Russian Aerospace Forces received serial Su-57

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On Thursday, January 20, the next Unified Day of Acceptance of the Military equipment, during which Alexei Krivoruchko, Deputy Head of the Russian Military Department, announced that the Russian Aerospace Forces had received 17 new combat aircraft last year.


In particular, the Russian Aerospace Forces have been replenished with two new serial fifth-generation Su-57 fighters. The fighters were delivered in accordance with the plans of the Gagarin aircraft plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur (KnAAZ) for 2021. According to sources, combat aircraft have tail numbers "51 blue" and "52 blue". One of the aircraft was featured in a promotional video for KnAAZ.


It is also reported that this year the manufacturer intends to supply four Su-57 units to the troops.

The first serial Su-57 made a test flight in December 2019, but a few days later it crashed as a result of a failure in the control system. Tests of the second serial fighter took place in October 2020. The aircraft was handed over in December of the same year, however, the official transfer of the Su-57 to the Ministry of Defense took place only in January 2021.
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  1. greenchelman Offline greenchelman
    greenchelman (Grigory Tarasenko) 21 January 2022 12: 10
    -7
    Weren’t they going to transfer 4 Su-57 units to the troops in 2021, and 2022 units in 6, buzzing all the ears of the media? Shoigu said in December 2020 that in general, by the end of 2024, 22 Su-57 units will be built and transferred to the troops, and after 2024 they will begin to produce 16 Su-57 units per year. But somehow I believe in work, watching the snail's pace. That is, the "sources" have been stupidly lying for years, right?
    https://topcor.ru/23415-istochnik-soobschil-o-peredache-vks-chetyreh-su-57-s-nebolshoj-zaderzhkoj.html
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        1. Old Skeptic Offline Old Skeptic
          Old Skeptic (Old Skeptic) 21 January 2022 14: 16
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          And we must not forget that we have an emphasis on air defense, artillery and tanks. The sky closes - air defense (in the broad sense), strikes - artillery, tanks go into the breakthrough, under the cover of the first two.
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                1. Old Skeptic Offline Old Skeptic
                  Old Skeptic (Old Skeptic) 21 January 2022 14: 55
                  -2
                  Are there any complaints about our air defense or artillery (reactive, cannon, OTR), maybe tanks?
                  The points.
                  1. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
                    steelmaker 21 January 2022 16: 18
                    -9
                    Are there any complaints about our air defense or artillery (reactive, cannon, OTR), maybe tanks?

                    Only Putin and especially stubborn ones have claims to the Soviet "Kalash"! Putin has not yet acquired his "galoshes". But no, I was wrong. Already eats two.
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                    2. 123 Offline 123
                      123 (123) 22 January 2022 03: 29
                      -2
                      Only Putin and especially stubborn ones have claims to the Soviet "Kalash"! Putin has not yet acquired his "galoshes". But no, I was wrong. Already eats two.

                      Soviet galoshes? It should be a shame for the ideological Plotoshkinsky salovars to praise ideologically alien footwear. negative This is a relic of tsarism, and even as a result of cooperation with the damned bourgeois laughing

                      1. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
                        steelmaker 22 January 2022 20: 46
                        -7
                        Soviet galoshes?

                        Putin for 20 years, nothing has appeared. Can you name at least something to make it clear that these are Putin's "galoshes"?
                    3. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
                      Dart2027 22 January 2022 09: 33
                      +1
                      Quote: steel maker
                      Putin has not yet acquired his "galoshes". But no, I was wrong. Already eats two.

                      Yes, my dears, yes. No need to debate. The fact is that what we produced, and no need to wave your hands, was not needed by anyone, because no one bought our galoshes, except for the Africans, who had to walk on the hot sand. That's the whole point.
                      We had a defense industry - cool, strong, and we are still proud of it. We are grateful to our grandfathers and our fathers for creating such a defense industry after the Great Patriotic War.

                      Voice from the audience:
                      - And the first satellite.
                      V. V. Putin:
                      - Both the first satellite and the first man in space are our common pride, these are the achievements of the Soviet regime, of which we are all proud. These are nationwide achievements.

