Ishchenko explained why Russia will inevitably include the LPNR in its composition

December 6 2021

There is no need for Russia to annex Donbass by military means, since sooner or later the question of the peaceful entry of these territories into the Russian Federation will arise. This point of view was expressed to the media by the Ukrainian political scientist Rostislav Ishchenko.

According to the expert, many Russian citizens also live in other countries, such as South Ossetia and Abkhazia, while the issue of joining these territories is not on the agenda. It's another matter if almost 100 percent of the population has Russian citizenship - in this case, the LPNR will inevitably become part of the Russian Federation. And this is where everything goes.

The departure of 2,5-3 million people now living in the DPR and LPR to Russia is strange. Sooner or later, the question of joining these territories will arise

- considers Ishchenko.

At the same time, many in the West are convinced of Russia's desire to force Ukraine to peace in Donbas by force of arms. Allegedly for this, Moscow is gathering combat units on the border with its eastern neighbor and machinery... Thus, the US intelligence services believe that the Russian Federation may attack Ukraine in January or February 2022.

Meanwhile, Russian officials have spoken out many times in favor of a peaceful resolution of the situation in eastern Ukraine, noting Russia's adherence to the Minsk agreements. Dmitry Peskov, the press secretary of the Russian president, has repeatedly said that Russia has never planned and is not planning an attack on other countries.

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Offline beeper

beeper 6 December 2021 19: 29

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I used to think Rostislav Ishchenko was a more or less realistic "political scientist in Ukraine", but now I don't think so.
Not to mention the fact that, in general, "with a pitchfork on the water writes (as if a schoolboy from the circle of" young friends of nature "made a weather forecast for the next year and five years ahead ) ", it is evident that Rostislav has already" matured in authority "and adapted to the RF -" understood the "post-Maidan" Kremlin trend ", how and what needs to be" wangled "in order to be" in demand "in the Russian media ...?!
* No, well, sometimes, for a dream coming, I like to listen to his "whites", a soooo calm, soporific-rustling voice, like a quiet forest stream murmuring .... my eyes close themselves, the smartphone then turns off without me.
Well, "under Ishchenko" falls asleep, even with "nerves raised during the day" I listen to it (our subconscious mind never sleeps, is always awake and works, controls the entire organism, the environment and, most importantly, maintains the connection of our Soul with the Universal Mind ...) already in deep sleep .... so whoever has insomnia, I recommend this method of mine!
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  gunnerminer (gunner miner) 6 December 2021 19: 41
  
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  Russia is closely linked with Ukraine. Many have relatives, friends, colleagues in the Soviet army there. The senseless extermination of people who look like you, speak the same language with you (or similar) will be perceived negatively in Russia. The pressure of sanctions will increase many times over. All this, together with increased military spending, will hit the pocket of a Russian citizen. Given the falling living standards over the past 10 years, this may forget about stability in domestic politics in Russia. Ukraine will become a bone in the throat that Putin cannot swallow. Putin does not even need the DPR and LPR as part of Russia. This is an extra headache. Otherwise, he would have appropriated these territories long ago.
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    beeper 6 December 2021 21: 29
    
