Which is better - MiG or Sukhoi? Better Sukhoi, but the bet is placed on the MiG


There are few branches of the national economy where we can resist Western producers. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, we have lost our advanced competencies in almost all market segments, especially in terms of of technologies... On the fingers of one hand, I can count those industries where we still hold a priority, and then only on the basis of the colossal Soviet foundation, accumulated by generations of Soviet engineers and scientists, inherited from the USSR. Among them, the military aircraft industry is far from last.


To remove possible questions, I will immediately say that the five of these industries are as follows: 1) Rosatom, 2) gas and oil production, 3) military aviation industry, 4) military (especially in terms of submarine) and icebreaking shipbuilding and 5) Roskosmos, which rolls down, eating up the remnants of the Soviet pie.

Today we will talk about the military aviation industry. I must say right away that we retained our leading positions in this highly competitive market only thanks to the magnificent Soviet legacy and the presence of two advanced competing design groups - PJSC Sukhoi Company and JSC RSK MiG. And their successes in recent years are based mainly on breakthrough Soviet developments ahead of their time - the light MiG-29 fighter and the heavy Su-27.

In the post-Soviet years, the leadership was seized by Sukhoi. It got to the point that a year ago the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) decided to merge them, merging into the United Military Aviation Division. The goals were good:

The structure was supposed to be engaged in the development, production, sale and maintenance of the entire line of current and future combat aircraft of the UAC. Consolidation of the main research and production capacities of the military aircraft industry was supposed to serve the task of more efficient implementation of existing programs and the development of promising projects.

But it didn’t come. And a year later, the merger was suspended. Today we will talk about the reasons for this and the prospects for the development of the domestic military aviation industry.

Stop machine


The reason for the pause of the merger of the companies, most likely, was the lack of a comprehensive scheme for the merger of Sukhoi and MiG, which includes the combination of design plans into a single plan for the long-term development of the product range, a single development strategy, as well as a financial plan for the recovery of the enterprise, in the first place. turn of JSC RSK "MiG".

The merger algorithm assumes building a balance of relations between the connecting parties. This is a delicate mechanism, which in Russia, especially in the aircraft industry, has not yet been rebuilt. Because of this, merging usually means "being eaten" by the stronger side (in our case, it is undoubtedly "Dry") by the weaker one. Of course, such a prospect hardly suited the Migars.

At the same time, it is obvious that the UAC did not quite cope with the role of the arbiter assigned to it in the current situation. Let me remind you that the only positive experience of creating a division - transport aviation - was not noticed and used in the corporation, and the division itself as a structure ceased to exist with the departure of Alexei Rogozin from the post of general director of the Ilyushin Aviation Complex.

In general, the problem of divisional management in the UAC is still not fully resolved. No proven templates on this topic have been created, and the existing positive experience is not used. This raises more and more questions about the role and place of the UAC as the head managing organization in the reform and development of the aircraft industry. Apparently, the tasks of creating efficient divisions will be solved by the Rostec aviation cluster.

Balances of the opposing sides


At the same time, it should be noted that the military aircraft industry in Russia is the only one that was able to demonstrate outstanding competitive qualities. Since the 1990s, it has been dynamically developing, withstanding high rates of mass production and in a number of cases came up with unique offers on the market. On the other hand, the military aircraft market itself in the XNUMXst century is one of the most competitive and is currently undergoing a stage of global transformation.

In general, the task of combining Sukhoi and MiG - two completely different companies - objectively had its pitfalls. On one side of the scale - PJSC "Sukhoi", which for many years acted as a donor of the entire domestic aircraft industry. Without the export contracts implemented by the corporation, neither the short-haul Sukhoi Superjet nor the medium-haul MS-21 would have appeared. The demand in the market allowed Sukhoi to update its line of machines on the twenty-seventh platform (in the fourth generation - 4+, 4 ++), at the same time creating the fifth generation Su-57 fighter, which entered serial production in 2020 and began to arrive in the videoconferencing of Russia. Over the years, the company has accumulated a huge design and production experience, which is not found anywhere else.

On the the other side of the scale - the less successful JSC RSK MiG, which was unable to achieve results similar to the success of Sukhoi and its line of heavy vehicles on the Su-29 platform with its main product, the light MiG-27 fighter. A significant share of the responsibility for this lies with the management of the MiG, which did not take full advantage of the obvious advantages of the twenty-ninth: the relative cheapness, the creation of a deck version of the machine, large export contracts.

