The failure of the "Maidan" in Kazakhstan is more dangerous for the United States than the defeat in Afghanistan

January 7 2022 63

Events in the modern world are changing at a truly kaleidoscopic speed. Or does it just seem to us that, since the moments we are observing are just “final shots” and the final results of multi-pass combinations, the planning and development of which was invisible to everyone? At the time of this writing, there are still reports from Almaty about the ongoing "cleansing" operation in the city from pogromists and terrorists, periodically turning into real street battles.

However, in spite of the fact that the local tragedy is still very far from its end, it is already possible to assert with full confidence: the destructive forces that caused this bloody hell suffered a crushing defeat. Moreover, in this situation we are talking not only about the failed attempt of the next "color" coup d'etat, but about much more serious and global things.

Instead of weakening Russia's positions in the upcoming negotiations with the United States and NATO, which are fateful for the whole world, the crisis in Kazakhstan, or rather the paths that have already been chosen to resolve it, are strengthening them many times over. An effect has been achieved, not just directly, but a multiple of the opposite to what the organizers of the "Maidan" hoped for. It will definitely be easier for the representatives of our country to talk about ensuring peace and security in the “post-Soviet space” after such an impressive demonstration of their own capabilities in this matter. The "Collective West" has already suffered a second failure in recent years, striving to use its favorite and, as it seemed until recently, completely reliable "colored" weapon. The whole world sees that in addition to Sputnik-V, Russia, it seems, has acquired a vaccine against this infection. Well, as the "main prize" our Western "friends" received the "resurrection" of their main nightmare of the Cold War era - an effective military alliance directed against them with our country at the head.

Wrong Maidan - Residents' Mistake?

Before moving on to the main, so to speak, part of the question, it is impossible not to mention that the Kazakh "Maidan" seems to be somehow "wrong". Or rather, even atypical. Usually, all activities of this kind are carried out according to the same type of "manuals" to nausea. However, in Almaty and other populated areas of the country covered by supposedly "spontaneous" protests, the standard action characteristic of all "color revolutions" performed according to transatlantic scenarios did not unfold.

In its process, everything seems to start with peaceful demonstrations, and only after a while does it come to bloodshed, pogroms and terrorist seizures of government bodies. According to standard templates, the rioters should have stomped on the square for some time, built a whole town of tents (or yurts - in accordance with the local specifics), chanted stupid slogans (suspiciously the same on every "Maidan", wherever it took place), put forward authorities knowingly impracticable requirements. "Suffer from police brutality" - naturally, on cameras. Well, and only then, having shoved over-aged loafers who are pretending to be "children" under police batons and water cannons and having received the appropriate "correct picture" for Western TV channels, move on to what, in fact, everything was started for - to the violent seizure of power. And it is more active to throw up our hands at the same time - they say, we didn’t want anything like that, but the “criminal regime” with its “atrocities” provoked the “people” to violence. Which, of course, was "reciprocal." In this case, all these "preludes" flashed, as if captured by accelerated shooting. "Fighters for Democracy", not even having time to properly get rid of the law enforcement officers, turned into armed gangs of pogromists and marauders.

Two versions can be put forward as to why this happened. Quite possibly, in this case there was a well-known to all investigators and judges "kurtosis of the performer" - when the thugs hired to perform certain actions forget about the scenario prescribed by the customers and go all out. This testifies to the fact that the employees of specific "offices" from the United States, who have been spinning in this region for more than a decade (in Afghanistan, at least), have not comprehended the elementary truth that was revealed to the ordinary Red Army soldier Sukhov: "The East is a delicate matter ...". And, as a result, they let things go on their own, being content with only pulling out the cork from the notorious bottle with an extremely vicious and completely inadequate "genie". Otherwise, it should be assumed that the haste (which had January 10 as a "deadline") was so great that it was decided to dispense with ceremonies in the device of the coup and go ahead. Personally, both the first and the second options seem quite plausible to me. In favor of the assumption that “something went wrong,” the statements of some Westerners, primarily the United States, which clearly do not correspond to the current moment, work perfectly.

Well, Psaki with her demands to the authorities of Kazakhstan and representatives of the CSTO, who is trying to restore order in this bloody mess of the CSTO, "unconditionally observe all international obligations regarding human rights and freedoms," did not surprise anyone. In fact, no one is surprised at her for a long time. But the statement of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Michelle Bachelet about the need to "unconditionally release" every single participant in the bloody riots and pogroms in Kazakhstan on the basis that they "exercised their right to peaceful protest" is something! Something beyond good and evil, in my opinion ... The lady, apparently, is not aware of dozens of killed military and police officers, including those found with their heads cut off ?! About hundreds of their colleagues wounded by "peaceful demonstrators"? Obviously, the statement was prepared ahead of time, but they did not think of correcting it, or, even better - keeping silent. Otherwise, we should talk about an unconditional clinic that cannot be treated.

