"Battle for Minds": China Suffers Ideological Defeat from the United States


It is already obvious that the 2020s will become an era of tough single combat between the United States and China, economic, geopolitical, and, no less important, ideological and semantic. The latter has a much more complex configuration than the former confrontation between America and the USSR, where everything seemed simpler and more straightforward.


The strength of the United States is its as yet not lost ability to flexibly form meanings in each specific historical epoch. The meanings are attractive both for their own nation and for a significant number of people around the world, which ensures a steady flow of immigrants to the New World. Today it is called "soft power", although the phenomenon itself has existed for much longer. "Lighthouse of freedom", "land of [great] opportunities" - these phrases did not appear yesterday - they are decades old.

Today the BLM movement, an innovative "green" economy and an ambitious plan to build state-of-the-art public infrastructure across the country, called the America job plan. The latter is actually an updated edition of Roosevelt's New Deal, as a response to the rapid Chinese successes in a similar area.

In the logic of the nation's renewal, two new states may appear in the United States, after the status of individual territories has changed. Of course, we are talking about the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico, whose residents can finally receive full-fledged representation in Congress. And this, it is worth noting, is almost 4 million people, which mainly vote for the Democrats.

The announced completion of almost twenty years of military campaign in Afghanistan is also a kind of search for new meanings, the turn of eras. If, of course, the Americans really leave this South Asian country forever.

Many analysts have already noticed that in the gathering pace of confrontation between the United States and China, in addition to the obvious geopolitical and economic, it is the ideological component that has become more and more obvious. With the arrival of Joe Biden in the White House, the idea of ​​a global "alliance of democracies", a kind of alternative to the UN, was returned to public discussion.

This is far from a random idea. A significant part of American intellectuals hoped that by becoming an ally of Washington (and in the seventies and eighties this was a fact) and having tasted the fruits of the free market, Beijing would eventually move away from the communist system towards greater democracy and liberalism. After all, this is what happened in the Philippines, South Korea and Taiwan. However, China did not follow the path predicted to it, causing first bewilderment and then the anger of the intelligentsia of Western countries. This was followed by the problems of Hong Kong, Xinjiang and so on.

This is not to say that today's rich China is devoid of its attractiveness. Many third countries gladly accept his investments and assistance. For example, Egypt and Morocco, both of which have the status of Major US Ally outside NATO (along with Israel, Japan, and South Korea), have reportedly started using the Chinese COVID-19 vaccine. And this is a very indicative step.

However, some political few successes. For any superpower, power over minds on a global scale is also important. An attractive image of the country, people, civilization in the world.

And here the current superpower - America - has long been winning on points in terms of demonstrating its own attractiveness to the world. In the nineteenth century, this was the romance of the pioneers of the West, in the twentieth - the shining lights of skyscrapers, jeans, rock and roll, a supermarket packed with goods, in the twenty-first - the culture of the IT communities of Silicon Valley and the adventurism of private space corporations.

What can China oppose to this? The radiance of skyscrapers and the luxury of the consumer society of their coastal metropolises? But Asia has seen it all. In South Korean, Japanese, Singaporean and even partly and in some places - in Malaysian and Thai performance. Obviously, the political system of mainland China does not have any kind of exclusive right to wealth. All the same is possible under different starting conditions and a completely different political regime.

Yes, China always has a good chance to offer a single country in any region of the world a lucrative trade agreement, which happens everywhere. But, as mentioned above, Beijing cannot imagine an image of the future that is attractive to people of different races, nationalities and religious beliefs around the world. And not only the future, but the past too.

Putting it in the language of crude comparisons, people around the world are willing to pose as cowboys from the American frontier. But are there many who want to try on the rags of a Chinese peasant of the Qing dynasty? This is called soft power.

And here China is still inferior, although ironically, half a century ago - in the sixties and seventies of the XX century - radical Maoism enjoyed prohibitive popularity among European and American "leftists".

At the same time, the United States has no problem communicating its own meanings. The American soldier is fighting around the world for more than the abstract ideals of freedom and democracy. These ideals are converted into quite concrete and accessible things - a personal car in the garage of every citizen; stable gasoline and turkey prices for Thanksgiving in every home.

Someone will say that now a number of countries in Europe, Pacific Asia, or the Middle East can boast of a much higher standard of living than the average American. But this prosperity is deceiving. The current wealth of the United Arab Emirates or South Korea completely depends on the world economic and geopolitical situation, and the United States has been forming this very situation for more than a century.

In any case, joining an ideological confrontation where there are already obvious geopolitical and economic contradictions does not bode well for the world (and with it Russia).

