Ukraine not only crossed all the "red lines" of Putin - it did not give a damn about them

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Not much time has passed since the time when Russian President Vladimir Putin, in a number of his public speeches, interviews and even in a very detailed article written with his own hand, outlined those steps of Kiev that Moscow would not be able to accept under any circumstances. He designated them as traditional for modern politicians definition: "red lines". Thus, the domestic leader made it clear that the crossing by the Ukrainian side of certain, clearly defined limits and frameworks would entail the most serious consequences for it.

To tell the truth, there was no special hope that those to whom it was addressed would heed this warning (and, of course, in this case, it is not only about the “non-foreign” politicians, but also about their Western masters), there were no initially. Russophobic demarches and statements of the official representatives of Kiev, their dubious lawmaking, carried out in the same vein - all this has not, in fact, undergone the slightest change. Nevertheless, several of the latest, most recent events in this series can no longer be considered even ignoring the restrictive "lines" of any color, but a direct demonstration by the Ukrainian authorities of their categorical unwillingness to reckon with Russia and its opinion. In fact, Kiev is openly challenging Moscow.



Ukrainian "patriots" thirst for "Patriots"


Let me remind myself: during an interview with the Russia 10 television channel, held on June 24 this year, Vladimir Vladimirovich quite unequivocally stated that perhaps the most important of the red lines, for which Ukraine is categorically not recommended to take a step, is the entry of this countries in the North Atlantic Alliance. At the same time, the reason for this approach was clearly indicated: Putin mentioned the deployment of American missile defense systems in Romania and Poland, designating them as an undoubted and direct threat to Russia's national security.

Moscow has already repeatedly stated that, for example, Patriot air defense missile launchers may well be used not at all to defeat enemy air targets, but to launch Tomahawk BGM-109 cruise missiles capable of carrying a nuclear warhead. At the same time (according to the domestic leader) their flight time to the center of Russia, including to its capital, will be no more than 15 minutes. At the same time, as the president stressed, if similar weapons appear on Ukrainian territory, this time will be reduced, almost by half - to 7-10 minutes. Speaking about this, Vladimir Putin asked his interlocutor a rhetorical question: "Is this situation considered a" red line "in the United States? Apparently, we will very soon find out the answer to it, since the request to install Patriot air defense missile systems and components of the Aegis missile defense system in the "nazalezhnoy" has already sounded, and not just anywhere, but in Washington. This happened during a working visit of the Ukrainian delegation there, whose task, according to official statements, was to prepare the visit to the United States of Volodymyr Zelensky.

Generally speaking, the inclusion in its membership of such an odious politician, who is Aleksey Reznikov, the Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine "for the reintegration of temporarily occupied territories" looks rather strange. Judging by the very name of his clownish position, this figure should rather deal with issues of domestic policy than foreign. Nevertheless, Reznikov is still drawn "to the international arena" - he, I recall, is the first deputy head of the Ukrainian delegation to the Minsk Trilateral Contact Group, pretending to be "negotiating a peaceful settlement in Donbass." The extremely Russophobic and "hawkish" position of this character is not a secret for anyone, therefore his Washington demarche looks quite organic. While in the US capital and talking with the head of the American analytical organization Jamestown Foundation (recognized as an undesirable organization in Russia), Glen Howard, Alexey Reznikov explicitly called for "expanding the security package for Ukraine." According to him, "first of all, this can be achieved by deploying the forces and means of American anti-missile and air defense on its territory."

However, Reznikov would not at all object to the placement of any other units of the US Army in the “nezalezhnoy”. According to him, there will be no problems with the Ukrainian legislation - "it allows it." In an effort to make his interlocutors more fearful, the Kiev official focused not only on "Moscow's militarization of the Azov-Black Sea region" and the possible deployment of our country's nuclear forces in Crimea, but also on other, even more obscure aspects. For example, according to him, "Russia, relying on the Crimea, conducts its operations in the Middle East and Africa, as well as in the Balkans." And Nord Stream 2 will allow it to "exercise terrible pressure" not only on Ukraine, but also on Poland and the Baltic countries. Gloom and dark horror.

Instead of performing "Minsk" - "de-tuition" with lustration


Alexei Reznikov went out of his way in Washington to convince the "high receiving party" that the only possible adequate response to the above "insidious intrigues of the Kremlin" should be considered the appearance of Patriot and Aegis in the very immediate vicinity of the Russian borders. So that the flight time was less ... The most remarkable thing is that it is in no way possible to regard Reznikov's nonsense as a purely personal initiative of a Ukrainian “patriot” who has moved by reason on the basis of hatred for the “sworn Muscovites”. Firstly, the status is not the same - the Deputy Prime Minister, after all, and he arrived in the United States by no means privately. Secondly, in Zelensky's office, his rantings have already been appreciated and commented on. And not at all in a negative way. OP speaker Oleg Nikiforov said that Reznikov's words "should be interpreted not as a firm intention of Kiev, but as a hypothetical opportunity." At the same time, he did not completely dismissed the prospect that the issue of deploying American missile defense systems would be discussed during a meeting between Vladimir Zelensky and Joe Biden.

