Russian shock Orion was appreciated in the USA: equal to Turkish Bayraktar


American experts from The War Zone magazine believe that the Russian Orion reconnaissance and strike drone is a direct analogue of the Turkish Bayraktar and the outdated American MQ-1 Predator.


According to the Americans, the Orions and Bayraktar TB2 have practically no competitors in their niche. However, Russia has organized a better system of selling and servicing its weapons than the Turks did, thanks to which Russian drones can become more widespread in the world. Turkish drones have proven themselves quite well during the recent military confrontation in Nagorno-Karabakh.

According to the experts of the American publication, such combat drones will become increasingly popular during military conflicts.

Agency RIA News citing sources in the Russian defense industry, reported on Monday, December 28, about the successful launch of guided small-sized missiles by Orion, as well as the use of guided gliding bombs by an unmanned vehicle. Earlier, the head of the Russian defense department Sergei Shoigu noted that such UAVs have already been transferred to service in the Russian Aerospace Forces.

The Orion UAV has been in development since 2011, it belongs to medium-altitude aircraft and can stay in the air for up to 1 day. The Orion's maximum take-off weight is about 1100 kg. The UAV can carry up to 250 kg of combat load.
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  1. updidi Offline updidi
    updidi (Alexander Kazakov) 29 December 2020 18: 15
    +2
    Oh, well, without such important information, of course, nothing.
    1. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 29 December 2020 20: 22
      +2
      Well, why, how many people here have been procrastinating that we have lagged behind everyone in the UAV forever.
      In a few years, we will be among the leaders.
      1. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) 29 December 2020 21: 01
        -4
        It's funny! laughing For a start, you will at least get to the level of the Turks.

        Quote: boriz
        American experts from The War Zone magazine believe that the Russian Orion reconnaissance and strike drone is a direct analogue of the Turkish Bayraktar and the outdated American MQ-1 Predator.

        Turkish drones fly with might and main, successfully destroy enemy personnel and equipment during the hostilities in Syria, Libya, Karabakh, and the Russian Orion has not yet shown itself in any way in a real war, so there is not the slightest reason for your optimism. About the fact that the Turks are far from being the leaders in this area, I am already silent. tongue
        1. boriz Offline boriz
          boriz (boriz) 30 December 2020 02: 34
          +8
          Life will show. Not so long ago, they also joked about cruise missiles, until the Calibers actually flew. MC 21 flies with engines better than Western ones. No outside help. And your entire military-industrial complex rests on the achievements and personnel of the USSR and the West. And we just stayed for 25 years.
          Laugh. Laughter for no reason ...
          1. Binder Offline Binder
            Binder (Miron) 30 December 2020 05: 46
            -1
            Quote: boriz
            Life will show. Not so long ago, they also joked about cruise missiles, until Calibers actually flew

            Regarding the "Calibers", the banter began after the famous volley from the Caspian Sea, when Iranian agrarians began to find in their areas the debris of missiles flying in the direction of Syria. In combination with the victorious reports of the Russian Defense Ministry, reporting on the number of destroyed headquarters, warehouses and other enemy facilities, it really looked ridiculous. Even the Arabs then joked: "Caliber" is the most accurate missile, where it will fall - there is the headquarters of the Islamists! "

            Quote: boriz
            Laugh. Laughter for no reason ...

            There are just enough reasons. laughing laughing laughing
            1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 30 December 2020 09: 24
              +3
              Quote: Bindyuzhnik
              Regarding the "Calibers", the banter began after the famous volley from the Caspian Sea, when Iranian agrarians began to find in their areas the debris of missiles flying in the direction of Syria. In combination with the victorious reports of the Russian Defense Ministry, reporting on the number of destroyed headquarters, warehouses and other enemy facilities, it really looked ridiculous. Even the Arabs then joked: "Caliber" is the most accurate missile, where it will fall - there is the headquarters of the Islamists! "

              We all have shoals, the main thing is to draw the right conclusions from them and not repeat. And about your chronic gloating about Russian failures, do you have any painful fad about this? winked
              1. Binder Offline Binder
                Binder (Miron) 30 December 2020 14: 47
                -1
                Quote: Marzhetsky
                about your chronic gloating about Russian failures, do you have a painful point about this?

                I just dislike liars and braggart.
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                2. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
                  Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 30 December 2020 21: 42
                  -1
                  I just dislike liars and braggart.

                  How can you not love yourself like that laughing
                  1. Binder Offline Binder
                    Binder (Miron) 30 December 2020 22: 14
                    +1
                    You have a very sickly sense of humor. lol
            2. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
              Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 30 December 2020 22: 14
              0
              Regarding the "Calibers", the banter began after the famous volley from the Caspian Sea, when Iranian agrarians began to find in a mass order the fragments of missiles flying in the direction of Syria.

