How can Russia achieve 500 million population?

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On the eve of the President Vladimir Putin noted the next statements on a historical theme. With reference to some studies, the head of state, at a meeting with the younger generation, lamented that the population of Russia could now be all 500 million people. According to Vladimir Vladimirovich, this was prevented by the Revolution of 1917 and the collapse of the Soviet Union. Quite an interesting point of view.

First of all, it is necessary to understand where this figure of half a billion people came from in general in public discourse.



500 million


500 million people is a very difficult figure, and it is definitely not taken from the ceiling. This is the number of the solvent population calculated by economists, which is necessary for the complete self-sufficiency of the state or their unification. Thus, during the Cold War, there were two competing systems in the Old World at once: the capitalist Common Market of Western Europe and the Socialist Council economic mutual assistance of the USSR and the countries of Eastern Europe. Together, each of these two poles had about 400 million consumers, which made them economically almost self-sufficient. Almost.

In 1991, the Soviet Union collapsed and the Western world began to expand to the East. The business ended with the creation of the European Union, which as of 2019 totaled 513,5 million people. These were not just half a billion, they were the “golden half a billion” of wealthy consumers. As a matter of fact, Brussels stopped further enlargement of the EU, leaving all new applicants who “didn’t come out on the face”, like Turkey or Ukraine, at the gate for an indefinite period of time. The Euroassociation is the maximum that all latecomers could count on, but nothing more. A certain blow to this balanced system was dealt in 2020 as a result of Brexit. London left the EU, taking 66,6 million high-quality consumers with it, and today the union has a population of 447,7 million. This presents a rather serious challenge for Brussels.

An interesting situation in the USA. The population of the United States is 335 million. However, it is quite acceptable to add to it the neighboring countries of the North American continent. For example, Canada is home to nearly 40 million people, and Mexico - 137,7 million people. All together this is already the sought-after 512 million, the sought-after half a billion "with a tail" of consumers.

In this regard, at first glance, it looks like a strange move by the UK, which decided to leave the EU at such a difficult time, having lost free access to the European market. However, this question can be viewed from a different angle. There is the Commonwealth of Nations (formerly the British Commonwealth of Nations), which includes almost all the former dominions and protectorates of London, as well as a number of other countries. There are 54 of them in total, and the headquarters is, of course, in London. The total population of this supranational structure is 2,2 billion people, that is, 30% of the population of the entire Earth. In this vein, the desire of the British to play their game, without looking back at Brussels, Berlin and Paris, takes on a slightly different look.

Finally, among the global powers, it is necessary to mention China with its 1,5 billion population. The big problem was that these consumers could not be called "quality" due to widespread poverty, but over the past decades, Beijing has managed to significantly improve the level of well-being of the Chinese. According to some estimates, today the PRC may well rely on its half a billion “correct” consumers. This means that the loss of access to the American and European markets will be a heavy blow for the Middle Kingdom, but not fatal. The "Chinese dragon" will go on a diet, but will not die.

Against this background, our country looks very depressing with its 143 million people. And here the most interesting thing begins - the search for the guilty.

Who is to blame?


President Putin commented on the situation as follows:

Here, in our country, during the 1917th century, Russian statehood collapsed twice: after the revolution of 500, when the Russian Empire ceased to exist. Then the collapse of the Soviet Union happened. If they hadn't happened, we would have had a different country. Some experts believe that our population would now be about XNUMX million people.

It is regrettable that Vladimir Vladimirovich consistently sees the Soviet government as guilty, clearly implying that it was the Bolsheviks who destroyed the Russian Empire, and then the “wrong” communists destroyed the USSR. After all, it was Lenin, in his words, "who planted the atomic bomb" under the Soviet Union.

Guessing what would happen if it were, this is a completely thankless task. I just want to remind you that Tsar Nicholas was not overthrown by the Bolsheviks. I wonder what kind of Revolution Putin sees as the root cause of the collapse of the empire, October or February? And the "Red Terror" was only a response to the "White Terror". And the hot stage of the Civil War began after the Czechoslovak corps, subordinate, among other things, to the French army, received the go-ahead for action. And the Bolsheviks did not invite foreign invaders to visit us. And it was the "white hero" Baron Wrangel who pledged the Black Sea Fleet that fell into his hands to the French for their military assistance:

The assets of the Crimean government, which can be used for the costs of evacuating refugees, their maintenance and subsequent arrangement, are a combat squadron and a commercial fleet. They have no obligations of a financial nature, and Your Excellency propose that they be immediately pledged to France.

Later, the hijacked ships were sold for next to nothing. The ships of the Pacific and Northern Fleets, taken to Manula and Great Britain, were also plundered. And how much gold did the White Czechs take to Europe? How much Russian gold is kept in Japanese banks to this day?

And why, by the way, do they not consider how much the Russian Empire lost before the Revolution of 1917 in the First World War, which we do not need? According to various estimates, this is from 2 to 754 people. And how much did we lose in the Great Patriotic War? Among the military alone, this figure is 202, and among civilians it is even more - 3. By the way, if you are to play in an alternative history, in which there was no October, then you are sure that the Russian Empire under the Romanovs would have resisted the Third Reich? It seems to the author of the lines that no, with all due respect to the courage of the Russian soldiers. After all, the Great Patriotic War was a war of two ideologies: the man-hating Nazi and the humanitarian communist. It is not excluded that "Russia, which we have lost", with its agrarian nature of the economy, class division, the Pale of Settlement for Jews and other "delights" of the social order, would have held out a little longer than France against the Wehrmacht. Then we, most likely, would not have drunk Bavarian, and few of those who received the "Germanization" would have served the "Aryan" masters.