By the way, the lack of effective management of the Migars had a detrimental effect not only on the work of the company, but also on the performance of the mentioned contracts. Large deliveries of "twenty-ninths" to India and Algeria did not become the locomotive of the development of "MiG". Moreover, the delivery to Algeria turned into a scandal - a loyal partner of Russia, which was to receive 1,1 MiG-34SMT / 29UBT units under a $ 29 billion contract, insisted on the recall of already delivered aircraft due to gross production shortcomings revealed (this is such a fact -ap, who could bury any company, but not "MiG"). Although this indirectly influenced the fact that the MiG was never able to win the contract for the creation of India's national fighter, and the projects for the modernization of the machines already supplied to the Indians were not fully implemented.


In the early 2000s, there were attempts to restart the enterprise, limited deliveries of MiG-29s to the countries of Southeast Asia and Africa were realized. But all this did not lead to the rapid take-off of JSC RSK MiG. Now the further development of the mainline model of the enterprise is in question - the newest light fighter of the 4 ++ generation MiG-35, which is the result of the evolution of the MiG-29K / KUB and MiG-29M / M2 aircraft, has not yet found its buyer.

A ray of hope for "Migars"


But happiness came from where they did not expect. In 2018, the Kinzhal hypersonic missile system appeared in the arsenal of the Russian Aerospace Forces - a gravedigger of aircraft carriers, even by the very fact of its appearance, putting an end to the concept of AUG, which makes 11 American aircraft carrier strike groups nothing more than floating debris, a potential collective graveyard of the crews located there. air wing pilots and the US Marine Corps Marines traveling with them around the world. And the carrier of this terrible weapon became the supersonic high-altitude all-weather fighter-interceptor long-range MiG-31 in its modification MiG-31K, which was converted into the formidable "Dagger", created in Soviet times.

Now KB "MiG" is working closely on the creation on the basis of the MiG-31K a promising aircraft complex for long-range interception of the fifth generation - an interceptor called the MiG-41. Now its creation is at the stage of development work (development work). But this is a long-term task. Because the currently available MiG-31 fleet is sufficient to convert them into MiG-31K, and the needs of foreign customers, such as Venezuela or Algeria, are zero, since they do not have Daggers, and we are unlikely to share them. This is a strategic weapon for ensuring the security of the Russian Federation. Therefore, the MiG-41 is exclusively for domestic niche demand, and cannot be used on the foreign market with it.

The pride and misfortune of "Sukhoi"


We must pay tribute to PJSC "Sukhoi" - they made the most of all the advantages of the Su-27 they inherited. His super successful platform, which allowed them to create a wide range of heavy multifunctional fighters (and even a multifunctional supersonic fighter-bomber Su-34), not only brought good profits to the domestic defense industry, but also created a kind of "Sukhoi cult", thanks to which Sushki acquired even countries that objectively did not have a request for such a heavy machine.


A fresh example of this is the Su-30SM. Sometimes the purchase of modern Russian heavy fighters increased the potential of the air forces of the buying countries so much that in a number of regions it even led to geopolitical changes. In particular, according to analysts, it was thanks to the presence of effective Russian-made air defense systems, as well as the 19 Su-30MKVs in service, that Venezuela, after the death of its President Hugo Chavez, was able to avoid the invasion of foreign "democratizers" from neighboring countries, incited by one neighboring country. (whose name we all know).

However, the trouble crept up unnoticed. You cannot milk the same cow all the time. The market potential has exhausted itself. The result of the work of Sukhoi and a number of its foreign competitors is the fact that the niche of heavy multifunctional machines is now almost everywhere filled. Moreover, due to the global technological upgrade - the transition of leading powers to fifth-generation fighters - the number of offers of modernized fourth-generation aircraft will increase on the market, to which export versions of fifth-generation aircraft will naturally be added. Thus, the heavy machinery market will be oversaturated and highly competitive over the next 20 years. It will be possible to win back a place in the sun on it only by maintaining the leadership in the "race of modernizations" of the fourth generation cars and the prompt presentation of export versions of the fifth generation cars.

