Switzerland disclosed plans to acquire Patriot air defense systems and F-35 fighters


The Federal Office for Defense Procurement (Armasuisse) of the Swiss Confederation has published many interesting details (details of contracts), revealing plans to purchase 36 F-35A fighters and 5 Patriot air defense systems from the United States, writes aviacionline.com.


The contracts (Letters of Acceptance, LOA) are now unilaterally signed by the United States. In 2022, the Swiss parliament is due to approve the spending. If this is done, Switzerland will sign the LOA, after which the contracts will take effect. Payment plans have been calculated based on inflation forecasts at an exchange rate of CHF 0,95 per US dollar

- explained in the publication.

Until 2031, the Swiss budget for the purchase of 36 units of the F-35A will cost $ 6,352 billion, which is below forecasts. Of this money, the planes themselves will cost $ 4,029 billion, $ 2,028 will be spent on logistics, spare parts, documentation, training and technical manufacturer support, $ 112 million for ammunition, $ 86 million for any technical risk, $ 90 million for the training systems themselves, and mission planning and evaluation.


The acquisition of the Patriot air defense system is estimated at $ 2,091 billion. The purchase includes: 5 AN / MPQ-65 radars, 5 AN / MSQ-132 command posts, 17 M903 launchers, 70 Patriot MIM-104E guided missiles, 6 multifunctional information distribution systems (MIDS -LVT), 5 power supplies. The package includes maintenance, repair, logistics and personnel training.

As a result of the two acquisitions, offset deals will amount to $ 4,421 billion. The aircraft manufacturer, Lockheed Martin, accounts for $ 3,052 billion, with $ 1,052 billion attributable to direct compensation, i.e. orders of a foreign manufacturer to Swiss companies in connection with the acquisition of the F-35A. The manufacturer of the air defense system, Raytheon, accounts for $ 1,368 billion in compensation transactions, of which $ 273 million are direct compensation. Compensation obligations must be fulfilled no later than 4 years after final delivery. The compensation does not apply to VAT, risk premiums and direct orders from the federal government to Swiss companies.

Most of this data is usually kept secret in other countries, but the transparency of the Swiss government allows us to assess the composition of this type of defense contracts and, in particular, the current sales value of the Lockheed Martin F-35A.

- summed up the media.
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  1. Binder Offline Binder
    Binder (Miron) 27 November 2021 18: 38
    -1
    The Swiss are rich buratins and want to buy the best for themselves, loved ones. Well, in fact, they will not acquire the Su-57 and the S-300 air defense system. lol
    1. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
      Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 27 November 2021 19: 27
      +1
      The Swiss are rich buratins and want to buy the best for themselves, loved ones. Well, in fact, they will not acquire the Su-57 and the S-300 air defense system.