However, all this is "alternative", which has the right to exist to the same extent as the sadness for the missing 500 million of the population. The question is what to do here and now in the real world?

What to do?


Objectively, we need a new integration project in order to gather countries around Russia in the post-Soviet space, creating our own capacious internal market. But on what foundations will it be based?

The paradox is that we need just "USSR-2.0", which our ruling elite does not want so much. Hence the constant kicks on the carcass of the "dead lion". But there is no particular alternative. The liberal economy with its “invisible hand of the market”, thank you, has been fed up. It is also difficult to call modern society socially just. There is obviously a request for change, and it would be extremely unwise to ignore them. It's time to draw some conclusions. Correct conclusions. Smart people would try to lead what they cannot win.
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  1. -4
    3 September 2021 16: 18
    Under Putin, Russia is only dying out. For the beginning, send Putin to retire. And then it will be seen.
  2. -4
    3 September 2021 17: 35
    Not to see the Russian Federation of 500 people, and we don’t need it, this "half-lard", because it is much more important for our resource-rent economy (and post-Mongolian imperial Russia will always have this, one way or another, as long as Russia wants to join the empire and remains a huge resource piece of territory) - to improve the quality of the population that we have, i.e. for us, the real path is transformation into a state-like monarchy of the Persian Gulf, with a small number of high-quality indigenous people, and a combination of feasible automation and guest workers. For resource-rent political economies, this is a natural way of life that forms by itself. And an unnamed Zeroed Comrade. now it is solving this problem - halving the population of the Russian Federation by stimulating the extinction of the budget poor and the working class after 40-50 years (when they have already worked for a song in the army, grassroots state employees and in the production of oligarchs), and replacing it with migrants. And all the author's dreams about the USSR 2.0 are the same zealous thought-breaker, like his dreams about the armadas of aircraft carriers and helicopter carriers plowing the vastness of the Russian galaxy;)
    1. +1
      4 September 2021 08: 13
      The resource-rent economy is doomed to be poor. This axiom is beyond doubt and has been confirmed for over 300 years.
      What you write is a direct path of degradation and a poverty-stricken state.
  3. 0
    3 September 2021 17: 40
    Moscow. August 6. INTERFAX.RU

    In the first half of 2021 in Russia, the natural population decline (the excess of the number of deaths over the number of births) increased by 58,9% compared to January-June 2020 and amounted to 421 people against 900 a year earlier, Rosstat said.
    At the same time, the number of births in the first half of 2021 decreased by 0,4% - to 678 112 children from 680 974 a year earlier. The number of deaths in the first half of 2021 increased by 16,2% - to 1 people from 100 people a year earlier.
    As reported, the natural population decline in the country in 2020 more than doubled - to 2 people from 688 people in 700. This indicator became the highest since 316 - then the natural population decline was 200 2019 people.
    According to Rosstat, the population of Russia in 2020 decreased by more than 0,5 million people (due to positive migration, the population decreased slightly less than the natural decline rate), to 146,24 million.
    The population as of January 1, 2021 became the minimum since the beginning of 2014 - then it was 143,7 million, and after the annexation of Crimea at the beginning of 2015, the population of the Russian Federation increased to 146,3 million.
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      -2
      3 September 2021 18: 46
      As reported, the natural population decline in the country in 2020 more than doubled

      Are you talking about the coronavirus or not taking into account the pandemic?
      1. 0
        19 September 2021 23: 24
        Now all the losses are attributed to the "coronavirus" ...
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          +1
          22 September 2021 12: 51
          Now all the losses are attributed to the "coronavirus" ...

          And what do you want to blame the increase in mortality in the pandemic for? Do you have suggestions? To pretend that there is no coronavirus and start telling that this is the government in 2020, the Russian people are strenuously harassing the beginning?
  4. 0
    3 September 2021 17: 45
    Quote: yurvit
    The population as of January 1, 2021 became the minimum since the beginning of 2014 - then it was 143,7 million, and after the annexation of Crimea at the beginning of 2015, the population of the Russian Federation increased to 146,3 million.

    Just over 2 million Crimeans have increased.
  5. -4
    3 September 2021 17: 46
    Quote: whitebeard
    And all the author's dreams about the USSR 2.0 are the same zealous thought-breaker, like his dreams about the armadas of aircraft carriers and helicopter carriers plowing the vastness of the Russian galaxy;)