Therefore, PJSC Sukhoi Company is entering a period of difficult and fierce competition. At the same time, the market for manned strike aircraft will continue to be replaced by strike UAVs. This means that the S-70 Okhotnik heavy strike UAV project being developed by Sukhoi is becoming more and more relevant every day. In fact, in the most difficult segment of UAVs, heavy attack jet vehicles, only American-made drones will be able to compete with the Okhotnik.


A chance for MiG not to be missed


It just so happened that global players, preparing for confrontation with each other, followed the path of creating heavy fighters, acting exclusively in the logic of a global war and a potential clash of major powers in extended theaters of military operations. In the modern world, local conflicts of low and medium intensity most often occur, where heavy fighters have nowhere to even roam. There, their performance characteristics are excessive, and the cost is excessive. Simply put, in such cases, a machine is required, firstly, of a lighter class, and secondly, a multifunctional one, capable of performing both strike missions and providing air defense.

Progressing countries of the third world: India, Pakistan, the countries of the Middle East and Southeast Asia - economically acting as leaders of global development, have a strategic need to create "national" multifunctional aircraft. The conflicts in which Russia is involved also demonstrate the need for a compact, maneuverable, multifunctional medium-class vehicle with shock and air defense functions (especially in opposition to UAVs), allowing it to be used in conjunction with its own drones and air defense systems.

Thus, one of the most promising directions in the domestic and export markets is now the niche of a medium (according to the Russian classification - light) multifunctional fighter. And then the time comes for RSK MiG, since it is he, and not PJSC Sukhoi, who has the key competencies and experience in creating aircraft in this niche.

The future of Russian fighter aircraft


The Russian aviation industry is now on the verge of transformations in model and technological development, as well as in the choice of an effective corporate model that will allow it to develop further.

Su and MiG fighters, created on the basis of the Soviet reserve, form the basis of modern Russian fighter aircraft. The family of domestic heavy fighters of the fourth technological stage, created on the Su-27 platform, has evolved through a series of upgrades into a fifth-generation Su-5 fighter. But Sukhoi should not rest on what has been achieved. It is important to maintain the pace of modernization and technological progress, developing the next technological versions, as well as urgently mastering the UAV market.


RSK MiG is facing the challenge of a complete restart of its model range - using, of course, successful design solutions of the MiG-29 family of vehicles. The niche of a medium (light) multifunctional fighter is now the most promising in the domestic and world market.

This gives a definite advantage in the creation of promising models in the niche of heavy and medium multifunctional UAVs. In general, the UAV market will develop along two diverging lines - enlargement in order to create efficient multifunctional machines and reduce, as part of the development of the doctrine of "smart swarm" of ultra-small machines. Therefore, here "MiG" can also try to master its niche, for example, by creating an integrated model "Head-leading" with its multifunctional machine at the head.

Summary. Growth points


For PJSC Sukhoi: export version of the Su-57, Su-39 (drone killer, 4+ and 4 ++ generation subsonic vehicles based on the Su-25 and Su-24), heavy multifunctional UAVs.

For JSC RSK MiG: MiG-41, MiG-35 (and other 4+, 4 ++ and 5th generation vehicles based on the MiG-29), medium multifunctional UAVs.

This concludes the review of the state of affairs in the domestic military aviation industry, and in particular with two leading domestic developers and manufacturers of operational-tactical fighter (and bomber) aviation aircraft. All the best to all.
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  1. Orange bigg Offline Orange bigg
    Orange bigg (Alexander ) 8 March 2021 08: 40
    +1
    .For PJSC "Sukhoi": export version of the Su-57, Su-39 (drone killer, 4+ and 4 ++ generation subsonic vehicle based on the Su-25 and Su-24), heavy multifunctional UAVs.

    For JSC RSK MiG: MiG-41, MiG-35 (and other 4+, 4 ++ and 5th generation vehicles based on the MiG-29), medium multifunctional UAVs.

