, there has been a collapse of readers, each text breaks records of views, the answer is simple, I used to write under duress, only for banknotes, and this topic became interesting to me personally, I tried to figure it out (I started right on New Year's Eve), which captivated readers. But I can’t write much, no more than 6-8 tests a month, I’m not a machine, especially since they cast me here, they don’t let me hang out and probate some of the characters in this watered. theater, as I can do it (I have a difficult KVN past, captained in one not very recent team in the 90s, I know the green personally, what's the point of Toko?). They read me in Prose, because I burn with a verb not like a child. It’s so bad here (even this word is bad, like finally, Toko, Che, Chivo, and so on. Neologisms). But I personally can’t read some of the hacks, heavy academic style, it smells like a textbook, melancholy, I want to immediately scroll the wheel down.
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          2. Roma Phil Offline Roma Phil
            Roma Phil (Roma) 22 February 2022 17: 11
            +2
            Times and customs are changing. Where to get away from neologisms? You have a good background.
            Excellent style of writing, which is consonant with the modern style of speech. And you can postebatsya and on the forums slightly relaxed .. And the academic style is boring. Write from the heart and for the soul.
            Good luck.
  23. Alsur Offline Alsur
    Alsur (Alexey) 21 February 2022 22: 19
    0
    Quote: gunnerminer
    The economy is not a problem for the USSR (with empty store shelves and a huge black market). And for Russia, the economy is not a problem with the flow of foreign investment, with the growing export of Russian goods, 25 million high-tech jobs. laughing

    You have some cliches about the USSR, there was no black market on some large scale. The store shelves were full. What you write about was done on purpose and there was a short period of several months. You write about the period when the USSR was already dying and it was not at all like what it was during the normal USSR. What you write about the black market, you probably meant when scarce goods were sold from under the floor. That was, of course, but rather somewhere in Moscow and other large cities, and it concerned goods from abroad, the same jeans. But you probably understand that you can live without them and you will not die of hunger. Where I lived, they sold natural milk from the state farm, there was first-class butter, etc. There was no food shortage. There were plenty of things in the shops, there were no jeans, of course, but there were plenty of ordinary coats, sweaters, suits, trousers. There were refrigerators, TVs, tape recorders, but, for example, there were problems with recordings, there was nowhere to buy foreign music, even in official recording studios (there were such) it was not possible to buy foreign stage, well, except perhaps neutral ones, such as the San Remo competition.
    Under the USSR, there was a powerful economy, factories worked in all, even small towns. And then, as if by a click, with the arrival of the tagged, problems began.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 22 February 2022 12: 20
      0
      You write about the period when the USSR was already dying and it was not at all like what it was during the normal USSR.

      In what years was the "normal" USSR and what year did the dying begin in your opinion.
    2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 22 February 2022 16: 25
      -5
      In the 60s, parents sent from Kazakhstan to relatives in Sverdlovsk, Novosibirsk, Chelyabinsk, dried meat, kurt, milk powder. In these cities, even then there were big problems with food.
  24. Alsur Offline Alsur
    Alsur (Alexey) 21 February 2022 22: 34
    -1
    Quote: Ulysses
    Especially about the economy, it was not some kind of problem for the USSR. You probably did not live in the USSR.

    58 years old, you get the idea.
    The USSR was ruined by a failed economic policy, the Chinese comrades will not let you lie .. smile

    And where does the Chinese, they themselves profess socialism, like the USSR, that you did not give a good example. Yes, there was a problem in the economy of the USSR, but not the industry itself, but the imbalance in military production. Of course, it is now clear that it was necessary to optimize military production, depending on the country's income. Elderly managers could not do it in a timely manner.
  25. Bahadur Offline Bahadur
    Bahadur (Stanislas) 21 February 2022 22: 46
    +2
    Quote from demonlivy
    Anyone who doubts our peacefulness will choke on blood! For our mercy is merciless!

    = This is how it will be:
    the Nazis will choke on blood, and our Russian mercy will no longer extend to our enemies in the 21st century.