    My dreams are my dreams, and not with your dirty smelly feet to walk on them smile
  6. -9
    3 September 2021 18: 00
    The whole text of Mr. Marzhetsky was not worthy to read, but the eye caught the author's reasoning that RI would not have stood against the Third Reich. Here there is a complete misunderstanding of the essence of the historical process - if there were no Bolsheviks in power in the former Republic of Ingushetia, the Nazi regime in Germany would not exist. It's elementary, Watson! (C) laughing
    1. +4
      4 September 2021 08: 14
      Once again, they confirmed their ignorance of history.
      1. -5
        4 September 2021 13: 24
        Do you consider yourself an outstanding expert? lol
        1. +1
          4 September 2021 15: 31
          We have already discussed this. There is no point in repeating.
          In this matter, I consider myself an expert. Unlike you.
          1. -5
            4 September 2021 20: 18
            Does anyone else also consider you a connoisseur, or does it not matter to you? bully I will not dispute your point of view - keep it that way, I wish you good health! hi
            1. +1
              4 September 2021 20: 41
              Who else is counting?
              Take a look at the posts. You have minuses, I have pluses. I said before that the pros and cons don't upset me. They just show the attitude towards your fiction. Strictly speaking, 7 people support my point of view.
              I advise you to be a little more responsible when writing comments. And study history. Although, from the previous polemic, I already understood that you do not know her.
              1. -5
                4 September 2021 20: 46
                The pros and cons of visitors to this resource is an argument! Even if I write a well-known truth - for example, that the Volga flows into the Caspian Sea - I will definitely get a couple of minuses from the local public. lol
                1. +1
                  4 September 2021 20: 50
                  This is not an argument, but an indicator.
                  I said that we had a polemic and I see no point in repeating it again. In addition to unfounded statements, you will not be able to confirm your words with anything.
  7. -3
    3 September 2021 18: 19
    The President said, almost by accident, about Mendeleev's calculations 100 years ago, and ...
    Write, write, write articles?

    Question: "How can Russia achieve 500 million population?"
    Answer: "We ..... need .... a project ..... It's time ... to draw ..... conclusions ...."
    Between them there are 2 parts of general geopolitics (good ones, however), and 1 small part of good wishes ...

    That is, in no way. That is, nothing.

    On the contrary, some of the higher ranks under Putin noted that we have up to 30 mile of extra people.
    And the government is working, the population is shrinking even when the country is filled with poorly speaking migrants ...

    Some patriots are very fond of nodding to Yus and the West on every occasion. I wonder if they also write articles there after every Biden's speech? Merkel? Honduras?
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      3 September 2021 18: 53
      Some patriots are very fond of nodding to Yus and the West on every occasion. I wonder if they also write articles there after every Biden's speech? Merkel? Honduras?

      I don’t know what patriotism has to do with it, it’s a normal practice to write articles on speeches by the head of the country.
      Here's a recent about Biden
      https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/16/us/politics/biden-taliban-afghanistan-speech.html?auth=link-dismiss-google1tap

      That's about Merkel
      https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/merkel-afghanistan-105.html

      Lately they are more about Afghanistan and not about demography.
      Who is the third I still do not understand, are you hinting at Zelensky? smile
      1. -1
        3 September 2021 20: 22
        Crowds are standing in line to talk about Zelensky. Here you are right away, just about it.

        About real Honduras. (Etc.), purely for comparison.
        Are they very concerned there? Do they ponder:
        "How can Honduras achieve 500 million of its population and that there is nothing for it?"
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          +1
          3 September 2021 21: 14
          About real Honduras. (Etc.), purely for comparison.
          Are they very concerned there? Do they ponder:
          "How can Honduras achieve 500 million of its population and that there is nothing for it?"

          They are rather concerned about the renaming of the country and how to reach California on foot. Yes
      2. -2
        3 September 2021 20: 28
        I looked. So they are about a hot topic, about Afghanistan.

        And if only Merkel skimmed: "If only Karl's empire had not collapsed, there could have been one and a half milliards of Europeans", everyone also began to think, ohhh, how we are one and a half milliards and everything is uniformly white ...
        1. 123
          +1
          3 September 2021 21: 19
          I looked. So they are about a hot topic, about Afghanistan.

          So they have it relevant, look for earlier articles.

          And if only Merkel skimmed: "If only Karl's empire had not collapsed, there could have been one and a half milliards of Europeans", everyone also began to think, ohhh, how we are one and a half milliards and everything is uniformly white ...

          Uniformly white? Here it is more appropriate to speak about the later leader of the country ... Did you write her down as a follower of the Austrian artist?
          I guess I would have retired early. It is not customary for them to speculate on such topics.
          1. -1
            3 September 2021 21: 37
            I shouldn't have written about homogeneity.
            You were immediately delighted and turned from the "one and a half milliard" to the side, where. "Not accepted ..." because "... an Austrian artist."
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              +2
              3 September 2021 21: 44
              I shouldn't have written about homogeneity.
              You were immediately delighted and turned from the "one and a half milliard" to the side, where. "Not accepted ..." because "... an Austrian artist."

              You shouldn't have remembered about Karl, Germany in its present sense appeared much later.
              It is not entirely clear what analogies you are trying to draw. Do you want to tell us imperial ambitions are hammering our heads?
              1. -1
                4 September 2021 15: 14
                No, you have already guessed it.
                IMHO, clog with distractions.
  8. -2
    3 September 2021 19: 51
    The most effective way is to abolish pension benefits, except for disability and reproductive disorders. This shifts the care of the disabled from the state to relatives and children, simultaneously strengthening family ties. One child will not process his family and elderly parents, and this will inevitably increase the birth rate, as was the case in ancient times and today in underdeveloped countries.
    A more costly and less efficient option is to increase life expectancy, which greatly burdens the budget. The market demands young, smart and healthy, not old and sick.
    Benefits improve living standards, but not fertility. France, Poland and other countries are examples of this.
    Another option is to open borders to migrants from Asia, Africa and South America. For the capitalist, the ethnic and religious affiliation of those who work for him does not matter.
    1. -2
      3 September 2021 21: 50
      this will inevitably increase fertility as it did in ancient times and today in underdeveloped countries.