                      But consumer goods ... Zhirinovsky has already said this. Where were they? They weren't there. Let's not lie to each other and to the people. The people know what was and what was not.
                      (Plenary session of the State Duma (May 8, 2012))
                      1. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
                        steelmaker 22 January 2022 20: 53
                        -8
                        no one needed it, because no one bought our galoshes, except for the Africans

                        List what they buy from us now? Not even galoshes! Putin only R.........can trade. If I'm wrong, list what Africa buys from us? Just don’t, I don’t need to list Soviet technologies, you list Putin’s for me. If in 20 years there were such!
                      2. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
                        Dart2027 22 January 2022 21: 12
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                        Quote: steel maker
                        If I'm wrong, list what Africa buys from us?

                        https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/61e8746f9a7947475ba309fb

                        Quote: steel maker
                        Just don’t, I don’t need to list Soviet technologies, you list Putin’s for me.

                        List me the achievements of the USSR not based on what was received from the Republic of Ingushetia.
                      3. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
                        steelmaker 22 January 2022 21: 17
                        -6
                        Education should be received, not bought.
                      4. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
                        Dart2027 22 January 2022 23: 21
                        +4
                        Quote: steel maker
                        Education must be received

                        That you are self-critical.
                  2. Vladimir Petroff Offline Vladimir Petroff
                    Vladimir Petroff (Vladimir Petroff) 24 January 2022 17: 16
                    0
                    Recently I was surprised to learn that there is a trade surplus between Russia and the United States. Just towards Russia. The very first example that everyone hears about is titanium products for the US aviation industry. And it is products and not stupid raw materials.
            2. greenchelman Offline greenchelman
              greenchelman (Grigory Tarasenko) 21 January 2022 19: 06
              +1
              I have complaints about the speed of production of the Su-57
              1. wamp Offline wamp
                wamp 21 January 2022 21: 37
                +2
                3 production aircraft have already been produced and transferred (with the crashed one, there would have been four)
                There will be four more in 2022.
                It makes no sense to speed up production, since the equipment is still changing (both in production and inside the aircraft) and a new engine is expected.
                1. Half a hundred second Offline Half a hundred second
                  Half a hundred second (Half a half second) 23 January 2022 10: 49
                  -2
                  Quote: Wamp
                  3 production aircraft have already been produced and transferred

                  About transferred - not a word is said. Where is it transferred? The first (second) serial sign where, went to the Akhtubinsky GLITs, but nothing was said about these two.

                  Quote: Wamp
                  It makes no sense to speed up production, since the equipment is still changing (both in production and inside the aircraft) and a new engine is expected.

                  Do you imagine mass production? In your opinion, the line is being redone right on the go? Brad do not carry.
                  The first of the contracted aircraft will be with the engine of the "first stage" (at least until the middle of the 2020s, because as soon as they plan to complete the tests of the "product 2024" by the end of 30), this has long been reported to everyone, you, apparently, in that skipped a day?

                  The problem of low production rates is the lack of production capacity and personnel at the plant. Have you watched the video? He, of course, is here for other reasons (to show the assembly line), but still the "job fair" says a lot.

                  Another problem that is no longer dependent on KnAAZ is subcontractors, suppliers of systems and equipment. How many of the same Belka radars are produced in our country? It is impossible to hand over an incomplete aircraft, you won’t argue with that?
                2. wamp Offline wamp
                  wamp 23 January 2022 13: 47
                  -1
                  Quote: Half a century and a half
                  Do you imagine mass production? In your opinion, the line is being redone right on the go?

                  Even a loaded conveyor is being upgraded. It is not used in large-scale aviation and they talk about a line that does not move at all.
                  And the equipment is constantly serviced and occasionally changed for repair or modernization.

                  Quote: Half a century and a half
                  Do not carry nonsense.

                  You have rudeness splashes.

                  Quote: Half a century and a half
                  The first of the contracted aircraft will be with the engine of the "first stage" (at least until the middle of the 2020s, because as soon as they plan to complete the tests of the "product 2024" by the end of 30), this has long been reported to everyone, you, apparently, in that skipped a day?

                  You just described my brief information more fully.
                  But your writings can be further expanded to infinite pettiness - to the very screw or welding point.

