Is Russia capable of conducting a real military operation in Venezuela

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When we have to compare the combat capabilities of the US Navy and the Russian Navy, the results, alas, are not in our favor. The American navy is many times larger and qualitatively superior to the Russian, at least in its surface area. The reasons are clear: the United States is the richest superpower, which is de facto "on the island" and therefore needs a huge powerful fleet and the most numerous Marine Corps to dictate its will to the rest of the world. Russia, despite the fact that it has one of the longest coastlines, for some reason is considered a land power. But what if we still have to fight at sea or somewhere far across several seas?

We have already dealt with this problem in part, reasoning about the consequences of the military coup in Sudan. Recall that the Russian Defense Ministry intended to acquire a naval base (PMTO) in Port Sudan. Domestic big business also showed interest in the development of gold and oil deposits in this country. If we imagine that all these agreements would have already been implemented and that anti-Russian military men would have come to power as a result of the putsch, then such a scenario meant a complete fiasco. There are only two options: submit to fate and leave, forgetting about investments, or try to support the violently overthrown regime. The latter would mean the need for a military operation, which is a very non-trivial task.



If the Russian military is in Syria at the invitation of the country's official authorities, then in the event of a successful coup d'état led by an anti-Russian military, all of Sudan would turn into a hostile territory. No air and naval bases helpfully provided to you, and instead of them - organized armed resistance. As we have already noted, to solve a similar problem with the capture of a bridgehead on a hostile coast, universal amphibious assault ships (UDC) are needed, preferably operating with the support of an aircraft carrier's carrier-based aircraft wing. You won't be able to fight much with Caliber alone, and how many of them can really be concentrated on this particular theater of operations without prejudice to defense capability in other areas? By the way, wouldn't it be cool to hit with expensive cruise missiles, for example, at a battery of mortars somewhere on the coast or other targets of a similar nature that still need to be suppressed?

In general, all this in practice is very difficult even against a poor African country. And this is provided that the Mediterranean squadron is in relative proximity and there is an air base in Khmeimim. Now let's complicate the task. Imagine that a coup d'etat took place in friendly Venezuela, where billions of dollars of Russian investment have already been actually invested. The ousted President Nicolas Maduro is hiding somewhere and is asking Moscow for help. What to do?

The question is extremely difficult. The problem is that Russia's ability to fight in such a remote theater of operations is extremely limited. It is possible, of course, to send a certain number of PMC fighters for the personal protection of the leader of a friendly country, so that his own people do not "solve it", but this in itself will not solve anything.

In fact, we are faced with the need to participate in a kind of analogue of the Falklands War, but our real possibilities are less than that of Great Britain at the time. Our only TAVRK "Admiral Kuznetsov" is in a state of permanent repair. Both promising UDCs, Ivan Rogov and Mitrofan Moskalenko, are still at the initial stage of construction. Large surface ships capable of operating in the far sea zone can be counted on one hand. Unlike the British, no one will provide us with a ready-made air base, as the Americans did for them. What to do? Collect everything that is able to somehow stay on the water, load the military, armored vehicles and send to South America? It will be good if Cuba helps and can serve as a transshipment base. And if not?

It turns out that it will be necessary to seize some kind of bridgehead. Incidentally, Caracas acquired Chinese YJ-82 medium-range anti-ship missiles (Yingji-82, export designation - C-802), which, in the event of a coup, can be turned against the Russian fleet, and anti-ship missiles can be suspended on the Su-30MK2V fighters of the Venezuelan Air Force. missiles Kh-31.

Here you go, a puzzle. Without carrier-based aircraft and without an AWACS aircraft, which assume the presence of their own aircraft carrier, it is necessary to somehow hit and neutralize all this. How and with what will we conduct reconnaissance and provide operational data for target designation to our wonderful "Caliber", "Onyx" and promising "Zircon"? Incidentally, Venezuela possesses one of the most powerful layered air defense systems, including the S-300VM air defense system, the Buk-M2E air defense system, the Pechora-2M and ZU-23 air defense systems. Let us, members of the “sect of aircraft carrier opponents”, tell us how useless these are, and at the same time explain how you plan to solve the problem in “other ways”. What, a nuclear missile bang, which in some circles is considered almost as a universal means?