              Photo of the missiles that fell where, can you prove? This fake was invented by the then US Secretary of Defense, and you repeat it like parrots
              1. Binder Offline Binder
                Binder (Miron) 30 December 2020 22: 24
                -1
                Googl to help you, you mistrust ours. Iranian bloggers then posted a lot of photographic materials. There was also a very piquant moment - the Persians saw Russian inscriptions on the wreckage and, due to their low education, decided that it was Hebrew, and the wreckage, respectively, of an Israeli drone. What to take from them - darkness, Russian and Hebrew are not distinguished ... laughing
                1. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
                  Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 31 December 2020 01: 07
                  +1
                  Googl to help you

                  In addition to links to such garbage dumps as CNN, BBC and the like, there is nothing. They write 4 rockets fell. Even if this is true, then this is a mere trifle, given that 99 "Calibers" have been produced in Syria all the time. You, too, in 2018 "presented" to the Syrians an anti-missile missile from "David's Sling" after an unsuccessful attempt to intercept "Tochka-U" and which did not self-destruct, or do you not notice the log in your own eye?
                  1. Peter rybak Offline Peter rybak
                    Peter rybak (Patrol) 31 December 2020 08: 54
                    +1
                    Quote: Stanislav Bykov
                    In addition to links to such garbage dumps as CNN, BBC and the like, there is nothing ...

                    Totally agree with you. Your opponent is taking information in the wrong place. These CNN, BBC, Daily Mirror, NT, etc. - the most real garbage dumps. No, to get useful news about the present in Russia Today, Vesti, Solovyov Live, Russia 24 and many other true carriers of information loved by all our people and their prominent representatives.
                    But what to take from Bindyuzhnik?
          2. Cyril Offline Cyril
            Cyril (Kirill) 30 December 2020 09: 54
            -3
            MC 21 flies with engines better than Western ones.

            Can you provide a comparison of specific characteristics that confirm this?

            And your entire military-industrial complex rests on the achievements and personnel of the USSR and the West.

            Proof of?
        2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 30 December 2020 09: 21
          +5
          Quote: Bindyuzhnik
          Turkish drones fly with might and main, successfully destroy enemy personnel and equipment during the hostilities in Syria, Libya, Karabakh, and the Russian Orion has not yet shown itself in any way in a real war, so there is not the slightest reason for your optimism. About the fact that the Turks are far from being the leaders in this area, I am already silent.

          Russians harness for a long time, but drive fast. tongue
          I remember that you personally said that Russia would not have unmanned aircraft in principle for another 10-15 years.
          1. Cyril Offline Cyril
            Cyril (Kirill) 30 December 2020 09: 42
            -2
            Well, strictly speaking, the 3 units of this Orion put into service (more precisely, a contract has been signed for them so far) does not mean that Russia has its own unmanned aircraft.
            1. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
              Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 30 December 2020 21: 39
              +2
              this does not mean that Russia has its own unmanned aircraft

              You and Bindyuzhnik are two ordinary balabols, which you have successfully confirmed now, you talk about what you do not know at all, but pass off your conjectures as reality
              https://rg.ru/2020/12/23/bolee-900-bespilotnikov-poluchila-rossijskaia-armiia-s-2012-goda.html
              1. Cyril Offline Cyril
                Cyril (Kirill) 31 December 2020 12: 27
                -1
                The bulk of our (Russian) drones are light drones, medium ones are represented either by imported machines or Russian samples created on their basis (there are fewer of them), but heavy strike or reconnaissance drones are still in their infancy.

                I'm not saying that we have no drones at all, but even Israel and Turkey are still behind in this.
          2. Binder Offline Binder
            Binder (Miron) 30 December 2020 14: 48
            -3
            Did she appear? request
        3. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
          Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 30 December 2020 21: 52
          0
          Turkish drones fly with might and main, successfully destroy enemy personnel and equipment during the hostilities in Syria, Libya, Karabakh,

          From the Turkish there is only a name, without Western components, now let's see how effective they are.

          Orion has not yet shown itself in any way

          How do you know whether he has proved himself or not, you might think that they will report to you first of all.
          1. Binder Offline Binder
            Binder (Miron) 30 December 2020 22: 17
            -3
            Quote: Stanislav Bykov
            How do you know whether he has proven himself or not, you might think that they will report to you first of all