      Yes, yes, more temples and churches, a lower level of education and everything will be fine.
      I do not mean narrowly specialized vocational education, but rather the ability to reasonably and soberly think, reflect. Someone has already said his time, smart and educated, this is not the same thing.
    2. -1
      4 September 2021 08: 18
      Cannibals were more human.
    3. 0
      4 September 2021 11: 10
      Africans prefer the former metropolises, and Latinos prefer the United States.
  9. +4
    3 September 2021 20: 15
    Finally I read a normal article by Marzhetsky. I was also angered by the interpretation of Putin, with all due respect to him, I just want to say "recruited KGB officer" And Bindyuzhnik: Hitler would have grown up in any case, not for the USSR, but for the Russian Empire, he was still a "battering ram" for Russia.
  10. ksa
    -1
    3 September 2021 21: 07
    600 million of the population - these are the calculations of D.I. Mendeleev. It was based on the rate of population growth in the Russian Empire at the end of the 19th century. But then the revolution, the civil war, the first and second world wars, the collapse of the USSR intervened in his calculations. Each of these events deprived the Russian people of 10 million of the best males. Not a country, but some kind of hellish hole.
  11. +3
    3 September 2021 21: 09
    Let's see under what conditions Russia could count on population growth.
    I see it like this:
    - people have no doubts about a prosperous future
    - trust in the country's leadership, proven by many years of experience
    - belief in the bright future of the country, in its invincibility
    - the confidence of society that a friendly family is a guarantee of a person's personal happiness
    - social morality that has forced individualism to the sidelines of life
    - scientific ideology that unites society and confirms to any educated person the correctness of decisions made in the country
    - the obligatory participation of society in governing the country and making internal political and economic decisions
    The scientific ideology in question cannot be a five-year roadmap.
    The only worthy ideology for all mankind and saving it from destruction is the building of a communist society.
    Much of the above list has long been swept away by the river of time.
    Some of the opportunities were missed LOTS, by those who did not want to risk, by the country's leadership in the 2000s and 2010s. They are also irrevocably carried away.
    But.
    But in this situation, there is something to rely on.
    This above list remains unchanged to this day. This is the time.
    The ideology of building communism is still awaiting its use. This is two.
    In order to even start this path again, you need to overcome solid blockages.
    Which way to get to the beginning of the path is the question that needs to be solved.
    And without delay
    1. 123
      -1
      3 September 2021 21: 39
      Let's see under what conditions Russia could count on population growth.
      I see it like this:
      - people have no doubts about a prosperous future
      - trust in the country's leadership, proven by many years of experience
      - belief in the bright future of the country, in its invincibility
      - the confidence of society that a friendly family is a guarantee of a person's personal happiness
      - social morality that has forced individualism to the sidelines of life
      - scientific ideology that unites society and confirms to any educated person the correctness of decisions made in the country
      - the obligatory participation of society in governing the country and making internal political and economic decisions

      And you are an idealist, I would even say a romantic smile If you do not be offended, I did not want to say anything bad, but it seems that you are preparing a list of wishes for a petition to the management winked
      If anything, this is what the population of Afghanistan looks like. (sorry, picture from Wiki) Pay attention to the age.
      And try your list to them ... Don't you think this is a little about something else?


      The scientific ideology in question cannot be a five-year roadmap.
      The only worthy ideology for all mankind and saving it from destruction is the building of a communist society.

      You may be right, but I'm afraid your ideas will not find mass support in society. We just haven't grown up to that. Like Afghans for democracy and tolerance.

      Much of the above list has long been swept away by the river of time.
      Some of the opportunities were LOSTLY missed by the country's leadership in the 2000s and 2010s, who did not want to risk it. They are also irrevocably carried away.
      But.
      But in this situation, there is something to rely on.
      This list remains unchanged now. This is the time.

      And until 2000, did the country's leadership miss anything?

      Ideology is still awaiting its use. This is two.
      Which way to get there is the question that needs to be addressed.
      And without delay

      Maybe we have been walking in the desert for 40 years? I'm afraid there is no other way request
      1. +2
        3 September 2021 22: 11
        You didn't say anything serious.
        What idealism or romanticism do you see here?
        Our slide into the abyss cannot last forever.
        Even if you are used to it and your conscience has fallen asleep.
        Yes, and what can one hope for who does nothing about it?
        What 40 years? !!!
        If we want to live like a people, we will break free.
        Lost the desire to live? With this, even the Lord himself will do nothing
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          -1
          3 September 2021 23: 20
          What idealism or romanticism do you see here?

          Have you seen the picture? Have you seen the age? There are already over 60 million in Afghanistan, most of them are young people.
          Apparently they have everything in order with confidence in the country's leadership and scientific ideology, and there are no doubts about the future of the country? Are you sure that this is the case?

          Our slide into the abyss cannot last forever.
          Even if you are used to it and your conscience has fallen asleep.

          Conscience did not fall asleep, it died out in those who led us to this bright future, and this happened half a century ago. This "ascent" I saw not on TV. Why are you telling me fairy tales as a schoolboy?

          Yes, and what can one hope for who does nothing about it?

          What exactly do you want to do? Classically, telephone, telegraph, bridges? Or do you hope that people will bring you to power in a peaceful way? I wish you success in the elections good laughing

          If we want to live like a people, we will break free.

          Let's break out where?