Then, perhaps, this Venezuela is of no use to us? Let them deal with their own problems ... We didn’t promise Maduro, did we? And billions of dollars in investments, well, burned out and burned, which is already here ... Not the first time.

Or is it that the RF Ministry of Defense may face a similar task? And then it will have to be solved somehow? Well, then we need to start building a modern balanced navy. Nowhere to build aircraft carriers? Let's order them in China, where they have already got the knack to rivet them according to modernized Soviet projects. We will make and install the nuclear power plant ourselves. It will turn out faster and cheaper than waiting for the slipways to be vacated at Sevmash. Let's make our own short take-off and vertical landing (SCVVP) aircraft based on the Yak-141. Then we will be able to load them onto large container ships and transport them to a remote theater of operations, to the same shores of Cuba or Venezuela. Let's build enough of the Club-K missile systems to mount on mobilized container ships and other civilian vessels. This will make it possible to quickly increase the number of strike weapons carriers.

Such measures will allow the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation to expand its capabilities to conduct large-scale military operations even in a very remote theater of operations, which can only be dreamed of now.
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  1. -3
    30 October 2021 15: 55
    Is Russia capable of conducting a real military operation in Venezuela

    - No ... - not capable ... - The author himself speaks about this ... - Who else today can "quietly make some noise" (from Russia) is a PMC; but they are of little use ...
    - Russia in Syria for almost 7 years has not been able to properly settle ... - what kind of Venezuela is there ...
    - It was the Bolsheviks who could easily solve such questions ... - The USSR had military bases in Asia and Cuba and Africa. and so on ... - And the USSR did not ask permission - neither from Western Europe, nor from America - can it create military bases there ... or not ... - Yes, and the USSR had "breakdowns" ... - both in Egypt and in Africa ... - But it didn't mean anything ... - anyway - there was a constant movement of Russian military advisers, Soviet military representatives in all corners of the world ... - And the USSR - they tried not to "touch" .. . - ANYWHERE ... and NOBODY ...
    - And today ...- they are trying to "offend Russia" ... - EVERYTHING ... and EVERYWHERE
    1. -3
      30 October 2021 20: 03
      Yes, and the USSR had "breakdowns" ... - both in Egypt and in Africa ... - But it didn't mean anything ... - anyway - there was a constant movement of Russian military advisers, Soviet military representatives in all corners of the world. .. - And the USSR - they tried not to "touch" ... - ANYWHERE ... and NOBODY ...

      Especially sensitive movement was in Afghanistan. "But it didn't mean anything ..."
      "We tried not to hurt."

      https://vsebasni.ru/krylov/lev-i-komar.html
    2. 0
      31 October 2021 22: 59
      A military victory in Ukraine will shed a lot of blood.
      We need to bring a normal government.
      This is where everything goes. And Zelensky and Co. should be put on trial.
      1. 0
        4 November 2021 22: 04
        Why judge Zelensky? he is not an independent politician, it is still evident. that he makes all statements under the direction and under the dictation. Its independence is 30%. You will also condemn his cook and hairdresser. The same clowns, like you, offering to condemn him. Are you afraid to condemn Avakov and Turchinov? Weak? ....
        1. 0
          4 November 2021 22: 15
          Did the whites overeat for the holiday? bully
          1. 0
            4 November 2021 22: 39
            what holiday? There are people who really lead politics and control the processes in Ukraine. And you will not judge them? And they decided to condemn the clown ...
            1. 0
              4 November 2021 22: 45
              And Zelensky and Co. should be put on trial.