    And so that the Kremlin stands and we live in peace!!!
  26. Avarron Offline Avarron
    Avarron (Sergei) 21 February 2022 23: 18
    0
    It's up to Kharkov and Odessa. Volkonsky, your way out. Give the decommunization of Ukraine.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 22 February 2022 03: 29
      +1
      I lived under the Bolsheviks, however, in the calmest period of Leonid Ilyich, I have nothing to complain about - the Great Country, I looked to the future with confidence, which I cannot say about other times. Everything that Ukraine now has, it owes to the Bolsheviks, Putin had something else in mind - he wanted to take away from Ukraine what she got from the Bolsheviks
      1. Avarron Offline Avarron
        Avarron (Sergei) 22 February 2022 04: 46
        0
        So I'm talking about it. It is in this sense that "Give the decommunization of Ukraine."
  27. Sten_2 Offline Sten_2
    Sten_2 (Alexander Zabolotsky) 21 February 2022 23: 21
    +3
    Not a bad plan for GDP, bravo author!)
    All these British financial times are worn out, like we are from Belarus, but we will "invade" from Belgorod, and then op-pa, and we are from the sea! Repin's painting: "We didn't expect" :)
  28. Sten_2 Offline Sten_2
    Sten_2 (Alexander Zabolotsky) 21 February 2022 23: 46
    0
    Quote: Sten_2
    Not a bad plan for GDP, bravo author!)
    All these British financial times are worn out, like we are from Belarus, but we will "invade" from Belgorod, and then op-pa, and we are from the sea! Repin's painting: "We didn't expect" :)

    How can one not remember the legendary: "Hello, my dear, I waited for you. You came, found me, but I was confused"))
  29. Rico1977 Offline Rico1977
    Rico1977 (Alexander) 21 February 2022 23: 53
    +1
    I disagree about terrorist attacks. This could also happen for a dill reason. Simply because they are stupid seluks.
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  31. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
    Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 22 February 2022 00: 11
    +1
    I wholeheartedly congratulate all progressive Humanity on the Decision of the Government of the Russian Federation to recognize the LDNR! Finally happened what should have happened 8 years ago! BECAUSE Donbass is RUSSIA! Ukraine is Ulyanov's stupid invention. And Crimea is OURS. Down with NATO! USA IS CRUSHING.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 22 February 2022 03: 32
      +3
      and Kharkov is Russia, and Odessa, and the Dnieper, and Zaporozhye, and Nikolaev, and Kherson, and Kiev - the mother of Russian cities, all this is ours!
  32. Bahadur Offline Bahadur
    Bahadur (Stanislas) 22 February 2022 00: 39
    +1
    Quote: Morey Borey
    I wholeheartedly congratulate all progressive Humanity on the Decision of the Government of the Russian Federation to recognize the LDNR! Finally happened what should have happened 8 years ago! BECAUSE Donbass is RUSSIA! Ukraine is Ulyanov's stupid invention. And Crimea is OURS. Down with NATO! USA IS CRUSHING.

    Hurrah, hurrah, hurrah!!!)))

    After the collapse of 404, NATO itself will disintegrate.
    Of course we will help.
    Only, please, Brothers, in the 21st century "captives" Do not take: ALL new lands will be included in Russia Only in the form of new Provinces in the economic "architecture". No more experiments with nat. formations.

    ..." Britain no longer rules the seas - Ruthenia rules the earth and the winds! "...
  33. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
    Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 22 February 2022 01: 19
    +2
    I hope that Recognition (now the brand "Recognition" will become a historical brand!) automatically within the legal administrative boundaries of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions? ))) which means to the river!
  34. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 22 February 2022 03: 00
    +2
    Well, what can I say? I am pleased with myself.
    7.02.22/XNUMX/XNUMX early in the morning predicted the recognition of the Republics - it happened. I even guessed the date.
    True, a military treaty will be concluded later, but I thought that on the same day. But in fact, I'm right again - Putin already instructed the military to bring peace, without waiting for the official conclusion of agreements.
    An ultimatum on behalf of the republics to the former Ukraine has not yet been announced. Let's wait.
    Although if the territories are liberated without an ultimatum, then I will not be offended.

