Greek press: Moscow is tense because of the missile agreement between Ukraine and Turkey


Moscow is tense over the missile agreement between Kiev and Ankara. Russia sensed a threat in this agreement, writes the Greek edition Pentapostagma.


The Kremlin doesn't like the Turkish-Ukrainian defense alliance. Turkey has long dreamed of its own delivery vehicles and a nuclear arsenal. The Turks are currently trying to create an analogue of the American Tomahawk cruise missile. But Russia is not interested in missiles appearing on the territories adjacent to its borders.

With critical missile technology Ukrainians will help the Turks. SE "Ivchenko-Progress" (Zaporozhye) is to supply 2021 AI-12 turbojet engines to Turkey within 35. They are necessary for the implementation of the Turkish Gezgin cruise missile project. The AI-35 weighs 61 kg and creates a thrust of 310 kgf, so that the range of the new missile can be about 1 km.

Ankara will pay for the supply of power units not only with money, but also with its drones. It will probably be Bayraktar TB2. After that, Ukraine can start to threaten Donbass.

Thanks to the Turks, SE "Ivchenko-Progress" ordered the production of components for the MS-400 turbojet engines, which are installed on the Ukrainian anti-ship missiles "Neptune". Therefore, very soon Ukraine will be able to establish mass production of its missiles and start developing new ones.

Prior to that, Turkey purchased Ukrainian AI-450C turboprop engines for its large Akıncı drones. All this indicates that military-technical cooperation between Kiev and Ankara is developing.

However, according to Russian military expert Sergei Khatylev, the Turkish missile program is far from being implemented. He stressed that we can only talk about the appearance of prototypes in 2021, then the first tests will be carried out. It will take another 2-3 years to organize serial production. But by 2024, the new rocket will most likely not be able to confirm the declared flight range of 1 km.

The Israelis were once going to buy this engine because it is for drones and precision weapons, but they did not.

- added Khatylev.

This indicates that military-technical cooperation with Ukraine is extremely important for Turkey, the Greek press summed up.
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  1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
    Just a cat (Bayun) 27 December 2020 17: 57
    +1
    They have already updated the Turkish tanks ... in the first battle they burned everything.
  2. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 27 December 2020 18: 07
    +3
    The Kremlin doesn't like the Turkish-Ukrainian defense alliance. Turkey has long dreamed of its own delivery vehicles and a nuclear arsenal. The Turks are currently trying to create an analogue of the American Tomahawk cruise missile. But Russia is not interested in missiles appearing on the territories adjacent to its borders.

    Are the Greeks delighted with him? laughing Are they interested in the Turkish missiles?
    1. Uneven Offline Uneven
      Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 27 December 2020 18: 25
      -13%
      Russia should have thought about the possible consequences of its adventures back in 2014. But apparently there was no one to "think" and (or) nothing ... And now it's too late to drink Borjomi ...
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 27 December 2020 18: 37
        +1
        Russia should have thought about the possible consequences of its adventures back in 2014. But apparently there was no one to "think" and (or) nothing ... And now it's too late to drink Borjomi ...

        That is, if not for the Crimea, the Turks would not have started making rockets? Did I understand you correctly? smile
        Do you want me to remind you of your adventure? In 2008, it was necessary to think and not with what they sit on, and now be glad that you got off easily. Until...
        1. Uneven Offline Uneven
          Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 28 December 2020 09: 08
          -7
          Russia overshadowed Ukraine, making this fraternal state a bitter enemy along the way. Of course, it was not easy, but the Kremlin succeeded. It is necessary to think that the next hole for the state order was drilled by the Kremlin remand in 2014.
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 28 December 2020 09: 32
            +4
            Russia overshadowed Ukraine, along the way making this fraternal state a bitter enemy. Of course, it was not easy, but the Kremlin succeeded.

            First of all, Ukraine itself has failed. Minus 15 million. Population in 30 years, Decline of the economy, destroyed infrastructure. For all the people to speak, you take a lot on yourself. The same, smaller part of it, about which you speak, has never been friendly to us.
            And now you say - look at what we have become. let you be ashamed. First of all, you should be ashamed. Becoming a bedspread for the Nazis and looking for an excuse for yourself is not the best thing to do.

            It is necessary to think that the next hole for the state order was drilled by the Kremlin remand in 2014.