              What is "Ko" you know?
              You can add anyone you want to the list. bully
              Today he is not a clown, but a president.

              Not a sucker, but the president ...

              V.Zelensky

              As a president, one should be judged.
              Together with a company of intruders.
              1. 0
                4 November 2021 22: 47
                empty words. No one will judge him, he has already come to a ready crisis in Ukraine and Ukrainian society.
                1. 0
                  4 November 2021 22: 49
                  It's my opinion. And how everything goes - we'll see.
                  Not yet evening. Adyos.
    3. 0
      4 January 2022 22: 02
      It's a complete lie. Assad had nothing left, and then Russia came, and that was the end of the Islamic state of terrorists. It was not Assad who left, but Obama.
  2. 0
    30 October 2021 16: 24
    I haven’t even read it, but I’ll answer - Russia is not capable of anything anywhere .... About 800 thousand inhabitants of the LPRP believed that Russia did not abandon its own people, and rushed to get Russian citizenship, and we just spat in their faces, when the other day Bandera gangs broke into the neutral zone, and seized a dilapidated village with about 180 residents, of which 37 people had Russian citizenship and passports, and they are now being pressed in basements for treason "nenke" sewn to them ... To me, unlike our Ministry of Foreign Affairs, etc. . the authorities, it is a shame for our country, for our "guarantor" that so cowardly ignores and turns away from what is happening in Ukraine.
    1. +2
      30 October 2021 19: 10
      Quote: Valentine
      Unlike our Foreign Ministry and other authorities, I am ashamed of our country, our "guarantor" that so cowardly ignores and turns away from what is happening in Ukraine.

      Dear Valentine, I don’t know what your real name is, I want to draw your attention, you make mistakes that are typical of people who are used to writing from right to left (comma arrangement). This is not the first time I ask you very, very much, be ashamed of your real homeland. laughing
      1. 0
        30 October 2021 20: 14
        I don't know what your real name is, I want to draw your attention, you make mistakes that are typical of people who are used to writing from right to left

        "for real" in this context is written with a hyphen.
        After "people" - a comma is put.

        The teacher himself must be impeccable.
        1. +1
          30 October 2021 20: 49
          I will definitely take your remark into account and I will be more attentive, thank you. Yes
        2. -1
          30 October 2021 22: 13
          In which countries do they write from right to left?
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        3. 0
          31 October 2021 05: 41
          Yes, he does not even know in writing what the "circumstances of action" are, but in the same place, to teach others.
          1. 0
            31 October 2021 09: 47
            Valentineso what circumstances forced you be ashamed their homeland?

            You evaded answering this question last time.

            Quote: isofat
            Dear, decipher what our power is to blame, why are you so ashamed of it? And who is our soft-boiled one? Be so kind as to tell those present your version.

            Can you still have some courage? This is not the first time you repent and be ashamed of your homeland. sad

            PS And what is in writing "circumstances of action"? And what don't I know yet? request

            Quote: Valentine
            Yes, he does not even know in writing what "circumstances of action" are, ...
            1. +2
              31 October 2021 10: 26
              Quote: isofat
              Dear, decipher what our power is to blame, why are you so ashamed of it?

              Her only fault is that we are constantly doused with mud, even such "giants" as the Balts and ukronednye spit in the face, constantly accuse her of what she did not do, and we only humiliatingly wipe ourselves off and happily squealing, we bend more and more and express the next Chinese "concerns".

              Quote: isofat
              Repent

              - I have never repented to anyone, and I have lived and worked my life with dignity in the Kr.sever, and now on a well-deserved, worthy pension.
              1. -1
                31 October 2021 15: 55
                Quote: Valentine
                Her only fault is that ... we are only humiliatingly wiping ourselves and squealing with joy ...