    In total, two specific predictions came true.
    1. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
      Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 22 February 2022 04: 44
      +1
      Well baby, baby! )))) Come on, bays, what will happen next? And I have been saying since 2014: the USA is DESTROYING.
      1. alexneg13 Offline alexneg13
        alexneg13 (Alexander) 22 February 2022 10: 15
        +3
        And what do you have to say for inflation in the country of world idiocy, where they cannot cope with it and the emission did not help, and the jackal could not unleash the war. And how she tried and laid out the dates in the rotten brains of mattress covers. And everything was past the cash register ... Everything was completely blown away by the 'slonik'. Remember the historical date "22022022". A new countdown has begun.
  35. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 22 February 2022 03: 22
    +1
    Quote: Volkonsky
    I didn’t write about the use of nuclear weapons anywhere! I generally believe that there will be no force scenario

    I wrote And then we, reading the author’s articles, didn’t come up with anything for ourselves. Plans G, P and X definitely planned a nuclear war.
    Of course, it’s my own fault that I first read your articles, and then tried to draw some conclusions based on them.

    no need to pass off your illusions as my words
    How about advice to the opponent? Moreover, there were no illusions (look in the dictionary for what this word means) - there were delusions based on the text you read.

    And by the way, what scared you so much about those few comments that you deleted? Well, yes, a little disrespectful to your fantasies, with the mention of Putin. But there was no rudeness or vulgarity. However, God be with you. You have such an opportunity - use it to your health. Personally, I treat my comments with irony. Deleted, to hell with them.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 22 February 2022 13: 23
      +2
      I don’t delete anyone here, the admin and moderators are doing this, I didn’t even read these comments, so I can’t judge why, if you carefully read the feed, you will suddenly find that I took off my hat to your forecasts and said that I was wrong, At the same time, I didn’t peel off and nothing fell off my head. But in order not to turn the discussion into a battle of psychics, I attach to my conclusions the facts on the basis of which I came to them. You have bare forecasts with fixing the dates when you made them. I consider this fortune-telling on the coffee grounds, if you make two opposite predictions, then one will definitely come true. We need a factual base. She wasn't there. Hence the conclusion - cheap self-promotion, although I did not mind talking, but you immediately became in opposition, taking a position from top to bottom. From what kind of business?! I did not understand such maneuvers, so discussions are not built.

      My conclusions were based on the axiom that Putin does not benefit from a war in Ukraine, anywhere but in Ukraine and not with the Ukrainian people, because this can pave a deep furrow between our peoples for many years, if not forever. The second thesis was, if this is what Biden wants, then why not give him such pleasure? Let's look at the development of events, but I still consider Ukraine to be part of a big game, it is only a means, not an end. I'll post more about goals. But I appreciated your forecast and took off my hat. I was especially surprised by the coincident dates and facts. But even in this text I write that I was mistaken in some conclusions. As you can see, I do not hide anything in front of readers and do not chase cheap PR. I don’t need it anymore, I have more than 100 thousand only regular readers in my prose, and here some texts have collected more than 1 million, which is finally a surprise for me. Unfortunately, these numbers are not monetized. You can't smear fame on the Internet on bread. And yes, it's all illusory.
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 22 February 2022 14: 28
        +1
        But in order not to turn the discussion into a battle of psychics, I attach to my conclusions the facts on the basis of which I came to them. You have bare forecasts with fixing the dates when you made them. I think this is fortune telling on coffee grounds

        And it didn’t occur to you the simple thought that I should describe in scrap the facts and thoughts, because of which I make some kind of forecast. The presence of a 30-40 kb explanation text in the comment seems inappropriate to me.

        if you carefully read the tape, you will suddenly find that I took my hat off to your forecasts and said that I was wrong, while I did not peel off and nothing fell from my head.

        For this I respect you. Male action.
  36. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 22 February 2022 03: 38
    +1
    In principle, one more prediction that came true can be added. A trifle, of course, but still nice. The author waited for clarity and quickly changed his shoes. Everything is going as he predicted.
    That is, it behaves as I predicted.

