The Truth About Scarcity: Why Soviet Store Shelves Empty


The topic of "total deficit", "widespread queues", "absolutely empty counters" and other problems allegedly inherent in life in the USSR is discussed on the Internet in our Fatherland and the so-called "post-Soviet countries" with fervor, often exceeding the passions that flare up in conversations about modern political events. Each of the parties brings a lot of arguments - from statistical data of varying degrees of reliability to examples from personal experience. Even photos from family albums are used ...


It would seem that it is impossible to search for the truth and unequivocally determine who is right in a discussion that has been going on for three decades. However, we will try to do this. And at the same time - "dig deeper" and figure out who and why needed the destruction of the system of supplying citizens with everything necessary in the USSR, as well as why it was done.

First, let's figure it out with time


As I said above, in addition to arguments in the form of numerous references to exactly which store and for which particular product, their author "had to stand a kilometer, signing up in line from the night", or, on the contrary, long lists of goodies that are "completely free were sold in the most ordinary Grocery store, and for mere pennies ”, the disputants are increasingly using, so to speak, visual agitation. And here's what is interesting ... As a rule, when frames are presented as evidence in which the counters and shelves of grocery and manufactured goods outlets shining with virgin emptiness are really captured, an extremely characteristic detail is revealed. The vast majority of those, if not all of them, have a perfectly clear time reference. That is, they were made in the second half of the 80s or early 90s. And here we are dealing with the most serious, downright fundamental fraud. After all, this time, in fact, can no longer be called Soviet, even if we talk about the period before 1991.

Beginning with Mikhail Gorbachev's coming to power, the process of the purposeful collapse of the USSR and the destruction of socialism as a social system on its territory was launched. Hence - and all the actions of the authorities. To break the gigantic economic The potential of the Soviet Union, accumulated over 70 years of great construction projects and the shock work of its entire population, was far from an easy task. However, the traitors who seized leading positions in the state with the help of their Western "friends" coped with it more than successfully. How exactly, we will consider in detail below. In the meantime, let's decide on the main thing - with the goals that were pursued at the same time.

Yes, a certain number of government officials, party functionaries and simply resourceful citizens had a banal thirst for enrichment, and it was fully satisfied. However, all this "worked" exclusively at the grassroots level - small jackals, with contented rumbling snatching their pieces wherever possible. "Upstairs" both plans and tasks were much larger. The Soviet people - all, without exception, and to the last person had to be plunged not just into poverty, but into poverty. People, preoccupied with the search for a piece of bread and nothing else, will not resist the fact that their country is being destroyed before their very eyes ... Alas, this is exactly what happened later. Moreover, it was extremely important for the murderers of the USSR that this very poverty, empty counters, the inability to buy goods of even the most basic necessities, were associated with the Soviet system, the rule of the Communist Party. Parallel to the creation of not only a total deficit, but a complete absence of consumer goods in state trading networks, an information campaign was being actively promoted about “closed party distributors”, “social inequality” and the like.

Unfortunately, this task was also accomplished - the millions who were still Soviet citizens, who were brutalized by "sausage and vodka" battles and communication with speculators, did not support in the fall of 1991 the last attempt (albeit extremely miserable) to reverse the process of destruction of their homeland. The union of an empty refrigerator and a TV pouring out streams of lies won an extremely convincing victory over common sense, which should have suggested that it was not the "Soviet government" that was to blame for everything that was happening, but only its specific current leaders.

"What you don't miss - there is nothing ..."


Those who today, in all seriousness, are trying to talk about the "terrible food shortage" in the Soviet Union either simply did not live in those days (and, perhaps, are mistaken in good faith), or are trying with the help of such conversations to avoid answering a very tricky question: "Where the colossal food reserves of the country have disappeared at the moment when the shelves of Soviet grocery stores were really empty? " Yes, the current variety of assortment in them was not even close even in the 70s. However, a certain set of necessary and very high-quality products was always available in abundance. Of course, Khrushchev destroyed the Stalinist abundance of pickles (during which the state had to print posters urging citizens to eat crabs) with his sabotage "reforms" and, above all, absolutely insane agricultural policy. He also wiped out household plots in the bud, thereby inflating prices on collective farm markets. Nevertheless, under Brezhnev, the main consequences of the "corn catastrophe" were overcome. There was no abundance, but no one was starving either. Under Brezhnev, but already at the suggestion of Gorbachev, in 1982 he had to adopt the famous "Food Program". Accepted - and, after five years, excuse the rudeness, there was nothing to eat at all. This is despite the fact that according to official statistics, its indicators have been met, if not exceeded. How so? It's very simple.