      Bindyuzhnik, your anger and envy of Russia, the Russians, the best Russian military equipment, goes over the edge and is visible even to the naked eye. That is why you, a typical representative of a nation of traders and speculators, constantly sit on this site and send everything here with your Russophobic poison Breathe deeply, envy in silence bully
    2. Sergeyjluf Offline Sergeyjluf
      Sergeyjluf (Sergei) 27 November 2021 20: 48
      +2
      The American Patriot air defense systems were unable to repel the drone attack in Saudi Arabia due to the inconsistency of their capabilities with the declared characteristics. It's 2019!
      https://topwar.ru/162641-v-minoborony-rf-objasnili-proval-kompleksov-patriot-v-saudovskoj-aravii.html
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 November 2021 20: 54
        -6
        The Syrian and Russian air defense systems never once in 7 years repelled the attacks of the Hel Havir crews. The Syrians managed to shoot down the Il-20M partners. Due to the fact that the Khmeimimites did not dare to exchange codes "their stranger."
        1. Sergeyjluf Offline Sergeyjluf
          Sergeyjluf (Sergei) 27 November 2021 21: 01
          +2
          Are we in the phase of the war with Israel? Ask Miron!
          1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
            gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 November 2021 21: 41
            -6
            The Khmeimimskys have placed air defense missile systems and electronic warfare calculations for furniture. In addition, the Hel Hawir crews destroy Syrian and Iranian objects, military personnel. Are the Russians not partners for the Iranians and Syrians?
          2. Binder Offline Binder
            Binder (Miron) 27 November 2021 22: 47
            -3
            The Russian Federation is really not at war with Israel. However, do not forget that in the period 60-80. of the last century, the USSR and Israel were also not at war, which did not prevent Soviet servicemen from directly participating in battles on the side of their Arab friends. Times are different today - Israel has become much stronger since then, and Russia today is far from the former Soviet power. And if even then the Israelis knew how to defeat the Soviet "instructors", then today they would have successfully coped with Russian opposition. Therefore, there is a correct, respectful relationship. Respect everywhere and always those who are strong and can stand up for themselves, and the Israelis have repeatedly demonstrated their capabilities in practice.
            1. Old Skeptic Offline Old Skeptic
              Old Skeptic (Old Skeptic) 27 November 2021 23: 47
              +1
              Amused wink
              Great warriors of Israel, straight - uh angry - top leg.
              And they all fled.
              What a fine fellow! All were defeated. wink
              1. Binder Offline Binder
                Binder (Miron) 28 November 2021 06: 04
                -3
                No, well, where are our Russian soldiers who bravely defeated such a formidable enemy as Georgia! smile
                1. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
                  Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 28 November 2021 06: 27
                  +2
                  No, well, where are our Russian soldiers who bravely defeated such a formidable enemy as Georgia!

                  Since it so happened that the Georgians trained by the Americans, equipped and armed with the latest technology of the NATO type, raced in a race against the "backward and wretched" army of the Russian Federation, whose commanders at that time had to coordinate their actions on mobile phones? Where are the vaunted high-tech and all-conquering NATO technologies ?There's an answer?
                  1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 November 2021 14: 10
                    -3
                    Только автоматная очередь смертельно раненого майора Ветчинова спасла командующего 58й армией и его штаб от позора плена.Благодаря грузинам открылись глаза Российского правительства на катастрофическое положение дел в Российских вооруженных силах.И НГШ Макаров кинулся понукаемый Табуреткиным кромсать реформами оставшееся от 90-х.
                2. Old Skeptic Offline Old Skeptic
                  Old Skeptic (Old Skeptic) 29 November 2021 00: 33
                  +3
                  Two thousand years of you ............. all and sundry, and you heroically grew stronger. wink
            2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
              gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 November 2021 00: 01
              -4
              This is understandable. As soon as the Syrian crews begin to use ammunition against the Hel Hawir aircraft, and not only against guided munitions, all air defense on Syrian territory will come to an end. appeared after June 1982, after Operation Medvedka. The calculations of the Syrian air defense systems were manned by Soviet servicemen, not only sub-Soviet Syrian servicemen. You can read the letter of the chief adviser Colonel-General Maslov to the Minister of Defense of the USSR D. Ustinov. The real lament of Yaroslavna. About the backlog in the means of electronic warfare, in the UAV , in aviation and how much.
              1. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
                Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 28 November 2021 02: 20
                +2
                None of this will happen, because the consequences for the Jews will be very deplorable, and they will not deal with "secret advisers", but with the regular army of the RF Armed Forces, with all its branches and types of troops. This will be a war that Israel will never win. ... Bombing war-torn Syria, destroying individual detachments of the IRGC, which is under the most severe sanctions of Iran, threatening Palestinians armed with sticks and stones with machine guns, this is all that a nation of traders and speculators is capable of today, and one should not exaggerate its capabilities
                1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 November 2021 13: 58
                  -3
                  and with the regular army of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, with all its branches and types of troops. This will be a war that Israel will never win.