"Warsaw Pact 2.0" - welcome!

The Collective Security Treaty Organization, created in 1992, undoubtedly cannot be compared with the military alliance of the socialist countries, which served as a counterweight to NATO for many decades. In terms of the number of participating states, the gap is not so great, but the fact is that during the times of the Internal Affairs Directorate, the number of the combined forces of which in 1987 reached 6 and a half million people, they were all part of the USSR. Moreover, having found themselves in the status of independent, the former Soviet republics continued to settle scores and sort things out within the framework of international organizations of the “post-Soviet space”. Thus, Georgia and Azerbaijan withdrew from the CSTO. Uzbekistan generally ran back and forth - in 1999 it left its ranks, in 2006 it returned, in 2021 it “slammed the door” again. Kyrgyzstan was not too happy with its membership in this union, which was denied military assistance during the civil confrontation that unfolded in this country in 2010.

Well, and even when serious tensions began between the two states that make up the foundation of the CSTO - Russia and Belarus, many prepared to light a candle for her repose. Until now, the image of this alliance has been negatively affected by the fact that, despite the rather long period of its existence, the states and their armies have not carried out a single joint military or peacekeeping operation. Joint action to suppress drug trafficking, exercises and many meetings of generals and ministers are certainly good. However, the true fighting brotherhood is forged exclusively in powder smoke, and not at the tables of summits and conferences, even if they are devoted to issues of collective security.

It is not known how the situation would develop further. Perhaps destructive processes would continue in the CSTO, which would ultimately reduce this organization to military cooperation between Minsk and Moscow, thereby making it a meaningless "backup" of the Union State. However, the disaster that broke out in Kazakhstan did not just give a new meaning to the Organization - the events there, truly, breathed life into it and allowed it to move to a completely different level! The Kazakh leader's appeal to the highest body of the CSTO, the Collective Security Council, was considered not only without the slightest delay, but, one might say, with lightning speed. The first Russian paratroopers arrived in the country literally in a matter of hours. First of all, this means that in the field of intelligence and tracking of crisis situations, the Stars and Stripes opponents still have to learn and learn from us. No, everything is clear - the "winged infantry" must always be ready to rush to carry out a combat mission, as they say, flying in. But how quickly, professionally and smoothly the transfer of peacekeepers was organized, says, you will agree, about a lot. At the very least, they didn't manage to catch Moscow by surprise.

There is a certain symbolism in the fact that the official decision to send a united peacekeeping contingent to Kazakhstan was announced by the Prime Minister of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan, who is currently the acting head of the Council. Everyone remembers perfectly well that this leader came to power precisely as a result of the “Maidan” (though definitely much more “civilized” than the events in Almaty). However, it is also axiomatic that in the process of the armed conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh, Armenia was saved from the final defeat solely by the will of our country. Apparently, Pashinyan is aware of this. Moreover, he intends to continue to enjoy the intercession and support of Russia, without denying this right to others.

The disgraceful flight of the American army from Afghanistan was a geopolitical failure of the United States, which called into question its viability as an ally and "senior partner." For the final completeness of the picture, the only thing lacking was the appearance of a real alternative to military cooperation with the Americans. And then she appeared - in all, so to speak, glory. Do not forget that Serbia and Afghanistan are present in the CSTO Parliamentary Assembly as observers. Iran is showing a clear and consistent interest in it. An interesting alignment is emerging, isn't it? And who said that over time this Organization will not become many times stronger and more numerous than the Department of Internal Affairs, which has long been a thing of the past? In any case, the introduction of the peacekeeping contingent in Kazakhstan made the first step in this direction.

