Russia does not have such missiles, and is not expected

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In the next decade, the Russian space industry will face serious competition. More than a dozen new medium-heavy, heavy and super-heavy launch vehicles will appear in the world. Our rivals will be not only traditionally Americans and Europeans, but also Chinese and Japanese. And, unfortunately, so far our prospects are not as good as is commonly believed.


Russian missiles remain disposable, while new-generation launch vehicles developed in the United States of America are created as reusable or partially reusable. Also, unfortunately, domestic products remain more archaic: in fact, we are talking only about the deep modernization of old Soviet engines. Kerosene will be used as fuel in the widely publicized Angara, which is a big step forward in avoiding toxic heptyl. But in the US, rocket engines are being actively developed on a more promising and high-quality fuel in the form of methane and hydrogen. In Russia, the creation of their own analogue of a methane engine has just begun, and the first results can be expected no earlier than in 3-4 years.



What will Roskosmos really demonstrate in the next decade?

At first, this is the Angara rocket family. The advantages include the modularity of its design and greater environmental friendliness, compared to the old "Protons". The disadvantages are a greater cost than a direct competitor in the person of Falcon 9, and a small “plaque”. Its engines are a modernization of the old RD-170, in fact, a more simplified version of the RD-180 that they sell to the Americans.

SecondlyThis is Soyuz-5, also the modernization of Soviet developments. The launch cost is estimated at $ 35 million; it will be able to launch up to 18 tons into orbit. It is assumed that its first stage will be used to create a Russian heavy-class rocket. It is obvious that Soyuz-5 and Angara will be the main workhorses of Roscosmos for many years.

What can competitors oppose?

Most US space projects:

Boeing Corporation is developing a superheavy rocket SLS with an aim to reach the moon and Mars. SLS is expected to be widely used for NASA missions. The first flight is scheduled for 2020.


Private American company Blue Origin is creating a rocket called New Glenn. Its carrying capacity will be 45 tons. Already signed 8 contracts for commercial launches.


The main competitor of Blue Origin is SpaceX. The company Ilona Mask creates a heavy Falcon Heavy rocket, as well as a superheavy Big Falcon Rocket. It was announced that the latter will be able to comfortably deliver up to hundreds of passengers to the moon or Mars. The first launch is scheduled for 2022.


The United Lauhch Alliance is preparing a partially reusable Vulcan rocket. Its carrying capacity will be 40 tons. Start is expected in 2020.


The American company Orbital ATK is making the OmegA modular rocket in order to grab its portion of the launch orders from the Pentagon. It will be able to launch up to 8 tons of payload into a geo-transition orbit.


Europeans are preparing a promising Ariane 6 launch vehicle in medium and heavy configurations. The result will be the rejection of the use of Russian Soyuz-ST-B.

The Japanese are developing a rocket under the H3 index with a carrying capacity of 6,5 tons. She will fly in 2020.

A very ambitious project is being developed in China. The Long March 9 rocket will bring up to 140 tons into near-Earth orbit, and fifty tons into geostationary orbit. The Chinese will test their super-heavy missile in 2020 already.

Obviously, the space market is becoming very, very crowded.
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  1. +5
    3 August 2018 12: 57
    What will Roskosmos really demonstrate in the next decade?

    "Rogozin's trampolines", if the approach to the appointment of managers does not change ... Previously, any design bureau was headed by a general constructor! He knew in which direction to move, there was a vision of the way ... And now he is sitting at the head, sitting out, manager!
    "There is no one to work - only managers in the country!"
    1. 0
      10 December 2018 13: 51
      I subscribe to every word! +++
  2. 0
    3 August 2018 13: 09
    Quote: Logall
    There is no one to work - only managers in the country!

    And the lawyers ...
    1. 0
      10 December 2018 13: 52
      To the point! +++
  3. +1
    3 August 2018 14: 08
    On the old principles of the distribution of gas flows on the blades of turbines, it is impossible to build rocket engines of high payload. Therefore, everyone boasts that they are developing new engines, but in fact do not change the fundamental foundations of their work.
    1. +1
      4 August 2018 04: 20
      ... everyone is boasting that they are developing new engines ....