                Valentine, you are not telling the truth. It is not Russia's fault that you do not like its diplomatic means. And your behavior says that you can't wait to unleash a war as soon as possible. sad

                PS It remains only to figure out whether you are doing it deliberately or out of stupidity. smile
                1. 0
                  31 October 2021 17: 30
                  Such "diplomatic means" are akin to cowardice, when Russian people are dying in the Donbass, and the United States has unleashed more than 50 wars in the world in the post-war years, and its troops are stationed in almost 130 countries of the world in one capacity or another, and in your last remark you look like then a disgusting little man ..... You can not answer, you are not interesting to me.
                  1. -1
                    31 October 2021 18: 42
                    So you are doing a completely different "friend", you attack Russia and defame it.

                    Russians and Ukrainians are one people, and you are in a hurry to start a civil war. smile
            2. +1
              31 October 2021 10: 29
              Quote: isofat
              And what is in writing "circumstances of action"?

              Buy "Primer", it says that the turn of speech indicating the circumstances of actions or time, or place, etc., are always taken in commas. Your spelling "Characteristic of people (comma) accustomed to write ... -and after the comma it is "the circumstances of the action".
              1. -2
                31 October 2021 13: 58
                Valentine, you in your comment, confused something or want to justify the "free" placement of punctuation marks.

                I noticed before that almost every other time in the comments you are ashamed of your homeland, this is not normal.

                PS To be on the safe side, I deny normalcy, not insanity — abnormality. smile
        4. -1
          31 October 2021 08: 56
          Pretty boy!
          1. -1
            31 October 2021 09: 52
            Thank you Cyril.
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      2. +1
        31 October 2021 05: 53
        I, too, don't know what your real name is, and you play here with cliques in "scouts", and Valentine is my name given to me at birth .... I don't know what kind of tribe you are, but I am for sure I am sure that you were not ashamed of the alcoholic president Yeltsin. And about the punctuation in which you very much swim, I do it the way I want to express my thoughts in speech, and nothing more, so take the course "arithmetic again ".
        1. 0
          31 October 2021 13: 16
          Valentine, I am glad that my "admirers" are gathered here in this post! I didn't have to put in a lot of effort for this. The only pity is that not everyone came. Perhaps I was wrong in my predictions, there are fewer of you than I think.

          I will not wait for late well-wishers, I will take this opportunity to say now:

          - Friends, I'm not ashamed of my homeland! I am proud of my homeland! love Yes
          1. +2
            31 October 2021 17: 40
            Your Motherland Israel appeared in 1948 only with the kind decision of Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin, so you can be proud of that, and you no longer have "well-wishers", and do not be rude to them like a podzabornaya punks.
            1. -1
              31 October 2021 18: 30
              I am quoting your first comment, I took it shorter:

              Quote: Valentine
              I agree with you, this could have been postponed, but they themselves were "shot in the foot", and the stench is greater than with the elections in America.

              I see that you cannot remember, "forgot" how punctuation marks are placed. laughing
          2. -2
            31 October 2021 22: 38
            - Friends, I'm not ashamed of my homeland! I am proud of my homeland!

            It is a pity that the Motherland is not very much only with you :)
            1. -1
              31 October 2021 23: 06
              So what? It is important for me that I have it.
      3. 0
        12 January 2022 21: 39
        you must be a teacher
    2. +1
      4 January 2022 22: 06
      Lie, Valentine (Valentine), but don't lie. If the inhabitants of the LDNR would like to live in Russia, they would have already been joined, like the Crimea. Only in 1991, 90 percent of the inhabitants of the LPRP voted for secession from Russia, and in Crimea, only 50 percent. Over time, it changed its mind, and half of the population became for Russia. Only in Crimea it was 100 percent, and in the LPNR a little more than 50. And the second half will poison the wells and blow up bridges in Russia? Yes in figs you are needed here.
  3. -2
    30 October 2021 16: 47
    Capable .. Where are the interests of "non-existent oligarchs" and where they are allowed to go. Raw colony .. Putin at the Valdai Forum yelled at the top of his voice -I am mine! Burzhuinsky! Well, and other pearls.
    1. +3
      30 October 2021 19: 37
      How many of you are there?
  4. +2
    30 October 2021 18: 21
    to us in Sudan - pooping and writing and spitting from afar
  5. 0
    30 October 2021 18: 36
    So what? Not capable.
    Likewise, the Chinese are not capable, and yet they have also invested in Venezuela. And all sorts of neighbors - Brazilian Argentines too