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tulip

+14

7 January 2022 11: 21

Yeah. Western intelligence miscalculated. Although at least they had the example of Kyrgyzstan in front of their eyes and they had to understand that Maidans in Asia are not Maidans in Serbia or Ukraine. Here they really release a medieval genie with its bloodiest thoughts, and then the "rebellious" people simply turn into a medieval crowd robbing, killing and setting fire to everything and everyone. The specifics are still different in different regions of the world - everything cannot be copied with one copy)
Joker62

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7 January 2022 11: 35

What kind of Warsaw Pact 2.0 ???
Sweetheart, come to your senses. Is Kazakhstan included in the Warsaw Pact?
Or are you hinting like the CSTO - the Varashav Treaty ???
If so, there will be a very bloody suppression of the riot.
And here, on the contrary - to allow the spread of civil war throughout Kazakhstan.
The best example is Belarus or the bad example is Ukraine.
To have an incessant civil war under its borders is nowhere worse!
1. MSG363
  
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  8 January 2022 03: 19
  
  My mom, you don't know history at all by definition, or is this a principled position due to political orientation? Kazakhstan was included in the Warsaw Pact by default as it was one of the republics of the USSR. Secondly, there are no hints here, since the CSTO performs the same functions as the former Warsaw Pact, the defense and defense of the countries of the members of the treaty, which it has shown now. Thirdly. There will simply not be any civil war, there is nothing to spread out, it is not the population who is fighting the army of Kazakhstan, but ordinary mercenaries funded by Americans and Kazakh renegades living abroad. They will simply be crushed and liquidated so that they do not run away to other countries to do exactly what they are doing now, in other words, terrorism. But the examples are given correctly, but Ukraine does not, at the moment, conduct active hostilities because it is just afraid to lose its statehood at all, as it was historically, being the territory of the Russian Empire. If he suddenly tries to unleash a civil war again. So Russia is just more or less coping with the attempts of the Americans to unleash military conflicts near its border.
  1. Astronaut
    
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    8 January 2022 08: 09
    
    Still, personally, I am inclined to the version that this particular operation is not American, but our worst friends from foggy Albion (of course, the Americans were aware of it))
    1. EMMM
      
      0
      
      10 January 2022 00: 55
      
      Only the astronauts do not understand that Foggy Albion does not rule today. And the star whales profiled the topic.
      1. Astronaut
        
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        12 January 2022 23: 21
        
        Wipe Zenki, then you'll see!
KLV

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7 January 2022 12: 42

... at the time of the Internal Affairs Directorate, the number of the combined forces of which in 1987 reached 6 and a half million people, they were all part of the USSR

The author, Poland, Romania, etc. were part of the USSR? It would be necessary to correct the text.
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2. Essex62
  
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  8 January 2022 23: 10
  
  The author had in mind the entry of the ATS countries into the socialist camp.
  There is no point in harboring illusions about the revival of this military-political alliance. Not a monolith and not combat-ready. The fact that the main buy of Kazakhstan was able to harshly suppress the coup, and ours took advantage of the situation and showed the West an instant reaction is definitely a plus, well, that's all.
  An intermediate conclusion was made by the author absolutely correct - the CSTO as a force is the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus.
  1. EMMM
    
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    10 January 2022 00: 57
    
    I would like to note the participation of other countries in the operation.
    1. Essex62
      
      0
      
      12 January 2022 19: 57
      
      If it comes to a real fight, they won't even be able to cope with it as auxiliary ones. They will only get confused under their feet. What are all these "sovereign feuds", fragments of the USSR, was shown by Karabakh.
Anchonsha

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7 January 2022 13: 28

The reason that Western participants, incl. and Ukrainian oligarchs such as Akhmetov violated the instructions for "color revolutions" and began to hastily follow instructions from the United States to strengthen their positions during the talks between the Russian Federation and the United States scheduled for January 10 at the request of our President on security. That is why the mercenaries in Kazakhstan, almost without preambles and putting forward impossible demands on Nazarbayev, began to smash and rob shops, seize administrative buildings. The United States did not have time to simply prepare the ground for making its demands against Tokayev, so that he would observe democracy in his actions with the pogromists, not use force, etc.
1. Pandiurin
  
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  7 January 2022 23: 53
  
  Quote: Anchonsha
  The reason that Western participants, incl. and Ukrainian oligarchs like Akhmetov violated the instructions
  on "color revolutions" and began hastily to fulfill instructions from the United States to strengthen their positions during the talks between the Russian Federation and the United States scheduled for January 10 at the request of our President on security. That is why the mercenaries in Kazakhstan, almost without prefaces and making impossible demands on Nazarbayev, began to smash and rob shops, seize administrative buildings. The United States did not have time to simply prepare the ground for making its demands against Tokayev, so that he would observe democracy in his actions with the pogromists, not use force, etc.
  
  In Belarus, it was according to a slow phased scenario. It did not grow together. In Kazakhstan, the slow scenario would not work either, as if everyone already knows that going to an agreement is a loss.
  The calculation was for lightning speed, so the administration buildings were burned.
  It was necessary to demonstrate that the power had completely collapsed and to demoralize the security officials so that they would surrender, surrender their warehouses with weapons, and did not resist. The Blitzkrieg is not a fault of the West, but a plan that could well have worked.
  
