Armament with Russian Su-35 and Su-57: the United States may not leave Turkey with a choice


US sanctions and EU pressure on Turkey can have serious and unpleasant consequences, writes the American edition of Military Watch.


On December 14, 2020, after three years of threats against Ankara, Washington decided to take an unprecedented step and imposed restrictions against a NATO ally in accordance with the US federal law on Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions (CAATSA). They are directed against a number of officials in charge of the Turkish defense industry, who have chosen the Russian S-400 air defense system as the most effective air defense system for their country.

Before that, the United States excluded Turkey from the F-35 fifth generation stealth fighter program. Moreover, Ankara was an integral participant in this program. She invested money in the project and launched the production of hundreds of components for these aircraft on its territory.

The actions of the American authorities then pushed Ankara to become interested in modern Russian aircraft, since the Turkish Air Force needs to be rearmed. Unsurprisingly, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan attended the MAKS-2019 air show in Russia with Russian leader Vladimir Putin, demonstrating an interest in the Su-35 and Su-57, as well as other weapons systems, including the S-500 air defense system.

So Ankara tried to influence Washington so that it would not impose sanctions. In 2020, Turkey faced serious opposition to its territorial claims from a number of neighboring states. For example, Greece, supported by France. Athens has already ordered French Rafale and American F-35s for its Air Force.

In addition, the new US administration may in due course begin to increase pressure on Turkey in the Eastern Mediterranean, although the Turks still hope for a positive outcome. They think Joe Biden will go for the easing of sanctions. Failure in this matter will be the last straw that will overflow the cup of Ankara's patience. After that, the Turks will become the main clients of the Russian military-industrial complex.

There is little doubt that the Turks will want to buy the Su-35 and Su-57. In fact, the United States will not leave Turkey with a choice, and Russia will benefit in the first place.
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  1. ODRAP Offline ODRAP
    ODRAP (Alexey) 17 December 2020 12: 41
    -4
    I think it will follow this scenario.
    The Turks exhausted by Narzan will buy the Su-57, both. One will be left to themselves for study, like the C400, the second will be given to the Yankees. After that, the sanctions will be recognized as untimely, the Penguins, already ready, will sit in Inzhirlik, the kit will fly to the assembly, to the States. A dash, in the subject, will be taken not by the sea, but by the Ukrainian Ruslan.
    In the event of a Very Deep Concern expressed by Mr. Lavrov, the situation will immediately be declared force majeure, and the loans for equipment will be irrecoverable.
    France is silent in a rag, Greece is picking the ground with its toes.
    Peace-friendship-gum, Russia continues to destroy the Black Sea NATO coalition.
    1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
      Alexndr p (Alexander) 17 December 2020 13: 00
      +3
      Why such a scheme? Yankees can buy directly. We sold the air defense system to a member of Nata. So we have a switch (if not a button, then a hypersonic one). We sell helicopters to Afghanistan at the expense of the USA.

      Want Su-57? Let them write an application. I think we can sell this equipment not only to the USA. In the end, they are already experiencing uranium powerlessness - because they threw the Russians, yeah.

      And they can update the Abrams. And he was still delirious. In general, Russia can normally offer the United States this way.

      According to Putin, during the G20 summit in Osaka, he offered US President Donald Trump to buy Russian hypersonic strike systems

      So we are open to sponsoring our research and military-industrial complex and maintaining the pipelines.

      And the United States would be happy to order 300+ aircraft, for example the F-35. They would do it to remove our park and replace it with their own.
      1. ODRAP Offline ODRAP
        ODRAP (Alexey) 17 December 2020 13: 36
        -5
        Do not understand?
        East is a delicate matter. "And talk"? (C) there without intrigue and do not go to poop. And so, they brought in everyone, lit everyone, and a piece of butter for yourself ...
        Of course, there is a button. Beautiful, red ... on the plane, in Taganrog.
        Do you seriously believe that there are such mugs in Turkey that they have not turned off the "anti-theft"? There was a message that they sorted out and sorted it out. However, this was predicted at the stage of signing the contract.
        You can definitely sell. As soon as 76 units are built, and immediately .... but for now, prepayment, 100% .... no money? Then on credit ... for twenty years ...
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 17 December 2020 17: 01
          +3
          You can definitely sell. As soon as 76 units are built, and immediately .... but for now, prepayment, 100% .... no money? Then on credit ... for twenty years ...

          We can't keep up with you in this regard. An-178 in Peru how many years have you been doing? One Karl ... one. Not a couple laughing
          1. ODRAP Offline ODRAP
            ODRAP (Alexey) 17 December 2020 22: 55
            -2
            And, it's bad how not to admit it.
            Break of cooperation, where devazzo. We didn't start.
            While they were replaced, everything they could and need. But, replaced?
            And in Peru, the usual corruption scandal, against the background of inter-clan aunts. There it is, how hello. They will deliver, because there is no alternative.
            By the way. Not really advertised, but Antonov put three planes on the slipway. I think they will take off faster than 112. repeat
            And quite by the way, I remind you that the 178th received an international certificate, up to which 112 mu, as before China on the chassis. ,,
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 18 December 2020 00: 17
              +2
              Break of cooperation, where devazzo. We didn't start.