            This garbage is not held in high esteem laughing It is proud of the praise of the overseas owners "your everything"... This is approximately the same as in the video filmed by a foreign agent and clearly embellishes the picture. Look at this man, he is proud that he was mentioned by some overseas bourgeois. Slavery is flourishing. Just a shamenegative

            1. Uneven Offline Uneven
              Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 28 December 2020 09: 56
              -6
              1) What is the reason for your so close attention to Ukrainian issues and complete indifference to Russian issues?
              Do you think that all problems have already been resolved in Russia?
              2) Splashing saliva under the screams of "Nazism" gushing out from under the Vlasov rag is akin to preaching about the integrity of the brothel mistress.
              3) "This garbage is not held in high esteem"
              Not at all!

              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 28 December 2020 10: 20
                +3
                What is the reason for your so close attention to Ukrainian issues and complete indifference to Russian issues?
                Do you think that all problems have already been resolved in Russia?

                What is it like? belay You came to the "Russian site" to discuss the appearance of missiles from Turkey .... What about your problems? repeat that's what I wrote to you.

                Splashing saliva under the screams of "Nazism" gushing out from under the Vlasov rag is akin to preaching about the purity of the brothel mistress.

                Splashing saliva? You like living in a pigsty well, okay, enjoy. Vlasov is over, that bastard, he spoiled the reputation of the flag of Peter the Great's times, but at least we do not erect monuments to him and do not declare him a hero. It's certainly not like your Swedish footcloth. laughing

                "This garbage is not held in high esteem"
                Not at all!

                You are partly right, the deputies are still a bunch, fortunately their role is secondary. But they are far from you. wink

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=56
                1. Uneven Offline Uneven
                  Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 28 December 2020 12: 01
                  -7
                  1) You have not explained to me why all the "tensions of Russia" remain outside the sphere of your interests, while you study Ukrainian issues under a microscope?
                  Do you have Ukrainian citizenship? Or something there? ...
                  2) Do you think that the existing problems outside the Russian borders can somehow justify the anti-Russian activities of the Russian leadership?
                  3)
                  At least we don't put monuments to him

                  And why is this one better? https://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2020/04/27/n_14348443.shtml
                  https://www.eg.ru/society/13652/
                  And we have different opinions about Vlasov:



                  4) By the way, Bandera (unlike the same Vlasov) fought for an independent Ukraine. (Quite in line with Lenin's idea of ​​the right of nations to self-determination.) It was for this that he was put behind bars by the German fascists.
                  Vlasov is a purely collaborator - an accomplice of the invaders of his own country.
                  1. 123 Offline 123
                    123 (123) 28 December 2020 15: 41
                    +2
                    You have not explained to me why all the "Russian tensions" remain outside the sphere of your interests, while you study Ukrainian issues under a microscope?

                    I am giving you illustrative examples. All our "stress" in comparison with yours are just flowers, in my opinion it is not for you to teach us about life.

                    Do you think that the existing problems outside the Russian borders can somehow justify the anti-Russian activities of the Russian leadership?

                    I think you have a disgusting way of asking strange questions. I would like to ask you a counter.
                    What do you think contributes more to the degradation of Ukraine, corruption and corruption of the authorities, theft of officials, the dominance of oligarchs in the remnants of the economy, or the hopeless stupidity of "revolutionaries", which of these factors most contributes to the extinction of Ukraine and brings the collapse of the economy closer?

                    Why is this one better?

                    I find it difficult to answer because the link does not open request

                    And we have different opinions about Vlasov:

                    You shouldn't have hung the video, the opinions of the bastards don't interest me, what kind of chuchundra it is and what it carries is not interesting. We have one opinion about Vlasov - an aspen stake in his grave.

                    By the way, Bandera (unlike the same Vlasov) fought for an independent Ukraine. (Quite in line with Lenin's idea of ​​the right of nations to self-determination.)

                    Two lackeys of one owner, what are the differences? I do not intend to disassemble the varieties of feces. What could a Polish citizen fight for in the German service?
                    How is it that you get two-faced, how is it "in line with the Leninist idea", and demolish monuments, rename streets and cities. Ingratitude is characteristic of the Selyuk.

                    It was for this that he was imprisoned by the German fascists.

                    And why did not you tell me you were released? smile

                    Vlasov is a purely collaborator - an accomplice of the invaders of his own country.

                    Here I completely agree with you. See we have so much in common laughing
                    1. Uneven Offline Uneven
                      Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 28 December 2020 19: 00
                      -3
                      All our "voltages" compared to yours ...