    Aircraft carriers are good, but they are secondary. Economics is primary.
    That's when there will be a bunch of airports in the country, inexpensive regional aviation, developed slipways, a lot of new operating factories, hospitals, schools, vocational schools, ... then aircraft carriers will appear as if by themselves ...
    1. +2
      31 October 2021 07: 49
      So what? Not capable.
      Likewise, the Chinese are not capable, and yet they have also invested in Venezuela. And all sorts of neighbors - Brazilian Argentines too

      The Chinese, perhaps, can, if they want to.
      1. 0
        31 October 2021 10: 35
        To expose China and send at least half a fleet for half the world, butting at the doorstep of Omeriki ???

        There are no fools in China, IMHO.
        And with the recent crisis, the media did not write that China would send something in support ...
  6. 0
    30 October 2021 18: 53
    Hospidia, give him an aircraft carrier ... even two.
    1. 0
      31 October 2021 07: 35
      I noticed long ago that either its enemies, who are beneficial for the country to sit within its borders and not get out anywhere, oppose the appearance of aircraft carriers in Russia, or d .. raki.
      1. +1
        31 October 2021 11: 31
        Or realists, realizing that if you take a lot, you can tear your navel;)
        What kind of invasion of Venezuela are you talking about, comrades, you are out of your mind ... you cannot play on the computer ... no Venezuela with invested billions is worth the military invasion of Russia and the victims of its soldiers.
        That is, you are either a person with the self-awareness of a schoolboy playing toys on a computer, or, as you put it in the direction of opponents ...
  7. +2
    30 October 2021 22: 02
    after the latest events in Donbass and the reaction of the Kremlin inmates to the capture of Russian citizens by the Bandera, now hardly anyone will believe the geochemist
  8. +1
    30 October 2021 22: 47
    I do not advise, mneeee .... I do not advise! I do not recommend it very much!
  9. -2
    31 October 2021 00: 05
    The unrealizable fantasies of Mr. Marzhetsky are naive and funny as always. Thanks to him for creating a good mood before bed! good
    1. -2
      31 October 2021 00: 44
      The Israeli government approved the proposal of the Minister of Tourism Konstantin (Yoel) Razvozov on admitting Russian tourists vaccinated with the Sputnik V vaccine to Israel from November 15. This issue was discussed at a recent meeting between Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

      We were born to make a fairy tale come true ... Yes
    2. 0
      31 October 2021 00: 50
      That's for sure! Why write nonsense so consistently? ;) If the government is overthrown in Venezuela, it's too late to rush! This is how much you have to play the fool? If there is an opportunity to help retain the legitimate power, then this must be done in advance, and no stupid aircraft carrier is needed there! UDC? It doesn't hurt, but it's fine to do without it too. There you will have to act quickly and proactively, and the UDC will go there for a month! There is no need to land on a foreign shore, there will be a seaport and an airport ... The latter, moreover, is much more important. And when there is already nothing, there is no point in climbing! Venezuela is not a Durcaina!
      1. -1
        31 October 2021 07: 36
        Who is actually writing nonsense here is still a big question.
        1. 0
          31 October 2021 11: 32
          Question for you?)
      2. -1
        31 October 2021 08: 45
        If the government is overthrown in Venezuela, then it's too late to rush! This is how much you have to play the fool?

        In Ukraine, we have been playing the fool for 7 years. In Syria, when did the war start and when did Russia join it?