      That's it.
      Only the author distorted someone else's opinion, without even going into the essence of what was presented. An article from the category "all-pro-salipolymers" and "we all will die".
      1. 0
        4 August 2018 07: 17
        We're all gonna die someday bully
    2. +2
      5 August 2018 15: 27
      Quote: gridasov
      It is impossible to build high payload rocket engines on the old principles of distributing gas flows on turbine blades

      And what, turbojet engines are installed on space rockets? If possible, more on that.
      1. 0
        10 December 2018 13: 57
        Turbopumps, where there are turbine blades, pump fuel and, under high pressure, inject into the engine nozzle or into the first combustion chamber!
  4. +4
    3 August 2018 14: 42
    The Americans correctly say that the Russians are not expected to see new missiles. This is not facilitated by the corruption component of power, or the lack of a system for searching for new innovative ideas. And why do something and think about the future if the well-fed lives well, and after me at least a flood. However, everything will be completely different from what even the wisest analysts suggest.
    1. +1
      3 November 2018 18: 03
      The system of searching for innovative ideas - this is the necessary at the beginning of the whole System of Activation of the Mind of Humanity - without which its Mind as such is impossible. (https://cloud.mail.ru/public/4t7w/gXT492EyR, Central Technology). It is not clear why no one talks about this fundamental system - for all its necessity and elementary simplicity! This is just a distinct and generally accessible Argumentation System, uniting the whole society into a single congress, collecting and centralizing all ideas, objectively filtering out inconsistent critics and bringing the best and most breakthroughs to the top.
      All this - the supply of ideas, their evaluation, processing, sorting, putting the best in the top and their development - is done in this System by the forces of the whole human society - as a single team for the arrangement of the whole world that is most favorable for everyone. And only the forces of such a large team can carry out such a huge amount of work on entering and processing all the necessary information.
      This simple Principle System covers all requirements. She will make the human population itself - a qualified manager of her life and her entire world.
    2. +1
      3 November 2018 18: 48
      And you can start this by creating the simplest application "Congress" - the essence of which will be that it will allow everyone to freely discuss any pages on the Internet outside the moderation policy on their sites, bringing these discussions into the appropriate thematic sections in their single structured catalog ...
      He will have the simplest principle of action: you just need to download the application, turn it on and register your browser in it.
      An icon for this application will appear in the browser, responding to the addresses of any pages that are opened.
      If there is already a discussion of the page being opened in the application, the icon will be green, and if not yet, red.
      Clicking on the green icon will simply mean switching to this discussion.
      Clicking on the red icon will also mean a transition to the discussion of this page at the same time as its creation - entering the page address into a single application registry.
      Now for others, the icon of this page will already be green - meaning that its discussion in the application is already there.
      In short, it doesn’t matter if the icon is red or green - clicking on it brings you to a remote discussion of this page and becomes either its first commentator or one of them.
      With this application, in which the principle of self-moderation will operate (blocking someone is possible only for himself, but not for others), no bans will be scary, and there will be no need to register anywhere (except for the application itself, of course) to comment on what anywhere and anywhere on the internet.
      And knowing that in it the discussion is always a priori free, and not just in the right way and for the elite, everyone will prefer to comment there. That is, it is in it that a huge number of people will be centralized. With this, it will attract users, create on its site a single public Congress in which it will be possible to centrally discuss anything. And in the short term of its development - to make personal authorization in it and implement the above-mentioned Argumentation System - which will make any discussion in it productive in terms of its results. This will already mean the beginning of the System necessary to activate the Mind of human society itself. Further it will remain to bring this System to its full-scale, most convenient for all users look - when everyone can simply find the technological section they need and place their idea in the corresponding branch - which will be processed by those who are also interested in this topic, or by raising their own rating (if the idea is worthwhile and feasible) or not (if the team of its critics wins in the Argumentation System).
  5. +1
    4 August 2018 09: 15
    Quote: UralRep
    We're all gonna die someday bully

    We really will all die, but there is a driving force that stimulates the desire of people who live a short century to explore this world and leave behind achievements and discoveries of even a very small scale. Yes, we live relative to astronomical processes for only one instant. But apparently someone needs our very existence and it is maintained and preserved. Maybe our simplicity and imperfection are the force that consists in the desire to develop and improve.
  6. 0
    4 August 2018 20: 59
    But in general: "Chef! Everything is lost! The client is leaving, on Monday they remove the plaster!"
  7. +3
    5 August 2018 10: 46
    Oh, this eternal Russian mentality - to pray for everything Western. In the 19th century, the Russian nobility (even the language does not turn to "Russian") were even shy to speak Russian. Well, the nobility is sick with "Europeanness" and that's it, even the country in the 90s was sacrificed and destroyed in order to be in the "family" of perverts. I mean, why do we need reusable rockets? Reusable engines can and does make sense, and this is due to the resource of the engines themselves (the operation of the engine when returning to the old one, this is a waste of resources) and the costs associated with re-preparation for flight. I think that all these questions at the amateur level are similar to laughter.
    1. +2
      5 August 2018 21: 19
      Quote: bratchanin3
      Reusable engines can and does make sense, and this is related to the resource of the engines themselves (engine operation when returning to the old, this is a waste of resource)