            In a way, I am supposed to know by position. hi
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        4. Chernomorr Offline Chernomorr
          Chernomorr (Roman Petrov) 5 February 2021 07: 17
          0
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          ----
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          1. Chernomorr Offline Chernomorr
            Chernomorr (Roman Petrov) 5 February 2021 07: 59
            0
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            Secretary - Keeper of Secrets
            Sir - Keeper of Destiny
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            ----
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            1. Chernomorr Offline Chernomorr
              Chernomorr (Roman Petrov) 5 February 2021 08: 33
              0
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              Work - Shine, glow, radiate energy
              Ara B - keeping the radiance of God
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              etc. etc...
              1. Chernomorr Offline Chernomorr
                Chernomorr (Roman Petrov) 5 February 2021 08: 42
                0
                And by the way, human Aura, biofield, Blue color
                S - Word, Radiance is one and the same, energy flow
                And - (Izhe) - Life
                N - Our
                Radiance of Our Life - BLUE
                ----
                Indigo children.
                Indigo, it's between blue and purple if sho
          2. Binder Offline Binder
            Binder (Miron) 5 February 2021 08: 04
            -1
            Your language fantasies have nothing to do with reality.
            1. Chernomorr Offline Chernomorr
              Chernomorr (Roman Petrov) 5 February 2021 08: 51
              0
              The reality is that EB REY is a student. Now live with it.
              1. Binder Offline Binder
                Binder (Miron) 5 February 2021 16: 24
                -1
                This reality takes place only in your fevered imagination. There are absolutely reliable explanations for the origin of the word Jew in Russian, read it and do not bother yourself with nonsense. hi
      2. Barmaley_2 Offline Barmaley_2
        Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) 30 December 2020 01: 10
        -1
        Don't say gop ... Already with Armat and so on. got out. It is not clear only where
  2. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 29 December 2020 20: 51
    +5
    However, Russia has organized a better system of sales and service of its weapons than the Turks did.

    First of all, Russia has established production, moreover, it does not depend on its components, from the mercy of Canadians and others, thanks to which it can become more widespread in the world, because Turkish-assembled drones can get "not only everything."

    It's quite funny to listen to obsolete aircraft, they say the tests of the "super-duper-missile" have failed again, hypersound remains beyond the control of the hegemordor laughing

    https://iz.ru/1103881/2020-12-24/ssha-provalili-ispytaniia-giperzvukovoi-super-puper-rakety
    1. Winnie Offline Winnie
      Winnie (Winnie) 6 January 2021 01: 59
      0
      tests of the "super-duper-missile" failed again, hypersound remains beyond the control of the hegemordor
      https://iz.ru/1103881/2020-12-24/ssha-provalili-ispytaniia-giperzvukovoi-super-puper-rakety

      The Russians can only dream of hypersonic missiles and whistle.
      https://topwar.ru/177899-oniks-vmesto-cirkona.html
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 6 January 2021 02: 13
        +1
        The Russians can only dream of hypersonic missiles and whistle.

        You can print your article from the link and nail it on the wall in the restroom. Reread in the morning. laughing
        1. Winnie Offline Winnie
          Winnie (Winnie) 6 January 2021 13: 16
          0
          You can print your article from the link and nail it on the wall in the restroom. Reread in the morning.

          Nah, this link should be written on the forehead of broadcasters about breakthroughs. lol
          So that people understand the difference between words and reality.
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 6 January 2021 18: 22
            +1
            Nah, this link should be written on the forehead of broadcasters about breakthroughs.
            So that people understand the difference between words and reality.

            Do you understand it yourself? Send an article to the Pentagon, calm people down. Let them sleep well, there is no rocket. About HI Sutton said. laughing
  3. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 29 December 2020 22: 41
    +1
    Breakthrough again !!!!

    However, Russia has organized a better system of sales and service of its weapons than the Turks did.

    I wonder where Russia managed to sell them ??? Ahead of the Turks?
    Again, the Americans know what we have classified?
  4. Barmaley_2 Offline Barmaley_2
    Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) 30 December 2020 01: 12
    -3
    Yeah. There was only one little thing left - to organize the production of not piece goods, but to sell them in hundreds, like the Turks. I think that in 10 years they will catch up with them. Interestingly, and to whom have they already been sold, if only recently only one set was transferred to the RF Armed Forces?
    1. Ser sash Offline Ser sash
      Ser sash (Ser Sash) 30 December 2020 08: 31
      +1
      The Turks fixed the screwdriver assembly. No components - no Bayraktars.
      Iran also produces UAVs, including drums.
      1. Barmaley_2 Offline Barmaley_2
        Barmaley_2 (Barmaley) 30 December 2020 13: 38
        -2
        To begin with, let at least, as you think, the screwdriver assembly will be adjusted, made and sold several hundred Bayraktars. And by the way, for example, the Rotax engine on the Orion prototype. The Russian analogue is only in development
  5. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 30 December 2020 09: 42
    -1
    Why haven't you heard anything about Orion in Syria? When there are no examples of successful application, it is difficult to believe what is written.
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    2. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 30 December 2020 11: 51
      +1
      After all, one must justify himself in order to blur the completely indecent lag, so they ordered to send several components to the troops that were in stock (on which money was sawed). The main thing here is to trumpet the success, because everything is very unsightly. And of course, we ourselves understand that it is necessary to make up, the roast rooster began to peck ...
  6. Termit1309 Offline Termit1309
    Termit1309 (Alexander) 30 December 2020 12: 14
    +1
    Bayraktar tb2
    Payload: up to 150 kg payload [8], including 55 kg - a standard module of the electro-optical surveillance system and laser target designation

    For d ...., oh analytegs. The combat load is about 100 kilograms. In the First World War, aeroplans had large performance characteristics. Come on, blakit clever guys, tell us about the spaceships that roam the vast theater.
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