        If there is an opportunity to help retain the legitimate power, then this must be done in advance, and no stupid aircraft carrier is needed there!

        Come on? laughing By the way, about the stupid aircraft carrier. An aircraft carrier is just a floating airfield. When you declare him stupid, you call fighters, helicopters and AWACS planes stupid.

        UDC? It doesn't hurt, but it's fine to do without it too. There you will have to act quickly and proactively, and the UDC will go there for a month!

        How smart you are. See above about efficiency.

        There is no need to land on a foreign shore, there will be a seaport and an airport ... The latter, moreover, is much more important.

        Well, tell me how you will carry out this task without the UDC in conditions of countering aviation and air defense. And even more so without a stupid unnecessary aircraft carrier. Step by step.

        And when there is already nothing, there is no point in climbing! Venezuela is not a Durcaina!

        Awesome commentary on meaningfulness. Bravo!
        1. +1
          31 October 2021 11: 20
          I, unlike you, in the past a submarine officer, then a leading engineer at TNIIS, which carried out the equipment of Tbilisi and Riga with electronic warfare systems ("Constellation-BR", which later became Kuznetsov and Varyag / Liaoning, only our cables were laid there 870 km) , so I'm talking about real things, not spherical horses in a vacuum ...

          I will answer in order:

          In Ukraine, we have been playing the fool for 7 years. In Syria, when did the war start and when did Russia join it?

          Ukraine is nearby, or you also propose to push the aircraft carrier into the steppe;) And actions in DUrkain are determined by 99,999% not by the possibilities of army operations (the fleet is actually not needed there at all!), But by political and economic moments, the restoration and maintenance of the 35 millionth country, sanctions, and all for what?

          Syria - yes, another story, it was to her that the loss of even not very successful Mistrals was significant. They could have played some kind of positive role, although buying 10 dry cargo vessels for the price of Mistral, we will get much more in this case! But in practice, they cost much less;)) But even in Syria, we did not have to land on a hostile coast and capture a bridgehead. We quietly flew to Khmeimim and quietly unloaded in Tartus ... We prepared for a month, then we started a jihad with jihadists.

          By the way, about the stupid aircraft carrier. An aircraft carrier is just a floating airfield. When you declare him stupid, you call fighters, helicopters and AWACS planes stupid.

          An aircraft carrier - for people who understand reality in a very simplified way, yes, it is a "floating airfield". And we had such a "floating" - Kuzya. I will not say how much the participation of this pelvis has cost. And how much does its maintenance and equipment cost - I think no need to tell? I'm not even talking about its construction, about the fact that there are no AWACS on it and there is no trace of it. In general, we theoretically have AWACS, but in fact, there is no modern A-100 either. But the A-100 in Syria from Khmeimim will give an order of magnitude more than the most recent Hokkai, with the cost of an hour of operation an order of magnitude less! I generally keep quiet about fighters from an aircraft carrier ... This is a forced measure and comparing them with "normal" aircraft is not the smartest step.

          Well, tell me how you will carry out this task without the UDC in conditions of countering aviation and air defense. And even more so without a stupid unnecessary aircraft carrier. Step by step.

          We perfectly, without any UDC, landed in Syria. And without any UDC, we will perfectly deal with DUrkaina, be it a political decision - there are no military problems at all!
          This is not about the fact that UDCs are not needed - they are just needed and are being built ... And even an aircraft carrier would be useful, in theory ... But you need to have brains to understand the cost / efficiency ratio! When there was no large-radius CD, nuclear submarines, powerful anti-ship missiles and other things, but for the "island" states it was, and still is in many cases, no alternative!
          But Russia is not the United States (France and Great Britain actually have the same floating cripples as Kuzya and I), it makes no sense for us to spend gigantic money on AUG! And nobody offers them to us for free!
          1. 0
            31 October 2021 19: 18
            You are not a naval officer, most likely you saw the sea only in pictures and from the beach, you are an ordinary balabol.
    3. -2
      31 October 2021 07: 52
      Not at all, Ukrainian-American-Israeli propagandist.
  10. +3
    31 October 2021 03: 32
    We didn't promise Maduro, did we? And billions of dollars in investments, well, burned out and burned out, which is already here ... Not the first time.