                  Quote: Half a century and a half
                  The problem of low production rates is the lack of production capacity and personnel at the plant.

                  Power allocated. Do you think the cadres should sit in the shop, smoke and wait for orders?
                  There is still a lot to hold together at the level of subcontractors, where a lot is still changing in the components themselves, and until this process takes some stability, there is nothing to drive the main production.

                  Quote: Half a century and a half
                  How many of the same Belka radars are produced in our country?

                  And who needs them? How many planes will be ordered - so many stations will be made.
                  In addition, it is necessary to take into account the rapid obsolescence of electronics. The question is already in ROFAR.

                  Quote: Half a century and a half
                  It is impossible to hand over an incomplete aircraft, you won’t argue with that?

                  You are just "Mr. refined banality."
                3. Half a hundred second Offline Half a hundred second
                  Half a hundred second (Half a half second) 23 January 2022 19: 11
                  -2
                  Quote: Wamp
                  You are just "Mr. refined banality."

                  and someone (we will not poke a finger) dares to poke me for rudeness.

                  Why didn’t you write about “platitudes”, fixated on waiting for a new engine? It is said that it may be by the end of 2024, and I did not name such dates. But there is a release plan, that is, about half of the boards will have to be assembled with old engines. And this is also no secret to anyone. Therefore, your expectation of "weather by the sea" (i.e. engines) at the moment is not at all the reason for the low rate of aircraft production. That's what you were told about. Is that clearer?

                  Quote: Wamp
                  Do you think the cadres should sit in the shop, smoke and wait for orders?

                  and does KnAAZ have only one Su-57 in its portfolio of orders?

                  Quote: Wamp
                  And who needs them? How many planes will be ordered - so many stations will be made.

                  Either you don't understand, or you pretend that you don't understand what I'm talking about. I talked about whether, for example, the radar supplier keeps within the deadlines? Other hardware vendors? Trite at least the same wheels for the chassis (for example. But you, of course, get hung up on the wheels). There are a lot of suppliers, and they all have to work in harmony. Now for the radar. AFAR is not PFAR, there is a completely different element base. New for us. You didn’t refute anything, but began to carry a blizzard for the fact that AFAR is already the last century, etc.
                4. wamp Offline wamp
                  wamp 24 January 2022 04: 45
                  -2
                  Quote: Half a century and a half
                  and someone (we will not poke a finger) dares to poke me for rudeness.

                  How is it that you are rude (and admit it), and I am so inferior, I should not dare to dip you ...

                  Quote: Half a century and a half
                  I talked about whether, for example, the radar supplier keeps within the deadlines?

                  There is network planning with logistics, and there they scatter orders according to the capabilities of enterprises. Everyone is interested in orders from the defense industry. And any violation of the deadlines is severely punished by the ruble, so that others do not want to stupidly wind up money on interest.

                  Quote: Half a century and a half
                  AFAR is not PFAR, there is a completely different element base. New for us. You did not refute anything, but began to bear the blizzard for the fact that AFAR is already the last century, etc.

                  Well, they are also the past millennium.
                  Your technical level corresponds to a mass couch expert, well, technical education is not visible at all (this is not a reproach, since people learn differently).
                  AFAR and PFAR are at the same fundamental and technological level. The difference is only in the complexity of the working element and the technical complexity of cooling during radiation.
                  AFAR is already well mastered in Russia, but was late in application. There was a serious development of algorithms and instead of AFAR came the CAR, which can be seen in the locator-grids of Russia in the meter and decimeter ranges (although the hacks continue to stupidly call them AFAR). This simplifies the design of the antenna elements, but transfers a huge part of the work to the calculator, which completely forms the signal shape (amplitude, period, phase, and modulations from the transmitted information). CAR allows you to determine the size of objects and their contour options (within the resolution of the wavelength)

                  Now antenna systems / sensors have moved into a higher frequency range, close to the optical one and showing the corresponding properties - ROFAR has appeared. Here it is still hard to work in real time (speed and amount of calculations). But the problem is more in the absence of a ready-made element base for these tasks. And we see objects as in a b / w TV with blur and noise.
                5. Half a hundred second Offline Half a hundred second
                  Half a hundred second (Half a half second) 24 January 2022 09: 34
                  -1
                  Quote: Wamp
                  How is it that you are rude (and admit it)

                  where did I confess? I wrote (a quote to the studio) that you are descending to rudeness, but you dare to blame me for that.

