"And they said that Russia would collapse": Poles discussed the gas crisis in the EU

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Polish readers of the Interia portal reacted to a new article in which Russia was accused of "profiting" from high energy prices. Such a statement of the question surprised the commentators a lot.

Many reproaches from them went to the authorities of the country and the Law and Justice Party (abbreviated as PiS), which is currently the ruling party in Poland.



Reader comments (selectively):

Yes, Europe is suffering from soaring oil and gas prices. And hasn't Russia also suffered from the EU sanctions? And then when in Europe there is economic boom, it is, they say, thanks to the EU, and when the recession, then, then, is Russia to blame? Indeed, Europe has its own gas and oil fields, which are being developed by Norway, England, the Netherlands and others. Why don't mining companies themselves lower market prices, but seek to put pressure on Russia, which no longer wants to sign long-term contracts, but sells resources on the spot market, where speculators raise prices?

- asks lala.

And a year ago, they ridiculed Russia that, they say, it herself would pay extra to buyers for what was mined, because it needs to be stored somewhere

- lewa laments.

[...] They [the Polish authorities] had the opportunity to get a deal for $ 290 per 1000 cubic meters of gas from Gazprom, but they, like home-grown prophets, predicted cheap gas and as a result, after three months, they returned to Gazprom in excess of all those the money that they previously received from him after winning the arbitration [...]

- Jakostobedzie is indignant.

Well, yes, and our experts argued that in the coming months Russia will collapse due to a sharp drop in oil and gas sales [...]

- reminded p58.

If I am not mistaken, they promised on television that Russia would go bankrupt. If we were smarter in choosing friends, then both with China and with Russia trade could continue to this day, and so we have exactly what we have

- stressed the user with the nickname EHE.

Hungary signed a 15-year supply agreement with Russia, making it the cheapest gas in the entire Eurokolkhoz (except Germany, of course). Cheap energy means a strong economy, cheaper labor and cost of production. So they will win. The Germans and Hungarians are simply wiser, and the PiS puppet government only raised their salaries, continuing to bark at Russia

- Replies to the previous comment by the reader Stary Komuch.

Let's thank the Russophobes. They are so great at managing the Polish energy sector that electricity and gas become more expensive, and the Germans laugh because they will have cheap gas from Russia for many years to come.

- real.

Russia should have been allowed to build a pipeline through Polish territory and charge for it, and the fools in the government did not agree to this, and now they are at a dead end. One must live in peace with one's neighbor

- Kazik reasoned.

There is gas in Russia, and it makes money on it. So what's the problem? And we, Poland, must take care of our interests and agree on the conditions for the supply of gas or oil. Nobody makes us love Russians, but the fact that we are neighbors, nobody will change

- responded wuja.
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  1. -9
    21 October 2021 08: 22
    Hungary signed a 15-year supply agreement with Russia, making it the cheapest gas in the entire Eurokolkhoz (except Germany, of course). Cheap energy means a strong economy, cheaper labor and cost of production. So they will win.

    - Yes, they will win (Hungary and Germany; Germany in general is all in "chocolate") ... - but Russia "flew in full" ... - What good is it for Russia from these "long-term agreements", where Russian gas will be supplied at a minimum price for a huge number of years ???
    - Yes, over such a huge period - the whole world ... - and even more so "prices for absolutely everything" - will change so that Russian gas supplies (and even in such colossal volumes ... - I mean - to Germany, and to Hungary) and at such an insignificant price ... - they will simply become unprofitable for Russia ...
    - There is a living example of this ... - this is the "poor fellow Turkmenistan", which has been supplying its gas to China for a long time at a loss for itself; and Russia - with its supplies all to the same China ... - And now - to these "Russian supplies" were also added supplies to Western Europe ... - Here is another "trap" about which I personally have so much wrote ... - Will Russia be able to at least "justify" the SP-2, at least in 100 years ??? - All the "SP-2 co-founders" ... - "they will take their own" - and first of all they will do it ... - And Russia will remain "on the beans" ... - However - and Gazprom - too will take "... - How personally I am" glad "for Western Europe ... and for Gazprom as well ...
    1. +1
      21 October 2021 09: 49
      You read the article poorly. Comment: ..... resent Jakostobedzie
      1. -5
        21 October 2021 11: 36
        You read the article poorly. Comment: ..... resent Jakostobedzie

        - It is you - "you read the article very badly" ... - The fact that "who is indignant and who is not" does not matter here at all ... - Nothing depends on this "indignation" ... - Everything has already been done. ..
        - Sapienti sat (For an understanding enough) ...
    2. 0
      22 October 2021 21: 56
      Irina, you are definitely a blonde.
      I have not read such enchanting nonsense for a long time.
      Or do you work out the grandik so mediocrely?
      As Comrade Lenin said: political ... (and then you yourself know)
      1. -1
        22 October 2021 22: 28
        I disagree with you about the blonde. If I understand the situation correctly, then there are shifts, and there is diligence.
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    4. -1
      5 November 2021 05: 58
      The hair is long, the mind is short. Of course not. Your desire to please for the power is worthy of praise. But it’s not bad at least to inquire about the details. At least with deliveries to China. Your indignation is understandable. WONDERFUL. But a factory was built at the entrance of the pipe to China and which diligently cleans the gas going to China from all impurities. But these impurities are very valuable raw materials for production. The gas that has fallen into China can only be burned. China grinds its teeth but suffers. Contract. So it will be with Europe. It seems that in Ust-Luga the same plant is being built. Chemists of Germany are already starting to knock with their hooves. So you and Germany should not rejoice, but start grieving. laughing
  2. -4
    21 October 2021 11: 25
    Decarbonization is underway: Russia is getting rid of gas and oil (by the way, too, by the way) so that we can have it like Europe. Europe is protecting itself from carbonization with energy packages as much as it can. Well, there are costs: both ours and their prices are growing.