  Apparently, the authorities in Kazakhstan also acted at some moments in a non-standard way, which broke the plans of the Mayids.
  
  I do not want to say that Tokayev acted brilliantly, there was no such thing, there was confusion, but nevertheless ...
  
  Too quickly it was completely dismissed, the Nazarbayev government, not under Tokayev's control, together with Nazarbayev himself, immediately guaranteed the previous gas price, which was a formal reason for the rebellion.
  
  I wonder what happened in Alma-Ata, the security forces disappeared from the city for a while.
  It could have been different while they were demoralized, they would have been captured and forced to surrender, to go over to the side of the rebels. They reappeared in Alma-Ata (together with the Airborne Forces) when there was already a message on the CSTO, if I am not mistaken. We regrouped, armed ourselves and proceeded to clean up.
  
  The influence of the West is at its peak and is beginning to wane.
  Most likely, the West in Kazakhstan went vabank, if it was not possible to turn the Maidan now, then later, too, they were unlikely to expect "success."
  1. EMMM
    
    +1
    
    10 January 2022 01: 01
    
    I would change the spelling of the word west to west in your text.
    And so I completely agree.
Denis radish

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7 January 2022 14: 53

just in many countries, incl. In the USSR, local elites are finally beginning to realize that "Western civilization" is the most real absolute evil, any agreements and compromises with which lead not to freedom and development, but to enslavement and destruction.
1. Essex62
  
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  9 January 2022 02: 34
  
  For those who are imprisoned for profit and private property, the Western model is the most, then. Well, taking into account the eastern mentality, of course. It's just a clan struggle. The West will not lose influence under any scenario, except for the restoration of socialism. The USSR is now unlikely to be assembled. The Russian people realized that it is more expensive for itself to drag this "delicate matter of the East" on its ridge.
2. Nadezhda Clothes Yalutorovsk
  
  +1
  
  10 January 2022 19: 04
  
  "Local elites" do not care where to eat up the plundered from the people, they will be accepted everywhere with capital, as if they were relatives.
Dmitry Tyagun

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7 January 2022 15: 57

The foreign press again calls for liberalism in relation to bandits and criminals as if on command. With bandits and criminals we must act as they do with people. Burn them with a red-hot iron. And it is necessary to identify organizers and provocateurs, and most importantly, to think about where the current Politics. Not such an angel Nazarbayev, he terribly hates Russia and envies her, this is all from his policy towards Russians and language. Even in Africa. persecuted, and in our entire post-Soviet space, although no one was a colony from these republics, they would not see Russian until burning anger, although it was SOVIET, not Russian. And just every local king dreamed of power and income for himself and his clan , and it happened. But I see that this will pass and a lot will become clear to everyone. I believe that it is necessary first of all to destroy the United States and England (not physically) morally. These are two countries that lead m ir to the abyss because of their great-power aspirations, they do not give a damn about other peoples, but they do not understand that they are chopping the branch on which they sit. I see how the ocean devours both the United States and England into the abyss, it is the Supreme Powers that punish these peoples for their service to the dark forces.
Yuri Khandogin

+7

7 January 2022 16: 59

I think after these events a dozen more states will be asked to join the CSTO.
1. isofat
  
  +3
  
  7 January 2022 18: 19
  
  It is possible that we are witnessing the birth of a new Union!
  1. EMMM
    
    +1
    
    10 January 2022 01: 05
    
    It's too early to say, but I would like to hope. Only the basis of the new Union should be different.
    1. Svetlana Alborova
      
      0
      
      13 January 2022 12: 06
      
      I agree on mutually beneficial terms.
Put_NIK

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7 January 2022 18: 05

Everything is much simpler. The militants transferred from Afgan were caught up and were waiting for their time. Everything there was "tuned" for a coup. It’s just that the list of Putin’s demands on the United States became a trigger. 90% of the fact that Nazarbayev was aware of the future coup, and therefore, as the Minister of Defense, he quietly sat on the sidelines for several days and watched what was happening. He received the command to "sit" from the United States in advance by giving the terrorists time to creep out and start cutting their heads. The West simply did not expect President Tokayev's "harsh" actions. Most likely, after coming to power, he did not just come to Russia to see Putin.
Most likely, he received from him clear instructions on what to do when the coup began. Therefore, he quickly dismissed Nazarbayev, who was sitting on the sidelines, and took over his functions of protecting the country by pulling out the armed soldiers, requesting armed assistance and giving the command to shoot the bandits. This is what the CIA did not expect fell into a "stupor". There was no plan for such an alignment. But it was their action that gave Putin such a club for future negotiations that they never dreamed of even in nightmares. Now there are simply witnesses and evidence of the participation of the United States and England in an attempted coup in a country allied with Russia, and Putin simply informs the West that they crossed the line knowing about the warning in the form of the paper sent to them, and a palisade of hypersonic missiles smoothly appears around the US and NATO countries sticking out so close that their tips will start to scratch the asses of the Anglo-Saxons. Well, the technique that decided to swim and fly in Russia will sink and fall.
1. Essex62
  