      Elon Musk is going to do just that: to return not the entire stage, but only the RD. And this is because even with the transfer in 1997 of all those documentation on the RD-180, the ama were not able to "repeat" it at home with all their technological power. And that's what they get "repite" in propane-hydrogen engine - this is an interesting question! If we take into account what super high requirements are imposed on hydrogen engines, then after shaking and somersaults during landing, they can only be disassembled into components. And it's not a fact that after all the perturbations they will be 100% reliable to carry 40 tons of payload into orbit at a price equal to the weight of gold ... Something like that, however. hi
  8. Ke
    +3
    5 August 2018 14: 31
    I heard a ring, but don’t know where he is.
    There is such a thing as material fatigue strength.
    Disposable more reliable.
    I would have learned physics or something, but American programs in my head.
    1. +1
      12 August 2018 16: 37
      How do Boeing liners fly for 20 years?
      Do they have metal engines, wings, fuselage does not get tired?
      Disposable plastic spoons and toothpicks only ...
  9. +4
    6 August 2018 13: 59
    They are building heavy-duty missiles to save the world elite from a nuclear winter! With the help of these missiles, they will put into orbit the blocks of the future huge orbital station, then they will assemble everything in space and it's ready. And why do we need such a topic? Nuclear or ordinary, winter is winter, in my area for eight months, and for about two months there is no sun at all, the polar night is called! Instead of rockets and orbital stations, we are building Yeltsin centers, the man who killed our dreams! We were the first in space and all pissed off .... Jura I'm sorry.
  10. +1
    8 August 2018 10: 08
    how do you hate your people and the achievements of the motherland. Horror! While America flies on our engines. And it is not known what lies secret in the bins of our homeland.
  11. +4
    10 August 2018 13: 00
    The bad thing is that our private owners are charged only for quick income and are completely absent in the space industry and not only. They collect cream in oil and gas projects, and the state, officials, whose sweaty hands are in these industries, indulge in this. You just need to cut off a part of the huge revenues from these sectors in favor of the state and social programs, but make tax breaks for those entrepreneurs who make long or long investments in our economy, including in the space industry.
    1. 0
      6 November 2018 18: 01
      our private owners are charged only for quick income

      Have you ever extracted oil to write such nonsense!
  12. +1
    28 October 2018 11: 43
    The author deliberately distorts the facts or does not completely own the topic
    "Its engines are a modernization of the old RD-170" - The RD-170 family is one of the most efficient engines in the world.
    There is no point in looking for good from good.
    The task of the Angara (RD-191) and Soyuz-5 (RD-171MV) is to ensure the lunar expansion of Russia and the entire list of tasks in near space.
    To do this, you just need to launch high-quality rockets, and not engage in innovation.

    RD-170 can provide up to TEN missile launches. For this, the URM (universal missile module) must be returned to the ground. Several options are being worked out how to do this.

    Our problem is not that we need to return the URM, but that we need to build a new Vostochny spaceport (since Baikonur is in Kazakhstan). Now a site for the Angara is being built, and later a site for the Union-5 will be built.
    By the time the spaceport is built, the option of landing steps will already be chosen.

  13. +2
    6 November 2018 18: 00
    Over a dozen new medium-heavy, heavy and super-heavy launch vehicles will appear in the world

    We have heard this for many years, but they fly to the ISS on the Soyuz. Where is the "great" Saturn-5, why can't they "again" do it? Or is it impossible without a Sturmbannfuehrer?
  14. 0
    3 December 2018 21: 40
    It is immediately clear that the author is the same all-rounder, like many commentators. To make a new rocket engine, let alone an aircraft, is not a digital video player or even an airliner. These are years of calculations and most importantly, successful trials. And successful ones are always announced in the media all over the world. So where is the news about these successes? One chatter has been around this for more than a decade: ah Elon Musk, ah Boeing, ah Chinese ... With their sudden calculations, the Chinese are forced to flood their orbital station. Who is next?
  15. 0
    6 December 2018 12: 24
    Let me remind you that the "Buran" used hydrogen fuel.
    1. +1
      7 December 2018 10: 42
      The technologies used in Buran and Energy have long been lost! And most importantly - there are no living carriers of competencies and technologies!
  16. 0
    15 January 2019 10: 54
    They are going ... planning ... developing. And we have long had and fly. And it seems like the only manned flights to the ISS are carried out. Ah ... don't toss the bags.

    And what is considered a "breakthrough" for China, Japan, Europe and the US comers is a long past stage for us.