              Well, of course. Who was shouting to a moskolyak on a gilyak with pans on his head? Chileans?

              While they were replaced, everything they could and need. But, replaced?

              For what? American? Boeing doesn't need you, the Ukrainian aviation industry won't be allowed to survive.

              And in Peru, the usual corruption scandal, against the background of inter-clan aunts. There it is, how hello. They will deliver, because there is no alternative.

              Do not make me laugh laughing Your agents always have an alternative.
              Peru:

              SE "Antonov" has not received an advance payment from Ukroboronprom on the An-178 project for the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Peru. And the demands of the state concern to pay the quarterly installment threatens to break the international contract.

              https://biz.liga.net/ekonomika/transport/novosti/gp-antonov-i-ukroboronprom-ne-podelili-40-mln-grn-eto-grozit-kontraktu-s-peru

              Azerbaijan:

              The incompetence of the leadership of the Ukrainian aviation industry and the outflow of professional personnel made it impossible to fulfill the contract for the supply of Ukrainian An-178 aircraft to Azerbaijan. This was stated by the former president of the state enterprise (SE) Antonov and its long-term chief designer Dmitry Kiva in a detailed interview with the Ukrainian edition of Zerkalo Nedeli.

              https://rg.ru/2018/10/25/ukraina-sorvala-kontrakt-s-azerbajdzhanom-na-postavku-samoletov.html

              Kazakhstan:

              Kazakhstan will not receive An-74T-200A aircraft ordered in Ukraine

              https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2146284.html

              By the way. Not really advertised, but Antonov put three planes on the slipway. I think they will take off faster than 112.

              Hope dies last, but the development of events over the past 25 years suggests that they will remain on these stocks. Moreover, the time has come for aircraft manufacturers to be difficult, production is declining. It is difficult without state support. Antonov is simply naive to count on this.

              And quite by the way, I remind you that the 178th received an international certificate, up to which 112 mu, as before China on the chassis.

              Congratulations good You can hang it in a beautiful frame on the wall.
      2. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) 18 December 2020 06: 56
        -1
        Quote: Alexander P
        According to Putin, during the G20 summit in Osaka, he offered US President Donald Trump to buy Russian hypersonic strike systems

        So we are open to sponsoring our research and military-industrial complex and maintaining the pipelines.

        Don't be ridiculous, even Indians refuse to buy products of the Russian military-industrial complex, what kind of USA is there? lol And your research can only be sponsored by completely lost third world states, such as Algeria, and, what is important, on loans provided by the Russian Federation, which are not going to be returned. We swam, we know ... hi
    2. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) 17 December 2020 13: 35
      +1
      It is necessary to exclude any supply of the Su-57 abroad altogether, until all the aircraft contracted by our Defense Ministry are fully delivered to the Russian Aerospace Forces.
      1. ODRAP Offline ODRAP
        ODRAP (Alexey) 17 December 2020 13: 39
        -5
        That's right!
        Until 2028!
    3. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 18 December 2020 07: 28
      -1
      Quote: ODRAP
      Turks will buy Su-57, both.

      They will not buy - although they are Turks, they are not half-witted. Why should they buy what no decent state buys? Erdogan sleeps and sees Turkey as a world-class power, he wants to have the corresponding technology and not the belated developments of Soviet designers that do not meet modern requirements. Fifth-generation fighters are produced today by the United States, China and Russia (conditionally), however, the product of the Chinese also raises certain doubts. There is still an opportunity (purely theoretical) to make your own plane, but this is beyond reality for the Turks. Therefore, Ankara simply does not have an equivalent replacement for the F-35. However, if we discard the imperial aspirations of the newly-minted Turkish sultan, which in any scenario are not destined to come true, it is clear that the Turks, in fact, do not really need a fifth generation fighter. There will be no war with Greece, with Israel and rich Arabs, too, but to frighten the Armenians, demonstrate support for Baku, walk around Libya and feel confident in relation to Iran, you can even with your own F-16s produced under license.
  2. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Sapsan136) 17 December 2020 12: 53
    +3
    Selling the Su-57 to Turkey is stupid, the MiG-35 is enough for her. And if they don't want to buy MiGs, let them fly only in dreams ..
  3. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 17 December 2020 13: 48
    +2
    Again in the Anonymous article the message about Su's awesome need for Turkey.
    I haven’t bought it yet, despite Putin’s hints, and will suddenly buy it?

    So far, these sanctions are nothing. But Turkey's foreign trade gives the answer whether it will buy or not buy ... Russia in 2019 is there in the 5-10th place ... Guess which NATO is ...
  4. Alexzn Online Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 17 December 2020 15: 23
    -4
    I did not understand how the states will be able to buy the Su-57 if Turkey buys all (both) ...
    1. ODRAP Offline ODRAP
      ODRAP (Alexey) 17 December 2020 22: 58
      -1
      Turkey will buy, both, the partner ...
      Then, like Panikovsky, he will sell, and will buy again, and will sell again, but already twice as expensive ...