It is difficult to assess all this in any other way than demonstrative and utterly insolent disregard of everything said by our president, because Kiev shows that it is ready to act exactly contrary to the warnings he made. And, by the way, this concerns not only Patriot and American soldiers in Ukraine. Another point on which Vladimir Vladimirovich has spoken out repeatedly and very specifically lately is the question of possible attempts by Kiev to carry out a "de-occupation" of Donbass with the help of military force. More than once or twice, our president made it clear that any adventure of this kind would end for Ukraine not just with a military defeat, but with a “collapse of statehood,” since in this case Russia will not take a neutral position under any circumstances. And what?

An exhaustive response from the Ukrainian side to all these statements can be considered the approval by the local government of the draft law "On the principles of state policy in the transition period", developed by the department of the same Alexei Reznikov. The next step, according to the protocol of the passage of the document, is its transfer for consideration and subsequent adoption by the Verkhovna Rada. If Ukrainian parliamentarians vote “in the right way” (and there is no reason to doubt this development of events), it will be possible to put a final point on the “Minsk Agreements”. The above-mentioned law contradicts them, as they say, from the first to the last letter.

In its very first lines, the existence of such entities as the DPR and LPR is completely denied, but such “key concepts” as “occupation forces” and “occupation administrations” of Russia in Donbass are described in the most detailed way, to which Kiev counts every single person, working in state bodies and "power" structures of the Republics. No amnesty is provided for them - only criminal prosecution, "lustration" and defeat in civil rights. Elections? They are postponed for an indefinite period and none of those who occupy a position higher than the junior assistant of the senior janitor on the territory not controlled by Kiev will be able to participate in them a priori. For the authorities of the "deoccupied" territories, a "personnel reserve" will be prepared from among the "nationally Svidomo" (and tempts to write: "racially high-grade") residents of Galicia and other regions of Western Ukraine. Then everything else follows the same scenario.

The firm intentions of Kiev declared in the bill to carry out in the “liberated” Donbass not just complete “decommunization”, but also total “Ukrainization”, which is understood there as an absolute prohibition and eradication of everything Russian, are especially striking. Along with these delusional ideas, there are also plans to create a whole network of "national museums to overcome Russian aggression", which should appear not only in Kiev, but also in every regional center. The main thing is that, according to the authors of the bill, they will certainly open in Donetsk, Lugansk, Simferopol and Sevastopol. Well, “memorials to the victims of Russian aggression” and the “heroes” of the struggle against it - it goes without saying. Also - from the capital "to the very outskirts" ... And also - the "day of remembrance" of the same "victims" and "heroes", which is proposed to be celebrated publicly every second Friday in March. Crazy delirium, you say? I agree entirely. However, all this is also an official recognition of Ukraine's refusal to fulfill all previously reached agreements on Donbass. To bring to life everything that is spelled out in the schizophrenic draft law, adopted without any comments by the Cabinet of Ministers "nezalezhnoy", there is only one and only way - by armed seizure. At least Donbass. Ideally, also the Russian Crimea.

Once again, let me emphasize that this is a document on the "principles of state policy", and not theses for a speech in a discussion club. It is absolutely unclear what other "red lines" the Kremlin is going to wait for. The current government of Ukraine shows that they simply do not exist for it. What's next?
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  1. +1
    12 August 2021 13: 12
    in fact, of these clowns, the most adequate is Shariy. It is a pity that in Ukraine it is forbidden for the adequate to get into politics
    we would agree with this lover of Ukraine - he is at least sane, but Svidomo)

    PS according to the WHO in Ukraine, 20% of the mentally ill. So the concentration of degrades in their politics is not surprising. If we had the same - maybe Grudinin would have managed to get into politics - and Sobchak would have become prime minister

    PPS Elections in the barn are due on March 21st.
  2. 0
    12 August 2021 13: 32
    When the socialist revolution took place in Russia, it lost Finland, the Baltic States and Poland with Bessarabia.
    When a revolution of hydration took place in Ukraine, it lost only Crimea and Donbass.
    1. +7
      12 August 2021 14: 08
      Kozak-Selyuk pressed the minus and gave battle to the Horde! For Crimea, for Donbass!