                  To our calves and a wolf to gore. The Soviet army could not destroy Israel together with the Arab companions. And the Russian army, cut down significantly by continuous reforms, will not be able to. Moreover, the Russian Navy is deprived of an auxiliary fleet, PMTB in Mediterranean, nuclear submarines in Mediterranean, in The Persian Gulf, in the Red Sea, is deprived of all types of aviation. In a recent exercise, the NGSh of the Russian Armed Forces was able to squeeze out only three serviceable old Tu-22M3s.
                  1. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
                    Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 28 November 2021 16: 09
                    +1
                    To our calves and a wolf to gore. The Soviet army could not destroy Israel together with the Arab companions

                    If the Soviet army decided to destroy Israel, it would have done it without any particular problems. Another thing is that such a task was not set, so the USSR used a limited contingent of advisers, not turning on its military machine at full power, there is no point in commenting on the rest of your nonsense. I repeat once again, this was a proxy war, in direct Israel they would simply dare, both then and now
                    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 November 2021 16: 36
                      -4
                      Another thing is that this was not a task, so the USSR used a limited contingent of advisers, not turning on its military machine at full power,

                      Air defense personnel were sent to Egypt and the SAR in whole squadrons, including conscripts and pilots in whole squadrons.

                      Israel would just be dared, both then and now

                      Protect at least the civilian LDNR, under your very nose.
                      1. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
                        Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 28 November 2021 17: 00
                        +1
                        Protect at least the civilian LDNR, under your nose

                        Defend, the LDNR corps is already de jure, the Russian army, it's up to the recognition and supply of weapons to them
                      2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 November 2021 17: 21
                        -3
                        Not deyure, not de facto, the LDNR detachments are not the Russian army. There is nothing in the Russian governing documents and regulations on this matter. Moreover, the territory of the LPNR is recognized by the Russian Foreign Ministry as Ukrainian. Do not protect, just chat. Hundreds of thousands of evaders from the troubles of conscript service in Russia. seven years of chatter and lies.
            3. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
              Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 28 November 2021 03: 33
              +1
              As soon as the Syrian crews begin to use ammunition against the aircraft of Hel Hawir, and not only against guided munitions, all air defense on Syrian territory will come to an end, and Russian too.

              None of this will happen, because this is no longer an indirect war between Israel and Russia, but quite specific, and Israel will never win this war. pevoshnikov, I advise you to read this-Operation Caucasus. "About how the Russians covered the Egyptian sky."

              https://vpk.name/news/366539_o_tom_kak_russkie_prikryli_egipetskoe_nebo.html
              1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 November 2021 14: 01
                -4
                When we were analyzing the death of the Il-20M crew, we found out that the S-400 air defense missile systems could not detect the approach of the Hel Hawir units, and watched the congestion of civilian aircraft over Larnaca. We got entangled in the wilds of the situation. And this is in simple conditions. With the weak use of the IDF electronic warfare means ...
                1. smart fellow Offline smart fellow
                  smart fellow (smart fellow) 29 November 2021 04: 47
                  0
                  Israeli spies in the Russian command reported?
                  1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 29 November 2021 06: 14
                    -2
                    Russian media, journalists, press service of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Al Jazeera channel, BBC.
            4. Binder Offline Binder
              Binder (Miron) 28 November 2021 06: 02
              -4
              It's like that. Precisely because the leadership of the Russian Federation understands this, the Russian contingent in Syria is behaving extremely restrainedly towards the Israelis. Somewhat dissonant is the thoroughly false statements of the land rear admiral about the alleged successes of the Syrian air defense, which allegedly manages to shoot down almost all missiles in every Israeli attack, but these statements are intended exclusively for internal Russian use, although most Russians do not take them seriously. In fact, the Syrians tend to react late to Israeli attacks and shoot down the Russian Il-20 as a pretty penny.
              1. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
                Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 28 November 2021 06: 57
                +1
                Some dissonance sounds through the false statements of the land rear admiral about the alleged successes of the Syrian air defense, which allegedly manages to shoot down almost all the missiles in every Israeli attack.

                Well, refute, give convincing arguments that this information does not correspond to reality, otherwise your statements are no different from the "utterly false" statements of this Rear Admiral
                1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 November 2021 14: 03
                  -3
                  Read the news from that period. Hel Hawir's raids have only become more frequent, they have become round-the-clock.
              2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 November 2021 14: 02
                -3
                If the admiral dared to express his personal opinion, he would have been sent to Russia, he would have found himself in civilian life with vague prospects.
      2. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 27 November 2021 23: 54
        0
        The Syrian and Russian air defense systems have never repelled attacks from the Hel Hawir crews in 7 years.