    In principle, everything is on the case. I agree. Only here I would also add the modernized Su-34M fighter-bomber, which is already being worked on. And so the MiG-41 interceptor, the Su-57 multifunctional heavy fighter, the MiG-35 light fighter, the Su-39 attack aircraft based on the Su-25, although I think its creation was abandoned in favor of the modernization of the Su-25.
  2. amateur Offline amateur
    amateur (Victor) 8 March 2021 08: 54
    +1
    Let me remind you that the only positive experience of creating a division - transport aviation - in the corporation was not noticed and used, and the division itself as a structure ceased to exist with the departure Alexey Rogozin from the post of general director of the Ilyushin Aviation Complex.

    Education (A.D.R.)
    In 2005 he graduated with honors from the Moscow State University of Economics, Statistics and Informatics.
    From 2005 to 2008 - graduate student of the Moscow State Institute of International Relations (University) of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
    Since 2013 - graduate student of Tula State University, applicant for the degree of candidate of technical sciences.
    2016 - professional retraining under the program "Industrial and Civil Construction", Academy of the Ministry of Construction of Russia "Roskapstroy" [2]

    In general, Alexey Dmitrievich is a clear luminary in the field of aircraft construction.
    I did not read this advertizing article further.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 8 March 2021 18: 38
      +3
      It reminds me of a situation when a person comes to the store to say that he will not buy anything from them ...
      Well, you don’t read, and don’t read, why are you notifying everyone about this ?! who are you personally interested in ?!
  3. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 8 March 2021 09: 07
    -1
    Quote: layman
    I did not read this advertizing article further.

    Hmm, and someone here pretendingly lamented about someone else's bad manners ... good
  4. Cyril Offline Cyril
    Cyril (Kirill) 8 March 2021 10: 39
    -1
    Not a bad article, but this one ...

    even the very fact of its appearance puts an end to the concept of AUG, which makes 11 American aircraft carrier strike groups nothing more than floating debris, a potential collective graveyard of the crews, air wing pilots and the US Marine Corps marines traveling with them around the world.

    When it comes to the authors that there is no one "superweapon" that - rrrraz! - and reduces the entire force of a huge flotilla to zero? Has Germany's experience with its hopes for a wunderwaffe taught nothing?
  5. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 8 March 2021 11: 23
    0
    Another praise for something there ...

    I immediately remembered:
    1) a PR company in the media - that these are not defective moments, but Algerians are rukozh ... And suddenly again about defects ... Someone was lying
    2) The super-manager of Putin's secret plan Serdyukov, who loves to drain everything, and build up the vacated area ... He again rules everything ...
    3) The lack of a cheap single-engine fighter in principle ...
    According to the media, the price of a light MIG is almost equal to the price of a heavy SU, what are the sales here ???

    4) And, of course, a super dagger, already virtually all victorious, but in reality did not even knock out the model .. (the brick will not answer, remember ???)
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 8 March 2021 18: 36
      0
      3) Lack of a cheap single-engine fighter in principle ...

      And these people teach us about life ?! they could not master the Russian language, but all the same
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 8 March 2021 23: 06
        0
        Someone is teaching you? It is necessary to rejoice !! (Vladimir Putin)