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  9 January 2022 02: 38
  
  And you can find out where this palisade will be located close to the cursed island, and even more so to the habitats of puppeteers behind a puddle?
Status

+1

7 January 2022 18: 38

Thanks, good article, makes you think
gunnerminer

-7

7 January 2022 19: 05

It's too early to discuss someone's failure. The Kazakh porridge is still brewing. Not all the ingredients have been introduced into it.
1. isofat
  
  +5
  
  7 January 2022 19: 13
  
  Ingredient, calm down.
2. DV tam 25
  
  +2
  
  8 January 2022 05: 47
  
  It has already cooled down). INGREDIENTS ... uh. yeah, oh, already raguli ..., in short, the ingredients are the same. would (d) lo and the State Department. No others. Both those and others are in flight, only the first were lashed in bursts, and the State Department ... everything is fine in the State Department ... for now.
Alexander K_2

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7 January 2022 19: 47

And what kind of nonsense? Maybe it’s enough to see the hand of the United States around? If you manage an economy for 20-40 years, this does not mean that you are a “CAR”. Although the Romanov dynasty was only 300 years old! Rurik for example 600
1. Dart2027
  
  +3
  
  7 January 2022 21: 13
  
  Quote: Alexander K_2
  Maybe it’s enough to see the hand of the United States around?
  
  It's just there.
  1. DV tam 25
    
    +4
    
    8 January 2022 05: 51
    
    And for a long time he has kept the most local "Elites" there for this and muddies the waters there.
    1. Dart2027
      
      +2
      
      8 January 2022 06: 26
      
      And we must try to stop this practice.
2. tulip
  
  +2
  
  7 January 2022 21: 25
  
  if people take to the streets against the kings, this is one thing, but when a crowd comes out and cuts heads, loots, loots, burns - then this is completely different))) you get dirty and answer you, including you sooner or later)
  1. DV tam 25
    
    +8
    
    8 January 2022 06: 07
    
    There is not just a crowd, this is a so-called. Mambets are beggars and absolutely illiterate (in the literal sense) people (they look like sapiens in appearance). Aggressive and violent. There, there are about 20% of the local population like that in Kazakhstan, an analogue of the Ukrainian Bandera raguli, only more dull. They live on the periphery, they are mainly engaged in day work and buhalov. In short, rare scum. The problem is that there are a lot of them. These cattle were used back in the 90s, a car drove up with vodka and food, and next to a second one with fittings, they drank and ate and shouted slogans like "Russians get out", so nothing new, only then (under the USSR) they were trained , there are vocational schools, FZU all sorts, they fed and tried to tame and there were fewer of them. Now these animals, in fact, well, or, if you like, savages, are practically left to themselves and with a simple organization, and the MAIN THING, if there is food and vodka, this herd will go anywhere and for anyone. With a small (as a whole) number of ideological bastards, all this orgy will perfectly pass for a revolution, even for a crap. A little chants from the Internet and PLEASE - rEvolutionaries are ready!) Tell the Department of State started to communicate with frank. So he is no stranger to, after Ukraine they do not care what material to work with, do not hesitate to do anything. Warriors are kind, like!)
    1. Yuri Valerievich
      
      +5
      
      8 January 2022 10: 39
      
      Absolutely agree! You are, apparently, a fellow countryman who may have already left Kazakhstan, but it is clear that "in the subject". These monkeys are very easy to control, and now "speed" has been added to vodka, laboratories for the production of which were even somehow covered in the mountains of Almaty. And under this rubbish you can create garbage for several days in a row without stopping.
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sapper2

+1

7 January 2022 19: 53

What made the Americans speak ahead of time? Unprepared ..... Weak pretext - price increase ..... In their desire to tear Central Asia away from Russia, they were thrown back for 5 years ...
shinobi