          Lost the desire to live? With this, even the Lord himself will do nothing

          How does "Lord" fit in with atheism? Are you an Orthodox communist?
          1. 0
            8 September 2021 13: 29
            I will continue my answers:

            Conscience did not fall asleep, it died out in those who led us to this bright future, and this happened half a century ago. This "ascent" I saw not on TV. Why are you telling me fairy tales as a schoolboy?

            I also saw everything not on TV. Another pair of eyes, another vantage point. Everything you write about, with all the problems of the USSR, has already flowed under the bridge and will not return. Life, all the same, will force to separate the wheat from the chaff.
            Where did you get such a prejudice towards EVERYTHING that was Soviet? Millions of people saw meaning in it and gave their lives for it, if necessary. They were not blind, they saw both absurdities and shortcomings. Nor were they fools.
            It is about using only "grains".
            As for those who led us, even the church does not consider priests to be saints.
            Yes, the control of the society over the leadership was lost. This is a lesson for building a new people's government of the country. Useless if you don't.

            How does "Lord" fit in with atheism? Are you an Orthodox communist?

            I am not a party member, but our Russian reality made me a communist.
            This goes well with faith in God.
            I think that only a communist can, with faith in God, remain intrinsically whole.
            The goals of his material activities are completely the same as the spiritual goals.
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              -1
              8 September 2021 17: 36
              I also saw everything not on TV. Another pair of eyes, another vantage point. Everything you write about, with all the problems of the USSR, has already flowed under the bridge and will not return. Life, all the same, will force to separate the wheat from the chaff.

              This is exactly what I propose to you. Yes Not to idealize, but to figure it out.

              Where did you get such a prejudice towards EVERYTHING that was Soviet? Millions of people saw meaning in it and gave their lives for it, if necessary. They were not blind, they saw both absurdities and shortcomings. Nor were they fools.

              Why do you think so? belay Millions of people in our country saw the meaning and gave their lives under different flags and under different regimes. Are they worse than those who died under the red flag?

              It is about using only "grains".
              As for those who led us, even the church does not consider priests to be saints.
              Yes, the control of the society over the leadership was lost. This is a lesson for building a new people's government of the country. Useless if you don't.

              Was that a lesson and learned it? And what conclusions have been drawn? You propose to step on a rake again and repeat the experiment. Why are you sure that this time control will not be lost? And was there control or is it an illusion?

              I am not a party member, but our Russian reality made me a communist.
              This goes well with faith in God.
              I think that only a communist can, with faith in God, remain intrinsically whole.
              The goals of his material activities are completely the same as the spiritual goals.

              You see what a transformation of beliefs. And what about taking a step back with the state structure, taking into account mistakes, and not blindly acting according to a model that has proven its incapacity?
              1. 0
                13 September 2021 01: 24
                Почитайте еще вот это: https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5fe624c58b9da069054d7540/narodovlastie-v-sovremennoi-rossii-613cd48a75cb7434fe7368ad
      2. 0
        8 September 2021 12: 52
        I must apologize for the harshness in my responses.
        I now have time to answer you in more detail.

        If anything, this is what the population of Afghanistan looks like. (sorry, picture from Wiki) Pay attention to the age. And try your list to them ... Don't you think this is a little about something else?

        Formally, it looks like this. But what does a formal approach give other than saving time?
        I am not part of the Afghan people, but of this people, I have a daughter who was born according to our desire with my wife. I know and feel - what prevents from having children in this country, and what prevented us from having another, or even two. Finally, I have a clear idea of ​​what country I want to live in.

        We just haven't grown up to that. Like Afghans for Democracy and Tolerance.

        And I see something else around me. People would like to find meaning in their present life, but they do not.
        Losing hope. Become indifferent. Cynical.
        Everything is broken up into meaningless corrupt parts that are not connected with each other.
        Nearby is the image of the USSR from memory. Many people still remember him. Yes, there was no ideal in him, but there was meaning, at least in life. The building of communism served as a beacon perfectly.

        And until 2000, did the country's leadership miss anything?

        But he is no longer there. It is useless to call upon a ghost.

        Maybe we have been walking in the desert for 40 years?

        There are irreversible processes of expenditure of many resources of the country's viability. Right before our eyes. Relentlessly. It is strange that you do not see this.
        Here's what immediately comes to mind: a decline in the population, loss of people's faith in their future, growth of indifference and cynicism, degradation of education and science, loss of continuity with previous periods, a drop in trust in the authorities, increasing readiness of enemies for aggression, degradation of the economy, etc. living standards of the population of Siberia and the Far East, retreat from the post-Soviet space, the formation by the West on the borders of bridgeheads and "hot" spots ...
        We are in a real "funnel". That is, the longer we delay, the more efforts and costs it will cost to break out of it. 40 (!) Years - are we allowed such a luxury?
        Where to break out?
        Outward, where you can give up extreme efforts and be aware of your development.

        I'm afraid there is no other way

        NECESSARY in a different way!
        The problem can be solved in two ways:
        You can calmly see what is available for the solution. If you have the necessary components, take it. If not - no, and there is no trial. There is no problem either.
        Alternatively:
        Once the problem MUST be resolved. It means it WILL be solved. It is necessary to urgently look for opportunities, suitable people to solve it. And they will definitely be found. In order to see this, you just need to take the first step.
        People can do EVERYTHING - only will is needed. These are not big words, but the practice of mankind.

