"With us or against us": Poles offered Russia a choice


Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki is known for his loud and unfriendly statements against Moscow. This time, the head of the Polish government, suffering from a lack of historical memory, in a peculiar way suggested that the Russian Federation make a civilizational choice, as reported in an interview with the newspaper La Repubblica (Italy).


Moravetsky said that Russia needs to decide whether it is with Europe or not, i.e. "With us or against us." He clarified that Europe does not want a conflict, but cannot afford to continue the energy "blackmail and pressure" from Russia, as well as attempts to split European unity.

Putin chooses conflict today. And this harms not only Europe, but also his own country. <…> Therefore, in the face of Putin's provocations, we must be united. The time for concessions is over. We must react toughly by imposing sanctions

- pointed out the Russophobe.

At the same time, he expressed gratitude to US President Joe Biden for a recent conversation with Russian leader Vladimir Putin. Moravetsky hopes that communication between the two leaders will lead to a decrease in the activity of the Russian Federation on the border with Ukraine and Europe as a whole.

But experience shows that Putin cannot be trusted and policy no concessions apply

- stressed the Pole.

These words were commented on in Russia. For example, a member of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation from the Primorsky Territory, Senator Andrei Klimov, called these words an ultimatum and a provocation. In addition, he recalled that Warsaw in the European Union itself is called Washington's puppet for trying to split the EU.

It was Warsaw that imposed the Eastern Partnership on the EU in 2008 to further split the post-Soviet space. This decision had far-reaching implications, including the events in Ukraine in 2014 and in Belarus in 2020.

- wrote Klimov in his Telegram channel.

The Russian believes that Moravetsky's statement "is designed for naive fools" and is aimed at increasing tensions in Europe. With the help of such provocations, the United States is trying to weaken both the EU countries and Russia in order to eliminate its competitors on the world stage.
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  1. BMP-2 Offline BMP-2
    BMP-2 (Vladimir V.) 12 December 2021 16: 33
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    And so it was all concessions! And I think, well, how is this hypocrisy called ?! laughing
  2. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 12 December 2021 17: 30
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    Someone read the application of the ancient Romans. They were the ones who beat those who were with them and against them. Bey were afraid of strangers.
  3. Pilot Offline Pilot
    Pilot (Pilot) 12 December 2021 17: 42
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    Moravetsky said that Russia needs to decide whether it is with Europe or not, i.e. "With us or against us." He clarified that Europe does not want a conflict, but cannot afford to continue the energy "blackmail and pressure" from Russia, as well as attempts to split European unity.

    And to fight with Russia is scary and yapping at Russia is necessary (the Americans pay for this) and what should you do? Dyuley is reluctant to rake and lose money too. A compromise is needed. But Poland is not the country with which Russia will look for him. What is the name of the state of the country, when it is scary and when the toad is strangling. Oh, yes, when it's cold, because they arranged it all themselves. Those. resentment is added. A little? So you can turn into Ukraine.
  4. Dan Offline Dan
    Dan (Daniel) 12 December 2021 17: 42
    +2
    Mr. Moravetsky is too petty nonentity to offer something to a country like Russia. Poland itself has spoiled the air in the EU and is afraid to admit it ... Throughout its history, it tried to show itself great, but in fact it always found itself with a broken nose and foul-smelling pants ...
  5. maiman61 Offline maiman61
    maiman61 (Yuri) 12 December 2021 17: 45
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    Poland is the enemy! And the sooner he dies, the better!
  6. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
    Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 12 December 2021 18: 00
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    This is what happens when the Poles have not dug up Kaczynski for a long time.
  7. viktortarianik Offline viktortarianik
    viktortarianik (Victor) 13 December 2021 15: 23
    +1
    Russia can put this question to Poland, but not Poland to Russia.
  8. gorskova.ir Offline gorskova.ir
    gorskova.ir (Irina Gorskova) 13 December 2021 18: 17
    +1
    Moravetsky would look at a normal geographic map. And still to figure out who there took the poses "interesting" in front of "uncles. I can say for sure NOT Russia. And this means not microns, indicate the real values.
  9. Serge KR Offline Serge KR
    Serge KR (Serge) 13 December 2021 19: 58
    +1
    The Poles, represented by their prime minister, are asking an inappropriate question. The Polish state and the majority of the Polish people have professed an irrational Russophobia that defies any explanation for almost the entire foreseeable history. And against this background, it is at least silly to ask such questions, especially because of Russia thanks to which Poland has a statehood and preserved its culture.
    1. Oder Offline Oder
      Oder (Wojciech) 14 December 2021 13: 34
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      Poland, like the Russians, has a strong culture, why do you think that thanks to you we have not lost it? A strong culture will defend itself, and if it is not, then it was not us. Also, why do you think that all Poles don't like Russians. This is not true, or maybe you should believe it?
      1. BMP-2 Offline BMP-2
        BMP-2 (Vladimir V.) 14 December 2021 16: 23
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        The strong will never blame the weak for their failures. And why is there such a belief that Russians do not like Poles :?)
        1. Oder Offline Oder
          Oder (Wojciech) 15 December 2021 15: 48
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          Where from?
          Most of the comments on this forum. Basically, all articles about Poland are negative. There is a lot of truth in them, but probably even more lies.
          1. Old Skeptic Offline Old Skeptic
            Old Skeptic (Old Skeptic) 18 December 2021 16: 11
            +1
            There is a lot of truth in them, but probably even more lies.