        And for O thank you ... There is still b ... specially inserted ...
  6. akarfoxhound Offline akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound 8 March 2021 13: 43
    +2
    The "donor" of the aircraft industry of PJSC Sukhoi, not without the help of comrade Pagosyan, in principle, bent the domestic aviation industry, shockingly raking off all the cash flows "for the development of the domestic aviation industry" on itself. Hence, the project of the same Superjet, which is deeply embedded in itself, and finished off the finished Tu-334 with a grout into the remotely memorable dust. Well, and other "nyashki" Deriban dough. Comrade There is no type of Pagosyan in Sukhoi now (just like Serdyukov was dismissed), but the "business" of his numerous Armenian relatives lives in PAO!
    1. A77 Offline A77
      A77 13 March 2021 14: 35
      +1
      Who is Pagosian?
      1. akarfoxhound Offline akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound 13 March 2021 17: 59
        0
        Mikhail Aslanovich Pogosyan (born April 18, 1956) - Russian aircraft designer and entrepreneur, Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences (2011), Doctor of Technical Sciences, Rector of the Moscow Aviation Institute (since 2016), former CEO of Sukhoi Company, former CEO of JSC RSK MiG, Former President of United Aircraft Corporation, Chairman of the Board of Directors of Sukhoi Civil Aircraft
        1. Starishok Offline Starishok
          Starishok (Novel) 4 May 2021 14: 25
          +1
          At one time, he made a lot of efforts, using his acquaintance at the top, to bury the MIG company.
    2. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
      igor.igorev (Igor) 15 March 2021 18: 57
      0
      Is it okay that more than 2 hundred Superjets have already been built and their production does not stop? We received modern technologies that were useful in the design of the MC-21.
      1. akarfoxhound Offline akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound 17 March 2021 17: 41
        0
        Technology with SSJ got the talk? Was it useful when designing? That is, based on your deep thoughts, you really have no relationship to aviation, except curiosity satisfied by the media. wink
        1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
          igor.igorev (Igor) 21 March 2021 18: 37
          0
          With whom do I have the honor of talking to? What did you graduate from?
          1. akarfoxhound Offline akarfoxhound
            akarfoxhound 24 March 2021 16: 27
            +1
            Higher military aviation (flight school and academy), 5 mastered types, the last two years of military retirement. positions in the Civil Air Fleet. In KNAAPO, by coincidence of working circumstances, I also had to "be present" several times.
            1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
              igor.igorev (Igor) 26 March 2021 10: 00
              0
              I see, ice-cold. You know the design of an airplane at the level of an elementary school student. How can you know anything about technology? you fly, you know this business, it is familiar to you. And do not meddle in the design of aircraft, do not disgrace yourself.
              After all, engineers do not advise you on how to correctly perform a slide or a combat turn? So you go about your business.
              By the way, there has been no GVF since the 60s. But it turns out that you were in charge of something. Probably led by hands?
          2. Starishok Offline Starishok
            Starishok (Novel) 4 May 2021 14: 21
            +1
            Dear Igor, I am also a pilot of civil aviation, the last position of PIC TU-154 of the airline "Russia" in the past 7th types from PO-2 in Sasovo YAK-12, AN-2, LI-2, AN-24 and both TUs, decent flying time more than 24000 t per hour. I have very carefully read the book by Valery Menitsky about MIG planes "My heavenly life" in it and about Fedotov, the leading test pilot of the MIG company, it has been told enough. the chassis, piercing the fuel tanks is wildness, the engines leave much to be desired, for the rest I can’t judge, you have to fly yourself, feel the plane, be in alterations, then everything will become clear.
  7. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 8 March 2021 19: 41
    -2
    When you read the history of the creation of some kind of military equipment, then, as a rule, the result of an assessment of its quality is a real WAR.
    There are many where and who does what and thinks that this is the best for me !! But the real combat use sums up the results.
    And the victory in the war is not even brought by the best aircraft or tank, but by the entire aggregate of forces called the Armed Forces plus the military-industrial complex.
  8. A77 Offline A77
    A77 13 March 2021 14: 34
    0
    MIG has flunked all projects and now all the opportunities for success are opening up for it
  9. Drinevsky A. Offline Drinevsky A.
    Drinevsky A. (Andrei) 15 March 2021 07: 00
    -1
    After the collapse of the Soviet Union, we lost our advanced competencies in almost all market segments, especially in terms of technology.

    The author is an ordinary aged Soviet propagandist. Precisely due to the fact that there were no advanced technologies in the USSR, it collapsed like a house of cards. They did not create advanced technologies in the USSR, with the exception of the military-industrial complex. NONE! Countries with "advanced technology" do not go bankrupt or fall apart in less than 70 years of their lives.
  10. commoner Offline commoner
    commoner (michael no) 15 March 2021 07: 04
    0
    Why are we still afraid of our own shadow? We are afraid to name the head of JSC RSK MiG, who brought the company to decline. We are afraid to even name the international evil - the Americans directly, we strive to "not offend ..." the neighboring country (whose name we all know) "...
  11. Netyn Offline Netyn
    Netyn (Netyn) 16 March 2021 01: 02
    0
    Hmm, the author knows about aviation, like Seryozha in the navy
    It's boring, some speculation and wet fantasies
    Do not be like Seryozha and Vova - do not write articles about what you do not understand
  12. Netyn Offline Netyn
    Netyn (Netyn) 16 March 2021 01: 04
    0
    Quote: Drinevsky A.
    Precisely due to the fact that there were no advanced technologies in the USSR, it collapsed like a house of cards.

    And you are an ordinary liar)