In my archive is a tape recording of one retired general from law enforcement. For some personal reasons, I will not name his name here, I will only make a reservation that at one time he held quite significant positions - for example, he headed the BKSS service of Checheno-Ingushetia. Subsequently, he ended up in one of the republics that gained independence - and also far from being in a low position. And this is how this person described to me a situation that he faced in the very beginning of the 90s:

The capital of the republic in those days was literally suffocating from the shortage, primarily from the food shortage. And at the same time, the warehouses of more than numerous trading bases located in the city were bursting with an abundance of products! I began to travel to all these bases myself. Moreover, he came to the area without any warning, taking with him from the city police department someone who was well-versed in the area, could show where all these objects are located. We entered the first warehouse - and I was amazed! Not that there are food in wagons, but in trains! What is not there - not only stew, condensed milk, but also cod liver, sausage, whatever you want, even caviar! What is most interesting is that the leaders of these very "klondikes" found a very original excuse for themselves - they say that both the bases and warehouses belonging to them were "under the union's subordination." Here they are, the orphaned and the poor, in the complete absence of guidelines from above, they cannot put their minds to it - what to do with all this. And we would be glad to put it on sale - well, they will be called to account!


Such is the story with geography. These are not fictions, but testimonies of a very specific person who was in his right mind and hard memory, and, believe me, was absolutely not inclined to fantasies. There are other confirmations - the same Nikolai Ryzhkov, who was chairman of the USSR Council of Ministers during the “perestroika” period, later admitted that there was a clear and unambiguous instruction “from above” - not even to unload the food trains arriving from the regions. In the end, if the country had real problems with food, its leadership could (and had to) make a decision on commodity interventions from the huge reserves of the USSR State Reserve. However, nobody did it. The murderers of the USSR needed a hungry and "silent" people - and they got it.

USSR for export


The situation with non-food products is even more interesting. Gentlemen democrats and liberals go out of their way trying to convince all of us that in the Soviet Union, neither normal clothes and shoes, nor household equipment, no furniture. In short - none of the most popular consumer goods. Decent (that is, exclusively imported) things could be "obtained by pull" or purchased from blacksmiths and other speculators at exorbitant prices. There is some truth in this, but only a fraction. Yes, there was "cronyism", and recordings on headsets and sets, and lively guys who sold from under the floor little-worn American pants. But here is how, then, to explain those figures about which the defenders of "market reforms" and other "re-arranged" devilry, if they remember, then very reluctantly, literally with a gnash of teeth. Among these very reforms there was, in particular, the decision taken in early 1987 to abolish practically all the restrictions that had been in effect before in foreign trade. This was the main step towards turning the shelves of Soviet stores into an absolute desert.

In this article, I will not touch upon the issues of exporting stocks of strategic raw materials abroad - this is a topic for a separate story, and our conversation is now about something else. Since the removal of barriers in the way of those wishing to enrich themselves at the ferry across the cordon of "unusable" Soviet goods, these same goods flowed there not even like a river - Niagara Falls! In 1988 alone, half a million (!) Color televisions, 200 thousand washing machines went abroad from the USSR ... This alone completely refutes the miserable thesis that in the Soviet Union such goods "were not produced in sufficient quantities" or were "completely of poor quality ". Abroad, primarily in Eastern Europe, our goods, as they say, were torn off with their hands! And there was a very specific reason for that.

Soviet consumer goods had a "ridiculous", penny cost. In comparison with their foreign counterparts (not always, by the way, of better quality and more reliable), they were generally almost free! They scattered them "with a bang", and with a double, triple "wrapping", or even at a price five times more than the price for which they were purchased in Soviet trade by resourceful "shuttle traders". And caravans pulled out from the USSR. To Yugoslavia, Romania, Poland ... The latter generally turned into one huge bazaar, where our compatriots sold everything and everyone. Literally everything that could be exported was exported - the state export of fabrics from the Soviet Union alone instantly took off 3, 5, 7 times! And we will never know how much and what the private persons were dragged off the cordon, and for no reason - customs statistics were not kept in the country as such. However, some customs still tried to keep at least some kind of accounting. At the same time, the numbers turned out to be terrible, downright catastrophic. According to only one of the posts through it during 1989, more than 2 million tons (!!!) of consumer goods, which at that time belonged to the category of acutely scarce, flowed over the cordon. Nobody even tried to count on pieces ...