            Let's go without empty words. If you see a lie, you refute it (only with evidence and solid arguments).
      2. Serge KR Offline Serge KR
        Serge KR (Serge) 14 December 2021 17: 25
        +1
        I love Poland, I have many friends there. I lived there for a long time both in the NDP and in present-day Poland. I have no doubts about the greatness of Polish culture. And as for the fact that during the period of the partitions Russia SAVED this great culture (Polish), or at least made every effort for this, whoever, the Poles, needs to know this. In part of Poland, the Russian empire inherited the Polish language and Polish schools. There were no restrictions in the construction of churches and in the acceptance of Poles into the civil service. But in the German and Austrian part, we just observed all of the above prohibitions and direct Germanization. By the way, Poles for the most part ascribe all these prohibitions and restrictions to the tsarist government, Russia. Here is a kind of gratitude. I wrote MOST POLES and not ALL Poles (there is a significant difference) do not like Russia, which is not surprising given such agitation pressure on television and in the media in general.
        1. boriz Offline boriz
          boriz (boriz) 14 December 2021 18: 13
          +1
          In part of Poland, the inherited Russian Empire did not prohibit the Polish language or Polish schools. There were no restrictions in the construction of churches and in the acceptance of Poles into the civil service.

          Moreover, at first they retained many attributes of statehood, including their own. army.
          For which they had two massacres of Russians and, then, a whole gang of revolutionaries and terrorists. And then the universal forcible polonization of the Russian-speaking population, who found themselves on the territory of Poland since 1919. until 1939 .. And the destruction of 80 Red Army soldiers in concentration camps.
          And, with all the evidence, a rhetorical question comes to mind: maybe the Germans and Austrians were right?
      3. Old Skeptic Offline Old Skeptic
        Old Skeptic (Old Skeptic) 18 December 2021 16: 26
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        why do you think that all Poles do not like Russians

        I have a Polish wife. (It's true) She loves me very much, especially my brain, and I ostentatiously celebrate November 4 (expulsion of the Poles).

        What are you noisy about, folk-like?
        Why anathema threaten you Russia?
        What angered you? unrest in Lithuania?
        Leave: this is a dispute between the Slavs,
        Home, old dispute, weighted by fate,
        A question that you will not solve.

        For a long time among themselves
        These tribes are at war;
        More than once bowed under a thunderstorm
        Theirs, then our side.
        Who will stand in an unequal dispute:
        Puffy Lyakh, il true Ross?
        Will Slavic streams merge in the Russian sea?
  10. Vdars Offline Vdars
    Vdars (Victor) 14 December 2021 13: 44
    +1
    Who was the first to sign a treaty with Hitler in the world ?! Was it really not Poland ?!
  11. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 14 December 2021 18: 06
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    He clarified that Europe does not want a conflict, but cannot afford to continue the energy "blackmail and pressure" from Russia, as well as attempts to split European unity.

    Today I sniffed something especially heavy.
    The Poles themselves are successfully destroying the EU, not giving a damn about the common European "values." For which they have already begun to receive fines of 500 euros per day for coal mining at the mine in Turov. But they refused to pay them. Plus, the national legislation was declared higher than the international one, for which they would be trampled on from the EU.
    Is this Russia forcing them to do?
    And as for “with us or against us,” Poland should try, after all, to understand that if it again gets tangled in the legs of adult uncles, it can once again be erased from the map.