    But he

    I generally believe that there will be no forceful scenario, the threat of such a threat is enough to blow away

    I predict war.
    Let's see who's right.

    And yes, I am NOT wasting letters to explain my predictions. But so far two have come true. And the spiteful critics have a lot of reasoning, the lack of clear forecasts that can be checked for sales, and they don’t even guess the direction, not to mention the facts.
    1. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
      Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 22 February 2022 04: 47
      -2
      The probability of a war in Europe in the next three years on the basis of "containment of Russia" is 99.(9)%.
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 22 February 2022 05: 40
        0
        Why in the next three years? Military operations are about to begin on the territory of the former Ukraine. And this is Europe. I do not think that NATO will directly intervene with its Armed Forces, but the Russians will certainly provide assistance in the murder of Russians. AND while there's nothing you can do about it.

        By the way, this situation is not new. During the 2nd Patriotic War, Vlasov's army fought on the side of the Nazis. Someone deceived, someone intimidated, and someone with sincere hatred for the new Russia. Everything is like now.
    2. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 22 February 2022 13: 31
      +1
      this text was written on February 18, even before all the events, I finally don’t need to change my shoes, I analyze the facts and draw conclusions based on them
      And you don’t need to tell me what to write and about what, I’ll figure it out myself without snotty ones, I don’t know you at all and never knew you, you appeared here a week ago (conditionally, let it be a month, it doesn’t matter!) And you are already downloading rights, demanding satisfaction. With what fright?! You were not here! Let go! And less pathos, from the outside it looks funny
    3. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 22 February 2022 13: 34
      +1
      And yes, I am NOT wasting letters to explain my predictions. But so far two have come true. And the spiteful critics have a lot of reasoning, the lack of clear forecasts that can be checked for sales, and they don’t even guess the direction, not to mention the facts.

      I don’t do forecasts, the Hydrometeorological Center is a floor above!
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 22 February 2022 13: 56
        0
        Well, yes. I already wrote what the word forecast means. But you never learned that word.
        And in general, you are very often repeated. This is a bad sign.
  37. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 22 February 2022 05: 46
    +2
    Quote: Seas Boreas
    USA IS CRASHING.

    We have to be careful not to get hit by shrapnel. And it didn't kill. Large and dangerous animal.
  38. gla172 Offline gla172
    gla172 (Sergei) 22 February 2022 07: 04
    0
    British Defense Minister Ben Wallace said that Russia does not have internationally recognized authority over the Donbass, and "London should not approve of the possible recognition of the region." However, London does not recognize Rostov and Voronezh either - and this, as they say, is the problem of London.
    1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 22 February 2022 09: 24
      +3
      But the West did not need to recognize Kosovo, so as not to bite its own elbows later. That's where the snowball started. If one can do it, why not the other? And the phrase - "This is different" - does not work in such cases. There can be no other. If one opened a window of opportunity, then no one can close it until the next Yalta conference...
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  40. Alsur Offline Alsur
    Alsur (Alexey) 22 February 2022 13: 24
    +1
    Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    You write about the period when the USSR was already dying and it was not at all like what it was during the normal USSR.

    In what years was the "normal" USSR and what year did the dying begin in your opinion.

    Before Gorbachev came, everything was in order, it is strange that you do not know this, but talk about the USSR like a specialist.
  41. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 22 February 2022 13: 55
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    Quote: Volkonsky
    and you are already downloading the rights, demanding satisfaction. With what fright?! You were not here! Let go! And less pathos, from the outside it looks funny

    Do I need satisfaction? Do you know well what this word means?
    About pathos. I repeat once again on a similar accusation. I have no pathos, but irony.
  42. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 22 February 2022 14: 02
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    Quote: Volkonsky
    My conclusions were based on the axiom that Putin does not benefit from the war in Ukraine

    Well, again, you don't know what the word "axiom" means.
    Why do you keep using words you don't know the meaning of?
    Conclusions cannot be based on hypotheses. Not even a theory, but a simple hypothesis. Moreover, I personally am sure that the hypothesis is too primitive to be true.
  43. Bahadur Offline Bahadur
    Bahadur (Stanislas) 22 February 2022 14: 38
    +3
    Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    Quote: Volkonsky
    My conclusions were based on the axiom that Putin does not benefit from the war in Ukraine

    Well, again, you don't know what the word "axiom" means.
    Why do you keep using words you don't know the meaning of?
    Conclusions cannot be based on hypotheses. Not even a theory, but a simple hypothesis. Moreover, I personally am sure that the hypothesis is too primitive to be true.