+5

7 January 2022 20: 47

Sane analysts predicted the likelihood of these events when the Yankees were still scrambling from Afghanistan. They need to prove their blood and wear that they are still the hegemon. We were waiting for a batch in Ukraine, and it is likely that it will take place, but the transfer of troops scared the Americans a lot. The Yankees were completely unprepared, completely unaccustomed for 30 years, to harsh actions against them. So they rush about. They have Zugzwang.
shiva

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7 January 2022 21: 18

I read this news - like a chronicle, and here is my opinion - I will not refer to hundreds of sources that have long been buried under tons of news. I can reproduce one nondescript line in my own words.
Protests began due to the fact that gas prices were raised - from 10 to 20 rubles per liter (we have 32). Maybe someone will correct the exact numbers.
Someone from the curators of the revolutions - said "come on" - and agitators and scoundrels were thrown out on the field at once - an ordinary peaceful demonstration at once turned into a political one.
But from a higher echelon, someone also could not resist - let's release the scumbags!
And as a result - the first day of the protests - everything goes according to the training manual - the protesters fraternize with the security forces, and they already agree with them, are ready to surrender or go over to the side of the protest - and immediately other people from the crowd begin to cut their heads or force these security officials to walk naked. among the hordes of raging marauders.
The criminals hurried, the people themselves got scared and fled, leaving instead of the crowd to set up - those who came to set up the crowd ... And you can shoot at them - they are aggressive and armed.
Fucked up, gentlemen from the CIA, hurry up.
Well, they all got a deadline - either in Ukraine or everywhere, for a couple of weeks - if Russia doesn't attack anyone, then what to do?
Sergey Ivanov_5

0

7 January 2022 21: 34

The author is clearly getting ahead of himself - one group in Kazakhstan has replaced another and the Americans have been slightly plunged into shit. So far, these are all changes.
aquarius580

0

7 January 2022 22: 55

The author, you still did not understand anything.
Who is the West's main enemy now? China, for the baranovirus launched on the planet. And the Nazarbayev clan was a Chinese bomb planted under Kazakhstan. Now this bomb has been eliminated and the CCP's "sphere of influence" has been narrowed. This is the main achievement of this special operation. China claims to world domination, RF - does not pretend. Therefore, Russian control (and it is also still in question) over Kazakhstan poses much less danger to the West (more precisely, it does not pose any danger at all).
boriz

+1

7 January 2022 23: 04

The United States does not really need a Kazakh Maidan. Now very important negotiations are underway to form a new world order. The United States is running out of time (this year midterm elections) and much depends on the coordination of the actions of the United States, China and Russia.
The only country concerned is the UK. There is no place for her among the leaders of the new zones. Therefore, the WB needs to somehow complicate and postpone these negotiations.
This is confirmed by the reaction of the West to events. The difference in reaction to belmaidan and kazmaidan. The reaction is completely different.
1. Pandiurin
  
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  8 January 2022 00: 47
  
  Quote: boriz
  The United States does not really need a Kazakh Maidan. Now very important negotiations are underway to form a new world order ...
  
  It depends on what Maidan, if that would have brought to power completely frostbitten Kazakhs, Natsiks. Those who are very hostile against Russia, that is, they are loyal to the West. (After leaving Afghanistan, the United States really wanted a base in Central Asia.)
  
  They just need such a successful Maidan and very much in the subject of negotiations.
  
  Figuratively speaking, Russia requested a zone of influence where the absence of NATO and other Western influence is required, i.e. under your control and, accordingly, responsibility. Here is the West for Russia, and made a mess in Kazakhstan, they wanted a zone of responsibility, so here you go, don't bother eating.
  
  Two options :
  1. If Russia copes, it proves that the demands on its zone of control are on the shoulder and we, in fact, already control it, it remains for the West to recognize this officially. It remains to negotiate specifying the nuances and bargaining how to officially recognize it.
  
  2. Maidan is going well, Kazakhstan is the second Ukraine. All Russia's demands are insignificant, the answer is that you asked for too heavy a burden that you are not able to carry, NATO around your borders to help control the space, which, as you see, you yourself cannot do.
  
  For Russia, they arranged a test by force in order to assess the possibilities, at the same time an attempt to strike a blow before the negotiations so that in case of success, to have an advantage.
  
  For the West, this is a loss, but on the other hand, it will be easier for them to figure out inside themselves, who is against these agreements and who is for, the latter now have an argument that look at Kazakhstan, in fact, the alignment is such that Russia is already successfully controlling Central Asia despite our actions. Let's face it to avoid all kinds of collisions and costs.
  
