A "fourth estate" appears in Russia, which can be headed by Putin


The first meeting of the renewed State Council took place the day before. Recall that after the recent amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, this body received a new status, being reflected in the Basic Law. With all the everydayness of the issues discussed at the working meeting, the whole event left a very ambiguous impression of itself.


Initially, the State Council did not have constitutional status, remaining an advisory body under the president of the country. Not being essentially a government body, it was a kind of "strategic political body." In this form, the State Council existed from 2000 to 2020. Everything changed after President Putin's proposal to amend the country's Basic Law. In addition to many wonderful legislative innovations, the State Council was also reflected in the updated Constitution. What does this mean for all of us?

It is not a big secret that the State Council was considered as one of the options for the so-called "transit of power" in 2024, when the powers of the current president expire. It was assumed that this body, in fact, could turn into a fourth power, supervisory, standing above the legislative, executive and judicial. Within the framework of this concept, a number of key powers should be withdrawn from them and transferred to the State Council, which Vladimir Putin may head in 2024.

It should be noted that in the course of rewriting the Constitution, it also included the possibility of the so-called "zeroing", which gave Vladimir Vladimirovich the right to go back to two six-year presidential terms in 2024, as if the pilot had no trace of the previous 24 years. However, after the revenge of the "globalists" and the Democrats coming to power in the United States, the likelihood of this scenario, simple and understandable, began to decrease somewhat. The leadership of the American Democratic Party has no personal affection for the Russian president, but has gotten a hand in organizing "color revolutions" around the world. In this situation, for Putin to sit in the chair of the head of the State Council, which controls everything but is not responsible for anything, is not the worst option. So far, this constitutional body has discussed only general issues, but its powers can be quickly expanded through the adoption of a federal law. As they say, the case equipment.

But the last meeting of the State Council inevitably caused one curious association. The renewed State Council consists of: the president of the country himself, employees of his administration, the head of government and members of the cabinet of ministers, leaders of parliamentary parties, presidential envoys in the regions, governors, representatives of municipalities. Such a wide composition is explained by the need to organize interaction between all of them. Now some media outlets are straining to draw parallels with the Congress of the Central Committee of the CPSU, but a comparison with the Zemsky Sobor seems to be more accurate.

Recall that at the time of the Russian kingdom it was the highest estate-representative institution that discussed the most important political, economic and administrative matters. It was attended by representatives of all classes, except for the serfs. At the councils, the issues of introducing new taxes, declaring or continuing the war, and the political structure of the country were resolved. And at the Zemsky Sobor in 1613, Mikhail Romanov was married to the kingdom "with the whole world", who gave rise to a three-hundred-year ruling dynasty, which officially put an end to the Troubles.

The association between the State Council and the Zemsky Sobor may be false, but it seems to have turned out to be quite interesting and historically informative.
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  1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
    Afinogen (Afinogen) 24 December 2020 15: 45
    +2
    A "fourth estate" appears in Russia, which can be headed by Putin

    Maybe not. He's tired of steering. Let him go to rest. Previously, he kept trumpeting that there was no time for swinging, he jumped abruptly on his horse (though then he slowly got off the horse and everything remained the same). But the last time he did not even begin to "swing" to see the forces are not the same.

    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 24 December 2020 15: 59
      -3
      Did he find a successor? And then some Zyuganov will come and shoot the horse.
      1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
        Afinogen (Afinogen) 24 December 2020 16: 33
        +2
        So someone like Zyuganov will come if they continue to do nothing, bring the people.
        1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
          Just a cat (Bayun) 24 December 2020 16: 39
          -3
          And this "people" for virtual barrels of jam and baskets of cookies will be scrapped like the Maydauns went to feed the dogs in Donbass. Their golden loaf of Yanukovosch also brought it, but now everyone is swimming in the right chocolate.
    2. Rashid116 Offline Rashid116
      Rashid116 (Rashid) 29 December 2020 19: 08
      +1
      I agree with Ofinogen, he would go where far away. Better over the hill to your owners. The first two terms tried something, then got blown away. Everyone already ignores him, who is not lazy, there is something in the TV set, I immediately switch. I'm waiting, I can't wait for the phrase: "I'm tired, I'm leaving." Receivers there too.
      1. Rashid116 Offline Rashid116
        Rashid116 (Rashid) 29 December 2020 19: 09
        +1
        By the way, I will vote for the candidate who will cancel his immunity and promise to judge him.
  2. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 24 December 2020 16: 43
    -5
    In this situation, for Putin to sit in the chair of the head of the State Council, which controls everything, but is not responsible for anything, is not the worst option.

