"Don't repeat Bush's mistake!" US warns Biden against war with Russia


So far, high-ranking officials from the administration of the new US president, and he himself, are personally conducting intensive telephone negotiations with Kiev, expressing "the strongest support" for him, and in fact, encouraging new provocations and aggressive actions in the Donbass, in the United States more and more loudly voices are heard of those who do not feel the slightest enthusiasm for the irresponsible actions of the White House and the Pentagon in this crisis. Really, the Washington politicians it would be worth listening to them before continuing on a course fraught with a military-political escalation in the east of Ukraine.


American society, embraced by a multitude of problems, today is categorically not disposed to fight, and the army is hardly ready for hostilities with such an adversary as Russia. The signals about this are extremely clear and ignoring them, the US authorities can make a fatal miscalculation.

"Don't repeat Bush's mistake!"


The very authoritative American edition of The National Interest published an extremely harsh article on the eve of a senior fellow on defense and foreign policy at the Cato Institute, Ted Galen Carpenter. It openly states that the current actions of the US administration in relation to Ukraine are not just a "bad idea", but the right path to truly disastrous consequences. At least - for the most "nezalezhnaya". The author of the publication draws direct parallels between the current events and 2008, when, as he claims, it was "the disastrous policy of George W. Bush" that made the then President of Georgia Mikhail Saakashvili believe that the United States and NATO would provide his country with direct military support in the event of an armed clash with Russia. In fact, it pushed to unleash hostilities.

The supply of weapons worth millions of dollars, the training of the Georgian army, and most importantly, as Carpenter writes, "the frantic praise by Bush and other high-ranking officials of Washington" of Saakashvili himself and his "democratic revolution" created an extremely dangerous illusion in the Georgian president that "if something happens." The United States will not hesitate to go to war on his side. When, as a result of "dizziness" from these alleged "successes", Tbilisi decided to start an aggression against South Ossetia and ran into a powerful "response" from Moscow, all these fantasies collapsed very quickly. Bush, who called him from Washington, once again assured him of "the full commitment of the United States to the territorial integrity of Georgia," but not a single bomber received a command to take off and not a single aircraft carrier left the base. The author of the article gives a clear definition of the reason why "NATO troops remained in the barracks" - not a single country of the Alliance had even thought of risking a confrontation with Russia with nuclear arsenals "because of some kind of territorial dispute."

This was followed by eating a tie in front of a TV camera, and, as Carpenter writes, "the forced acceptance of a humiliating peace by Saakashvili." At the same time, Mr. Senior Researcher is pretty disingenuous, "forgetting" that actually in August 2008 our troops could enter Tbilisi and put the tie-eating president before the tribunal for everything that was done on his order in the same Tskhinvali ... However , the fact that Mr. Carpenter is not a sympathizer of Russia is clear at least from the definition he gives in his opus to Abkhazia and South Ossetia - “separatist regions”. On the other hand, the more valuable are his further conclusions and warnings. The similarity of what is happening now in Ukraine and Donbass with the events of 2008, he considers "frighteningly gloomy." The actions of the West are deliberately ignoring "Vladimir Putin's repeated warnings that by supporting Ukraine, they are crossing the red line regarding Russian security." And he warns: "Biden seems to be going to repeat Bush's mistake!"

Further, Carpenter "draws" two possible scenarios for the further development of the situation. As he believes, most likely, August 2008 will repeat itself, and Ukraine "will share the fate of those countries that, blindly relying on US assistance in a critical situation, paid for them with a crushing military defeat." In his opinion, "Kiev will have to experience the same humiliation as Tbilisi, and the American leaders will again show what their bellicose statements are worth." However, according to the author of The National Interest, this is an even better option. Carpenter, albeit with an extremely low degree of probability, admits that "the Biden administration will come to an attempt to give a military response to Russia." He calls such actions "extreme madness" and writes that "not a single sane American can want the United States to fulfill its promises to Ukraine."

Is it before the war now ?!


Someone might think that the above presentation is a purely personal opinion of a certain analyst, which does not reflect the general mood in the media and in society. No way! First of all, any reputable mass media, wherever the case takes place, is the spokesman for the opinion and position of certain individuals, groups and forces. Everyone who continues to believe in something different to this day is naive idealists ... The same The National Interest in the US itself is considered to be the “mouthpiece” of the highest echelons of conservatives. However, here is another example - in a completely different publication, National Review, an article by another authoritative expert, Lawrence Korb, appears. Again, a senior fellow, but this time from the Center for American Progress. This author does not directly touch on the events in Ukraine, but he undertakes to assert that "the US armed forces can no longer engage in the spread of democracy in the world." Especially - at the expense of American taxpayers who now need something completely different. Korb cites Afghanistan and Iraq as examples of how seemingly successful military operations turned into hopelessly lost campaigns.