        A greasy gunman will not deign to report the number and time of attacks?
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 November 2021 00: 04
          -6
          Read the news from the Syrian bridgehead from 2010 to the present. Especially for you, I did not collect, and did not save up. Watch the TV reports of Channel One for the same period, do not neglect conversations with the military. They will tell you more. The attacks and strikes were massive, weekly day and night. Crews of the F-35I made raids during daylight hours, on objects in the depths of the Syrian bridgehead. By the way, so as not to get up twice.
          their serial production. NGSH and MO have objectively assessed the condition and quality of the "new" avionics Su-57.
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 28 November 2021 00: 26
            +1
            Read the news from the Syrian bridgehead from 2010 to the present. Especially for you, I did not collect, and did not save up. Watch the TV reports of Channel One for the same period, do not neglect conversations with the military. They will tell you more. The attacks and strikes were massive, weekly , sometimes daily. Day and night. Crews of the F-35I made raids in the daytime, on objects in the depths of the Syrian bridgehead

            In other words, there are no examples. request

            By the way, so as not to get up twice.

            Allow me not to get up at all, stand as you are used to.

            It was after a business trip of a pair of Su-57s to the former SAR that a plan began to pour in
            their serial production. NGSH and MO have objectively assessed the condition and quality of the "new" avionics Su-57.

            Did the cockroaches whisper it in your ear?
            1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
              gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 November 2021 14: 04
              -5
              Nobody signed up especially for you to collect facts and form a news line.
              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 28 November 2021 18: 31
                +1
                Nobody signed up especially for you to collect facts and form a news line.

                Well, yes, facts are the lot of the gray mass, creative people like you do not limit the flight of imagination to such trifles.
      3. Mantrid Machina Offline Mantrid Machina
        Mantrid Machina (Mantrid Machina) 28 November 2021 02: 51
        0
        They were simply not allowed to bring down the Jews because Bibi was constantly sweating to Moscow to Wolland.
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 November 2021 14: 17
          -4
          On the other hand, the Turks do not hesitate to shoot down the aircraft and helicopters of the Russian Air Force. They have already shot down the crew of the Mi-24 in Karabakh.
  • 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 27 November 2021 23: 49
    +1
    The Swiss are not stupid people, they know what their neighbors are. It's hard in Europe without a revolver.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 November 2021 00: 15
      -4
      At the same time, lick the USA so that they do not poke around in other people's bank accounts.
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 28 November 2021 00: 28
        +1
        At the same time, lick the USA so that they do not poke around in other people's bank accounts.

        I don’t presume to argue with a professional. You are a recognized authority in this field hi
    2. Mantrid Machina Offline Mantrid Machina
      Mantrid Machina (Mantrid Machina) 28 November 2021 18: 32
      0
      Those in your opinion Switzerland has written down as enemies of its neighbors: Germany, France, Austria and Italy
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 28 November 2021 18: 36
        0
        Those in your opinion Switzerland has written down as enemies of its neighbors: Germany, France, Austria and Italy

        Do you think they are preparing for the Chinese invasion?
        1. Mantrid Machina Offline Mantrid Machina
          Mantrid Machina (Mantrid Machina) 28 November 2021 21: 17
          0
          Don't drive nonsense - of course, they go to Germany on weekends to buy food, deliberately go to the enemies, deliberately pumping up the economy of the enemies with dough wassat
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 28 November 2021 22: 32
            0
            Don't drive nonsense - of course, they go to Germany on weekends to buy food, deliberately go to the enemies, deliberately pumping up the economy of the enemies with dough

            And our trade is going well in Ukraine laughing About 10 years ago, if someone had been told about the current realities, they would probably have been mistaken for a madman.

            Joking aside, why does a neutral state in the center of Europe need so many weapons? If not the Chinese, then meet us the Horde? So, it seems that Suvorov was not noticed in the genocide there, and since then there have been no liberation campaigns and are not planned request This is what a circle with a radius of about 1000 thousand km looks like. Application beyond its limits is probably unlikely. No other goals are foreseen. Today there are friends and good neighbors around, and tomorrow who knows how life will turn out. The Swiss are pragmatic people and probably act wisely.

  • Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 28 November 2021 01: 22
    -2
    Quote: 123
    The Syrian and Russian air defense systems have never repelled attacks from the Hel Hawir crews in 7 years.

    A greasy gunman will not deign to report the number and time of attacks?

    - To the fig and even more:
    https://www.newsru.co.il/mideast/17nov2021/syria_il_101.html
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 28 November 2021 18: 42
      +1
      - To the fig and even more:

      Thank you for your detailed, comprehensive answer. hi laughing
  • Mantrid Machina Offline Mantrid Machina
    Mantrid Machina (Mantrid Machina) 28 November 2021 02: 55
    +1
    Hehe, "neutral" Switzerland, until the last day of the war, supplied the Wehrmacht with four-barreled Oerlikon and at the same time buying gold from the teeth of the gassed Jews in the CC wassat
  • Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
    Observer2014 28 November 2021 08: 57
    -1
    Switzerland disclosed plans to acquire Patriot air defense systems and F-35 fighters

    The Swiss have so much money that they can even buy a fleet from SSBNs in their own interests, and with a lifetime lease of a port wherever they want. lol
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 November 2021 14: 06
      -5
      The Russian government does not have that amount of funds. Uzbekistan is already ahead of Russia in terms of development. The Uzbek population has doubled since 1991, and the Russian one is decreasing by 2 million a year.
      1. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
        Observer2014 28 November 2021 14: 09
        +1
        The Russian government does not have that amount of funds. Uzbekistan is already ahead of Russia in terms of development. The Uzbek population has doubled since 1991, and the Russian one is decreasing by 2 million a year.

        And in this article, if you have read its name, we are not Uzbekistan or Russia, and we are not even discussing Ukraine. We are talking about Swiss plans to purchase new weapons for them.
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 November 2021 14: 15
          -3
          I compare Switzerland, which does not have endless taiga, coal and gold mines, oceans of oil and gas, with Russia.
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 28 November 2021 18: 51
            +2
            I compare Switzerland, which does not have endless taiga, coal and gold mines, oceans of oil and gas, with Russia.

            Oh yes Ukraine is not Switzerland No. Rather Somalia.
            1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
              gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 November 2021 19: 14
              -3
              You put your trust in Ukraine, equate Russia with it. The Ukrainian garbage can. It should be compared with Uzbekistan, which has doubled its population since 1991. It has increased the pace of its development in comparison with Kazakhstan. Russia has been marking time for 25 years, the population is shrinking. Without a successful developing economy, there will be no modern army. Without the development of the Far East, too. Ukraine and what is happening in Its territory is just a cover for Putin's failures. The State Department has achieved the transformation of Ukraine into a hostile state, withdrew it from the CIS under Putin's nose.
              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 28 November 2021 19: 48
                +1
                You put your trust in Ukraine, equate Russia with it

                I equate her with Switzerland. So much in common. A non-aligned state that does not have endless forests, coal and gold mines, oceans of oil and gas. The forest was cut out, the gas was pumped out, coal remained on Dobassa. Probably soon everything will be like in Switzerland.

                It is necessary to compare with Uzbekistan, which has doubled its population since 1991. It has increased the pace of its development in comparison with Kazakhstan.

                Going to learn what to compare with? Has Switzerland's population doubled since 1991? Or Germany? It makes no difference to you, if only there were more numbers in comparison somewhere?
                And yes, Uzbek citizens, they have spawned, live at home, raise and improve your own country. What for me to compare them with Kazakhstan? let them compare there themselves.

                Russia has been marking time for 25 years, the population is shrinking.

                Russia is not marking time, it lives here. But you can go ...

                Without a successful developing economy, there will be a modern army.

                Judging by the army, the Russian economy is developing successfully. good

                Without the development of the Far East, too.

                Which also? Will there be no army?

                Ukraine and what is happening on its territory are just a cover for Putin's failures.

                Is the population growth in Uzbekistan the result of Putin's successes? You’re going to explain everything around them, don’t you? Do you consider him to be a god?