  The result of future negotiations is of course in question, this may only be the first stage, but Russia proved the validity of its demands, most likely a very painful result for the West (financially and politically).
  
  In Kazakhstan, problems may begin for American business, difficulties for NGOs (loss of influence), the cleansing of identified agents during the Maidan, a change in the general vector (It used to be: the west is a landmark, impeccable, prestigious; to the west it is suspicious and most likely a betrayal, it is shameful)
  1. boriz
    
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    8 January 2022 00: 53
    
    They just need such a successful Maidan and very much in the subject of negotiations.
    
    They don't need any. The most important thing for them is to complete the negotiations, not to disrupt interaction with the Russian Federation and China.
    They have already agreed on the main issues, the boundaries of the zones have been roughly defined. Kazakhstan is in the Russian zone. This is recognized and seen from the reaction of both the West and the CSTO countries. Nobody will get into someone else's zone. Provocations are possible only from the disenfranchised - WB. This is the last hysteria, after which the WB will forever be among the losers and with a high probability it will disintegrate. In fact, the decay has already begun.
    1. Pandiurin
      
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      8 January 2022 01: 25
      
      Quote: boriz
      They just need such a successful Maidan and very much in the subject of negotiations.
      
      They don't need any. The most important thing for them is to complete the negotiations, not to disrupt interaction with the Russian Federation and China.
      They have already agreed on the main issues, the boundaries of the zones have been roughly defined. Kazakhstan is in the Russian zone. This is recognized and seen from the reaction of both the West and the CSTO countries. Nobody will get into someone else's zone. Provocations are possible only from the disenfranchised - WB. This is the last hysteria, after which the WB will forever be among the losers and with a high probability it will disintegrate. In fact, the decay has already begun.
      
      Maybe Biden agrees, but he is not the whole West, if he went to agreements solely focusing only on his own senses without having clear justifications he would be mixed with dirt like Trump. Biden has plenty of enemies both in the United States and in the Western world.
      
      In the West, propaganda has long worked not only to denigrate Russia, but also to belittle its status. Doping scandals, the prohibition to fly the national flag, the country is a gas station, the economy is torn to shreds, well, the US Army (NATO) has no equal, of course.
      
      What negotiations can be on an equal footing, especially to fulfill the conditions put forward for the hegemon of the United States.
      In their understanding (of the West), Biden can negotiate with Russia only from a position of strength, rightfully strong and possessing moral (liberal outlook) superiority, i.e. they should dictate how Russia should behave correctly without making any concessions. Otherwise, it will be perceived as a betrayal of US interests by Biden. The result for Biden will be either impeachment or resignation for health reasons (the head does not cook).
      
      I can't believe that agreements will happen in January, most likely this is the first stage ...
      
      I agree with you that the United States does not have time and the issue must be resolved urgently. No matter how Biden has to hop on a passing train at all costs, only this tgv train, hermetically sealed, without protruding parts and a speed of 400 km / h.
      We understand that Biden is obliged to do this and he understands it. Only he is not Batman (he has no such support either in the world or in the USA).
      
      Let's see, the result should be known in January ...
  2. gunnerminer
    
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    8 January 2022 03: 06
    
    Why haven't we changed the vector of development at home, in the North Caucasus, in Dagestan, in Abkhazia, in South Ossetia? In the Far East and Eastern Siberia, in a peaceful environment, we cannot keep the population in place, and who will clean up the agents in the RK? The arrested corrupt KNBs?
    There has not yet been a combat check. The entry of units of the Russian Armed Forces has not been completed.
    1. DV tam 25
      
      +1
      
      8 January 2022 06: 11
      
      Drink glycine urgently and ... free ... in the pampas!
Vladest

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7 January 2022 23: 18

Another kettlebell on the legs of the Russian Federation for the United States is just GOOD for the United States. The more Russian soldiers are outside the Russian Federation, the more "warm feelings" the local population will accumulate towards Russia.
1. boriz
  
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  8 January 2022 00: 29
  
  Just do not persuade, we will not introduce soldiers to you. Even when NATO fades. You will rake it yourself.
  1. Vladest
    
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    8 January 2022 11: 46
    
    Quote: boriz
    Just do not persuade, we will not introduce soldiers to you. Even when NATO fades. You will rake it yourself.
    