Regarding the latter, he is generally extremely categorical - according to the expert, Washington unleashed hostilities against him "under a far-fetched pretext", and it all came down to "seizing oil resources", which today, according to the author of the article, are "milked" by "dubious PMCs" and some "Influential clans". The specifics and references to the "spite of the day" regarding the confrontation in Donbass in this speech, of course, are much less, but there is more than enough reasonable pacifism. One gets the impression that quite serious forces in the United States, who for one reason or another do not want to speak out directly, are extremely not interested in another military adventure, in which the country is about to get involved.

At the moment, the United States is not something that it does not want - it cannot fight. The statement that “to continue politics by other means” requires money, money, and more money, was considered an axiom a couple of centuries ago. Today, things are not going well in the United States, to put it mildly. No - there are plans widely publicized by the same Biden for "trillions of investments" in the development of infrastructure and something else ... But there is also reality. Here are just a couple of touches from it: according to official data from the US Department of Labor, the number of applications for unemployment benefits for the week ended March 20 of this year, rose to a record level, exceeding 120 thousand. In total, as of the time indicated above, more than 3.8 million people applied for financial assistance from the state due to the lack of work in the United States. In light of this, the data that since the beginning of this spring alone a quarter of a million people have appeared on the streets in the country does not look surprising at all.

This happened for the most commonplace reason for the United States - they were evicted because they did not pay the due rent. The total amount of "apartment" debt in the country has already amounted to more than $ 57 billion. At the same time, the owners of rented real estate complain that many of them have not been paid by the guests for a year or more. The government quite seriously fears that massive spontaneous riots are about to break out in the country, the participants of which will demand not "racial equality", but the abolition of rent for housing. In some places, demonstrations and strikes with such appeals, as well as under the slogans of increasing federal "coronavirus" aid, taking into account this problem, are already taking place. And in such a situation, to start a war that will devour tens and hundreds of millions of dollars every day? It looks too much like political suicide, and today Biden is reminded of it quite openly.

By the way, about suicides - solely in the light of the combat readiness of the US army at the moment. The Pentagon recently published shocking numbers - the number of suicides in the ranks of the military reached a record high in 2020. More than 570 soldiers and officers took their own lives - and this, as stipulated in the department, is only "preliminary data". Compared to 2019, the number of suicides in the army, in the navy, in the US National Guard increased by 13.5%. The most susceptible to this evil are the active army units related to the ground forces. However, as already mentioned, suicide collected its terrible tribute in all branches and types of troops, and the number of its cases increased from month to month and from quarter to quarter. The Chief of Staff of the US Air Force, General Charles Brown, as the main reason for this situation, calls "stress caused or intensified by the coronavirus." However, it is not known how much this is true - after all, his predecessor in this post, General David Goldfin, back in 2019, before the pandemic began, argued that suicide is "an enemy that kills more American military than any other enemy." Go into battle with personnel in such a moral and psychological state? This is truly a bad idea, as the Americans themselves say.

We can only hope that the real power in the United States is not only (and perhaps not so much) the "leader of the nation" sitting in the White House. Apparently, certain circles of the Washington politicians have a realistic understanding of the current situation and a very clear reluctance to cross the notorious "red lines". I would like to believe that common sense will prevail after all.
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  1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) April 7 2021 11: 19
    +2
    After 1 MV, 4 empires disappeared, after 2 MV - one, the British. After 3 MV, the American one may disappear. Prior to the outbreak of wars, previous empires also felt very confident!
  2. aquarius580 Offline aquarius580
    aquarius580 April 7 2021 11: 28
    -2
    Decides questions of war and peace only the union of Ukrainian oligarchs and military.
    US assistance is gratefully accepted, for the US is the guarantor of Ukraine's territorial integrity, in accordance with the Budapest Memorandum.
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) April 7 2021 11: 40
      +1
      which does not commit anyone to anything laughing