        My articles on Zen: https://zen.yandex.ru/profile/editor/id/5fe624c58b9da069054d7540
        Some of them are outdated, but much is still relevant now. I will write as much as possible
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          -1
          8 September 2021 18: 20
          I must apologize for the harshness in my responses.

          You shouldn't apologize, you didn't say anything bad, and I'm not a high school student either, you can't really hurt me with that.

          Formally, it looks like this. But what does a formal approach give other than saving time?
          I am not part of the Afghan people, but of this people, I have a daughter who was born according to our desire with my wife. I know and feel - what prevents from having children in this country, and what prevented us from having another, or even two. Finally, I have a clear idea of ​​what country I want to live in.

          We need to figure out what we are talking about, what kind of life you would like, or specifically about demography. In our country, too, the birth rate used to be different, no worse than the current Afghanistan and living conditions were, to put it mildly, no better than the current ones.
          People have changed, I want prosperity and comfort, and just not to the detriment of him are ready to "multiply". We are not unique, we repeat the path of Europe and Japan. We have less prosperity, but the "symptoms" are the same.

          And I see something else around me. People would like to find meaning in their present life, but they do not.
          Losing hope. Become indifferent. Cynical.
          Everything is broken up into meaningless corrupt parts that are not connected with each other.
          Nearby is the image of the USSR from memory. Many people still remember him. Yes, there was no ideal in him, but there was meaning, at least in life. The building of communism served as a beacon perfectly.

          In my opinion, in the first two paragraphs you described the Soviet past in colors. Have you ever wondered why the "consideration for three" was so massive? Yes, and in my opinion there was enough cynicism. People saw everything, they were told about the construction of communism, but the reality was different.

          But he is no longer there. It is useless to call upon a ghost.

          It turns out that this is not an attempt at an objective assessment, but a "battle cry" that has applied meaning, rather a political slogan.

          There are irreversible processes of expenditure of many resources of the country's viability. Right before our eyes. Relentlessly. It is strange that you do not see this.

          Firstly, I'm not sure that they are irreversible, and secondly, they were spent before.

          Here's what immediately comes to mind: a decline in the population, loss of people's faith in their future, growth of indifference and cynicism, degradation of education and science, loss of continuity with previous periods, a drop in trust in the authorities, increasing readiness of enemies for aggression, degradation of the economy, etc. living standards of the population of Siberia and the Far East, retreat from the post-Soviet space, the formation by the West on the borders of bridgeheads and "hot" spots ...

          We are in a real "funnel". That is, the longer we delay, the more efforts and costs it will cost to break out of it. 40 (!) Years - are we allowed such a luxury?
          Where to break out?
          Outward, where you can give up extreme efforts and be aware of your development.

          Are you seriously? By what methods are you going to get out "outside"? To get out of the funnel, you have to row hard. The funnel is not the first and certainly not the last. How did you get out of the previous ones, remember? Industrialization, post-war reconstruction ... And you want comfort and prosperity and no extreme efforts. Forgive me, you will bend at the oars before you reach a bright tomorrow, as has already happened in history.
          This is our contradiction. On the one hand, we want to get out of the funnel, but on the other hand, we don’t want to row.
          Do you not understand that it is precisely these very desires that are being embodied? We scoop out the funnel, not so quickly "we go on one motor" and the rowers are not bothered by swinging a pick at the construction sites of communism. Yes, just in this way, tell me that it has become worse in 20 years. Demography as an example will not fit, the "pit" was programmed earlier.

          Once the problem MUST be resolved. It means it WILL be solved. It is necessary to urgently look for opportunities, suitable people to solve it. And they will definitely be found. In order to see this, you just need to take the first step.

          Looking for people? Didn't you find them? in my opinion something about the Communist Party wrote ... Rashkin and Grudinin are the same people?
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      3. 0
        8 September 2021 13: 48
        There is one more thing left:

        What exactly do you want to do? Classically, telephone, telegraph, bridges? Or do you hope that people will bring you to power in a peaceful way? I wish you success in the elections

        The transition to the people's government of the country is a radical, but the only solution to practically ALL of our problems.
        Smart authorities have to do it themselves. In a constitutional way.
        Another way - under the leadership of the Communist Party, it seems to me more risky. Because genetic rudiments of the past and present can weigh on the future.
        We need it?
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          8 September 2021 19: 02
          The transition to the people's government of the country is a radical, but the only solution to practically ALL of our problems.
          Smart authorities have to do it themselves. In a constitutional way.

          Not sure. First, there are no universal solutions. Secondly, we have already gone through this. Over time, the people, or rather their representatives in power, strive to become princes and counts, and leave the property "acquired by overwork" to their children and grandchildren. As the Afghans, we have not grown to the level of popular government in this sense of capitalism and democracy.

          Another way - under the leadership of the Communist Party, it seems to me more risky. Because genetic rudiments of the past and present can weigh on the future.
          We need it?

          Here I completely agree with you. Yes, and the current Communist Party of the Russian Federation does not pull the ideal of a bright future.
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      4. 0
        17 September 2021 10: 33
        You may be right, but I'm afraid your ideas will not find mass support in society. We just haven't grown up to that. Like Afghans for democracy and tolerance.