                      You started to "compare". Since you are comparing with Ukraine, and not with Somalia, we can conclude that it is Ukraine that is closest to you.

                      I think you have a disgusting way of asking strange questions. I would like to ask you a counter.
                      What do you think contributes more to the degradation of Ukraine ...

                      Oh no! Only in order: Question - answer.
                      And (preferably) not about Ukraine, because, being a local aborigine, you already know how things are in Kiev much better than me. And I was there last time as a child ...

                      I find it difficult to answer because the link does not open

                      I understand that Gazeta.ru could have been blocked in Ukraine. I will help (briefly):
                      “TV presenter Dmitry Kiselev explained his words about the need to erect in Russia a monument to the leader of the White movement, Peter Krasnov, who collaborated with the Nazis during the Second World War. >
                      27.04.2020/16/54 | XNUMX:XNUMX>
                      <A monument was erected to General Krasnov in Russia>
                      <Nikita Sokolov, a representative of the Yeltsin Center - about the rehabilitation of "Vlasovites".

                      And why won't you tell me?

                      With pleasure!
                      On July 5, 1941, one of the leaders of Ukrainian nationalists, Stepan Bandera, was arrested by the German authorities in Krakow. For a year and a half, Bandera was held in the Krakow police prison, after which he was transferred to the Sachsenhausen camp.
                      The German command revised its attitude towards Bandera only towards the end of 1944, when the Soviet army drove the Nazis from the territory of Western Ukraine. The Germans were in dire need of any help. Bandera was released from Sachsenhausen on September 25, 1944, and the Nazis were ready to compromise.
                      Bandera, agreed to accept the offer of cooperation with one condition: the German leadership must recognize the "Act of the revival of the Ukrainian state" and ensure the creation of independent armed forces of Ukraine. However, the German side was not ready to go that far.
                      1. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 28 December 2020 20: 22
                        +3
                        You started to "compare". Since you are comparing with Ukraine, and not with Somalia, we can conclude that it is Ukraine that is closest to you.

                        It is not so interesting to compare with Somalia, they often have higher indicators, the difference is not so clear laughing By the way, I look and you are not on the Sami site repeat

                        Oh no! Only in order: Question - answer.
                        And (preferably) not about Ukraine, because, being a local aborigine, you already know how things are in Kiev much better than me. And I was there last time as a child ...

                        Why did you scare me as an Aboriginal? belay You were so drowning for the Ukrainian regime, and now it turns out that you are our local Svidomo home spill?

                        I understand that Gazeta.ru could have been blocked in Ukraine.

                        We have a lot of Ukrainians in Siberia, but not enough to rename it to Ukraine laughing

                        I will help (briefly):

                        Don't bother, providing a normal link is enough.

                        TV presenter Dmitry Kiselev explained his words about the need to erect a monument in Russia to the leader of the White movement Pyotr Krasnov

                        Found this article yes

                        “The idea was not to erect a monument to Krasnov. All the figures that have been named are named conditionally. It is necessary to erect monuments to completely different people.

                        https://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2020/04/27/n_14348443.shtml

                        The citizen realized that he blurted out too much and handed it back laughing

                        A monument to General Krasnov was erected in Russia

                        Disgrace, as far as I know, he still stands, only the plaque was removed that the monument to him. I suppose it should be dismantled. To be honest, I don’t know what the problem is.

                        Nikita Sokolov, a representative of the Yeltsin Center - on the rehabilitation of the Vlasovites

                        How many times do I repeat to you, I'm not interested in what a bastard thinks, I'm not going to read or watch this here .... and I am not at all interested in his opinion.

                        Yes, we have enough of all sorts of bastards, fortunately they do not allow her to turn around. I do not observe the demolition of monuments and renaming of streets.

                        With pleasure!

                        It gives you pleasure to talk about it here .. belay

                        Bandera, agreed to accept the offer of cooperation with one condition: the German leadership must recognize the "Act of Revival of the Ukrainian State" and ensure the creation of independent armed forces of Ukraine. However, the German side was not ready to go that far.

                        Are you ready to make compromises with the person sitting in the cell? Do not make me laugh laughing
                        That is, he accepted the offer of cooperation without any conditions. laughing What is the difference between him and Vlasov? Preserved footage of archival newsreels where Stepan proudly lifted his forelock read out his demands to the camp administration? Come this svidomo bikes from the cache?
              2. Piramidon Offline Piramidon
                Piramidon (Stepan) 28 December 2020 14: 05
                +4
                Quote: Uneven
                Do you think that all problems have already been resolved in Russia?