Do you think that in Moscow, in the Kremlin, in the Central Committee of the CPSU, they had no idea about this? Could not figure out what horrific consequences such a total sale of the country would inevitably lead to? I am sure that everyone there understood and understood perfectly well. But what was happening more than met the plans of Gorbachev and his accomplices. It is impossible to assume anything else if we consider the reaction of the Soviet authorities to what was happening in it. In 1989, new Customs regulations were adopted, which, among other things, removed any restrictions on the export of gold and jewelry from the country. As a result, how many of them were exported abroad, how fabulously enriched both individual citizens and certain structures - this, again, no one will say.

The destruction of Soviet industry, trade, and supplies was carried out deliberately and purposefully. At the same time, let me repeat myself, both political and purely mercantile motives were pursued. Let me give you another concrete example - after the "sudden" shutdown of 26 of the 28 tobacco factories in the Soviet Union, a real cigarette collapse broke out. In some republics and regions, it came to "tobacco riots", and in the markets banks sold ... cigarette butts! After that, cheap domestic cigarettes completely disappeared from the shelves, but imported ones immediately appeared in their place. But they cost five times, or even ten times more ...

The shortage and insecurity of the population of the USSR with both food and consumer goods were created during the period of "perestroika" completely artificially and with criminal intentions by those who set their goal to destroy the entire country. This is the truth, confirmed by figures, facts and memories of those who lived in this terrible time. Everything else is shameless lies and rigging.
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  1. Wooh Offline Wooh
    Wooh (Barmaley) 21 November 2020 10: 17
    +10
    I fully support the author about sabotage from above. After my father was demobilized from the border troops in 1960, we first moved to Zaporozhye from Takhta-Bazar, and then, a month later, to Vilnius, thank God that we left Ukraine. I was 13 years old when the khrushchev was removed. On store shelves, cornflakes, corn loaves and corn honey. And the day after the plenum, abundance. Pigs were raised in one night, slaughtered and bacon made. And some say there are no miracles.
    By the way, about those sausages, I remember the doctor's sausage with longing. Such as now, then the mongrels would not eat.
    hi
    1. nikolai.piskunov (Nikolay Piskunov) 8 January 2021 21: 11
      +1
      Here we are talking about sabotage during Gorbachev's perestroika, as it was always under socialism, and not only under Gorbachev. I remember 1979, the city of Novokuznetsk. They took us to work, a team of two people, to a food warehouse, a former canteen for builders, to change the heating battery. The room where we were taken was stacked with bottles of Borjomi mineral water, and I already thought that such water was no longer brought to Russia. Neither before, nor after, I did not see Borjomi mineral water on sale either in the dining room or in the buffet, as I think everything was going on with the thieves and the authorities. Sometimes there was a local mineral water, "Tersinka", on sale.
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  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 21 November 2020 10: 19
    +10
    Yes. And those who created these empty shelves are now in power. With descendants.
    Sobchaks, Chubais, Gaidars, Chernomyrdins and Usmanovs. And their sidekick.
    1. Eugene Offline Eugene
      Eugene (Eugene) 1 December 2020 14: 34
      +1
      By the way, do you remember who Sobchak was responsible for food at that wonderful time?
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 1 December 2020 17: 48
        -1
        Tse is a patriotic site.
        Only the boyars are to blame!
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      2. Andrey Miller Offline Andrey Miller
        Andrey Miller (Andrey Miller) 5 December 2020 20: 49
        +1
        And what were the problems with food then? Then the problem was with money! and in 1992 there was everything in St. Petersburg! And everything was both post-Soviet and foreign!
        1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
          Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 30 January 2021 23: 11
          0
          Everything was the same in Kazan. Oil and red pants ...
          But in other places - no ...
  3. Artyom76 Offline Artyom76
    Artyom76 (Artyom Volkov) 21 November 2020 12: 14
    +5
    I absolutely agree with the author, unfortunately, our whole country was betrayed, and some of the people just thoughtlessly fell for it. I was still a child (12 years old) in 1991, but all my life I could not understand what the shortage of food was (by the way, I don’t remember it in our city, everything was in stores until the appearance of imported goods with shuttles already in the mid-90s) if the entire industry worked at 100% load.
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    2. Fedor Z. Offline Fedor Z.
      Fedor Z. (Fedor Zagoskin) 9 February 2021 10: 43
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      And as far as I can remember, starting from the 70s, I always traveled with my dad 300 miles away to buy food in Moscow (sausage trains). Then there was Brezhnev.
  4. Artyom76 Offline Artyom76
    Artyom76 (Artyom Volkov) 21 November 2020 12: 16
    +7
    Quote: Uuh
    By the way, about those sausages, I remember the doctor's sausage with longing. Such as now, then the mongrels would not eat.
    hi