    = Sir (or Comrade?) Expert, your views, statements, even predictions, as it were, coincide with both mine and Volkonsky's views. But your duel with fatisfaction here, guys, is already us, Russian readers, KUMARIT.
    You, better, two Russian peasants, would jointly squeak the Nazis here, the office in Haifa and the Baltic States, and similar fascists and traitors.
    It seems that both of your views coincide, well, what are you guys? - we Russians need not just to be friends, but to love each other - and it doesn’t matter what city we are from: Kharkov or Moscow, Bialystok or Harbin, Kazan or Verny: we are ALL Russians, don’t both of you agree with this ??
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 22 February 2022 14: 51
      +1
      Comrade
      Agree. Perhaps I'm too meticulous and eater.
      I confess - I could not guess the behavior of the author. This is unexpected and instructive for me.
      That side is not interesting. I just don’t read notorious ones - I put minuses and that’s it.
      Old arguments, old methods. I went through this in 2014-2015.
  44. Bahadur Offline Bahadur
    Bahadur (Stanislas) 22 February 2022 15: 07
    +2
    Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    Comrade
    Agree. Perhaps I'm too meticulous and eater.
    I confess - I could not guess the behavior of the author. This is unexpected and instructive for me.
    That side is not interesting. I just don’t read notorious ones - I put minuses and that’s it.
    Old arguments, old methods. I went through this in 2014-2015.

    = You even lifted my spirits with your answer.
    You see - how easy it is in Russia (not like in Europe - believe me, I know the difference): like, .. you look at a man or you go somewhere with him And at first ... he strains you with something. But we got into a conversation, and, sometimes, then you think - there is no better person, interesting! Well, and, you understand later - What was "strained" at first: you just looked, as it were, in a mirror ...

    Thank you for your positive response.
    I hope Vladimir and Volkonsky will also write something similar here.
    We are waiting
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 22 February 2022 17: 24
      +1
      you can just call me Wolf, this is my nickname on the network, they really fixed it here. Regarding our Wolf Messing, I already wrote everything to you in a personal, I don’t fight or compete with him, I can talk with everyone, even with opponents, if they don’t get personal, and if they don’t try to talk to me from top to bottom, exclusively equally. I don’t consider myself a Great Oracle and I don’t pretend to Globa’s laurels, I just analyze the facts and try to build a logical picture based on them. I can of course be wrong, this means that the fact that was taken as a basis and recognized as an axiom was initially chosen incorrectly. Here I am already separate comrades, with whom you offer me to make peace, while I did not quarrel with them, they accuse me of not knowing some terms, they offer to look into the dictionary (and after these words you offer me to continue communication no matter how I don't suffer from the mania of self-mutilation! Why should I communicate with people who initially put themselves above me, asserting themselves at my expense?!). I don't even look in the dictionary, I know that an axiom is a statement that does not require proof, and satisfaction is satisfaction. But in principle, grandfather Krylov described this phenomenon long before me. I have associations only with a dog and a motorcycle
  45. Bahadur Offline Bahadur
    Bahadur (Stanislas) 22 February 2022 17: 23
    0
    Comrade Expert, forgive my curiosity: here I am from the city of Karaganda, Volkonsky from the city of Kharkov. Which city are you from?
    (Our "geography" is just interesting - a big, after all, country))
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 22 February 2022 18: 01
      +2
      Omsk.

      But you won't find me there - Kiev saboteurs! winked
      And if you find it, you will regret it like Zelensky about becoming president.
  46. Bahadur Offline Bahadur
    Bahadur (Stanislas) 22 February 2022 17: 44
    0
    Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    Comrade
    Agree. Perhaps I'm too meticulous and eater.
    I confess - I could not guess the behavior of the author. This is unexpected and instructive for me.
    That side is not interesting. I just don’t read notorious ones - I put minuses and that’s it.
    Old arguments, old methods. I went through this in 2014-2015.