Even in the Second World War, there was no such clear division between democracy and dictatorship - not only authoritarian, but even totalitarian regimes stood on the side of the allies. However, now such a decisive division of the world according to socio-political preferences no longer seems impossible.

And in this sense, it is very important how both sides of the new bipolar world see Russia in general, and modern Putin's Russia in particular. Simply because an unambiguous and implacable enemy can appear on either side of the barricades, as well as a suspicious, but still quite obvious ally.
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  1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 25 2021 12: 32
    +1
    Sometimes Reporter pleases with interesting, competent articles.
    I am also interested in how the Chinese leadership will resolve internal contradictions, when the official ideology of communism talks about equality, but in reality the inequality of Chinese citizens in the best African traditions.
    1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
      Alexzn (Alexander) April 25 2021 13: 11
      +1
      This can be survived, but the lack of universal values ​​that they can offer the world deprives them of the prospects for leadership in the world.
      The article is really good.
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 25 2021 13: 49
        -4
        Well I do not know. The USSR did not survive the contradiction between the declared values ​​and reality. At the same time, the communist ideology claimed universality. But probably the collapse of the USSR greatly undermined this ideology and now it cannot claim universality.
  2. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 25 2021 14: 20
    +2
    Quote: Oleg Rambover
    Well I do not know. The USSR did not survive the contradiction between the declared values ​​and reality. At the same time, the communist ideology claimed universality. But probably the collapse of the USSR greatly undermined this ideology and now it cannot claim universality.

    Why? Can. Socialism itself is universal! It was just that real practice and lack of flexibility came into conflict with the national, religious, moral, patriarchal. The objectivity of the course of history, ignoring the subjective psychological factor, was dogmatically understood. Everything according to Marx - socialism can only be built by the rich, but it is the poor who are trying, deforming the very idea. Europe has built a completely social society by being capitalist, China has built capitalism by being socialist ...
    China is too national, has too long a history based not at all on universal Confucianism, etc. etc.
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 25 2021 16: 15
      -2
      Quote: AlexZN
      Europe has built a completely social society by being capitalist, China has built capitalism by being socialist ...

      Cool said. And he built wild capitalism. But is China socialist now? What do you mean by socialism? I have always considered one of the main signs of the socialization of the means of production. And China has clearly departed from this postulate. And in Europe, too, not socialism, but capitalism with a high level of social protection of citizens.
      Therefore, China cannot lay claim to the formation of meanings, since it declares one thing and built another.
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) April 25 2021 16: 57
        +1
        Quote: Oleg Rambover
        Cool said. And he built wild capitalism.

        Oleg Ramboverpeople always build. Remember this. laughing
  3. oderih Offline oderih
    oderih (Alex) April 25 2021 14: 22
    0
    The hegemon has only to wave his arms.
  4. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) April 25 2021 14: 50
    +4
    it is obvious that the 2020s will be the era of tough martial arts between the USA and the PRC

    Not a fact.
    The strength of the North American states is the as yet not lost advantage in the standard of living, but the PRC is rapidly catching up.
    As Comrade Xi said, China does not want war, but it is not afraid of war either. Everything will depend on the North American states.
    The world leader will not surrender his positions without resistance, but will be forced to concede under the threat of unacceptable losses in case of war, and therefore there is a variant of a separate peace that will satisfy both sides.

    Many analysts have already noticed that in the growing confrontation between the United States and China, in addition to the obvious geopolitical and economic, it is the ideological component that has become more and more obvious.

    Ideology reflects the social conditions of material life, the mode of production and is of a class nature. Therefore, it always serves the interests of the ruling class.
    This is the most important fundamental difference between the PRC and the North American United States, where one or another grouping of big business rules through formally democratic elections.
    In the PRC, big capital is controlled by the Political Party of the Proletariat and serves not a small handful of oligarchs, who own 99% of all world wealth and on whom the whole world hump, but the interests of the People's Republic of China and its Population !!! The essence and meaning of the dictatorship of the proletariat and the most important fundamental difference from the North American United States !!!
    Without the creation of a united capitalist front against the PRC, the North American states are doomed to defeat in competition with the PRC.
    The idea of ​​a worldwide "alliance of democracies" is nothing more than an attempt to consolidate world capital in opposition to the PRC, the only state in the world that has created the basis for building Socialism.