    I agree with you 100%, I still remember the "taste of childhood", but it is no longer realistic to meet it in our time .... even with their new "guests"
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  5. Xuli (o) Tebenado 21 November 2020 12: 52
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    Around 1979, the capital of the southern union republic: fruits and vegetables are freely sold, in stores in bulk canned fruits and vegetables; milk (milk, kefir, sour cream, cottage cheese) was enough for 1-1,5 hours after "import"; meat, chickens, sausages - you had to run 5-8-10 shops, and then (after standing in lines) luck will definitely smile on you.

    ..the potential of the Soviet Union, accumulated over 70 years of great construction projects and the shock work of its entire population ..

    It's time to repeat the dates:
    1918 - 1922 - Russian Civil War;
    30.12.1922/XNUMX/XNUMX - formation of the USSR;
    1928-1932 - the first five-year plan;
    08.12.1991/XNUMX/XNUMX - the collapse of the USSR.
    Thus, the USSR existed for almost 69 years. And at the same time, as stated -

    ... about the second half of the 80s or early 90s. ... After all, this time ... can no longer be called Soviet, even if we talk about the period before 1991.
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    2. Vyacheslav N. Offline Vyacheslav N.
      Vyacheslav N. (Vyacheslav Unknown) 12 December 2020 12: 39
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      After Leonid Brezhnev left, Soviet power ended.
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      2. nikolai.piskunov (Nikolay Piskunov) 17 February 2021 05: 10
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        There was no Soviet power in the USSR, everything was based on the omnipotence of the party nomenklatura. Gorbachev wanted to give more power to the Soviets, held free elections (Probably the only ones in the history of Russia) and everything went from that. The Supreme Soviets of the Union republics began to declare "Soverinities" in turn. And to top it off, Yeltsin, Kravchuk, Shushkevich, dissolved the USSR.
  6. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 21 November 2020 14: 00
    -7
    Canonical propaganda "chernukha" - stupidity rides on stupidity and stupidity drives.
    1. Nikolay Chuev Offline Nikolay Chuev
      Nikolay Chuev (Nikolay Chuev) 6 December 2020 09: 41
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      True, I saw it myself.

      https://vk.com/video297630749_456239948

      https://vk.com/video-48397795_456241266
    2. osemyonoff Offline osemyonoff
      osemyonoff (Oleg) 22 January 2021 21: 22
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      Canonical behind a brick wall sits
  7. Oleg Rambover Online Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 21 November 2020 14: 06
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    I have not read it, but I condemn it. The author has too many letters. I think the old song about the main thing, Khrushchev and Gorbachev are traitors who specially arranged a deficit.
    In 1920, Ludwig von Mises, in his book Economic Computing in the Socialist Community, put forward the so-called calculational argument. The bottom line is that in a planned economy it is impossible to assess the value of resources and, accordingly, it is impossible to effectively allocate these resources. As a consequence, the low efficiency of such an economy and a deficit. Time confirmed von Mises was right. In short, the deficit is an integral part of the socialist planned economy. They also pointed to the unequal position of consumers and producers in the planning system, hence the low quality and sloppy design.
    1. nov_tech.vrn Offline nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn (Michael) 22 November 2020 13: 35
      +1
      On the first day of the GKChP, my friend got into a group that, according to the plan of events, controlled one of the highways leading out of the city, they were located in a small town, a lot of greenery, the private sector was literally within walking distance of the city limits, well, some SMU were located from the industry and etc. So, literally on the first day, a local precinct officer came to them and said that he was ready to name several addresses in the private sector from which a large amount of goods and food was urgently sent to the city, his bosses ignored all information about underground warehouses.
      1. Oleg Rambover Online Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 22 November 2020 17: 23
        -7
        Before believing any facts, let alone such rumors, I ask myself the question "why?" In this case, why would Gorbachev do something like that? He was the ruler of a huge country that dictated its will to the world, and became a pensioner. I cannot imagine Gorbachev's motives that he would like the collapse of the USSR.
        And there was always a deficit under Soviet rule, from the famine under Stalin to the lack of toilet paper under Gorbachev.
    2. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 23 November 2020 09: 22
      +4
      In short, the deficit is an integral part of the socialist planned economy.