        The root system of the future is now taking shape. So far, only China has remained as a pivot in the communist root; several more countries, according to their ideology, can potentially join it. When all the challenges are resolved, one way or another, Russia will turn on either late, or it is pointless.
        Road spoon for dinner!
  12. 0
    4 September 2021 01: 44
    Thanks for the great article.
  13. 0
    4 September 2021 01: 44
    I believe that even in a hundred years it is impossible to correct the consequences of the destruction by the Bolsheviks and their successors, the Communists, of the gene pool of the Russian population in Russia. The main reason for the decline in population reproduction is not revolution and wars, but the elimination of the family way of life in the city and village. Families in the Russian Empire were large. In the city, four children in the family were common, and in the villages - twice as many. In rural areas, the more children, the more workers, the better the family's survival. Family traditions were also supported by the church. The anti-peasant meaning of Bolshevism as a doctrine and practice of social-class superiority became quite clear to an educated observer in the summer of 1918, after the adoption of the first Constitution of the RSFSR. After all, local Soviets and Congresses of Soviets were elected by the working people on conditions of unequal voting.
    According to the 53rd article X of chapter X of the first Soviet Constitution, one vote of a worker was equal to five votes of peasants. Although the number of the latter was ten times greater ...
    1. 0
      4 September 2021 08: 22
      A peasant country cannot be rich and prosperous. Morgenthau's plan failed. The great agricultural power is barely breathing. The states have never relied on agriculture. This is a direct path to poverty.
  14. -2
    4 September 2021 08: 33
    Quote: steel maker
    It is regrettable that Vladimir Vladimirovich consistently sees

    So the author himself hints at it

    It is regrettable that Vladimir Vladimirovich ....... sees
  15. -1
    4 September 2021 08: 37
    A good way of discussion is to think out for the apponent and then disprove it. Putin said what he said. If it were not for the events of the 20th century, we, according to some experts, would have been approx. 500 million. What's wrong? Of course, the question is how to count? I would count Russia, Kazakhstan, Ukraine and Belarus. I think that not 500, but 400-450 million would definitely be. Back in the 30s, Russian families with 6-7 children were the norm. By inertia. Those. mentality. If not for the idiotic industrialization, then it would have been until the 50s, 60s. Those. if we had socialism with a human face and a smooth transition to capitalism in the 70s - 80s, then now we would be a leading world economic power, which would have established markets for products. And we wouldn't need 500 million.
  16. 0
    4 September 2021 09: 35
    Very simple. To begin with, turn off the Internet, completely.
  17. -1
    4 September 2021 09: 43
    I think that it makes no sense to repeat the numerous mistakes of the USSR-1.
    Besides, our “wild” capitalism managed to solve some of its genetic problems. It makes no sense to go back. Exposure and dispossession - even more so.
    The life and future of the people is the main goal of this turn, and we must start with their interests.
    It is necessary to declare in the country a return to building a communist society.
    Restore the councils of people's deputies, transfer to them the management and control functions in the public sector, the legal system, as well as in the state control of the private sector.
    To begin a smooth transition to socially oriented state capitalism.
    Revise school curricula based on the ultimate goal and an intermediate goal - building a new type of socialism.
    This is not all, but you need to start with the “core” questions.
    It is better for the country that these changes are carried out by the existing government. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation, in its current form, is not suitable for this - it is "sharpened" for a return to the old, therefore, the organs of people's administration must reform it.
    In general, the entire system of parties must be completely reborn and become part of the system of popular government.
    Internationally, an ideologically unified bloc should be formed from Russia, Belarus and China.
    1. -1
      4 September 2021 16: 31
      An ingenious thought and essentially correct - we need to be friends with China, but even according to the article, China has become self-sufficient in terms of the economy and social processes - it only needs resources. Look at the map of China - it looks like our map - a strip of cities around the wastelands. For cities to live, resources are needed - China is actively climbing the Ukrainian black earth and eagerly glances at our Siberia. We can agree with the Chinese on the resources of Siberia, but if there are more than 20-40 percent of the indigenous population in, for example, Novosibirsk or Tyumen, who also not all since the time of Ermak consider themselves Russian, we, as a state, will lose all of Siberia. Because you can make Russian out of Chinese only in the third generation with a systematic and stable program of demography and education.
      1. 0
        4 September 2021 22: 22
        First of all, we need this turn ourselves.
        The building of communism, in fact, absorbs, unites, and gives meaning to all the changes that we want to see in our current life. For many reasons, it is organic to our people, in contrast to capitalism.
        However, in addition to this, it creates the basis for finding true friends - "in spirit."
        We are lonely in this aggressive, uncomfortable world and we look with envy at rich China. And we are wrong.
        Communist China - one, like a finger, in the ocean with sharks.
        China's economic self-sufficiency is just an "emergency" regime for it and does not guarantee anything.
        The ideology of building communism is unique, because even the ultimate goal of development of such countries that are part of the union, in principle, does not contain the possibility of their antagonism.
  18. +1
    4 September 2021 09: 52
    Why doesn't he tell how many people have been killed in 30 years and continue to destroy ...
  19. 0
    4 September 2021 16: 16
    Dear interlocutors, statistics can be considered, these are bare numbers at the moment. But there is a real dynamic - migration, at least. It is changing very quickly - either we have a brain drain, or an influx of migrants whose children are already oppa! - new brains.
    There are also general impressions of the world around me - the Moscow region, the kindergarten I attended, has been expanded. Now they are expanding the school. This may be the rise of our demographic curve, which, as the presidential advisers correctly point out, looks like a mad sine wave, but the fact is, today there are more children! My generation, those who survived in the 90s, seeing stability in the country - why not give birth to a second one? And young families - two at once, and some of my friends add another third from the shelter.
    This leads to the fact that our nation is rejuvenating, and the Chinese, with their huge population and fertility policies, first forbade their second child because they cannot feed them, but now they have to shout! For there is no one to work.
  20. -4
    4 September 2021 20: 32
    Poor Soviet people (((What could they see and earn during their life, which took place within the cage of the Iron Curtain? there was everything and, moreover, the real thing (food, clothing, cars, equipment), only this was several orders of magnitude higher in quality and was an unattainable dream for a simple Soviet person who had no cronyism! and poorly lives in a scoop, where there was no elementary concept of private property, but people with their human rights were always in last place. The state put on top of them. Why do they need various benefits of civilization? And so it will come down! All the main resources and forces were thrown on the development of the arms race in order to win the Cold War, but we lost it anyway! PS But our people who had never seen anything in life thought that they lived the best on the plan those :) And some still think so ..
    1. 0
      5 September 2021 02: 48
      What is this burp of 1990 progressive liberalism doing here and now? I thought all of them had already either died of hunger without hamburgers or emigrated to happily wash toilets in diners or sell hamburgers there.
  21. 0
    5 September 2021 18: 20
    Good afternoon!