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    Paul Roberts (right there - on the Reporter) clearly indicated that American analysts know how to correctly "read people" (by the way, I had no doubt about this, if they had become skilled for a long time, "reading Soviet leaders" even "from analyzes" obtained their spies from the Kremlin toilet).
    "Our Crimea" was a "blind corner" into which Washington drove the "sleeping waking" Kremlin "Olympians" - "tired rowers on the gallery", suddenly putting them before a "choice"!
    If then the Kremlin also profiled Crimea and Sevastopol, and there began the massacre of Russian residents and families of Russian sailors by gangs of local Turkomans and visiting banderonatsiks, and the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation would have kicked out "Get out!" I would have to do it from the "helm of the authorities", through "I do not want"!
    But our pro-socialist people's Russian Spring, which broke out on the wave of spontaneous anti-Maidan in historical Novorossia, was an unpleasant "surprise" for the Moscow bourgeoisie ... just look, our passionary anti-bourgeois-anti-privatizing socialist slogans and ideas would have raised "not the masses of Russian working people" too satisfied with the "ugly post-Soviet" capital life "?!
    That is why the bourgeois in Moscow indifferently watched as in Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Kherson, Odessa, Nikolaev and other cities of the South-East, the Banderlogists who seized power killed and maimed, threw Russian and pro-Russian Ukrainian citizens into zindans ...) ?!
    And then the "Russian partners" of the Banderohunty began, under the guise of "real gentlemen" (who "do not need someone else's ... weapons of their own kind" in abundance), hastily "return" combat-ready equipment and weapons of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Crimea to the Kiev maydauns, when saw that in Donbass the law enforcement agencies went over to the side of the people and did not participate in suppressing "dissidents", and ordinary people managed to organize themselves and arm themselves sufficiently to protect themselves from the "raids of friendship trains" ways ", the Kiev junta is unable to" counterproduce "these defending remnants of the Russian Spring ?!
    The pro-Russian "referendum" in the "self-proclaimed republics of Donbass" (as the LPNR was called in the Russian media until very recently!), The Russian president officially "asked not to hold it" and did NOT recognize it!
    But then the Kremlin was forced to support at least Donbass (all the rest of the unarmed "Novorossiysk" rebels by that time had been torn apart and suppressed by Kiev!).
    This step of the "Kremlin grandmasters" was clearly forced (but, all the same, unfading gratitude for everything, especially for the timely "East Wind"! And Russian volunteers !!! ), due to the outbreak of the anti-Bander-Nazi impulse of the majority of Russian society, on May 2, 2014, using the example of Odessa, he finally saw with his own eyes what, after their bloody "peremogy", they are doing with the peacefully pro-Russian pro-Russian fellow citizens in the South-East of the former Ukrainian SSR, who have brutalized pro-Western Banderonazis .. ...
    Hence such "different fates" of the inhabitants of "Krymnash" and the "self-proclaimed republics of Donbass" -LDPR (in which the "Alley of Angels" are becoming more and more extended and the cemeteries of those innocently killed by banderonazis are growing)!
    Now we are witnessing the unwinding of anti-Russian hysteria and the consolidation of NATO countries by the West for the next "Drang nach Osten (Westerners are sure that this time it will be crowned with success ?!)"!
    There is an obvious attempt by Washington and London in any way to "play off" Russia with the amero-marionette "Ukraine", so that later, in the New York UN, indiscriminately declaring the Russian Federation an "aggressor" (another "test tube with white powder" to pile on all in a crowd and tore apart on resource colonies - "dominions".
    The West already has the experience of the Maidan colonization of the post-Soviet republics with the help of purchased local compradors - Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova!
    Apparently, like Hitler's gang, the Fashington ones rely not only on the military-economic superiority of all the power of NATO and "donkeys with gold", but also on the internal political antagonism of the multinational working people and the nouveau riche power in the "feudal-bourgeois" RF ?!
    IMHO
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      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 6 December 2021 21: 43
      
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      It is obvious that Washington and London are trying in any way to "play off" Russia with the American-Marionette "Ukraine", so that later, in the New York UN, indiscriminately declaring the Russian Federation an "aggressor" (another "test tube with white powder" to pile on all in a crowd and tore apart on resource colonies - "dominions".
      
      According to this plan, the pro-American fifth column is working in both countries: Russia and Ukraine. By returning Crimea, the Kremlin raised the collapsed rating. Now, after 10 years of declining consumption levels and the failure of national projects, the rating is again close to zero. For 20 years, the Russians were not given anything of the kind, and they were not offered an ideological one, for which for a long time without weighing themselves to rush under a NATO tank with the last grenade without a fuse.
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        beeper 6 December 2021 22: 34
        
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        In a similar situation, from one's own helplessness to extinguish the growing discontent of working fellow citizens (with the ugly grimaces of "neo-capitalism with nouveau riche marmyz" - deprivation of former social benefits, a steady decline in living standards, unemployment and the incessant rivalry of the country with the ugly wealthy parasitizing helmsmen "with snickering servants), the then non-bourgeois rulers of the Ukrainians-Yanyk and his accomplice Azirov, contrary to the will and aspirations of the majority of Ukrainian citizens, secretly decided to" surrender the country to the EU "and proclaimed, began intensively, with all the power of the state machine of propaganda and agitation available to them, its anti-national-anti-state-anti-Russian pro-Western-fascinating-marionette "course towards an uncontested Euro-association" and NATO's MAP!
        As a result, it led to the Kiev "Euromaidan", a quarrel between groups of kleptoparasites-deribanists at the "helm of the authorities" - for its share of "cookies and jam" from the State Department and the EU, a bloody provocation "of the young Nazi wing (which agreed with Nuland in the" Fak EU "plan) “ukronuv the riches against” the old komrenegat wing (which relied on the EU and its initially promised 160 billion euros, before the "signing of the association" slyly sequestered up to only 16 billion euros, in tranches over five years, they began to bargain at their price for the sale of Ukraine into European slavery, although the "situation on the Judah market" was no longer in their favor, there were cheaper compradors in their place - Giblets and Rabbit!) "," dodging like a hare, to the Crimea and Russia, and the other rushed to his son in the Alps, and then, when it got hot with the arrivals of Interpol, he also rushed to Russia, and both these zapadoid, just like the Ukrainian officials in Crimea, changed their shoes in a jump, suddenly became so not "pro-Russian-pro-Russian" ...) hapless capricious "old people without alternatives" ...
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        War is always a lot of blood and human Suffering ... it would be better if it weren't!
  2. Offline Marzhecki
    