    \uXNUMXd Wolf, the man SAM writes that he was wrong And he even gives you a compliment.
    I don’t know, Brothers, if Russian peasants argue over trifles like this, and argue about Nothing, then this current will play into the hands of our enemies and along the way they take advantage of such moments.
    PySy: So I once lived / was in Bialystok, and do you know how the local Belarusians (kats * aps, or Russians) differ from the Mazurs (visiting Poles)? - Poles, healthy men, Slavs go, - like women gossip and swear in squeaky voices: it's funny to watch, really)))
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 23 February 2022 07: 22
      +1
      \uXNUMXd Wolf, the man SAM writes that he was wrong And he even gives you a compliment.

      and then casually tells me that I don't know the meaning of the words axiom and satisfaction! mind you, I don’t teach him life, I don’t tell him what to write about and what not, I don’t comment on his writings at all, I don’t touch him, but at the same time you tell me - make peace with him. It's like saying to Putin, make peace with Zelensky. And who is Zelensky? And why should Putin put up with him? And who is this iksperd? I don’t know, but by the time it went on the air, I immediately said that his Kremlin was beyond the Urals
  47. Bahadur Offline Bahadur
    Bahadur (Stanislas) 22 February 2022 18: 24
    0
    Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    Omsk.

    But you won't find me there - Kiev saboteurs! winked
    And if you find it, you will regret it like Zelensky about becoming president.

    Both Omsk itself and Omsk are simply wonderful - I have been there many times
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 22 February 2022 18: 34
      +1
      Yeah. And I am the pride of Omsk.
      I've often been told that I'm either a genius or a .diot.
      And lately they only say that I am a genius.
      (and didn't lie a word winked )
  48. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 23 February 2022 03: 21
    0
    If we compare the current situation with football, then in fact nothing has changed.
    They just took the game away from their goal, and now there is a pass in the center of the field.
    To win you have to go on the attack. Score a goal, two is better. And do not miss the return goal into your own net.
    Playing defensively, playing for a draw is not good for us. Therefore, it is necessary to take risks and throw all forces into the attack.
    The first goal is the liberation of the territory of the republics. The second is the liberation of Novorossiya. A 2:1 win is much better than a 0:1 loss.

    The recognition of the republics is like a sudden doping control, commissioned by an opponent, before the game.
    And we have all the players were clean. What turned out to be very dissatisfied "partners".
  49. Panikovsky Offline Panikovsky
    Panikovsky (Mikhail Samuelevich Panikovsky) 23 February 2022 14: 46
    0
    Famously stated, but reeks of conspiracy theories.
  50. FrankyStein Offline FrankyStein
    FrankyStein (FrankyStein) 23 February 2022 15: 30
    0
    Well, if Ze doesn't fall for the bluff, what's the plan? If you still decide to go to the bow, you may not come back then, and everyone knows that.
  51. Alsur Offline Alsur
    Alsur (Alexey) 24 February 2022 08: 37
    0
    Quote: gunnerminer
    In the 60s, parents sent from Kazakhstan to relatives in Sverdlovsk, Novosibirsk, Chelyabinsk, dried meat, kurt, milk powder. In these cities, even then there were big problems with food.

    I'll tell you more, and people from Ryazan, Saratov, etc. went to Moscow to buy sausage, although both there and there are large meat processing plants where sausage was made, which was then sent to Moscow, which was then bought by residents of other regions, and trains were called sausage trains. But except for acutely scarce products, the same sausage, caviar, etc., everything else lay quietly in the stores. All milk (sour cream, cream, etc.), meat, chicken, egg, etc. e. Everything was in abundance. It's 70 years old.
  52. Alsur Offline Alsur
    Alsur (Alexey) 24 February 2022 08: 40
    0
    Quote: gunnerminer
    ago

    How are you, by the way, did you go anywhere from Ukraine? Or did you not broadcast from Ukraine anymore?