      It is important to note that the United States, prior to Euromaidan, did not consider that the Budapest Memorandum legally obliges them to do something. For example, the response of the US Embassy in Belarus on April 12, 2013 to the statement that the US sanctions violate the Budapest Memorandum: “The repeated statements of the Government of the Republic of Belarus that the US sanctions violate the 1994 Budapest Memorandum of Security are unfounded. Although the Memorandum is not legally binding, we take these political commitments seriously ... "

      so expect at best a very serious US concern. maybe they even shake a finger laughing
      1. aquarius580 Offline aquarius580
        aquarius580 April 7 2021 11: 42
        -2
        Do you follow the news at all? In the Black Sea regularly, as a deterrent, there are American missile destroyers with Tomahawks on board.
        1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
          Just a cat (Bayun) April 7 2021 12: 00
          0
          did you read the montreux convention? they hold back .... the Turks will be the first to sink these destroyers and begin
          1. aquarius580 Offline aquarius580
            aquarius580 April 7 2021 12: 01
            -1
            Are you well aware of the meaning of the term "containment"?
            1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
              Just a cat (Bayun) April 7 2021 12: 03
              +2
              How about geography? the usa is not a black sea power. and nobody needs their little kids in the Black Sea puddle.
        2. YES UZH Offline YES UZH
          YES UZH (YES) April 8 2021 06: 31
          +1
          Quote: aquarius580
          Do you follow the news at all? In the Black Sea regularly, as a deterrent, there are American missile destroyers with Tomahawks on board.

          So this is for you, holding you back from getting your harem pants dirty and giving you confidence. Not, not dangerous, absolutely, there is nothing to be afraid of. We ourselves are here
          1. YES UZH Offline YES UZH
            YES UZH (YES) April 8 2021 06: 33
            0
            Quote: YES UZH
            Quote: aquarius580
            Do you follow the news at all? In the Black Sea regularly, as a deterrent, there are American missile destroyers with Tomahawks on board.

            So this is for you, holding you back from getting your harem pants dirty and giving you confidence. Not, not dangerous, absolutely, there is nothing to be afraid of. We ourselves are here

            we will wait, mentally we will be with you, but you have nothing to fear.
    2. YES UZH Offline YES UZH
      YES UZH (YES) April 8 2021 06: 22
      0
      Quote: aquarius580
      Decides questions of war and peace only the union of Ukrainian oligarchs and military.
      US assistance is gratefully accepted, for the US is the guarantor of Ukraine's territorial integrity, in accordance with the Budapest Memorandum.

      What is the obligation of the memorandum? Why write nonsense? It's time to introduce the order of Saakashvilli for courage, dementia and naivety.
    3. Ulysses Online Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) April 8 2021 21: 40
      +1

      US assistance is gratefully accepted, for the US is the guarantor of Ukraine's territorial integrity, in accordance with the Budapest Memorandum.

      The document was never ratified, remaining a memorandum.
      (We agreed to come to an agreement, but something did not grow together).
      Filkin's letter, "guarantor" in contrast to the believer aquarius580 does not even mention this nonsense.

      Only the alliance of the Ukrainian oligarchs and the military can resolve the issues of war and peace.

      Do the people of Ukraine know about this?
      This is a rhetorical question, but you did explain what all your Maidans were worth.
  3. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 7 2021 12: 55
    -6
    The Pentagon recently published shocking numbers - the number of suicides in the ranks of the military reached a record high in 2020. More than 570 soldiers and officers took their own lives

    And where are the data on the Russian army? Why are they classified? In 2008 (the last time the data was published) there were 470 suicides in the Russian army (despite the fact that there are 1,5 times less servicemen in it) - Doesn't this shock Neukropny?

    that Mr. Carpenter is not a sympathizer of Russia, it is clear at least from the definition that he gives in his opus to Abkhazia and South Ossetia - "separatist regions"

    A sympathetic person is who?
    Abkhazia and South. Ossetia being part of Georgia are not separatist? Or is the desire of a part to leave the whole not separatism?

    The total amount of "apartment" debt in the country has already amounted to more than $ 57 billion. At the same time, the owners of rented real estate complain that many of them have not been paid by the guests for a year or more. The government quite seriously fears that massive spontaneous riots are about to break out in the country, the participants of which will demand not "racial equality", but the abolition of rent for housing.

    In Russia at that time, taking into account the remnants from previous years in January-November 2020, the bailiffs had more than 6,1 million cases of housing and utility debt. The amount of debt has reached 144 billion rubles. Of these, 3,8 million productions for 77,2 billion rubles were launched in 2020.

    The average debt for a communal apartment in Russia has reached 24 rubles. In 000, it was 2018 rubles, and in 23 it decreased to 500 rubles. The bailiffs also said that for 2019 months of 21, the Russians paid off 700 billion rubles of debts for housing and communal services.
    1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) April 7 2021 13: 37
      +4
      Abkhazia and South. Ossetia being part of Georgia are not separatist? Or is the desire of a part to leave the whole not separatism?