                The State Department achieved the transformation of Ukraine into a hostile state, brought it out of the CIS under Putin's nose

                Transformed yes So much the worse for the Ukrainians. What does Putin have to do with it? He is not a Ukrainian president. These swine bots have shattered their own country, and Putin is to blame. Are they doing this to spite him? By the way, Kazakhstan is also trying on this rake. And also, for sure, to spite Putin yes Britain was taken out of the EU, I don’t know under whose nose ...
                1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 November 2021 20: 02
                  -3
                  In terms of the minimum wage, Russia lags behind Ukraine. And timber is perfectly cut and exported to the PRC and to Finland with uncut logs. The family of the Gauleiter Governor of the Krasnoyarsk Territory is a champion in deforestation. Since June 2021, they have covered taiga forests in Siberia and the Far East. By August 16, 2021, more than 17 million hectares had burned out - this is more than all other fires in the world combined, at least since the first satellite observations of the Earth appeared.
                  1. 123 Offline 123
                    123 (123) 28 November 2021 20: 26
                    +1
                    In terms of minimum wages, Russia lags behind Ukraine.

                    Is it a peremog? Are hordes of guest workers from the east attacking Ukrainian cordons? What's with Uzbekistan? How are they doing with the minimum wage? Once you've started comparing, don't stop.

                    And the timber is perfectly cut and transported to the PRC and to Finland with uncut logs.

                    Can not be belay What are you talking about. And I thought only in the USA, Canada, Indonesia, Brazil, and further down the list, timber is cut down and taken out with logs. it turns out that fashion has come to us?

                    The family of the Gauleiter Governor of the Krasnoyarsk Territory is a champion in deforestation. Since June 2021, they have covered taiga forests in Siberia and the Far East.
                    By August 16, 2021, more than 17 million hectares had burned out - this is more than all other fires in the world combined, at least since the first satellite observations of the Earth appeared.

                    So the forest was taken out or burned? What are you dissatisfied with?
                    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 November 2021 20: 38
                      -4
                      Siberian and Karelian timber was taken out. And what they could not burned. They left a little for brood. Uzbekistan and that shows good growth. And Russia is marking time. Once again A. Chubais must be mobilized. He significantly increased the profits of RUSNANO. He raised RAO UES from the dung. Prior to that, he successfully carried out voucher privatization. Serves as a reliable intermediary in relations with the EU, Great Britain, and the United States.
                      1. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 28 November 2021 21: 08
                        +2
                        The Siberian and Karelian timber was taken out, and what they could not burn, and a little was left for brood.

                        Eco of you rushing then. Did you eat dung with yeast? Will I be a fig figure knows where to tell that I live in the ashes.

                        Uzbekistan is showing good growth.

                        I asked you about a dozen questions about Uzbekistan. Not a single answer. so you should pour out your bilious diarrhea to someone else fellow
                        In general, heroes lard with dung! be.
                      2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 November 2021 21: 26
                        -4
                        In total, Uzbekistan spends 5-6% of GDP per year on education - this is one of the highest indicators not only in the CIS, but throughout the world, the same amount is spent on education, for example, by the United States. Russia is far from such an indicator.

                        The intensification of foreign investment has become possible thanks to the pro-market reforms carried out since 2016. It should be noted the work of the President of Uzbekistan Sh.M. Mirziyoyev, his administration and all departments involved in the development of laws that improve the investment climate and stimulate the economic activity of business. Putin for 20 years uselessly gathers forums for foreign investors.
                        Uzbekistan already has a relatively high share of industrial production (28%) and services (30%) in GDP, but this is only the beginning of a long journey. Modern factories are opening in the country, equipment is being imported, sooner or later this will lead to a significant increase in the volume of export products and home production.

                        The real growth rates of the economy of Uzbekistan have exceeded 5% for many years, and this is far from an ordinary situation. Uzbekistan together with Tajikistan became the only CIS countries last year to show positive GDP growth despite the coronavirus pandemic. Mishustin and Putin are only nodding to the coronavirus.
                      3. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 28 November 2021 22: 36
                        +1
                        In total, Uzbekistan spends 5-6% of GDP per year on education - this is one of the highest indicators not only in the CIS, but throughout the world, the same amount is spent on education, for example, by the United States. Russia is far from such an indicator.