                How is it in the spirit of a broad Ukrainian, to jump off an uncomfortable topic when they tell him the truth and turn the arrows to someone else. negative Turkish-Ukrainian relations and an article about them are discussed here
                1. Uneven Offline Uneven
                  Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 28 December 2020 15: 44
                  -4
                  Do you think that all problems have already been resolved in Russia?

                  Can't you answer this question?
                  Do you care about Ukrainian problems more?
                  Why?
                  1. Piramidon Offline Piramidon
                    Piramidon (Stepan) 28 December 2020 18: 24
                    +1
                    Quote: Uneven
                    Do you think that all problems have already been resolved in Russia?

                    Can't you answer this question?
                    Do you care about Ukrainian problems more?
                    Why?

                    No need to flood. When we discuss the article on the problems of Russia, then I will answer such questions.
                    1. Uneven Offline Uneven
                      Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 29 December 2020 09: 34
                      -3
                      Since, according to the title, Russia is "straining", it is her problem. They should have been discussed, and not turned over to Ukraine for any reason.
                  2. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
                    Ulysses (Alexey) 28 December 2020 22: 57
                    +1
                    Personally, it is interesting for me to observe the chubaty, stepping on the same rake with the stubbornness of proto-ukrov. (Maidans)
                    Why did the Almighty dislike you so much?
  3. Taisiya Offline Taisiya
    Taisiya (Taisiya) 27 December 2020 18: 57
    +4
    The Ukrainians love to sing their praises to themselves. Its independence and powerful potential. The dreamers.
    I remember that Putin has already answered the Ukrainians: "if they rock the boat, they will lose their statehood."
    And Erdogan also answered that the position of Turkey on the ownership of the Crimea is not interesting to us.
    Russia's interests in this matter are "reliably protected."
    1. Uneven Offline Uneven
      Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 28 December 2020 09: 12
      -5
      If you really find it difficult not to confuse Ukrainians with Greeks, how do you manage to distinguish them from Russians?
  4. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
    Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 27 December 2020 21: 57
    +3
    Moscow strained over Ukraine-Turkey missile agreement

    No more than a boa constrictor in front of a rabbit.
    1. Uneven Offline Uneven
      Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 28 December 2020 09: 13
      -4
      Of course! She just bravely hides ...
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 28 December 2020 09: 37
        +1
        Of course! She just bravely hides ...

        "Boa constrictor" is full and resting, you can frolic and sing songs for now. You can join your neighbor.

        1. Uneven Offline Uneven
          Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 28 December 2020 10: 02
          -4
          If Lukashenka had the potential of Russia, the world would have been different.
          From problems - to the bushes is not his style ...
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 28 December 2020 10: 24
            +3
            If Lukashenka had the potential of Russia, the world would have been different.
            From problems - to the bushes is not his style ...

            There are certain physiological differences between grandparents. The world would be really different. Fortunately, this did not happen.
            And as for the potential of Russia, those wishing to queue up, Walesa also somehow reasoned that he could with such potential. Create your own and influence the world as you please, if of course you can. smile
            1. Uneven Offline Uneven
              Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 28 December 2020 11: 29
              -5
              The world would be really different. Luckily this did not happen

              If and "fortunately", then clearly not the population of Russia.
              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 28 December 2020 11: 47
                +4
                If and "fortunately", then clearly not the population of Russia.

                We do not need your "happiness", we are not bad anyway. Take it for yourself, everything is better than your "figures" combinedlaughing
                1. Uneven Offline Uneven
                  Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 28 December 2020 15: 47
                  -4
                  No need for everyone.
                  1. 123 Offline 123
                    123 (123) 28 December 2020 15: 51
                    +3
                    No need for everyone.

                    I'm here on the spot as something better than you because of the wall named "Yaytsenyukha". hi
                    1. Uneven Offline Uneven
                      Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 28 December 2020 18: 33
                      -3
                      1) It depends on which side of this wall you are located ...
                      2) <On May 24, the Public Opinion Research Center published data according to which Vladimir Putin took first place in the trust rating. However, his figure of 31,7% is the worst result in 13 years>. To remedy the situation, VTsIOM calculated Putin's rating after a poll using a new method. It has grown by almost 2,5 times. > (31.05.2019 12:17)
                      https://m.fontanka.ru/2019/05/31/044/
                      And you say - Everything ...
                      1. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 28 December 2020 19: 28
                        +2
                        It depends on which side of this wall you are located ...