    Russia, "of good will," wrote off tens of billions of dollars to debtor countries and did not even bring anyone to criminal responsibility. Why, for the sake of several billion dollars stolen from Russia by some crooks - aligarchs and who invested them in extremely risky enterprises in Venezuela, we must build an aircraft carrier and a pair of UDCs for 15-20 billion dollars, for a few more billion dollars to form an air wing and send them "slaughtered" with thousands of marines and sailors?
    Is it worth it?
    And let the aligarhs hire private security companies for "their" (stolen) money, arm them at their own expense and "cover" their business.
  11. +1
    31 October 2021 07: 45
    Quote: assault 2019
    Why, for the sake of several billion dollars stolen from Russia by some swindlers - aligarchs and who invested them in extremely risky enterprises in Venezuela, we must build an aircraft carrier and a pair of UDCs for 15-20 billion dollars, and for a few billion dollars more to form an air wing and send them "slaughtered" with thousands of marines and sailors?
    Is it worth it?

    Why the Russian Navy needs aircraft carriers, I have already described in a dozen articles on this topic, in as much detail as possible: air defense KUG, anti-submarine warfare, etc. Without aircraft carriers, our fleet can do nothing to oppose the AUG of the US Navy, alas.
    The last two deal with aspects related to their other possible use, for example, providing an expeditionary force and amphibious assault on a hostile coast. The question of whether it is worth it or not is not considered. It is precisely about the possibility of such an operation to be carried out or about its absence. Unlike the USSR, we no longer have such an opportunity. Incidentally, I did not see a single concrete proposal from them, how they will solve the above-mentioned problem without an "unnecessary" aircraft carrier. Only rudeness.
    However, this is not surprising.
    You must understand that sabotage tales about the uselessness of Russian aircraft carriers are spread by our enemies, who have achieved that immediately after the collapse of the USSR, all our aircraft carrying cruisers were scrapped or sold abroad. Miraculously, only "Kuzya" remained, and then he was almost drowned, and then almost burned. It is beneficial for Russia's enemies that it has no real opportunities to intervene somewhere, sitting within its continental borders.
    1. 0
      31 October 2021 19: 22
      With all due respect, you are throwing beads, you cannot explain anything to them, their punishment, as well as all of us, will be the roar of air raid sirens for the next 10-15 years ...
    2. +1
      31 October 2021 22: 02
      You must understand that sabotage tales about the uselessness of Russian aircraft carriers are spread by our enemies, who achieved that immediately after the collapse of the USSR, all our aircraft-carrying cruisers were scrapped or sold abroad.

      Can you give a real assessment of the effectiveness of aircraft-carrying cruisers built in the USSR?
      Could these cruisers be on an equal footing with the US AUG?
      Could these cruisers provide a no-fly zone over a given area?
      Could these cruisers provide massive air cover and powerful fire support for the landing operation?
      If we give honest answers to these three questions, then we will learn three solid NO.

      Maybe you shouldn't worry about the sale of aircraft-carrying cruisers that would hang like a heavy load on the Navy's neck or rot at the quay wall like other cruisers.
      The Russian economy might have pulled in the construction of a couple of three not the largest aircraft carriers with a displacement of 50-60 thousand tons, but then it will be necessary for ten to fifteen years to completely block the export of capital from Russia and ensure their mandatory "infusion" into the economy.
      Take it by yourself, otherwise the navel will break!
  12. +2
    31 October 2021 12: 10
    To have military capabilities similar to those of the United States and China, one must have the corresponding economic influence (which we do not have). But 30 years ago we were not robbed so that today we dictate our terms to the world. This must be understood. And so, yes, an aircraft carrier is a spectacular toy (in some cases even effective), but far from being a solution to all problems.
  13. 0
    31 October 2021 12: 38
    Quote: Couch Division
    It is beneficial for Russia's enemies that it has no real opportunities to intervene somewhere, sitting within its continental borders.