                        You do not answer questions, but stupidly read out slogans. Goodbye. You can go to (to) Ukraine, Uzbekistan and further down the list in alphabetical order fellow ... Tell fairy tales there.
                      4. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 November 2021 22: 48
                        -3
                        In recent decades, we have had a bigger problem with long-term planning in Russia. "Cutting the dough here and now, and after us - even a flood" is one of the real national ideas, unfortunately.
                        So ahead are new anti-records of the State Armaments Program.
                        And all that senseless exhausting mess, which in our country, alas, for many makes up most of this short single life. Even Uzbekistan began to develop faster than Russia.
                      5. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 28 November 2021 23: 29
                        +1
                        In recent decades, we have had a bigger problem with long-term planning in Russia. "Cutting the dough here and now, and after us - even a flood" is one of the real national ideas, unfortunately.
                        So ahead are new anti-records of the State Arms Programs.

                        What other anti-records? For the beginning of the year.

                        the level of modern weapons in the strategic nuclear forces has reached 83%, in the Aerospace Forces - 75%, in the Navy and Airborne Forces it has exceeded 63%, and in the Ground Forces it has grown to 50%. The share of modern weapons in the RF Armed Forces as a whole has reached almost 68%

                        And all that senseless exhausting mess, which in our country, alas, for many makes up most of this short single life. Even Uzbekistan began to develop faster than Russia.

                        How has it evolved? What's with the weapons program?
                      6. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 29 November 2021 06: 22
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                        The Russian military-industrial complex (MIC) is one of the most efficient and competitive sectors of the Russian economy. It employs more than 2 million people, and the products are in constant demand despite enormous pressure on international markets. And in 2010 it became clear that the shoemaker was without boots. Something had to be done. And in 2011, a grandiose program for the rearmament of the army was launched - the State Arms Program 2011-2020, for which 23 trillion rubles were provided, a huge and incredible amount ...

                        Ended up with the expected ditch, sawing the dough and rewriting the contents of the previous program, but with a new title (now it's GPV-2027) and new deadlines.
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  • Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 30 November 2021 02: 03
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    Quote: gunnerminer
    This is understandable. As soon as the Syrian crews begin to use ammunition against the Hel Havir aircraft, and not only against guided munitions, any air defense on Syrian territory will come to an end.

    - Of course not, - no one will touch the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Navy. laughing Yes, there is no need for this: it is enough just to destroy ALL SYRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND ... laughing wink
  • Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 30 November 2021 02: 16
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    Quote: Stanislav Bykov
    ... To bomb the war-torn Syria, to destroy individual detachments of the IRGC, which is under the most severe sanctions of Iran, to threaten the Palestinians armed with sticks and stones with machine guns, this is all that is capable of today a nation of traders and speculators, and do not exaggerate its capabilities

    - Do you really believe in the nonsense you're talking about? About the "nation of traders and speculators" ?! laughing lol Jews make up a third of American Nobel laureates, and almost half of Russian and Soviet.
    https://lechaim.ru/ARHIV/109/chernyak.htm
  • Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 30 November 2021 02: 23
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    Quote: Stanislav Bykov
    Some dissonance sounds through the false statements of the land rear admiral about the alleged successes of the Syrian air defense, which allegedly manages to shoot down almost all the missiles in every Israeli attack.

    Well, refute, give convincing arguments that this information does not correspond to reality, otherwise your statements are no different from the "utterly false" statements of this Rear Admiral

    - The strikes by Israeli aviation on Hezbollah and the IRGC facilities in Syria are all filmed without fail as materials of objective control. Plus, today it is simply impossible from satellites to hide the state of the object BEFORE the Israeli air strike and AFTER. You can scream as much as you like that "almost all Israeli bombs and missiles have been shot down" - the satellite images show that here it is, the object - it was, and in the other picture there are only ruins... Today it is simply impossible to hide it.