      That's why in socialist China there is a deficit in everything ... Or maybe it's the other way around? How did the West steal medical masks from each other right on the runways of Chinese airfields? How is covid treated in China and the EU?
      1. Oleg Rambover Online Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 23 November 2020 11: 32
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        Quote: Bulanov
        That's why in socialist China there is a deficit in everything ... Or maybe it's the other way around?

        In modern China, from socialism only the name and the Communist Party. There has long been not a planned economy (when there was a planned economy and a deficit), but quite a market economy. Only 30% of GDP is formed by state-owned enterprises (for comparison, in the modern Russian Federation, 70%).

        Quote: Bulanov
        How did the West steal medical masks from each other right on the runways of Chinese airfields? How is covid treated in China and the EU?

        Autocracies have an advantage in times of crisis (they can react faster without giving a damn about people's rights), but are generally less effective than democracies.
        1. Shuravy Offline Shuravy
          Shuravy (Shuravy) 7 December 2020 21: 01
          0
          Sound the list of state-owned enterprises in Russia, otherwise in my work book of LLC, OJSC, OOT, state of emergency, etc. etc.
          1. Oleg Rambover Online Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 7 December 2020 23: 12
            -1
            This is the opinion of the FAS.

            https://www.rbc.ru/economics/29/09/2016/57ecd5429a794730e1479fac
    3. Vlad Weird Offline Vlad Weird
      Vlad Weird (Vlad Weird) 1 December 2020 15: 17
      +1
      I will give just one example without Mises of why the planned economy works better. In a market economy, there is a flow of information about the value of a product through its value, but information about logistics completely disappears, hence overproduction, ... In a planned economy, you can reorganize an enterprise to release new products without rebuilding the entire infrastructure, while in a market economy, no one has anything about each other does not know how in a dark forest, and while one enterprise goes bankrupt, a new one is built in an open field.
      1. Oleg Rambover Online Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 1 December 2020 21: 13
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        Quote: Vlad Weird
        In a market economy, there is a flow of information about the value of a product through its value, but information about logistics completely disappears, hence overproduction,

        Why is this information about logistics disappearing? A certain Keynes proposed a system of macroeconomic regulation. This system was more or less implemented and more or less stopped such crises.

        Quote: Vlad Weird
        In a planned economy, you can reorganize an enterprise to release new products without rebuilding the entire infrastructure, while in a market economy, no one knows anything about each other, like in a dark forest, and while one enterprise goes bankrupt, a new one is built in an open field.

        Do you see a lot of successful planned economies? Yes, at least name one.
        1. Vladimir68 Offline Vladimir68
          Vladimir68 (Vladimir) 9 December 2020 13: 13
          +2
          I agree that there was a shortage, but at the same time all the basic vital products were available and no one died of hunger. Once again, you, intentionally or not, only consider one side. I want to remind you that not in one country then housing was not given (this despite the fact that after the Second World War most of the housing stock was destroyed), there was no free education (Americans were shocked by our education in the late 50s and early 60s). Now compare the initial conditions in the 20s. USSR - destroyed industry, destroyed management, huge losses of human resources. America - earned on 1 MV, the industry is working to the fullest. then the USSR suffered unprecedented damage in the Second World War. USA only earned on 2nd MV. Further, I would like to remind you that the country, at the same time, for all 70 years was not only under sanctions, but also under the threat of destruction (intervention, nuclear bombing plans. Do you know something similar about the Soviet Union's plans?). In addition, powerful propaganda (and sabotage) was carried out against the country. And about the VEREGULATING MARKET economy in the West, do not tell me. Pressure on Europe during the construction of the Druzhba gas pipelines Urengoy-Pomary-Uzhgorod, Nord Stream, Nord Stream2, the ban on the sale of a whole range of products (not only to your own country but also to other countries) - is this all a market economy? The United States came out of the Great Depression by far from market methods. By the way, Europe with its market economy was unable to oppose anything to Germany.
          I am born in 1968 and I even remember the 70s quite well. Yes, a lot had to be changed, but not broken. And regarding the deficit in the late 80s, I will ask one question. As soon as the prices were released, the stores were immediately filled with goods, where did they come from? Those who lived in those days remember the program "600 seconds", how they regularly found food dumps, despite the fact that there was nothing on the shelves. And this was massive throughout the country (Under the central leadership, it is clear where such orders come from). So why Gorbachev needed it, I won't say exactly, but my opinion is that he was very vain, all his actions were populist, which led from primary admiration for him to complete hatred just a few years later. But in the west he was always admired, because all his actions were in their hands (for a fool you don't need a knife, you sing along a little and do what you want with him).
          So before you make a claim, do the math and you will be surprised at the results.
          1. Oleg Rambover Online Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 11 December 2020 11: 41
            -3
            Quote: Vladimir68
            USSR - destroyed industry, destroyed management, huge losses of human resources.