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 December 2021 08: 11
    
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    Ukrainians do not need to be exterminated. It is enough to drive out the pro-American pack and take control over the country, relying on people from the LPR as the administrative apparatus and the backbone of the reformed power structures. In order for the APU not to fight too fanatically, it is necessary to first propagandize them and outbid those officers that will work out.
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      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 7 December 2021 11: 36
      
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      It is enough to drive out the pro-American pack and take control over the country, relying on people from the LPR as the administrative apparatus and the backbone of the reformed power structures.
      
      This is exactly what Igorek Girkin Strelkov, the former head of the Security Service of the oligarch Light Malofeev, planned to do, but the population (along with local authorities and Cossack atamans) did not appreciate his plans.
      
      In order for the APU not to fight too fanatically, it is necessary to first propagandize them and outbid those officers that will work out.
      
      With the current Russian propaganda apparatus, it is unlikely. With Danya Milokhin, with Timothy, the new emerging symbol of the Armed Forces and other clowns, only homeless people can be promoted, and then for half a liter of cleansed.
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  Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 December 2021 08: 07
  
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  Yes, Ishchenko is still an "expert". Completes the agenda "sweet mriyas for the coming sleep" ...
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  Vladislav N. (Vlad) 7 December 2021 15: 28
  
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  I don’t remember for this little bitch from the time of the Russian Spring (2014) any predictions that came true at least partially.
  Balabol and yap.
Offline Siegfried

Siegfried (Gennady) 6 December 2021 23: 34

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to include in the composition what is now (or became in 2014) means not to include what could have been included. Now the choice is not easy - in cases of Ukrainian aggression and a Russian response to the western borders of Novorossiya, "nuclear sanctions", SWIFT, oil and gas exports, debt and much more will be imposed. The question is - if everything is so tough, how can Russia answer? What are the consequences of the ban on oil and gas exports to Europe and the United States? From the ban on the export of nuclear fuel, grains, fertilizers, titanium? Will the West be able to withstand such measures? What will happen to oil and gas prices? What will happen to Russian foreign currency reserves? What will happen in the Russian economy? It seems that Russia has not been loud enough to declare to the Western media that the threat of escalation in Donbas comes from Kiev. Russia does not want to recognize itself as a party to the conflict and, apparently, cannot directly declare that Russian troops near the Ukrainian borders are called upon to protect the residents of Donbas from the possible aggression of Kiev. That Kiev is planning to attack Donbas. Why is there no such data from Russian intelligence? That, according to Kiev, is planning an attack on Donbas in January-February, for example.
Russia does not need to invade further than the DPR and LPR in the event of an invasion by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. It is enough to quickly destroy parts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the territory of the DPR and LPR, stop selling electricity to Ukraine and wait for Ukraine to disintegrate.
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  gunnerminer (gunner miner) 7 December 2021 11: 40
  
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  From the ban on the export of nuclear fuel, grains, fertilizers, titanium?
  
  It is not critical for those consumers. Russian titanium is purchased because of the price. There are enough producers.
  
  That Kiev is planning to attack Donbas
  
  Such issues are not resolved in Kiev.
  
  Why is there no such data from Russian intelligence?
  
  And where was she, dear, was she before?
  
  It is enough to quickly destroy parts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the territory of the DPR and LPR, stop selling electricity to Ukraine and wait for Ukraine to disintegrate.
  
  How simple it turns out! It felt so easy on my heart!
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  Vladislav N. (Vlad) 7 December 2021 15: 30
  
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  stop selling electricity to Ukraine and wait for Ukraine to disintegrate.
  
  this should have been done in 14 year together with off. fash.mozhu supply of other nishtyakov ... HOWEVER, the loot won out common sense.