                        With the correct yes

                        On May 24, the Public Opinion Research Center published data according to which Vladimir Putin took first place in the trust rating. However, his figure of 31,7% is the worst result in 13 years>. To remedy the situation, VTsIOM calculated Putin's rating after a poll using a new method. It has grown almost 2,5 times

                        Free advice, do not use garbage sites like fountains, there are primary sources

                        For January-May of this year the level of approval for the work of Vladimir Putin as president rose from 61,7% to 64,5%

                        https://wciom.ru/analytical-reviews/analiticheskii-obzor/rejtingi-doveriya-politikam-oczenki-raboty-prezidenta-i-pravitelstva-podderzhka-politicheskikh-partij-42

                        Where can you see the published data from 31,7% ??? smile

                        And you say - Everything ...
                      2. Uneven Offline Uneven
                        Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 29 December 2020 09: 54
                        -2
                        2020% of Russians declared their confidence in Vladimir Putin in March 28,3, VTsIOM reported. This is a record low since January 2006, when VTsIOM began conducting such a study. In December 2019, the level of trust in Putin was for the first time below 30% - 29,8%. In January, it rose to 30,6%, but in February fell again to 29%.
                        VTsIOM began measuring trust in Putin in a new way. Earlier, its level fell to a minimum in 13 years.
                        "The open question is more about memory and information activity than about trust, unfortunately. I would stop asking this question at all, but if I stop asking it, they will start to suspect me of some terrible things," the general director of VTsIOM told Forbes then Valery Fedorov.

                        https://www.forbes.ru/newsroom/obshchestvo/399199-uroven-doveriya-k-putinu-upal-do-minimuma-za-14-let
                        https://wciom.ru/ratings/doverie-politikam/

                        Just now you mentioned one of the Russian TV channels with a three-letter name as your source of information.
                        How exactly did he earn your trust?
                      3. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 29 December 2020 11: 44
                        +1
                        2020% of Russians declared their confidence in Vladimir Putin in March 28,3, VTsIOM reported

                        Where is the source? Please be so kind as to refer to the VTsIOM statement. According to the link from the Forbes article you quoted, the rating is more than 66%.

                        https://wciom.ru/ratings/doverie-politikam/

                        Just now you mentioned one of the Russian TV channels with a three-letter name as your source of information.
                        How exactly did he earn your trust?

                        Are these three letters so terrible for you that you dare not pronounce? laughing And which one? As a rule, I use several sources, I give links without special selection. Which I recommend to you too. The most reliable source is the source, for several publications can retell the nonsense voiced by any garbage. The case with the GDP rating is very indicative. The primary source VTsIOM gives data of more than 66%, clearly not the pro-government Levada Center 68% with a drop to 63%. Where did 28% come from? request But you don't care about such little things, right? The "ideologically correct" figure is voiced and you are running around with it like a fool with a mortar, not a little worrying about its reliability. Try to see for yourself, it's not difficult, in the article the link is highlighted in the first paragraph, click on the word "reported". If you follow these guidelines, you won't look so stupid next time. hi
                      4. Uneven Offline Uneven
                        Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 29 December 2020 12: 49
                        -2
                        1) I hope you have already figured out the "primary source"?
                        Did you reach the remark of VTsIOM general director Valery Fedorov?
                        And carefully analyzed ALL charts?
                        The main idea is that the correction of not politically correct numbers is going on at times. To do this, you just need to change the CALCULATION METHOD. One can imagine the extent to which the election results are "corrected", where the rates are somewhat different than in ordinary polls.
                        2)
                        Are these three letters so terrible for you that you dare not pronounce?

                        There is no desire to advertise this garbage once again.
                      5. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 29 December 2020 15: 20
                        0
                        I hope you have already figured out the "primary source"?
                        Did you reach the remark of VTsIOM general director Valery Fedorov?
                        And carefully analyzed ALL charts?

                        That you are so mysterious smile What exactly was I supposed to find?

                        The main idea is that the correction of not politically correct numbers is going on at times. To do this, you just need to change the CALCULATION METHOD. One can imagine the extent to which the election results are "corrected", where the rates are somewhat different than in ordinary polls.