    Beijing will eventually move away from communism towards greater democracy and liberalism

    There will be more democracy in the PRC because democracy is the rule of the people, and the absolute majority of the people are hired workers - proletarians, who are represented by the Communist Party of China.
    In the North American states, however, there is no political party of the proletariat, and all "democracy" is reduced to an inter-party squabble and giving slaves the right every four years to choose their master in the form of a representative of one or another political party of big business, and the so-called. “Liberalism” consists in the form and degree of exploitation of their slaves by the slave owners.
    1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
      Alexzn (Alexander) April 25 2021 16: 33
      -1
      According to your logic, the most democratic state is North. Korea.
      You have a complete lack of understanding of what democracy is.
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) April 25 2021 17: 00
        +4
        Quote: AlexZN
        You have a complete lack of understanding of what democracy is.

        Alexzn, you can formulate your understanding of democracy, you are not prohibited from doing this. And that's great, isn't it? Freedom of speech is called! yes

        Great, as long as you do not start to be raped by someone else's and most faithful knowledge of everything and everyone. This I mean that the liberal propagandist pulled himself up, Oleg Rambover.

        And what about your understanding of democracy, will we hear today?
  5. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 25 2021 17: 21
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    Quote: isofat
    AlexZN, you can formulate your understanding of democracy, you are not prohibited from doing this. And that's great, isn't it? Freedom of speech is called!

    Not this way. Everyone can formulate the theory of relativity, but something tells me that it will be different from Einstein's. There is a very specific category in the social sciences that has a specific content, within the designated framework, we can talk about democracy, otherwise the highest form of democracy will be the dictatorship of the proletariat, the dictatorship of a specific dictator, or a simple ochlocracy.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) April 25 2021 17: 51
      +4
      Alexzn, the presence of social sciences cannot prevent us from using the concept of "democracy" on an intuitive level. How do you like this phrase:

      The subordination of the minority to the majority is a just principle of a democratic order.
  6. Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) April 25 2021 17: 58
    +4
    ... that people around the world are ready to pose as cowboys from the American frontier. But are there many who want to try on the rags of a Chinese peasant of the Qing dynasty? ...

    It is said not just strongly, but very ... I am friendly recommend to the respected author to break out on vacation in any tourist-attractive country and pay attention to the composition of tourists on the main square of its capital ...
    The bulk of who? That's right, Chinese peasants in rags ...
    good
  7. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 25 2021 18: 12
    -2
    Quote: isofat
    Alexzn, the presence of social sciences cannot prevent us from using the concept of "democracy" on an intuitive level. How do you like this phrase:

    The subordination of the minority to the majority is a just principle of a democratic order.

    In a general vote of painters, da Vinci was recognized as a mediocrity.
    Thieves rightly dropped a couple of endured, because they were the majority. Fair enough!
    Continue?
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) April 25 2021 18: 49
      +2
      Quote: AlexZN
      In a general vote of painters, da Vinci was recognized as a mediocrity.

      Alexzn, you surprised me. You have a complete lack of understanding of what democracy is.
  8. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 25 2021 18: 19
    -3
    Quote: Petr Vladimirovich
    The bulk of who? That's right, Chinese peasants in rags ...

    Not in rags, but in EUROPEAN clothes.
    There are much more German tourists, by the way, just the vast majority of the Chinese move in large organized groups, initially being alien in the Western world and they are striking. And they graze in those very central squares.
  9. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 25 2021 18: 57
    -1
    Quote: isofat
    Quote: AlexZN
    In a general vote of painters, da Vinci was recognized as a mediocrity.

    Alexzn, you surprised me. You have a complete lack of understanding of what democracy is.

    This is when the proletarians, being the majority, rule the world. tongue
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) April 25 2021 19: 39
      +1
      AlexznIf your intuition tells you to be careful, you may well rely on one of the definitions given by the social sciences. smile

      You can not rely, because the existence of only one mechanism that ensures the existence of democracy, its existence, as it turned out, does not guarantee.

      Alexzn, I see that for some reason, you decided not to share your point of view on this issue and laugh it off.

      Maybe mr Oleg Rambover stop portraying the offended and take part in the search for the truth?
    2. Dear sofa expert. April 25 2021 21: 23
      +3
      This is when the proletarians, being the majority, rule the world.

      Hmm .. Smart, a priori, less than stupid.
      That is, you just said that democracy is the rule of fools?
      Even if your statement is correct, what then is the attraction of democracy?
  10. isofat Offline isofat
    isofat (isofat) April 25 2021 21: 16
    +1
    Statement:

    China suffers ideological defeat at the hands of the United States

    not proven.

    Not a single word about what is happening in reality. We all saw what happened in the US presidential elections. We see what is happening now in the United States.

    We see the growth of the Chinese economy, but we do not see the defeat of the Chinese ideology. request
  11. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 25 2021 21: 35
    -1
    Quote: isofat
    We see the growth of the Chinese economy, but we do not see the defeat of the Chinese ideology.

