BI: Russia has already proved that it is ready by all means to prevent Ukraine from joining the West

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Moscow fears that Ukraine's accession to NATO will lead to the deployment of US and Alliance troops in close proximity to the European part of Russia. This affects the vital, strategic interests of the Russian Federation and the Russians will do everything necessary to prevent such a development of events, including direct military intervention, writes Sascha Glaeser, a columnist for Business Insider.


Since Moscow is already at war in the Donbass, Kiev's accession to NATO could lead to disaster. The Alliance's collective defense clause will require the United States and other allies to militaryly defend Ukraine

- notes the author.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has made it clear that Kiev's accession to NATO is the crossing of the "red line". Is US President Joe Biden ready to send Americans to die for Ukraine? It is obvious that Washington, while continuing to provide Kiev with quasi-security guarantees, is playing a dangerous game, fraught with a real war with a nuclear superpower. Moreover, US military aid and false hopes that NATO will defend Kiev only prolong the conflict in Donbas, increasing the risk of a direct clash between the United States and Russia. Thus, policy The White House is not only counterproductive, but dangerous for Americans.

Given the risk of nuclear escalation, the Biden administration must honestly assess whether starting World War III over a territory of little importance to US security

- emphasized the expert on international security and transatlantic relations.

Russia has already proved that it is ready by all means to prevent Ukraine from joining the West. Significant monetary and human costs will not be an obstacle to this. Moscow simply has nowhere else to retreat. Therefore, there is no need to drive her into a desperate situation. Moreover, unlike Russia, the United States simply does not have a sufficiently large interest in Ukraine, because of which it is worth risking so much.

Ending the conflict in Donbass will require a comprehensive political settlement that takes into account the geopolitical concerns of the Russian Federation. A peaceful solution to the conflict should lead to the restoration of the territorial sovereignty of Ukraine and the positioning of the Ukrainian state as a neutral buffer country, not connected with either Russia or the West. Neutral Ukraine will not seek to join NATO or the military structures of the Russian Federation and will not allow either side to deploy armed forces on its territory. This will enable Russia and the United States to build a stable and predictable relationship.
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  1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 November 2021 20: 27
    -14
    In the photo 45-year-old large landing ships. New UDCs were laid without a completed project, and without a specific type of power plant.

    Russia has already proved that it is ready by all means to prevent Ukraine from joining the West.

    It's too late to drink Borjomer. The loss of Ukraine is the biggest failure of the Russian Foreign Ministry since 1991.
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 29 November 2021 00: 50
      +3
      It's too late to drink Borjomer. The loss of Ukraine is the biggest failure of the Russian Foreign Ministry since 1991.

      After 1991, Russia and Ukraine are different states. You can’t lose what you don’t have. The fact that the prancing swineherds mutilated and ruined their own country is their problem.
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 29 November 2021 06: 06
        -10
        This is an indicator of the shortsightedness of the Soviet and Russian leadership. The Russian leadership was unable to offer its population for 30 years an attractive model of economic and social development, youth policy, ethnic policy. That repelled Ukrainians from Russia, and most importantly Ukrainian youth. She fled to Germany, to the Netherlands. , to Belgium, to Portugal, to Greece, to Poland, to Estonia, to Finland, to Norway. But not to Russia. Now, thanks to the failures of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Ukrainian territory is turning into a springboard for NATO, its special services, intelligence centers, bases. Such proximity to Russian defense and industrial centers drastically reduces NATO's need for medium-range missiles, strategic and long-range aviation. NATO received tens of thousands of cheap motivated natives for nothing, motivated by anti-Russian. The KChF lost the opportunity to repair its ships and vessels at the Nikolaev Association. The Russian Defense Ministry is forced to spend money on creating connection of light forces on the Sea of ​​Azov, hairstyle m on the most inconvenient shallow part, lacking adequate PMO and aviation.
        1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
          Bulanov (Vladimir) 29 November 2021 09: 13
          +2
          What repelled Ukrainians from Russia, and most importantly, Ukrainian youth. She fled to Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Portugal, Greece, Poland, Estonia, Finland, Norway. But not Russia.

          They run well to Russia too. This already happened several centuries ago on the territory of modern Ukraine - then this state was called Ruin.
          1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
            gunnerminer (gunner miner) 29 November 2021 11: 35
            -4
            The flow of conscription ages of Ukrainian ages to Russia has decreased. At the Potugalsky shoe factory, tying their shoelaces, or at the Hungarian bicycle factory, sweeping the shop, they can earn more.

            modern Ukraine - then this state was called Ruin.