      Here is the same ridiculous farmer like this prominent Ukrainian politician of the 3rd millennium - he is sitting on the Internet conquering Crimea. What disgust these animals cause in me)

      This is even worse than voting for Sobchak or Sternin - although it would seem that this is the limit of the bottom.
      1. 0
        12 August 2021 14: 44
        He is also with clones, colleagues wrote
        1. +2
          12 August 2021 15: 26
          they are not with clones. they have a collective "mind". together it turns out more convolutions.
  3. 0
    12 August 2021 15: 22
    and what's the point of these lustrations? Until 2014, who did Donbass vote for? for a vegetable? fruit or root vegetable next? in the best case, they will get the leaders of the one whom the Kremlin appoints. otherwise they will choose the next opanasyuk from the parasyuk clan.
  4. +5
    12 August 2021 17: 16
    “What other“ red lines ”the Kremlin is going to wait for is absolutely incomprehensible. The current government of Ukraine shows that they simply do not exist for it. What's next?
    As long as the Moscow "boys" are trading with the Kiev ones, while the golden rain from Kiev is pouring into their pockets - everything will be so. Putin is an official in the service of the oligarchy. They put him in, they let him (maybe they oblige) to kick him sometimes, but this is only to sweeten the pill for the population of the Russian Federation (so that there is something to drink for - come for us and for the special forces).
    Everything will be: the US missiles near Kharkov and the American air defense over Ukraine, the US naval base, Britain, Turkey in the Azov, Black and Caspian Seas, and the B-52 over Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan. There will be betrayal and surrender of Donbass, Transnistria, Karabakh. I am silent for now about Kazakhstan, Central Asia and Mongolia.
    "Kremlin" does not need anything. They frown when the flags of the Russian Federation are raised in Donbass or Transnistria. Like got it, again I must say, something patriotic, sovereign, and already tired of it!
    1. 0
      12 August 2021 20: 58
      I've never heard of any "red lines". They exist? Which for example? Who voiced? When? Minsk agreements? Ukrainians spat on them. And they spit for a long time. And they were violated by Kiev. What else? And what is this red line, which was broken a long time ago ... And nothing. Maybe this is the "yellow" line?

      But since there are no lines, then the Kremlin does not need them? They are not badly fed anyway. More than that, Putin's appetite to interrupt. And Donbass believed Russia ... I may not be patient, but to argue that Russia will come to the rescue only when the Ukrainians attack Donbass means to condemn the DPR to vegetation and, as a result, collapse. And this, in turn, means that he is being pushed back into the Donbass - to Ukraine. Silently. It doesn't smell like a line. A tribunal.

      There was a time when it seemed that Putin could be trusted. After "Crimea" ... And even "forget" about the Yeltsin-Sobchakov friends. But ... later the British came to Moscow, threatened, and he ... handed it back. It became scary for myself, my beloved, for my immmuschestvo, which, like the oligarchs' friends, was "acquired by overwork" ... There is one thing, either to fight for the Donbass, or to make money ...