    There's no point. There is no logic. One would ... You'd better write what I'm wrong, and not include a troll.
2. Monster_Fat
  
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  8 January 2022 04: 54
  
  Already. In our office, one from Kazakhstan works, he is from the junior Juza, so he is already grinding his teeth - Russians are killing his people, the invaders and all that ...
  1. DV tam 25
    
    +2
    
    8 January 2022 06: 12
    
    Well, send him back to the steppe ... let him die there.
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Pilot

+1

8 January 2022 02: 40

How did they know in Russia in advance that Kazakhstan should be bypassed by road and gas pipeline?
1. Sergey Kuznetsov_3
  
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  8 January 2022 22: 08
  
  So they knew for a long time, but for some reason they only threatened with a finger and publicly kissed.
2. F. Jaworski
  
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  8 January 2022 23: 58
  
  That's it ... It's not just that they decided to make such a detour and chose Mongols instead of Kazakhs. And it turned out very quickly with the dispatch of the military. And most importantly, not Russia alone, but a seemingly "living corpse", the CSTO. Obviously, they knew that in the kingdom of Nursultan the "morder" was gathering strength.
Ivan Vetrov

0

8 January 2022 05: 39

Well, finally, I'm very glad
Astronaut

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8 January 2022 08: 11

And the funniest thing in this story is that the reaction of the leaders of the collective west turned out only on the second day after the introduction of the CSTO troops))
1. Pandiurin
  
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  8 January 2022 09: 27
  
  Quote: Astronaut
  And the funniest thing in this story is that the reaction of the leaders of the collective west turned out only on the second day after the introduction of the CSTO troops))
  
  Estonians openly declared their confusion:
  - "How is that? Why so fast?" )
  1. gunnerminer
    
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    8 January 2022 10: 16
    
    Fighting the Airborne Forces is not with the Estonians.
2. F. Jaworski
  
  +1
  
  9 January 2022 00: 14
  
  And it seems to me that the West expected that Russia would not get involved in this meat grinder. Or, even worse, it will fit alone. In any case, we would look like rascals. And here, quickly, clearly, legally invulnerable, the CSTO troops. Here they are (western gaytsy) and go nuts from such a slap in the face. And the fact that in the Czech Republic with our first planes an article was published that Kazakhstan would become "Afghanistan for the Russians" indirectly proves what kind of reaction they expected from our side.
kriten

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8 January 2022 10: 24

It would be good if this situation served as a lesson for the Kremlin authorities that one should not close their eyes to daily betrayal and encouragement of Russophobia, which Nazarbayev was doing, I claim that he is an ally in words, and he himself conspired with Turkey and Britain with the United States. It is necessary to correct such fake allies, and even better learn to control their behavior. Otherwise, apart from stuffing their pockets and turning into super-rich beys, they see no other interests in the country.
Roman883

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8 January 2022 10: 53

They are simply drawn to the place where they are completely unnecessary, and this very fact is that the RF, Kazakhstan, Belarus and other states. there are such associations as the CSTO and they work and successfully create such a precedent that, purely theoretically, they will have to fight, in which case, not with one state and they will have problems not with one state, but with the entire bloc at once, a pretty good alternative to various Western blocs, including NATO ... Their policy - through such pseudo "revolutions" they slowly wanted to split off, here is Ukraine, for example, but here people have their own interests and conversations about some kind of check on the legality of the introduction of CSTO peacekeepers have absolutely no connection with the reality of what is happening. This is outside the legal field of the West and outside of influence, and the fact that there is such a CSTO is just good for us and for the states that are members of the CSTO!)
Evgenmy

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8 January 2022 13: 18

Thank you, it’s cool, well written. You can feel the academic, Soviet school.
The main reason for these events is still the clannishness of society.
Sergey Kuznetsov_3

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8 January 2022 22: 05

In principle, everything seems to be correct, but where did our rulers look when they even made "language patrols" in KZH last summer? Maybe they were specially waiting for the pogroms to begin? The infection needs to be crushed in the bud, and not advised on what to do. All the more so on our ay-ay-ay we (or rather not us, but our leadership, the people understood how it would end) "kuljutorno" sent to ....... (as you like to read) and answered that WE (KZH ) A sovereign country and don't fucking tell us. Here's how the "roast cock" pecked in the ass, immediately began to scream. I have no faith in all these Sovereign Republics. Everything will continue to continue not in one, so in another.
alex-sherbakov48

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9 January 2022 00: 10

The issue of creating a military-political bloc, instead of some formless structure of the CSTO, has long been ripe. This bloc will reduce the agility of NATO and the United States to destabilize the internal political situation in any country of the bloc! All these emissaries from the West and the United States will lose their relevance. This will lead to the isolation of our fifth column, which, we must honestly admit, has already unbelted itself to the extreme !!!