            In the battle for this bridgehead, NATO is winning, but the Russian Foreign Ministry is losing. The post of ambassador to Ukraine was and is a place of exile for business executives and officials of the Russian government who failed in the case, and NATO sent the best provocateurs, intelligence officers, diplomats to Ukraine.
        2. avg Offline avg
          avg (Alexander) 29 November 2021 11: 08
          +1
          I understand that you don't care what to blurt out for propaganda purposes, but you need to understand at least a little about politics, economics, geography. In general, sit down. Two!
          1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
            gunnerminer (gunner miner) 29 November 2021 11: 37
            -4
            For the umpteenth time, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia receives a two with a Ukrainian ornament, and due to diplomatic failures, the Ministry of Defense has to pay for the transportation of equipment and people of Russian Railways, which are far from cheap.
        3. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 29 November 2021 20: 37
          +2
          This is an indicator of the shortsightedness of the Soviet and Russian leadership. The Russian leadership was unable to offer its population for 30 years an attractive model of economic and social development, youth policy, ethnic policy. That repelled Ukrainians from Russia, and most importantly Ukrainian youth. She fled to Germany, to the Netherlands. , to Belgium, to Portugal, to Greece, to Poland, to Estonia, to Finland, to Norway, but not to Russia.

          What about the foresight of the Ukrainian leadership? It suggested that people not flee the Ruins? And they run everywhere, including to us. Why should the Russian leadership offer something to the population of another country? What kind of position is this? Are you standing on panel and waiting for someone to offer more?
          If they like picking strawberries in Poland or taking out pots in Italy, this is their choice. Flag in hand, tailwind on the back, trident slightly lower.

          Now, thanks to the failures of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Ukrainian territory is turning into a springboard for NATO, its special services, intelligence centers and bases.

          It turns into a trash heap thanks to the efforts of the broad Svidomites. An exemplary pigsty.

          This proximity to Russian defense and industrial centers dramatically reduces NATO's need for medium-range missiles, strategic and long-range aviation. NATO received tens of thousands of motivated cheap natives for nothing, motivated by anti-Russian. forced to spend money on the creation of a combination of light forces in the Sea of ​​Azov, and on the most inconvenient shallow part, without having adequate PMO and aviation.

          You are crazy fool What need for medium-range missiles does it reduce? There are no missiles there. The Nikolaev plant is in ruins, what is there to repair? The shipbuilding industry in Crimea is developing and modernizing, it covers the needs for repairing the CH. What is it forced to create in the Sea of ​​Azov? Doesn't Russia have adequate air defense and aviation?
          You are the ballroom, my word of honor. fool Goodbye. Wasting time analyzing nonsense Svidomo tired.
          1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
            gunnerminer (gunner miner) 29 November 2021 21: 09
            -4
            The Ukrainian leadership is the same as the Russian leadership in relation to its population. And the economy is building a similar one. The Russian government still has natural resources. But this is not his merit, but his ancestors.
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 29 November 2021 23: 12
              +1
              The Ukrainian leadership is the same as the Russian leadership in relation to its population. And the economy is building a similar one.

              The outflow of population from Ukraine does not confirm your sick fantasies request
              Economic indicators by the way too yes

              The Russian still has natural resources, but this is not his merit, but of his ancestors.

              Do you want to say that Ukrainians were unlucky with their ancestors? Legendary proto-ukry turned out to be cowards and bums?
              1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                gunnerminer (gunner miner) 30 November 2021 00: 00
                -1
                Ukraine and Russia are unlucky with their rulers.
                1. 123 Offline 123
                  123 (123) 30 November 2021 02: 15
                  +1
                  Ukraine and Russia are unlucky with their rulers.