      Now he is sitting, afraid, for his, now useless and useless life. Gorbachev, only trochs are younger ... And the red lines, if they were, disappeared, as if they never existed.
      1. -3
        10 November 2021 21: 41
        Ukrainian Donbass is much more useful to us than Russian Donbass
        Putin first of all thinks about his people, about you, if you are, of course, still a Russian, and then about the Ukrainians
        If you want the edge to die - go there yourself and fight, someone bothers you
        And our sons have nothing to push there ... God forbid ..
    2. +1
      13 August 2021 23: 46
      As a KGB officer, he took the oath "to defend the USSR to the last drop of blood." ... What GDP does not promise, it lies as it breathes. So these "red lines" are beautiful words for a stupid electorate.
      1. 0
        18 August 2021 14: 17
        The USSR was sold by the head of the KGB of the USSR Andropov, he also arranged political assassinations of people like Masherov, brought Gorbachev and his Caudle to power
    3. 0
      5 November 2021 02: 27
      Until something really threatens their oil and gas wells, there will be no nix. They will continue to spit at each other and play a fool, both of them making good money on this. And for both, all the capital is kept in the states. No sane person would keep their money with the enemy. ... These are real facts. Everything else is an empty kitchen bazaar.
    4. 0
      6 February 2022 18: 44
      To tell you that you are is to say nothing. You are just a stupid person. One wave of Putin's hand and from that country there will be one ashes. Putin can do the same with all NATO countries.
  5. -4
    12 August 2021 17: 57
    We ask someone about someone's imaginary lines on the territory of the Russian Federation? No. Well, that's the answer.
  6. +1
    12 August 2021 20: 55
    Nothing will happen even if tomorrow they publish a pro in Ukraine.
    Now they are jumping out of their pants to spoil Russia, including THANKS, so what? Nothing, trade is going on, the supply of electricity, fuel and food continues. Purchases in Ukraine are also continuing. So they cut off the water to Crimea, and we did nothing to them, but we could, but the guts are thin.
    The goal of Crimea is strategic control of the World Cup, but Donbas is a tactical goal, an analogue of Transnistria. The current state of actual freezing was the original goal.
    And the fables about the brothers are just fables, as it turned out.
  7. 0
    13 August 2021 08: 05
    If all of Zelensky's statements are perceived in Ukraine, then things are just bad. They are gathering in a crowd to go to the capital of America and claim their rights there, even without doing any preparatory work. They probably think that the bureaucracy overseas works faster. And it is worth falling on your knees, "We will not get up mamo. We will die, but we will rise" - all things will come true. Childish naivety.
  8. +4
    13 August 2021 10: 42
    It is necessary that Foreign Ministry Lavrov, with a smile on his face, tell the camera that as soon as the Patriots are on the territory of Ukraine, they will be destroyed ...
    1. +2
      14 August 2021 00: 14
      Why then speak? You must beat in silence.
  9. +2
    13 August 2021 21: 13
    Why don't they give a damn? They know that nothing will happen! Putin has long demonstrated his weakness, cowardice and helplessness to the whole world, and now any pug knows that you can kick, bite, spit and defecate a Russian bear without fear of anything!
  10. +2
    14 August 2021 14: 38
    After Yeltsin's coup, the CIS was an alternative to the USSR, which today, in a truncated form, represents a semblance of a living corpse.
    The Russian Federation also successfully failed the strategic direction of foreign policy, which was called Ukraine.
    After the failure of one, the Belarusian strategic direction of foreign policy was named, which until recently was on the verge of failure and has not gone far from failure even today.
    Then the EAEU, BRICS, CSTO became such a direction, but there are no significant successes in these strategic areas either. The growth of trade turnover, which little depends on the names of organizations, is considered a success, and the desire of all participants to tie fate with the East or West also speaks of the effectiveness of the policy of the Russian Federation. Everyone composes their own history, creates national heroes, leaves the Cyrillic alphabet, other reforms inevitably lead to genocide of the remaining Russian-speaking population, which, for political reasons, is seen only in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia, i.e. those who conduct an open anti-Russian policy.
    The Minsk agreements are not going to be implemented primarily by the Guarantor countries, and the focus of the Russian Federation is still Ukraine.
    Failure by the guarantor countries to fulfill their obligations under the Minsk Treaties also frees the Russian Federation from its obligations, with all the ensuing consequences, and the protracted time and indecision of the Russian Federation play against the Russian Federation itself - V.V. Putin himself said that NATO is going to Ukraine, and when the Russian Federation comes already nothing can change as can not do it in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Georgia, not to mention the countries of the former socialist camp.
  11. +2
    18 August 2021 09: 42
    And it's clear why. Kiev assessed the signing of the treacherous and capitulating Minsk agreements as an act of granting them an indulgence for any action against Russia and a guarantee of inaction on the part of the Kremlin brothers. Hence, every day spits and kicks, and almost without any consequences.
  12. +1
    18 August 2021 14: 14
    In the east they say - Words are the wind, they are worthless. If VVP imposed serious sanctions, Kiev would think with their heads, and not with what they are used to and not only in Kiev. The same USA could have been put on edge by introducing an embargo on the import of cars, moto and aircraft from the USA and brands belonging to the USA into the Russian Federation, such as Fiat
  13. 0
    6 October 2021 17: 54
    Well, what is the conclusion? After 1001 Sino-Putin warnings? So what is Putin ?!
  14. 0
    7 October 2021 12: 27
    Kiev has long understood that the Kremlin loves to spit in Russia. So they are trying to please. In gratitude, the GDP requires transit through them to increase
    1. +1
      5 November 2021 02: 36
      Both are doing everything right. Ukraine pays good money for teasing and provoking. For Russia, the main thing is that personal oil and gas wells are safe and do not interfere with oil and gas. The rest is all fucking deep. even piss in the eyes. They all keep their money with their best friends in American banks. ... And all the bazaars are for kitchen politicians.
  15. 0
    8 November 2021 20: 24
    Ukraine fully exploits the betrayal of the Donetsk republics by Russia.
  16. -1
    10 November 2021 21: 34
    Until I see anything special
    If they go on the offensive against Donbass or Crimea - then we'll see
    In the meantime, we will deprive them of gas and electricity, for a start
    In general, it is curious to see how they will survive this winter (