    And this, unfortunately, is also true.
  14. +2
    31 October 2021 14: 19
    The author is still lobbying for the "galleons" of the last century.
    What kind of regimes are these so friendly that they are overthrown at once by a handful of pro-Western "contras"? He offers to build aircraft carriers for the sake of a group of mercenaries. Whereas, a similar group of military advisers is sufficient to counteract.
    Americans are desperate, do not know what to do with their floating coffins, but for some reason we need them. And if in a dozen friendly countries "contrasts" are immediately activated? Should we build ten aircraft carriers at once? And how to supply those located on distant shores in the conditions of absolute domination of the western fleet on sea lanes?
    The problem is clearly sucked out of the American "finger".
    There are no such forces in Sudan or Venezuela capable of demolishing a friendly regime, supported by our advisers and light armored vehicles. Only if there is a full-fledged invasion of the army of neighbors. And to eliminate this threat, a couple of Tu-22Ms are enough.
    The author proposes to invest heavily in the weapons of the last century. I guess whose ears stick out behind him.
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  16. -2
    31 October 2021 22: 04
    Yachts of Putin's druzhbanov are more important than some aircraft carriers
  17. 0
    1 November 2021 04: 01
    They could not break Chechnya, they just agreed, and then Venezuela, at the first losses, how to make up how to get people there !?
  18. -1
    3 November 2021 19: 04
    Any country can do something, but how can it end. Of the countries of the Second World War, there is only one left that can twist a wire into a pig's patch, so that the United States does not dig. The wife teaches her husband - take an example from the pig, she does not drink vodka. Her husband might have had a drink, but who would give her. Maybe they did it, so who will go against money for money. The money is not in their own banks, but in strangers, and everyone already knows where they are. One has only to click with pliers and the connection with money will be cut off. In order to believe in them, even their children were taken hostage. Anything can be said. From ancient times, everyone knows that a dog that barks does not bite.
  19. 0
    5 December 2021 10: 28
    And yet, the author builds his conclusions based on some kind of fiction or Hollywood films.
    If billions of dollars are invested in any friendly country, then a priori there are already our specialists who are monitoring the situation. And it is difficult to imagine how all the missiles and planes delivered earlier suddenly turned against a recent ally at once. Well, what is the level of military planning and what resources should the "rebels" have? Or what kind of "friendly regime" is it that needs to be protected from its own army?
    A similar situation is possible only with a full-scale aggression by neighboring states.
    To prevent which, it is not necessary to deploy an air strike group with a huge number of escort and cover ships.
    There are enough military experts to eliminate the threat from the grimy contras.
    Perhaps, in the most unfavorable development of events, the UDC can be of great help. But still
    UDC and aircraft carrier are different classes of ships.
    In the event of a serious confrontation with all the navies of the West, completely different strategies and tools will be used. And getting involved in the race of fleets was initially a defeat, we have already gone through this.
  20. +1
    4 January 2022 22: 21
    During World War II, the United States lost 11 unsinkable aircraft carriers, England 10 aircraft carriers, and Japan lost 21 aircraft carriers. The fact that the US AUG is unsinkable is an ordinary American bike, the Americans love and know how to breach, this is their national trait, one of the main national signs.
    A new war will begin, and one aircraft carrier after another will go to the bottom if the United States chooses the wrong enemy.
  21. 0
    18 January 2022 13: 25
    And who gave a hundred percent guarantee that they are not there?

    - Do you see the gopher?
    - Not. I do not see.
    - That's it. And he is there.

    (Dialogue "bullet" and capter from the film DMB)