                  Quote: Wamp
                  There is network planning with logistics, and there they scatter orders according to the capabilities of enterprises. Everyone is interested in orders from the defense industry. And any violation of the deadlines is severely punished by the ruble, so that others do not want to stupidly wind up money on interest.

                  oh holy simplicity! It should be so, but how is it in reality? You were in a coma, don’t you know the history of at least the same Su-57? How many times have lines been shifted to the right for various reasons? Although the plan was drawn and approved.
                  Estimate, even under Stalin they wrote plans, but managed to disrupt them - and then it was not the ruble that was at stake, but something more serious.

                  Quote: Wamp
                  ROFAR appeared

                  so far in your dreams. We are talking about reality, about a real aircraft, and real radars for it, which are here and now, developed, passed the entire test cycle, received a letter and approved for production, and not just approved, but produced and equipped with aircraft. Is there such a ROFAR? No, that's why keep quiet for him in a rag.

                  Quote: Wamp
                  AFAR and PFAR are at the same fundamental and technological level.

                  what are you talking about! And this torso dares to call me a sofa expert and denies a technical education.
                  The fundamental difference between AFAR and PFAR is that each of its modules is active, in PFAR there is one powerful generator-amplifier - a lamp. And you need a lot of such modules, this is microwave electronics, but how are we doing with electronics in the know?
                  AFAR for us - at least flying - is a fairly new topic. And it is naive to expect that everything will roll right away and like clockwork.
                  Do you have information that there are no problems with the production of Belka?

                  I would say who you are, but censorship will not let you through. But you guessed it.)
                6. wamp Offline wamp
                  wamp 24 January 2022 14: 40
                  -3
                  Quote: Half a century and a half
                  I wrote (a quote to the studio) that you descend to rudeness, but dare to blame me.

                  Quote: Half a century and a half
                  Do not carry nonsense.

                  It was a quote. And your question too.

                  Quote: Half a century and a half
                  where did I confess?

                  That is:

                  Quote: Half a century and a half
                  and someone (we will not poke a finger) dares to poke me behind boorishness.

                  Or do you have insufficient knowledge of Russian speech?

                  Quote: Half a century and a half
                  Estimate, even under Stalin they wrote plans, but managed to disrupt them - and then it was not the ruble that was at stake, but something more serious.

                  In 1946, Stalin set the key tasks for the five-year plan, but they were only completed fifteen years later. According to your idea, he was supposed to shoot the whole country in 1951. If you don't know, don't lie.

                  Quote: Half a century and a half
                  And this torso dares to call me a sofa expert and denies a technical education.
                  The fundamental difference between AFAR and PFAR is that each of its modules is active, in PFAR there is one powerful generator-amplifier - a lamp.

                  Here you are again confirmed your title ....
                  Fundamentally, the most difficult part of the HEADLIGHT element in both cases is the receiver. An active radiator, in the form of a pair of power elements, uses the same resonant-phase system as the receiver - it is only an additive and the problem is in its cooling (the receiver works normally only in cold weather).
                  What am I telling a schoolboy here? It doesn't even know the basics of radio engineering.

                  Quote: Half a century and a half
                  AFAR for us - at least flying - is a fairly new topic.

                  For you - probably generally unattainable.
                  For Russia, it is no longer interesting.

                  Quote: Half a century and a half
                  And it is naive to expect that everything will roll right away and like clockwork.

                  Since 2007, they have played in "Zhuk-A" and that's enough (MiG-35, Ka-52k).

                  Quote: Half a century and a half
                  Do you have information that there are no problems with the production of Belka?

                  Why are you interested in?

                  Quote: Half a century and a half
                  I would say who you are, but censorship will not let you through. But you guessed it.)