            And who is to blame for this? Who started the civil war?

            Quote: Vladimir68
            Further, I would like to remind you that for all 70 years the country was not only under sanctions, but also under the threat of destruction (intervention, nuclear bombing plans. Do you know anything like that about the Soviet Union's plans?)

            Have you read "Keno's long telegram"? The United States was not going to fight the USSR. Since the days of Khrushchev, when the USSR was able to strike at the territory of the United States, war became, in principle, impossible.

            Quote: Vladimir68
            is it all a market economy?

            There is nothing absolute in this world, including an absolutely market economy. Can you name a successful non-market economy?

            Quote: Vladimir68
            And this was massive throughout the country (Under the central leadership, it is clear where such orders come from).

            If the USSR was ruled from top to bottom by traitors, the CIA hirelings who dreamed of destroying it and staged a deficit, then the USSR was not viable.

            Quote: Vladimir68
            I won't tell Gorbachev exactly,

            So you can't even think of a motive? That's what I'm talking about.

            Quote: Vladimir68
            So before you make a claim, do the math and you will be surprised at the results.

            Calculate what? Strong states don't fall apart anyway
        2. a.gostevtpirf.ru (Alexey Gostev) 21 December 2020 12: 30
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          There are no examples. Not because they are worse, planned is better multiples. They do not exist, either it is unprofitable for the powers that be with their goals, or the idiots who build a planned one do not have enough brains. They build a planned one, reduce it to moronism, which has nothing to do with the planned. Then they and all the other brainless ones yell what a planned turd.
          1. Oleg Rambover Online Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 21 December 2020 13: 07
            -2
            As they say in America, if you are so smart, why are you so poor. I mean, if the planned economy is so wonderful, why couldn't it be implemented anywhere? And the fact that it was wrongly built conversations in favor of the poor.
    4. Nik Kulinich Offline Nik Kulinich
      Nik Kulinich (Nik Kulinich) 3 December 2020 20: 24
      +3
      I didn't live at that time, but I reason? Read the book of revelations of the former member of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU A. Yakovlev, Gorbachev's right hand, about how the USSR was DESTROYED. They fought, so to speak, with communism. There was also a recognition of Mishka "Marked" himself before the students of an American university located in Turkey in 1995: the former General Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU said that the goal of his whole life was the fight against communism. This speech was published in the Western media, and then in the CIS. Or remind you of the speeches of the then not yet President Boris Yeltsin (the former leader of Moscow, the 1st secretary of the Moscow City Committee of the CPSU, a candidate member of the Politburo of the Central Committee) during his trips to the United States: while still a member of the CPSU, a deputy, he broadcast to the Americans that communism - this is a chimera and promised to have a hand in the fight against these ideas. So the scum sat at the very top and of course they had numerous accomplices all over the country. The Soviet Union did not disintegrate, did not collapse, but it was destroyed by traitors from within and enemies in the West.
      1. Oleg Rambover Online Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Rambover) 3 December 2020 23: 36
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        Quote: Nik Kulinich
        I didn't live at that time, but I reason?

        In 1991 I was 17. I hope you don’t dare to talk about the times of Stalin, or even more so tsarist Russia, you did not live then.

        Quote: Nik Kulinich
        The Soviet Union did not disintegrate, did not collapse, but it was destroyed by traitors from within and enemies in the West.

        Your conspiracy theory does not negate that a planned economy is always in short supply.
        Can you answer a simple question for me, why should Gorbachev and Khrushchev destroy the country? For what? From natural harm? Gorbachev was the all-powerful leader of the second most powerful country in the world, and he became a pensioner. For what reasons could he act?