    The answer to the Author, to the question "what to do?":

    1. It is necessary to create a completely new ideology - I invite you to familiarize yourself with such a project: https://ideologia.obrazslov.ru/

    2. Change the principles of taxation (there is such a fundamental article in the Tax Code of the Russian Federation) - the goal is to reduce the social costs of rent (the main reason for the low birth rate): https://ideologia.obrazslov.ru/2018/01/novaa-ekonomika.html
  22. 0
    6 September 2021 16: 00
    While Putin has been raising Russia from its knees for 20 years, China has already risen to its feet
  23. 0
    11 September 2021 17: 32
    The most important question is WHY? To breed unemployed ??? Considering, firstly, the ever-decreasing production, and secondly, even at the enterprises that remain in operation, less and less personnel are needed. Mechanization and automation, however!
  24. -1
    19 September 2021 23: 42
    A strange question "how to achieve" ... Ask Drozdov, he will talk about the natural processes in the animal world in wildlife, which is so arranged that before any couple has offspring, it must find a suitable housing with a good food supply and living conditions for the younger generation, then you will find the answers to your similar questions ... What do we have for today? Young people live with their parents, if they are lucky they live separately, but there are not so many such lucky ones ... A mortgage can really be taken responsibly about 40% ..., but at the same time falling into a long bondage with a cut in their current income ... Rent private traders who are sometimes unpredictable and rather greedy will also take away most of their current income, depending on the mood of homeowners ... The primitive policy of "compulsory home ownership" with acquisition through purchase / mortgage leads to constant postponement of the birth of children "until better times" ... And where is it really possible to talk about the resettlement of young people in developing regions, unless again a kind state donates housing in a new place ... So we have what we have ...
  25. 0
    25 November 2021 12: 59
    Well, they don't want to. They really want to, but they can't. How did it all start in (in) Ukraine? They wanted Ukraine to join the customs union. But the West did not allow this to be done. And the USSR 2.0 will not exist without this country.
  26. 0
    5 February 2022 18: 27
    Switzerland is fundamentally not a member of any political or economic association, not even a member of the UN, but in pre-Covid 2018 exported goods worth 486 billion dollars a year against Russian exports of 449 billion. Is it worth recalling that the population of the two countries is quite differ - they have 9 million and we have 146 million. And the structure of exports is somewhat different, they do not have raw materials and hydrocarbons, but technically complex goods with high added value dominate (I would say ultra-high value-added about watches and jewelry). Poor Swiss, they do not have enlightened economists who can explain to them how flawed they are. The same bad luck, for example, in South Korea and even little-recognized Taiwan.
  27. 0
    5 February 2022 21: 39
    Firstly, I don’t want to remember the proverb about a bad actor. the reason for the demographic crisis is that the total impoverishment of the 90s was quietly replaced by the destruction of family foundations. people stupidly ceased to be fruitful and multiply. give birth to one - and that is good, and that is enough. if two - then super-well done. three are already heroes with many children.
    secondly, look at our cities. they seem to be "sharpened" for the population that we have. well, imagine any ordinary city whose population is suddenly x2? Instead of 300 thousand - 600?!? Imagine this housing, infrastructure and road hell? The increase in the population, like any creative process, is not a quick, painstaking task. If, of course, we want to build a national, civil state and society. If not, then please write out these polls from the same Asia and Africa. They will come. And in a year in this country, Russian and Russian will be difficult to discern even in the most powerful sociological microscope. But I still want my country to be called Russia! And so that the Russians in it were not some kind of statistical component, but a concrete, living, numerous and prosperous people!
  28. 0
    15 May 2022 15: 40
    It is necessary to introduce millions of 200 m2 of housing annually at a rate of, say, 18 sq.m per person. And build somewhere in Southern Siberia, in Kamchatka and the Khabarovsk Territory. Build individual houses from reinforced concrete panels for example. It's worth every penny. Provide family and work benefits to those in need. The country has enough raw materials to feed 500 million people. It is also necessary to prohibit people with incomes above the minimum abortion, improve medicine. We need propaganda for large families with 3-4 children, and not for LGBT people, drugs and suicides. It also needs someone like Gorbachev not to spoil everything ;)

    Everything is solved, and the authorities are doing things in this direction.