                  What, rude again?
                  Is it a dill-Nazi worm in your head (or in ...) raging?
                7. Half a hundred second Offline Half a hundred second
                  Half a hundred second (Half a half second) 24 January 2022 17: 40
                  -1
                  Quote: Wamp
                  In 1946, Stalin set the key tasks for the five-year plan, but they were only completed fifteen years later. According to your idea, he was supposed to shoot the whole country in 1951.

                  where did I say that? Did you not understand what was written? He also pretends to be smart and teaches) And it was said that even under Stalin, when failure to fulfill the plan could be punished not only with a ruble, but also sent for a certain period of time to harvest lumber in uncomfortable conditions, they managed to miss deadlines. You tell me fairy tales that now they cannot disrupt plans. Storyteller)

                  Do not bother to explain something for the radar. I understand your "highest" level, I'm far from it. So low, below the plinth, I did not fall and will not fall) You do not know anything and are talking nonsense.

                  Quote: Wamp
                  What, rude again?

                  No, it's you who are rude, without ceasing. Marvel at your pearls:

                  Quote: Wamp
                  Is it a dill-Nazi worm in your head (or in ...) raging?

                  What does dill, Nazis, etc. have to do with it, when it comes to aircraft, you, of course, are not able to explain.

                  You could not explain where I got nasty to you, but you constantly allow yourself to do this. At least they had the conscience not to reproach me for that. Who shouts the loudest "stop the thief!"? That is it.

                  Therefore, with a clear conscience, I have the right to call you a liar and an empty talk.

                  Quote: Wamp
                  they played in "Zhuk-A" and that's enough (MiG-35

                  there is still no AFAR on the MiG-35. Otherwise, he would not have leaked (including for this reason) the Indian tender.
                  And on the Su-57, on the latest aircraft, why are they still "playing" with AFAR, since this is already the "last century"? Do you think everyone is an idiot, spending money on obsolete equipment?
                  You should not answer, a "specialist" of such a level as you will not be able to write anything intelligible, only nonsense. Sorry, but your writing is a little bit not sharp, not interesting from the word at all.
  • assault 2019 Offline assault 2019
    assault 2019 (assault 2019) 22 January 2022 11: 40
    -1
    In your opinion, Russian aviation does not need nafik?
    It is better to buy tanks, guns and anti-aircraft guns ....
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  • Orange bigg Offline Orange bigg
    Orange bigg (Alexander ) 21 January 2022 21: 17
    +1
    Quote: greenchelman
    Weren’t they going to transfer 4 Su-57 units to the troops in 2021, and 2022 units in 6, buzzing all the ears of the media? Shoigu said in December 2020 that in general, by the end of 2024, 22 Su-57 units will be built and transferred to the troops, and after 2024 they will begin to produce 16 Su-57 units per year. But somehow I believe in work, watching the snail's pace. That is, the "sources" have been stupidly lying for years, right?
    https://topcor.ru/23415-istochnik-soobschil-o-peredache-vks-chetyreh-su-57-s-nebolshoj-zaderzhkoj.html

    They were going to, but the plans changed somewhat. After all, it is necessary to assemble the Su-75 somewhere to start testing in 2023. In my opinion, I read somewhere about 2 or 3 units of the Su-75.
  • Oleg Bratkov Offline Oleg Bratkov
    Oleg Bratkov (Oleg Bratkov) 22 January 2022 00: 46
    0
    You just found out that: "Everyone lies calendars"?
  • weddu Offline weddu
    weddu (Kolya) 23 January 2022 13: 04
    +2
    Where do you see the problem? Today, the SU-35S, SU-30SM, SU-34 are quite enough to gain air supremacy ... And the Su-57 will be tested at the State Flight Test Center in Akhtubinsk (Astrakhan Region), the military will "run in" the car, they will train instructor pilots and technicians, begin to train pilots for combat units, by that time they will have prepared the infrastructure for new equipment in units, after which mass deliveries will begin. There is nowhere to hurry, and there is no need, everything has its time.
  • Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 21 January 2022 14: 20
    -7
    Well, they screwed up all the promised deadlines, a common thing ..
    For another 10 years, Putin scolded state officials for this, and for failure to fulfill the state defense order.
    Everyone is used to it, you can't argue against the Serdyukovs.