        And if we assume that you are right and there was a worldwide Masonic conspiracy to destroy the USSR, in which the leaders of the USSR at all levels participated in large numbers, then you do not think that this speaks of the weakness of the USSR, in which the "traitors" whatever they want, do they create and occupy higher positions? And weakness is a direct path to collapse.
        1. Vyacheslav N. Offline Vyacheslav N.
          Vyacheslav N. (Vyacheslav Unknown) 12 December 2020 12: 57
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          About Khrushchev, only idiots can talk like that, who did not live at that time! Nikita Sergeevich gave everyone an old-age pension, which was now taken away, moreover, for the first time in the whole world, and houses were built ahead of the five-year plan. Before that, everyone lived in barracks and basements.
  8. boriz Online boriz
    boriz (boriz) 21 November 2020 19: 55
    +8
    All this is well known. And when the prices were released, everything suddenly appeared on the shelves. Where from? I don't remember all the prices, but here is the bread on 31.12.1991/20/01.01.1992. cost 20 kopecks per loaf, and XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX. - already XNUMX rubles. Despite the fact that salaries have not changed in any way. It was called "shock therapy".
    But this is not an invention of the Central Committee of the CPSU or the 5th Directorate of the KGB. At the beginning of 1917. Echelons with food on their way to St. Petersburg were driven into dead ends. And food was spoiled or stolen. And in St. Petersburg there was a well-organized food shortage. What served as the basis for one of the first "color" revolutions, which, as you know, do not occur in the poorest countries.
    The USSR was torn apart for a long time and diligently. Introduced distortions in development, up to the ideological level. And thus, they aroused doubts in people (more precisely, disbelief) in the chosen path. And this has already been hammered into the subconscious of the people. Already in the West, the ideas of socialism (left-conservative) are gaining more and more popularity, but in our country it is still like that joke: spoons were found, but the residue remained ...
    1. Xuli (o) Tebenado 21 November 2020 20: 27
      -3
      And when the prices were released, everything suddenly appeared on the shelves. Where from?

      "Everything suddenly appeared on the shelves" from about the same place where it appeared after 1921, when the tax in kind was introduced instead of the surplus appropriation, which brought the country to complete ruin and the former cause of several powerful uprisings. Around the same time, sailors with Mausers and wooden heads were torn away from the peasants who were feeding the country, and they remembered the simplest economic laws that immediately filled warehouses, counters and shop windows.
      1. boriz Online boriz
        boriz (boriz) 21 November 2020 20: 36
        +6
        For one New Year's Eve?
        Just don't tell us about the market, which has an invisible hand ... blah blah blah ...
        Already 20 years as no one will believe.
        1. Xuli (o) Tebenado 21 November 2020 20: 53
          -4
          I did not count the nights there.
          I am not telling you anything about the market, as it is useless.
          From that whole history, I know one thing: the die-hard have profiled their country and are still looking for those to blame. And these guilty persons, in their stubborn judgment, are anyone, but not themselves.
      2. nov_tech.vrn Offline nov_tech.vrn
        nov_tech.vrn (Michael) 22 November 2020 13: 41
        +3
        The provisional appropriation of the invention of the interim government, do not look in the morning the films that were riveted in modern Russia, these creators were once in France, they were called bohemians, they were not even buried in cemeteries.
        1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
          Alexzn (Alexander) 22 November 2020 14: 54
          -2
          Procurement of inventions of the interim government, do not watch movies in the morning

          Why not just find out ... The prodrazvestka introduced in 1919 is an invention of the provisional government, which was thrown off in 1917 ...
          1. nov_tech.vrn Offline nov_tech.vrn
            nov_tech.vrn (Michael) 22 November 2020 21: 55
            +4
            In 1916, because of the food crisis in the cities, Nicholas II introduced state purchases of grain. In March 1917, the Provisional Government tightens the tsar's policy. The voluntary principle of delivery of bread is abolished, a mandatory one is introduced. The norm for personal consumption of peasant families (food, sowing, private sale) is approved.
            A grain monopoly is introduced and the private trade in grain is prohibited. The purchase price falls, money depreciates, the peasants refuse to sell grain. The Bolsheviks exacerbated this practice.
          2. Vyacheslav N. Offline Vyacheslav N.
            Vyacheslav N. (Vyacheslav Unknown) 12 December 2020 13: 01
            0
            Now everything is repeated. in a copy after 100 years.
  9. isofat Offline isofat
    isofat (isofat) 21 November 2020 22: 37
    +2
    You can't just declare capitalism without enterprising people who don't know the taste of money. Given that all this must happen without a civil war.

    Where can you find a private owner in a socialist country if you suddenly decide to build capitalism? How to grow it?