                        Let's not get high-flown phrases, specifically, the graph (figure) does not correlate with the graph (figure) and so on.

                        There is no desire to advertise this garbage once again.

                        But you have a desire to advertise all kinds of abomination and filth.
                      6. Uneven Offline Uneven
                        Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 30 December 2020 06: 59
                        -3
                        1) I hope you figured out the "ratings"?
                        2) On the day of the presidential election (2018), VTsIOM published the data of exit polls (polls of voters) in real time. At approximately 11-00 Moscow time, the site was closed. By this time, approximately 30% of the population had voted. For Putin was 24%, for Grudinin - 51%. In the evening, we were told that 76% were for Putin.
                      7. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 30 December 2020 12: 10
                        +1
                        I hope you figured it out with the "ratings"?

                        I figured out with them for a long time, what your problems are not clear request Say that you do not understand, I will build up to help you figure it out yes

                        On the day of the presidential election (2018), VTsIOM published data of exit polls (polls of voters) in real time. At about 11-00 Moscow time, the site was closed. By this time, approximately 30% of the population had voted. For Putin was 24%, for Grudinin - 51%. In the evening, we were told that 76% were for Putin.

                        Really? belay And where can you see more about it? What screenshot you have? smile What not? belay
                        Let's see what they write about the elections ...

                        For example, clearly not the pro-Kremlin Levada Center

                        The presidential campaign was boring and in this it strongly resembled the parliamentary one. Without a serious political struggle, public opinion practically did not change. The result was clear to any inexperienced observer long before voting day.

                        https://www.levada.ru/2018/03/29/sotsiologiya-vyborov-2/

                        And here is the mouthpiece of the German government DW ..

                        No one in Germany doubted the victory of Vladimir Putin in the presidential elections in the Russian Federation. German experts in conversation with DW discussed only the score of the "orchestrated" vote.

                        Very strange? that they did not notice the event you are describing request you for an hour ... no matter how delicate it is ... do not compose sad
                      8. Uneven Offline Uneven
                        Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 30 December 2020 12: 34
                        -2
                        1)
                        I figured out with them for a long time, what your problems are not clear

                        I hope.

                        2) HERE the numbers are about the same, since the stream was in real time, there is a slight difference, but the trend is clear:

                        Since the morning of March 18, the official page of the poll of voters who have already voted (the so-called exit polls) functioned on the website of the Central Election Commission, from which some concerned citizens managed to take screenshots. On this website, on the morning of voting day, the Central Election Commission began to publish the results of these polls, which were carried out by two organizations - VTsIOM and the Public Opinion Foundation.
                        At first, secondary employees from the staff of the Central Election Commission were assigned to monitor these exit polls. As a result, at 11 o'clock Moscow time on March 18, when the voter turnout had already reached 30 percent, a poll of voters showed that Putin received 37 percent of the vote, and Grudinin - 42 percent.
                        By five o'clock, voter turnout approached 56 percent. And after a few moments, figures appeared: Putin had 52 percent, and Grudinin had 40.
                        Meanwhile, the CEC was winding up everything and increasing the turnout. And it increased by 4 percent in one hour (from 56% at 17.00 to 60% at 18.00). At the same time, the number of votes cast for Putin increased from 52 percent at 17.00 to 73,9 at 18.00.

                        https://omsk-kprf.ru/redway/cto-za-krikami-o-pobede
                      9. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 30 December 2020 12: 46
                        +1
                        I hope.

                        What are you hoping for? You are still avoiding a direct answer and getting off with general phrases. Let's not pour water. Specifically, graph, percentages, correlation, graph, percentages. Or I will assume that you lied and evaded the answer hi

                        I looked at your link, not convincing.
                        First, where are those screenshots? Where can you see them?

                        some caring citizens managed to take screenshots.

                        Secondly, why weren't foreign observers and organizations directly interested in stirring up the scandal noticed?

                        In addition to the links above, here is another OSCE report on this election.
                        https://www.osce.org/ru/odihr/elections/386121

                        The situation repeats itself, you find on the Internet the opinions of crazy freaks, you think this is the ultimate truth and wonder why others do not follow your example. It looks pretty unsightly. No.
                      10. Uneven Offline Uneven
                        Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 30 December 2020 12: 55
                        -2
                        1)
                        What are you hoping for? you are still avoiding a direct answer and getting off with general phrases. let's not pour water. Specifically, graph, percentages, correlation, graph, percentages.