    And what good is it if he is not responsible for anything. True, I didn’t really notice that it’s obvious that he is now responsible, for his words, it’s not really, remember the pension reform or the May decrees.

    The association between the State Council and the Zemsky Sobor may be false, but it seems to have turned out to be quite interesting and historically informative.

    More like a boyar duma, representatives of the lower classes should be present at the council.
    Yes, cool, in the XXI century we have reached the average forms of government. So it is not far from absolutism.
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 24 December 2020 16: 48
      -2
      In 2008, being prime minister, he resolved the issue of rodents in Ossetia ... While Medvedev, like Nikolai the second, wrote in his pants ...
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 24 December 2020 18: 46
        -2
        And by the way, as far as I understand, the issue of South Ossetia was in the competence of the president, then Medvedev.
        1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
          Just a cat (Bayun) 24 December 2020 19: 28
          +1
          Medvedev did not resolve this issue.
          1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 24 December 2020 23: 54
            -4
            Then this decision was made in violation of the constitution. The president is responsible for foreign policy.
    2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 25 December 2020 14: 03
      +1
      Quote: Oleg Rambover
      The association between the State Council and the Zemsky Sobor may be false, but it seems to have turned out to be quite interesting and historically informative.

      More like a boyar duma, representatives of the lower classes should be present at the council.
      Yes, cool, in the XXI century we have reached the average forms of government. So it is not far from absolutism.

      The Boyar Duma existed parallel to the Zemsky Sobor. At the cathedral, they simply threw responsibility on everyone ...
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 25 December 2020 19: 55
        -2
        And yet the boyars, who decide the fate of the slaves, or rather approve the will of the tsar is closer to the State Council. The Zemsky Sobor is rather a parliament.
    3. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 25 December 2020 14: 04
      +2
      Quote: Oleg Rambover
      And what good is it if he is not responsible for anything. True, I didn’t really notice that it’s obvious that he is now responsible, for his words, it’s not really, remember the pension reform or the May decrees.

      And this is not good for the country. Only for himself and his entourage ...
    4. aries2200 Offline aries2200
      aries2200 (aries) 2 January 2021 01: 55
      0
      Yes, cool, in the XXI century they reached medieval forms of government .....there is a difference with telephones in hand and boyar chambers in England
  3. Cyril Online Cyril
    Cyril (Kirill) 24 December 2020 16: 53
    0
    For a "fourth estate" to appear in Russia, it must also have "first", "second" and "third". Sorry, but the State Duma and the Constitutional Court, which automatically approve any decision of the President, are so-so examples of independent branches of government.
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 24 December 2020 16: 54
      -2
      Do the decisions of the president contradict the constitution so that the constitutional court is against it? Or should there be a Makhnovshchina in Russia?
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 24 December 2020 17: 10
        -3
        For example, setting deadlines to zero is contrary to the constitution.
        1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
          Just a cat (Bayun) 24 December 2020 17: 33
          -2
          For a change in the constitution voted if WH laughing There, the Japanese were also shown a three-letter word on the Kuril issue.
          1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 24 December 2020 17: 47
            -2
            Read the definition of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation of 05.11.1998 N 134-O "In the case of the interpretation of Article 81 (part 3)"
            And about the Kuriles, I would not be so sure
            https://www.rbc.ru/politics/21/01/2019/5c45980b9a79479da6a42636
            1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
              Just a cat (Bayun) 24 December 2020 17: 58
              -1
              Echo of Moscow and Dozhd still quote ...
              1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 24 December 2020 18: 43
                -3
                Better let me quote the Kremlin
                http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/59125

                Following the meeting, the leaders of the two countries agreed that Russia and Japan would intensify the negotiation process on the issue of a peace treaty on the basis of the 1956 Soviet-Japanese declaration

                We read the declaration of 1956
                https://ria.ru/20161019/1479447588.html

                Article 9
                At the same time, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, meeting the wishes of Japan and taking into account the interests of the Japanese state, agrees to the transfer of the Habomai Islands and Sikotan Islands to Japan with the fact that the actual transfer of these islands to Japan will be made after the conclusion of the Peace Treaty between the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and Japan .