                  Especially for Svidomites, Russia is written with a letter and at the end.
                  Buff the torpedo admiral yes Heroic dung on bacon!
                  1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 30 November 2021 15: 26
                    -1
                    You have run out of arguments. You are picking fleas.
                2. DV tam 25 Offline DV tam 25
                  DV tam 25 (DV tam 25) 30 November 2021 05: 41
                  -1
                  What a deep analysis!) You would not be scribbling nonsense here, but doing your homework. Apparently, nothing good will come of you, it will not work.
                  1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 30 November 2021 15: 27
                    -1
                    You have not learned the lessons of the history of Ingushetia, the USSR, Russia since 2000.
                    1. DV tam 25 Offline DV tam 25
                      DV tam 25 (DV tam 25) 30 November 2021 15: 38
                      -1
                      I will answer approximately the same - you have not learned the lessons of the history of Ingushetia, the USSR, Russia since 2000. Moreover, you will not be able to assimilate them. The reason is obvious.
        4. YES UZH Offline YES UZH
          YES UZH (YES) 30 November 2021 06: 46
          -1
          Quote: gunnerminer
          This is an indicator of the shortsightedness of the Soviet and Russian leadership. The Russian leadership was unable to offer its population for 30 years an attractive model of economic and social development, youth policy, ethnic policy. That repelled Ukrainians from Russia, and most importantly Ukrainian youth. She fled to Germany, to the Netherlands. , to Belgium, to Portugal, to Greece, to Poland, to Estonia, to Finland, to Norway. But not to Russia. Now, thanks to the failures of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Ukrainian territory is turning into a springboard for NATO, its special services, intelligence centers, bases. Such proximity to Russian defense and industrial centers drastically reduces NATO's need for medium-range missiles, strategic and long-range aviation. NATO received tens of thousands of cheap motivated natives for nothing, motivated by anti-Russian. The KChF lost the opportunity to repair its ships and vessels at the Nikolaev Association. The Russian Defense Ministry is forced to spend money on creating connection of light forces on the Sea of ​​Azov, hairstyle m on the most inconvenient shallow part, lacking adequate PMO and aviation.

          You do not live in Russia, otherwise you would have noticed the sea of ​​Ukrainians around. Well, Ukraine has lost Russia. And time works for us, those who have the patience.
          1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
            gunnerminer (gunner miner) 30 November 2021 15: 26
            -1
            There was a sea until 2005, then it merged into the Federal Republic of Germany, Finland, and Poland.

            And time works for us, those who have the patience.

            To endure, not to think. For this, the authorities appreciate it. The Americans or the French would not tolerate even 5% of what they do with the Russians, especially with the military.
            1. DV tam 25 Offline DV tam 25
              DV tam 25 (DV tam 25) 30 November 2021 15: 39
              0
              Do you communicate a lot with Americans and French? Probably no. So why whine? Oh yes, you whine all the time).
              1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                gunnerminer (gunner miner) 30 November 2021 15: 53
                -1
                For months on TV, reports from the United States and France have been shown. And under the Soviets, in the countries of the Common Market, a 5% rise in prices provoked violent protests. Before each screening in cinemas, a newsreel Abroad was shown. Even in the year of the collapse of the USSR.
    2. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) 29 November 2021 08: 00
      +2
      It's never too late to correct your mistakes, but at the same time you need to learn from your mistakes and not allow them in the future.
  2. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 28 November 2021 23: 15
    +6
    Here Russia is in its own right. He can do whatever he wants in the area of ​​his interests.
    Whoever does not agree, let him go to smash the Australian embassy.
    In 2019, the government of the Solomon Islands said Taiwan to China.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/11/25/rioters-defy-curfew-in-solomon-islands-as-pm-faces-calls-to-quit

    The situation gradually escalated, local Maidan officials smash government buildings and Chinatowns.
    The day before yesterday, Australian troops were brought in there, and there is no howl of the world community about the bloody hand of Canberra and Ahressor strangling the young Solomon democracy. request
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-59412000
    Hto ride, then YOU are not a kangaroo.
    Each member of Solomon has a straw!
    Down with the Australian military, the employees go home.


    1. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 28 November 2021 23: 56
      -11
      Quote: 123
      Here Russia is in its own right. He can do whatever he wants in the area of ​​his interests.
      Whoever does not agree, let him go to smash the Australian embassy.

      The rights of Russia are only within the limits of its state border. And the comparison with Australia is incorrect - the Australians are not going to annex the Solomon Islands as the Russian Federation annexed the Crimea. hi
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 29 November 2021 00: 59
        +3
        The rights of Russia are only within the limits of its state border. And the comparison with Australia is incorrect - the Australians are not going to annex the Solomon Islands as the Russian Federation annexed the Crimea

        The essence of the claims is not clear request
        Firstly, if we are talking about Crimea, then we "quote the classics"

        The rights of Russia are only within the limits of its state border.