      Did you think that when they criminally destroyed the USSR, for which 76% of the country's population voted, then everything would be peaceful? Abkhazia did not stand in any way towards Georgia. It became part of Russia earlier than Georgia. It was the Bolsheviks who united them. This means that after the departure of the Bolsheviks, everything must come back. Including the Russian outskirts in the form of new states. This is, if by logic.
  4. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 7 2021 13: 46
    -1
    Quote: Bulanov
    Abkhazia and South. Ossetia being part of Georgia are not separatist? Or is the desire of a part to leave the whole not separatism?

    Did you think that when they criminally destroyed the USSR, for which 76% of the country's population voted, then everything would be peaceful? Abkhazia did not stand in any way towards Georgia. It became part of Russia earlier than Georgia. It was the Bolsheviks who united them. This means that after the departure of the Bolsheviks, everything must come back. Including the Russian outskirts in the form of new states. This is, if by logic.

    This means, at least, the separatism of Yuzh. Do you dispute Ossetia?
    1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) April 7 2021 15: 34
      +1
      What about Georgian separatism? Who was she before the Bolshevik revolution?
  5. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker April 7 2021 14: 04
    -1
    If the Americans and the EU were friends with common sense, then a lot of things would not have happened. All the problems now are that the US and the EU do not consider people's lives for common sense. Moreover, the life of the Russians. And Putin himself created these problems, because he could not think of a "step forward". If you took up something to do, you need to do everything to the end, and not stop halfway. The time has come - hit first!
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) April 7 2021 15: 19
      0
      but you can not beat anyone and wait for the results of the Ukrainian reforms and just sweep the Ukrainian bones with a broom. and there is no need to feed the prisoners, think about re-educating the population and rebuilding the infrastructure.
  6. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) April 7 2021 20: 13
    -5
    "Don't repeat Bush's mistake!" US warns Biden against war with Russia

    - What Bush ??? - As far as the first Bush (father) was impressive, very successful and advanced in everything ... - so mediocre and ... and literally in no way competent (and even with the appearance of a moron) was the second Bush (son) ...
    - As for the war; then the United States today is quite ready for war ... - for an ordinary war (without the use of nuclear weapons) ...
    - As for China ... - then China is completely ready for such a war (without the use of nuclear weapons) ...
    - As for Russia ... - Russia is absolutely not ready for war (without the use of nuclear weapons); and even with such a commander-in-chief; with such a minister of defense; with such generals and such training of the officer corps ...
    - Well ... and who with whom, "if something happens" will fight ??? - USA and China ... - between themselves ??? - But what's the point for them to fight among themselves ... - and for what ??? - Here is the richest state, endowed with all natural resources and a vast territory ... - A state with a dead industry, with a backward economy (at the level of third world countries); with a weak ... poorly armed and experiencing a huge deficit in modern weapons, the army ... is Russia ... - Russia, which will never dare to use nuclear weapons ... - this is already known to the whole world ... - Well, so and what is the conclusion here ???
    - The conclusion is ... - attack Russia; share its territory; annex all the riches ... and so on ... - And there is no need to master other planets in order to transport minerals from Space ... - these are such cosmic costs ...
    - And here is a whole immense Russia ... - and very close ... - And a hundred years will not be enough to master its territory and its riches; even if for two, for three (and more) to divide its territory ...
    - As for China ... - and so it suited today's Russia as a donor and a submissive and obedient kind neighbor in everything ... - China would continue to draw all the juices from Russia; but the Americans don't want to endure this anymore ... - And the Americans are putting the question squarely in front of China ... - "or we are dividing Russia ... - or we are no longer partners" ... - - Well, the time has come for China - surrender Russia ...
    - China, of course, is very afraid; but he has no choice ... - What can China do today with its entire gigantic, gluttonous army and its industry and production, which are absolutely "out of work" ??? - And what to do with all this crowd tomorrow .. ??? - What should China do with all this ??? - Here, the seizure of Taiwan will not give anything ... - for China, this is just a "drop in the bucket" ...
    -So that ........................................
    1. Netyn Offline Netyn
      Netyn (Netyn) April 7 2021 20: 50
      +1
      As always, the flow of delirium and lies
      Do not reduce the heat - burn isho
  7. Netyn Offline Netyn
    Netyn (Netyn) April 7 2021 20: 48
    +1
    Quote: AlexZN
    This means, at least, the separatism of Yuzh. Do you dispute Ossetia?