    But we got it!! Now we have as many as 3 SU57s in VKS!!!
    1. greenchelman Offline greenchelman
      greenchelman (Grigory Tarasenko) 21 January 2022 14: 26
      -8
      And in January 2023, they will announce that we now have as many as 57 Su-7s (if they fulfill the promise). At the same time, the Americans have already produced more than 700 F-35s and are riveting 140 pieces a year .. Just keep in mind that out of the promised 4 Su-57s for 2022, 2 is a defect in 2021 ... the same ones on the videos and photos are cute and immensely patriotic.
      1. Old Skeptic Offline Old Skeptic
        Old Skeptic (Old Skeptic) 21 January 2022 15: 56
        0
        Again.
        Where should we hurry?
        1. Artillery covers the entire depth of the enemy's defense (shells and missiles are much more difficult to intercept than aircraft and delivery is cheaper). What is the strike mission that aviation performs and artillery cannot perform?

        2. Enemy aircraft, controls air defense.
        3. The main function of the f-35 bomber, because IB. Like a fighter, he ....
        4. Arrange Dresden, Mosul, Belgrade, etc. we do not need.

        And for the current situation, our aviation is developing enough. It's better than running a crude machine into production. We need good technology, and corporations need money (spolte).
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      2. wamp Offline wamp
        wamp 21 January 2022 21: 43
        -3
        Quote: greenchelman
        At the same time, the Americans have already produced more than 700 F-35s and are riveting 140 pieces a year ..

        Let them rivet this imperfection - you call it a "cut".
      3. Oleg Bratkov Offline Oleg Bratkov
        Oleg Bratkov (Oleg Bratkov) 22 January 2022 00: 47
        +1
        An anti-aircraft missile costs less than an F-35.
      4. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 22 January 2022 03: 36
        +2
        And in January 2023, they will announce that we now have as many as 57 Su-7s (if they fulfill the promise). At the same time, the Americans have already produced more than 700 F-35s and are riveting 140 pieces a year ..

        Why are you so nervous? Until the new engine is completed, high production rates are not worth waiting for. So they will rivet 2-4-6 pieces. The American version, when hundreds were riveted, and then they began to think what to do with it, is also not the best option. Why do we need these rakes?
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  • sgrabik Offline sgrabik
    sgrabik (Sergei) 21 January 2022 16: 28
    0
    Well, why is everything moving so slowly, well, is it really impossible to make the necessary efforts and speed up production as much as possible, for this it is necessary to increase the productivity of assembly lines at KNAAZ, as well as at enterprises that produce components and assemblies for the final assembly of the Su-57.
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    2. Old Skeptic Offline Old Skeptic
      Old Skeptic (Old Skeptic) 21 January 2022 19: 35
      +4
      Do you think the lines themselves produce aircraft, or do you need to train specialists? It won't take long to build, but who will work? Around some managers, surrounded by office plankton. Here is the so-called "steelmaker" with comrade Latyshev, they could go to some kind of production, but they are busy - they care about Russia. And the training of qualified personnel is not a quick thing.
    3. bobba94 Offline bobba94
      bobba94 (Vladimir) 22 January 2022 14: 41
      +1
      Here, in one commentary, an explanation is given for such a delay in the release of the Su-57 - fine-tuning the new engine to the condition, this is a completely sane and objective explanation. I would also add the development of new weapons for the Su-57 and avionics. It is more efficient (and cheaper) to drive dozens of Su-57s into the tail and mane, identifying and eliminating the identified shortcomings, than to stamp hundreds of raw F-35s, and then puzzle over special ones. hangars for their storage, over "smart" helmets, over the change of stealth coating, and so on. and so on, and all this multiplied by 700, not 10 .....
      1. Half a hundred second Offline Half a hundred second
        Half a hundred second (Half a half second) 23 January 2022 11: 26
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        Quote: bobba94
        Here, in one comment, an explanation is given for such a delay in the release of the Su-57 - fine-tuning the new engine, this is a completely sane and objective explanation

        but not true. It has long been publicly stated that the first batches of the aircraft will go with the engine of the "first stage", i.e. with AL-41F1
        Estimate for yourself, how many planes need to be produced per year in order to make 7 cars in 76 years? 11 pieces, if in even rows. And if for the first years you beat the buckets and hand over 2-4 aircraft, then when to do the rest? If we can overpower the Su-35s worked out in the series at 12-14 per year, then will they really begin to rivet the Su-57 at 20 pieces per year?