        And since the border runs along the outer perimeter of Crimea, this is it. yes
        Second, what does Crimea have to do with it? It's more about putting things in order in the wild field. If anything, the next jumps and tire smoke extinguishers are scheduled for December.
        The task of Russia is to prevent the escalation of the conflict, to prevent the appearance of destructive elements there. Gangs of nationalists or NATO units, which, however, are not very different.
        So it’s about a humanitarian mission. Hanging the Ruin around the neck of the Russian budget is hardly reasonable. hi
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 29 November 2021 06: 11
          -5
          Life in the villages of the LDNR is complete poverty, there is no medical care, no delivery of goods to the front-line villages, no subsidies, no coal for the miners' families for the winter. That is, for the villagers, returning to Ukraine is a return to normal life. Oligarch Malofeev lit a fire with the hands of Girkin Strelkov and threw it as it is. And the civilians of the LDNR have been suffering for more than 7 years. Russia does not recognize the LDNR as its territory, getting off with humanitarian aid. Now there is a real ghetto, with a steep salary of the militia in 17 thousand rubles with combat.
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 29 November 2021 20: 39
            +2
            Life in the villages of the LDNR is complete poverty, there is no medical care, no delivery of goods to the front-line villages, no subsidies, no coal for the miners' families for the winter.

            Collect dung for the winter winked
      2. silver169 Offline silver169
        silver169 (Aristarkh Feliksovich) 29 November 2021 07: 28
        +5
        Russia did not annex, but returned the Russian Crimea - its territory, as sooner or later it will return the whole of Novorossia. This would have happened long ago if it were not for the cowardly "cat Leopold" sitting in the Kremlin.
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 29 November 2021 11: 39
          -8
          You independently elect him for all terms. Without pressure from the Ukrainian government. Zelenskiy was dropped by parachute from a US Air Force plane.
          1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
            Alexndr p (Alexander) 30 November 2021 14: 27
            -1
            You independently elect him for all terms.

            and once again I will choose what would screw up) and Russia continued to send new modules to the ISS and purchase planes
            1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
              gunnerminer (gunner miner) 30 November 2021 15: 14
              -2
              Russia new modules on the ISS

              This is not enough. It is required that the modules are serviceable, and not rotate 360. Frightening the crew. At 19:45 after the docking of Nauka with the Zvezda module of the ISS, cosmonauts Oleg Novitsky and Petr Dubrov began to open the inner hatch of the Zvezda At this moment, the engines of "Science" spontaneously turned on.
              The station began to rotate randomly, this led to a change in its position in space by 45 degrees. To compensate for the rotation and stabilize the ISS, first the engines of the Zvezda and then the Progress truck had to be launched. How many years has Science been lying on Earth and waiting in the wings! And not in vain! 10-15-20 years? two ends.
              1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
                Alexndr p (Alexander) 30 November 2021 15: 18
                -1
                you are so loudly and powerfully defeating the system in Russia, do you have such efficiency in all your affairs? wassat
                You are not one of these ..? From the outskirts of the saddened) Did you manage to move from the agrarian state?)

                Do you know at least whose Crimea?

                PS your patient moans are my symphony. I've been listening for 20+ years. It's good that you are made of a different material than Colonel Kvachkov. We need this kind of opposition

                Simply the best. Reference. And the groans are so sonorous that you can even be an apprentice with a steelmaker - and this still needs to be earned by your patience for the damned Putinsky regime

                How do you like visiting Muscovites in general?) Do you hold the front?)
                1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer (gunner miner) 30 November 2021 15: 34
                  -1
                  Do you know at least whose Crimea?

                  Russian. Whether you, a resident of Kherson, do not know.
                  1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
                    Alexndr p (Alexander) 30 November 2021 15: 37
                    -1
                    wassat I'm from vzhmerinka

                    funny) Are you ready to continue to endure Putin?) And if you are ready - then how many more years? You yourself are not overwhelmed by the power of your patience?)

                    You are as powerful and cool as the Ukrainians. You can immediately see the non-worker. How long ago did you start to conduct a battle with the regime?

                    Your dull struggle makes my confidence in tomorrow's bright day even more powerful
                    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 30 November 2021 15: 50
                      -1
                      Whose Crimea? laughing Remind me?
                      1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
                        Alexndr p (Alexander) 30 November 2021 15: 52
                        -1
                        Russian. Russian. Our. Russia is the greatest country. It is just as great - how insignificant and dirty and weak is the opposition within it. It was always surprising how in such a beautiful country there can be such filth in the opposition. What pit did they get you out of?

                        laughing
                      2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 30 November 2021 15: 57
                        -1
                        Russian. Russian. Our. Russia is the greatest country.

                        True, if the bespectacled magpies weren't piled high, they would have landed on Mars long ago, got off the oil needle, stopped eating Turkish-Azerbaijani plastic vegetables, drinking Ukrainian milk shmurdyak. They would have taken Kiev, Warsaw, Nursultan.
                      3. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
                        Alexndr p (Alexander) 30 November 2021 16: 19
                        -1
                        If only the bespectacled sorosets are not piled up

                        Come on, dirt doesn't affect anything) she can only whine on the forums

                        You understand your own and dull brothers-in-arms of your efficiency) Can't it be that it would not have reached you in 20+ years?
                      4. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 30 November 2021 17: 00
                        -2
                        Putin overcame everyone and will sit on the throne for a thousand years, until the final zugunder of Russia, and the titular nation.
                      5. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
                        Alexndr p (Alexander) 30 November 2021 17: 00
                        -1
                        Putin overcame everyone and will sit on the throne for a thousand years.