    We see growth. We do not see the defeat of ideology due to the lack of such in China (in the foreign policy doctrine). China simply has nothing to offer the outside world. China is a mono-national country, while national and universal are initially in contradiction in the context of globalization.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) April 25 2021 22: 47
      +5
      Quote: AlexZN
      We do not see the defeat of ideology due to the absence of such in China (in the foreign policy doctrine). China simply has nothing to offer the outside world.

      In general, people are the bearers of ideology, and it is not so important how many nationalities there are. In other words, foreign policy doctrine and mono-nationality do not interfere and are not at all necessary for the existence of their ideology among the population of the country.

      What the United States is spreading around the world is not an ideology. This is an ideological sabotage.

      Today it is clearly seen that the United States has a deficit of ideology that would unite this country. request
      1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
        Alexzn (Alexander) April 26 2021 07: 35
        +1
        Why are there so many controversial statements? Just point out what China has to offer the global village in terms of ideology. France once proposed - freedom, equality, brotherhood and peace destroyed the estates, the USSR proposed - from each according to his ability, to each according to where, who does not work, he does not eat - the world thought about social justice, the USA proposed the great American dream within the framework of society consumerism and democracy and the world began to dream of a lawn in front of its house.
        We will not delve into how this was implemented, what problems arose, we just proceed from the obvious - it worked!
        What does China offer?
        1. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) April 26 2021 15: 29
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          Quote: AlexZN
          What does China offer?

          Alexzn... The state ideology of the PRC is enshrined in the Constitution. In modern China, the doctrine of socialism with national Chinese characteristics has been adopted.

          When China starts holding gay pride parades, like you do in Israel, then let's talk about the fact that China is suffering an ideological defeat from the United States.

          PS You yourself can analyze what from the ideology of China would suit your country, no one will offer you.
    2. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) April 26 2021 11: 18
      +2
      China is a mono-national country,

      Officially, there are 56 nationalities in China.
  12. isofat Offline isofat
    isofat (isofat) April 25 2021 21: 56
    +3
    Recall that the United States compensates for the shortcomings of its own school system by importing talented graduate students from other countries, primarily from China and India.
  13. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) April 26 2021 07: 24
    -3
    - The author of the article did not say the most important thing ... - This is that China is afraid of war ... - Terribly afraid of war !!! .. - Moreover, the main difference (from other states) of this "fear" is that all states are afraid of war on their territory (supposedly, the enemy will come to their territory and have to fight with him at home) ... - And China ... on the contrary - not so much afraid of war on its territory ... - as afraid to fight outside its territory ... - China is very afraid to send its troops somewhere far away, outside of its state; and at home ... - ready to fight ...
    - What's the difference ??? - And in that:
    1. That China ... - since it became China in general ... - has never fought outside of its state ... - but only fought local wars at home ... - And China simply does not know how to fight for outside your home ... - Today it sounds naive ... - but it is so ...;
    2. And, if, nevertheless, China dares to fight far beyond the borders of its state; then ... then ... then he (China) ... - immediately becomes the enemy of all mankind ... - It's just that the whole world will immediately unite against him ...
    - In the current situation, the position of Russia is completely incomprehensible ... - Today Russia simply "distracts" from China ... - Russia today takes all the negative on itself ... - i.e. - everything that today's world considers "the world's evil" ... - Russia is trying in every way to pull it off to itself ... - and to keep this "image". as long as possible ... - and Russia succeeds .. - The image of the "enemy and enemy" of the whole world ... - this is how Russia is perceived ...
    - And China at the same time ... - remains "white and fluffy" ... - And all the bumps, kicks and cuffs are pouring on Russia ... - This is the whole point ... - And this is the whole failure and the whole collapse of today's foreign policy of Russia ...
    - Today Russia not only in everything and in all spheres (financial, industrial, military, scientific, space, in the field of new technologies, etc.) supports China (with enormous damage to its Russian industry and economy); but it also distracts all the negativity on itself, which should be brought down to China ...
    - As for "Chinese socialism" ... - then personally, I have already spoken out in detail on this occasion in several topics in some detail ... - The bottom line is that China still manages to "hide behind socialism"; to mimic and create the illusion of building developed socialism ... - I can post these materials ...
  14. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 26 2021 12: 11
    0
    Quote: Bulanov
    China is a mono-national country,

    Officially, there are 56 nationalities in China.

    According to the UN criteria, a mono-national entity is one in which over 90% belongs to one nation. In China, 91,5% are Han, and historically the proportion of Han was even higher.
  15. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 26 2021 16: 48
    0
    Quote: isofat
    Quote: AlexZN
    What does China offer?