                And then you listen to the first channel, how "spaceships ply the vastness of the Bolshoi Theater"
                1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
                  Just a cat (Bayun) 24 December 2020 18: 49
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                  It is not the first year that I have seen any "intellectuals" on duty "putinslil" ... only everything does not merge in any way. And smokers have already been presented to the Japanese a thousand times ...

                  In the report of the Deputy Chairman of the Committee for the Defense of the Kuriles and the Territorial Integrity of Russia A.Yu. Plotnikov at a meeting of the deputy group for relations with the Parliament of Japan of the State Duma of the Russian Federation on September 19, 2000, the following was stated:

                  “In any case, in the current conditions, the ninth article of the 1956 Declaration should be recognized as having lost its force both in view of Japan's refusal of the initial conditions on which the Declaration was concluded, and in view of the fact that the transfer of the islands of the Lesser Kuril ridge to Japan provided for in this article was calculated on the conclusion of a peace treaty in the coming years in the specific conditions of the post-war period. Over the past decades, the situation in the region of the southern Kuriles has completely changed, and a return to the agreements of forty-five years ago is simply impossible. "

                  https://smekni.com/a/33925-4/yuzhno-kurilskaya-territorialnaya-problema-4/
                  1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 25 December 2020 00: 38
                    -4
                    Quote: Just Cat
                    And smokers have already been presented to the Japanese a thousand times ...

                    But he was negotiating.
                    But really "putinsil" the islands Bolshoy, Tarabarov and Bolshoy Ussuriysky to China.
                    In the process of demarcation of the Russian-Norwegian border, 175000 km2 of the Barents Sea was transferred to Norway.
                    Two villages were transferred to Azerbaijan

                    Well, of course, if A.Yu. Plotnikova herself (who is that ?!) said, the integral chairman of the "Committee for the Defense of the Kuriles and the Territorial Integrity of Russia" (what kind of committee is this ?!), why should we listen to the president.
  4. amateur Offline amateur
    amateur (Victor) 24 December 2020 17: 39
    0
    Or maybe you need less "authorities and officials" and more personal responsibility? Then maybe there will be less corruption and more real results?
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 24 December 2020 17: 59
      -2
      It won't help ... Stalin shot, shot, but Sobchak survived ...
      1. gore Offline gore
        gore (Alexander) 25 December 2020 05: 10
        +2
        I agree, Comrade Stalin did not shoot enough ...
      2. Bitter Offline Bitter
        Bitter (Gleb) 26 December 2020 14: 56
        0
        ..Stalin shot, shot, ...

        Stalin did not shoot anyone, the apparatchiks worked "on trust". And they probably often shot the wrong people in the wrong places. Some advisers, informers and other very dubious elements had to be carefully checked and placed next to them, otherwise a lot of people were persecuted purely for nagvations.
  5. Cucumbers Offline Cucumbers
    Cucumbers (Cucumbers) 24 December 2020 21: 15
    +1
    The Chinese comrades recommended that the organ be called that. To like theirs. Then there will be real friendship - corn
  6. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 24 December 2020 22: 09
    0
    And what to discuss then?
    The well-known swan-crayfish-pike bike has been known since ancient Greece, like.
  7. Boris Nikolayevich (Boris Nikolaevich) 26 December 2020 16: 34
    +1
    The fourth power ... Excuse me, Sergei Marzhetsky, but what are the other 3 authorities in Russia? In my opinion, in Russia today there is only one Bourgeois power, only serving under various showcases. But for me the essence is the same; "All of them are appointed by one person, and are subordinate to the same person who appoints them! And it cannot be otherwise. Whoever appoints and orders and directs ...!"
  8. And I would sit in Putin's place all the way, and then put my follower, and myself - to the dacha!