        Quote: bobba94
        I would also add the development of new weapons for the Su-57 and avionics.

        well you give! The plane is in the series, and then ... we start developing new weapons and equipment! Why, then, was it necessary to deploy serial production at all ?!
        That your words, that the words of your "comrade" are an attempt to pull an owl on a globe
    4. ver_ Offline ver_
      ver_ (Vera) 22 January 2022 16: 19
      0
      .. you need to hurry slower ..
  • steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 21 January 2022 16: 37
    -6
    Russian Aerospace Forces replenished with two new serial fighters of the fifth generation Su-57

    It seems that you should be happy, but for some reason you want to cry. We have performance records only in the sale of gas, oil, gold, diamonds and other minerals.
    1. Old Skeptic Offline Old Skeptic
      Old Skeptic (Old Skeptic) 21 January 2022 18: 41
      +5
      Come on!
      When did you rejoice for Russia?
      All posts are written, you can see.
      1. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
        steelmaker 22 January 2022 21: 07
        -2
        you can see.

        Well, look, if you are literate. Explain what to be happy about: salary, pension, purchasing power, mechanical engineering, space? Or all the merit of Putin, that we are not dying of hunger? So I did not die of hunger even under the USSR. Explain what to rejoice? Designate your level of education!
  • AND Offline AND
    AND 22 January 2022 09: 43
    +2
    Quote: steel maker
    Russian Aerospace Forces replenished with two new serial fighters of the fifth generation Su-57

    It seems that you should be happy, but for some reason you want to cry. We have performance records only in the sale of gas, oil, gold, diamonds and other minerals.

    It seems that you need to rejoice, but Steelworker, as usual, boo, boo, boo. One negative person. With age, they say it has a cumulative effect.
    1. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
      steelmaker 22 January 2022 21: 11
      -3
      Do you have the same question? Why rejoice? One plane a year? Explain, reveal your level of education? Or did you buy it?
  • BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine Offline BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine
    BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine 22 January 2022 12: 10
    +3
    To Syria - for a run-in!
  • S WITH Offline S WITH
    S WITH (N S) 22 January 2022 16: 48
    +1
    there is no need to rush, why rivet the su57 of the 5th generation, when the su57 of the 6th generation will soon be)
  • ksa Offline ksa
    ksa 22 January 2022 17: 18
    -1
    With what engines?
  • MSG363 Offline MSG363
    MSG363 (Sergey Melnik) 22 January 2022 18: 43
    +1
    Quote: greenchelman
    Weren’t they going to transfer 4 Su-57 units to the troops in 2021, and 2022 units in 6, buzzing all the ears of the media? Shoigu said in December 2020 that in general, by the end of 2024, 22 Su-57 units will be built and transferred to the troops, and after 2024 they will begin to produce 16 Su-57 units per year. But somehow I believe in work, watching the snail's pace. That is, the "sources" have been stupidly lying for years, right?
    https://topcor.ru/23415-istochnik-soobschil-o-peredache-vks-chetyreh-su-57-s-nebolshoj-zaderzhkoj.html

    They just didn't pick up the pace. As they recruit, they will even produce more after entering the required quantitative framework
    1. EMMM Offline EMMM
      EMMM 22 January 2022 19: 49
      +1
      Ask the UEC when the motors will appear?
      To produce aircraft with the "product 117" is obviously going to re-equip them in the future.
      So don't rush
      1. bobba94 Offline bobba94
        bobba94 (Vladimir) 23 January 2022 14: 08
        +1
        I looked through the comments ........ four or five commentators assess the situation calmly and judiciously, all the rest fall to the floor, kick their arms and legs and scream hysterically - give me the Su-57, I want the Su-57 immediately .... Kindergarten some.
  • Panikovsky Offline Panikovsky
    Panikovsky (Mikhail Samuelevich Panikovsky) 23 February 2022 15: 01
    0
    Presumably, they will go to the GLITS to practice combat use and train combat pilots.