                        of course, because in opposition you and your ilk wassat weak and patient
                        the quality of the material is yours

                        don't jump higher than yourself

                        Until the final zugunder of Russia, and the titular nation.

                        the wet dreams of the ghus opposition. Liquid)
                      6. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 30 November 2021 17: 15
                        -1
                        Other nations are to blame for the backward economy.
                      7. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
                        Alexndr p (Alexander) 30 November 2021 17: 17
                        -1
                        Other nations are to blame for the backward economy.

                        go by, Vasya) but bear with me, do not let me down.
                      8. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 30 November 2021 18: 25
                        -2
                        Keep looking for the culprit.
                      9. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
                        Alexndr p (Alexander) 30 November 2021 18: 28
                        -1
                        keep on enduring wassat you learned great
  • sgrabik Offline sgrabik
    sgrabik (Sergei) 29 November 2021 08: 04
    +3
    This is not a correct comparison, and no one has canceled Russia's geo-political interests yet, and no one has the right to cancel them, while indicating what and how Russia should do.
  • gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 29 November 2021 07: 00
    -8
    Russia's right is not backed up by a resource-based economy and a decrepit Armed Forces.
    1. Vladimir501 Offline Vladimir501
      Vladimir501 (Vladimir) 29 November 2021 16: 53
      0
      And what are your rights supported by? No economy and no armed forces, not even decrepit, but already lying in intensive care in a coma for a long time?
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 29 November 2021 17: 45
        -5
        Who is yours? I live in Russia.
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 29 November 2021 20: 42
          +3
          Who is yours? I live in Russia.

          This is amazing. Would go to (on) "to normal life." Why are you vegetating in dreams here?
  • Sergey Zemskov Offline Sergey Zemskov
    Sergey Zemskov (Sergei) 29 November 2021 00: 33
    -7
    And what was the department of Mr. Lavrov doing in 2013-2014, when Ukraine rushed to float freely?
    And what are the ambitions to establish order in an independent country? Why is Moscow satisfied with the presence of Turkish troops in Azerbaijan (NATO, by the way), while NATO in Ukraine is so exciting?
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 29 November 2021 06: 13
      -7
      Lavrov also created a Russian-Turkish observation center and made it easier for the Turkish military intelligence to control its South. Tsarist, Soviet diplomats and generals would swell from such a surprise and over-tolerance.
  • Victor Shikhovtsev Offline Victor Shikhovtsev
    Victor Shikhovtsev (Viktor Shikhovtsev) 29 November 2021 09: 44
    -3
    I don’t know what Putin has proved to whom. In my opinion, he’s in the bunker, sniffing the vaccine, lying unconscious. For in the minds of doing what is happening with the country is a crime of the highest order.
    1. YES UZH Offline YES UZH
      YES UZH (YES) 30 November 2021 06: 28
      +1
      You messed with the cocaine pianist
  • YES UZH Offline YES UZH
    YES UZH (YES) 30 November 2021 06: 26
    +1
    Even kim is afraid of the exceptional
  • YES UZH Offline YES UZH
    YES UZH (YES) 30 November 2021 06: 37
    +1
    Quote: Bindyuzhnik
    Quote: 123
    Here Russia is in its own right. He can do whatever he wants in the area of ​​his interests.
    Whoever does not agree, let him go to smash the Australian embassy.

    The rights of Russia are only within the limits of its state border. And the comparison with Australia is incorrect - the Australians are not going to annex the Solomon Islands as the Russian Federation annexed the Crimea. hi

    Or how Izratl takes over the Palestinian territories and the Syrian Gollans
  • Sofa division Offline Sofa division
    Sofa division (Maksim) 30 November 2021 11: 56
    0
    Quote: gunnerminer
    In the battle for this bridgehead, NATO wins, and the Russian Foreign Ministry loses

    If the Russian Foreign Ministry had single-handedly defeated NATO, it would have been too much even for Lavrov.
  • Sofa division Offline Sofa division
    Sofa division (Maksim) 30 November 2021 11: 59
    +1
    Quote: Bindyuzhnik
    The rights of Russia only within the limits of its state border

    Russia has no borders. Russia has only a horizon.