                        I pointed to the primary source - the VTsIOM website. From my point of view, there is comprehensive information. Everything depends on your unwillingness to perceive it.

                        2) Regarding the results of the "election", I, by and large, do not even need to refer to someone, since I personally observed this dynamic. And I am absolutely indifferent to how this or that character or publication relates to this fact.
                      11. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 30 December 2020 13: 00
                        0
                        I pointed to the primary source - the VTsIOM website. From my point of view, there is comprehensive information. Everything depends on your unwillingness to perceive it.

                        So there will be no indication of specific figures and graphs? Well then do not blame me, I will assume that you lied and have nothing to say to you request

                        Regarding the results of the "elections", I, by and large, do not even need to refer to someone, since I personally observed this dynamics. And I am absolutely indifferent to how this or that character or publication relates to this fact.

                        And do you have a screenshot? Well at least one smile At least something other than - it is customary for gentlemen to take their word for it. laughing
                      12. Uneven Offline Uneven
                        Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 30 December 2020 13: 13
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                        Polls highlight the trend eloquently:

                      13. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) 30 December 2020 14: 42
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                        Polls highlight the trend eloquently:

                        It is not surprising that the picture is without a link, but it doesn't matter, we will find it ourselves, especially the source "fellow countrymen". So:

                        Unexpected competitors to the official foundations in the presidential elections in the Russian Federation were Internet sites that posted questions or, if you like, ratings on their sites, which, in terms of their massiveness and diversity of social audience, in many respects surpassed the regular government sociologists. The agency "UgraPRO" posted a similar questionnaire on its website on February 7, asking the question: Which of the presidential candidates will you vote for in the March 18 elections? And in the period until March 12, it turned out that 51% of those polled would vote for Pavel Grudinin, 28% for Vladimir Putin, 10% for Vladimir Zhirinovsky, 5% for Ksenia Sobchak, 2% for Boris Titov, 2% - for Grigory Yavlinsky, 1% - for Maxim Suraikin, 1% - for Sergei Baburin. A total of 702 people took part in the voting, which is not so little. Can you trust the results of voting on the UgraPRO website? 100 percent is possible, because the voting mechanism on the site excludes the possibility of third-party interference in the results, including the agency's employees, and the possibility of repeated voting is also excluded.

                        http://www.ugrapro.ru/2018/03/12/grudinin-pobedil-byi-putina-v-pervom-ture-po-rezultatam-oprosov-v-internet-smi/

                        Are you familiar with the term representativity? It is not applicable to this poll because the readers of this publication with certain political views "voted" and this is what the results showed. If NEXTA had conducted a similar poll on Belarus, Lukashenka would not have won even 1% of the vote. The reality is somewhat different. By the way, I am not a reader of this publication and I am not alone in this. So the picture is distorted. This fully applies to the rest of the editions indicated in your screenshot. This data reflects the political bias of their audience no more.

                        Here is what this publication actually writes about the elections themselves:

                        Elections of the President of Russia confirmed the political stability of Ugra

                        ... yourself elections in Ugra were held without any serious violations, and all claims boiled down to poorly deployed webcams in the areas or the inconvenient location of observers ...

                        As for the name of the new President of Russia, we'll be patient a little more, we'll find out soon. In the meantime, preliminary results. Z601306 people voted for Vladimir Putin, 76,23%, for Pavel Grudinin - 94796 people 12,02%, for Vladimir Zhirinovsky, 53580 6,79% cast their votes, for Ksenia Sobchak - 10886 1,38%, for Grigory Yavlinsky - 5062 0,64%, for Boris Titov - 4368 0,55%, for Maxim Suraykin - 4098 0,52, 3920%, Sergei Baburin scored - 0,5 XNUMX%.

                        http://www.ugrapro.ru/2018/03/18/vyiboryi-prezidenta-rossii-podtverdili-politicheskuyu-stabilnost-yugryi/

                        So the "trend" exists exclusively in the imagination of you and your few like-minded people. hi
                    2. Uneven Offline Uneven
                      Uneven (VADIM STOLBOV) 30 December 2020 13: 40
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                      A few more "numbers" on the topic:

  • Xazarin Offline Xazarin
    Xazarin (Xazarin) 28 December 2020 11: 33
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    It will be funny if the Turks of Kakelov cover them with rockets ...