    I also argue that the separatists are Hamarjobs, while the Ossetians, on the contrary, are striving to reunite.
  8. Vlad Nemtsev Offline Vlad Nemtsev
    Vlad Nemtsev (Vlad Nemtsev) April 8 2021 01: 57
    +1
    Quote: gorenina91
    "Don't repeat Bush's mistake!" US warns Biden against war with Russia

    - What Bush ??? - As far as the first Bush (father) was impressive, very successful and advanced in everything ... - so mediocre and ... and literally in no way competent (and even with the appearance of a moron) was the second Bush (son) ...
    - As for the war; then the United States today is quite ready for war ... - for an ordinary war (without the use of nuclear weapons) ...
    - As for China ... - then China is completely ready for such a war (without the use of nuclear weapons) ...
    - As for Russia ... - Russia is absolutely not ready for war (without the use of nuclear weapons); and even with such a commander-in-chief; with such a minister of defense; with such generals and such training of the officer corps ...
    - Well ... and who with whom, "if something happens" will fight ??? - USA and China ... - between themselves ??? - But what's the point for them to fight among themselves ... - and for what ??? - Here is the richest state, endowed with all natural resources and a vast territory ... - A state with a dead industry, with a backward economy (at the level of third world countries); with a weak ... poorly armed and experiencing a huge deficit in modern weapons, the army ... is Russia ... - Russia, which will never dare to use nuclear weapons ... - this is already known to the whole world ... - Well, so and what is the conclusion here ???
    - The conclusion is ... - attack Russia; share its territory; annex all the riches ... and so on ... - And there is no need to master other planets in order to transport minerals from Space ... - these are such cosmic costs ...
    - And here is a whole immense Russia ... - and very close ... - And a hundred years will not be enough to master its territory and its riches; even if for two, for three (and more) to divide its territory ...
    - As for China ... - and so it suited today's Russia as a donor and a submissive and obedient kind neighbor in everything ... - China would continue to draw all the juices from Russia; but the Americans don't want to endure this anymore ... - And the Americans are putting the question squarely in front of China ... - "or we are dividing Russia ... - or we are no longer partners" ... - - Well, the time has come for China - surrender Russia ...
    - China, of course, is very afraid; but he has no choice ... - What can China do today with its entire gigantic, gluttonous army and its industry and production, which are absolutely "out of work" ??? - And what to do with all this crowd tomorrow .. ??? - What should China do with all this ??? - Here, the seizure of Taiwan will not give anything ... - for China, this is just a "drop in the bucket" ...
    -So that ........................................

    But you never know they were willing to divide and plunder Russia. The past results in the history of the conquerors are somehow quickly forgotten, and the hopes for a positive outcome of the military invasion live longer than usual. If you do not notice the connection between Desire and Result, which is typical for the United States because they alone have not yet tried to divide Russia, then the Third World War cannot be avoided. The result has already been announced, if someone who wants to divide and multiply has their ears blocked, or there is not enough thought, perhaps advice will help, cover yourself with a white sheet and move at a quick pace to the cemetery.
  9. danyla Offline danyla
    danyla (Vasily Doinichenko) April 8 2021 07: 11
    0
    Describing the difficult situation in the United States and "shocking" in the army due to suicides, the author did not say a word about the situation in the enemy country, that is, about us . And our situation is no better, and maybe even worse. The bulk of the Internet flooded the entire Internet with not entirely truthful information, but they serve it in such a way that more and more people believe. T.N. "Pension reform", which has nothing to do with the proclaimed fight against poverty, simply brought down people's confidence in the president, government and deputies. And I'm not even talking about the reform of education and medicine. This was noticeable on the doctors last year. In a large regional center, in the spring of last year, doctors who visited patients, including covid, were not even provided with masks and gloves. Every person can write a book about the work of our health care, only there will be little good there. And this is not about doctors, but about the organization of work and the rules adopted (by the enemies of the people). I can say about the army based on the Soviet experience, then it was more powerful, more and more skillful. While I was serving, only 2 people from my company (idiots) were demobilized according to medical indicators, as psychos and schizoids. This is an elite part of space communications (late 70s). And about the same was the case in each of the departments (as the companies were called). And when I got to the garrison hospital in Simferopol with appendicitis, I saw a bunch of these idiots there. In order not to serve in the unit, they were braked by hook or by crook at the hospital, they dragged shit after the negroes so that they would not be sent to the unit. I don't think the army is better now than it was in Soviet times. Maybe only contractors and specialists will be more abruptly, although it is also doubtful. We all remember Chechnya and we remember the boys with their heads cut off, whom these same double basses and specialists sent for vodka and smoke alone, without weapons, to hostile villages. This means that over 40 years of army reforms, it has only become worse. This is me about the personnel of the units, I will not say anything about the equipment, tk. do not know. So everything is not as rosy here as the Americans are, of course, only if the truth is told about them.