    Alexzn... The state ideology of the PRC is enshrined in the Constitution. In modern China, the doctrine of socialism with national Chinese characteristics has been adopted.

    When China starts holding gay pride parades, like you do in Israel, then let's talk about the fact that China is suffering an ideological defeat from the United States.

    PS You yourself can analyze what from the ideology of China would suit your country, no one will offer you.

    For the role of world leader, dazibao on the Chinese fence is not enough! Tales about socialism against the background of social inequality of the African spill and the complete absence of liberal freedoms - all that China can offer today. As a matter of fact, understanding this, he (so far) does not offer anything.
  16. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 26 2021 16: 56
    0
    When China starts holding gay pride parades, like you do in Israel, then let's talk about the fact that China is suffering an ideological defeat from the United States.

    The cheapest way to earn plus points from the marginals.
    You may not like gays (like blacks, Asians, Jews, cyclists, etc.) - you are in your right, but an attempt to discriminate against them and speak dirty about them eloquently characterizes you. I may not like gay pride parades, but I hate it much more when they are banned.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) April 26 2021 20: 41
      0
      Alexzn, start over. I do not see what the author claims in his article, namely, the victory of American (USA) ideology in the PRC. You cannot help me, no matter how hard you try.

      Where did you see the defeat of Chinese ideology, where? Can't show? Bye.

      PS Forget your Sodom and Gomorrah at home in Israel. Perverts are discredited not by me, but by the laws of nature. They do not leave offspring.
      1. Cyril Offline Cyril
        Cyril (Kirill) April 29 2021 23: 09
        -2
        Perverts are discredited not by me, but by the laws of nature. They do not leave offspring.

        First, people of the same sex orientation can leave offspring.

        Second, the use of condoms, hormonal contraceptives is a perversion? After such intercourse, there are no offspring either :)
  17. Alexander Geykhman (Alexander) April 27 2021 14: 18
    +1
    It seems to me that the author is not quite right, or, rather, is not right at all. There are only two ideas in the world with countless modifications and interpretations depending on centuries, peoples and cultures. Theocratic ideology, when a person / people / state is put at the forefront of the highest idea and service to it (God) and earthly ideology, when exclusively mundane, mundane goals are put at the forefront - the consumption of bread and circuses. Undoubtedly, this black-and-white picture is diluted with countless half-tones, when glimpses of spiritual needs arise in a ruminant bipedal consumer, or when rather base animal instincts awaken in spiritual people. But, in general, so. The United States, as a Babylonian harlot, offers the world the concept of satisfying animals and spiritual needs: life is one and the goal of life is the maximum satisfaction of worldly desires. Russia at all times offered the world the concept of meeting, first of all, spiritual needs. Serving God, seeking the Truth of God, living according to the commandments, limiting carnal needs, honoring God's saints, and so on. This concept can be expressed by the phrase "Holy Russia" - a person lives on earth not to satisfy animal instincts, but for the Kingdom of Heaven. The search for the meaning of life is the main leitmotif of Russian civilization. Here are two poles, two ideas, West and East, flesh and spirit ... And as Dostoevsky wrote, "Here the devil fights with God, and the battlefield is the hearts of people." And therefore, always and everywhere, in any country and in any culture, there will be people professing these two ideas, sometimes subconsciously. Someone will be attracted by jeans and chewing gum, and they will be ready to sell their mother for them, and therefore for them the United States will be "the beacon of civilization and democracy." And someone will be attracted to China with its omnivorous and herd nature (this is the same America, only a side view). I personally feel comfortable living in my native Russia, even if the bureaucratic laws are not always clear and our slovenliness is not always pleasant. Therefore, certain countries profess certain ideas, and trumpet about them all over the world, but this does not mean their intrinsic value or unequivocal attractiveness in the eyes of other countries and other peoples.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) April 28 2021 19: 17
      +1
      Alexander Geykhman, thanks for the interesting comment.
    2. Cyril Offline Cyril
      Cyril (Kirill) April 29 2021 23: 11
      -2
      Russia at all times offered the world the concept of meeting, first of all, spiritual needs. Serving God, seeking the Truth of God, life according to the commandments, limitation of carnal needs, veneration of the saints of God, and so on.

      laughing Have you ever studied the history of Russia?)
  18. Prokop Pork Offline Prokop Pork
    Prokop Pork (Prokop) April 27 2021 17: 04
    0
    It must be said that China is not at all concerned with everything that is written here. This is just a product of the Russian worldview, which is very unproductive.
    1. Prokop Pork Offline Prokop Pork
      Prokop Pork (Prokop) April 27 2021 17: 21
      0
      And the Chinese will gladly make money using other people's senses.