    Let the Democrats in the media preach entrepreneurship and capitalism. Make amendments to allow goods to be released from warehouses. Make hot goods in short supply, i.e. remove from stores. .... The process has started.
  10. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 22 November 2020 09: 25
    -4
    It's fun to read this analysis of history. An old Soviet / Russian habit - you have lost such a country! Part of the population cries about the Tsar Father and the Russian Empire, some about the master Stalin and the mighty USSR, they don't cry about Khrushchev, they cry about the stagnant-drinking Brezhnev and the relative freedom ... The latter, by the way, I can understand.
    Few people think about why it all collapsed and are looking for malicious behind-the-scenes, pests, etc. They prefer to remain silent about the basic problems of the system itself. The obvious is ignored - such a system is effective only in extreme conditions - war, cataclysms, solving global challenges, and then it does not work. Everywhere! Geography and history are proof of this. If you manage to converge at a certain stage (China, Vietnam), you become a b / m successful system, if not, you are marking time as Russia and waiting for a chance in the form of oil prices.
    PS Russia has not converged the system in the worst way, it could be worse.
    Russia has remained a world power with an acceptable standard of living and is developing at the very least.
    How successful the new system can be argue for people who grew up and fit in with it, and the representatives of the scoop can feel sick about how good it was and the blue birds are getting rid of it - this is a dream come true.
  11. Pavel Kovalev Offline Pavel Kovalev
    Pavel Kovalev (Pavel Kovalev) 22 November 2020 14: 17
    +1
    Jews! And who invented?
  12. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 22 November 2020 22: 14
    -2
    Quote: nov_tech.vrn
    In 1916, because of the food crisis in the cities, Nicholas II introduced state purchases of grain. In March 1917, the Provisional Government tightens the tsar's policy. The voluntary principle of delivery of bread is abolished, a mandatory one is introduced. The norm for personal consumption of peasant families (food, sowing, private sale) is approved.
    A grain monopoly is introduced and the private trade in grain is prohibited. The purchase price falls, money depreciates, the peasants refuse to sell grain. The Bolsheviks exacerbated this practice.

    Sorry, but the forced sale of agricultural products to the state at fixed prices was a worldwide practice during the First World War (and in the second for most of the belligerent countries). In Soviet Russia, they went much further, up to the complete confiscation of agricultural products, including the seed fund.
    1. tanyurg56 Offline tanyurg56
      tanyurg56 (Yuri Gorbunov) 28 November 2020 18: 08
      0
      What kind of apple tree you have so rotten, instead of a family tree in the family was !? It seems that they watered and looked after for free, but the wormy apple is still ripe!
  13. Rashid116 Offline Rashid116
    Rashid116 (Rashid) 23 November 2020 16: 11
    +1
    Well, okay, we figured it out. Nobody really argues with the author, because they themselves have witnessed all this. And what's next? What, do not bother anyone at all with these people who arranged it all for us? And we all know them and they still in power, and do not rot in a ditch with a ripped belly with all their servants. In the next elections, everyone will again vote for the same scum, because they have realized now how they will tear off their vest and lead us to light capitalism. And, these guppies also have an excuse their cowardice, they have already stolen, but new ones will come ...
  14. Vladimir Bikbulatov (Vladimir Bikbulatov) 23 November 2020 21: 34
    -1
    I would love to read the author's version of the explanations of the "ubiquitous queues", but I stood there! And the author, it seems, did not find that time, and in this he did not really get a job
  15. Zinoviy Offline Zinoviy
    Zinoviy (Zinovy) 30 November 2020 15: 47
    -1
    Blatant lie.
    Calculation for ignorant citizens.
    Twice in the history of the USSR, the KGB resorted to creating an artificial deficit.
    The first time to mentally prepare citizens for the removal of Khrushchev from office.
    The second time to interrupt Gorbachev's Perestroika and prepare the mood of citizens for the collapse of the USSR.
    In both the first and second cases, the KGB did not take much trouble to identify and punish the saboteurs, but this was not done.
    You can't punish yourself ...
  16. Alexey A. Offline Alexey A.
    Alexey A. (Alexey) 30 November 2020 18: 51
    +2
    Out of respect for the author of the article, I registered on the site. A very good article, but not complete. There are two more major causes of deficits. The first is the anti-alcohol decree, which was akin to Prohibition in the United States in the early 30s and almost led to the collapse of the United States. The second, even more important reason was the abolition of the wage fund by Gorbachev at enterprises, which gave rise to the release of a mass of money unsecured by goods. And, as the author quite rightly writes, the restoration of capitalism, or rather Gorbachev's personal decree in April 89 on the introduction of private ownership of the means of production, which was de facto already legalized almost immediately after his coming to power. And massive deficits are just the flip side of the cap. medals. Stabilize prices today and goods will quickly disappear from the shelves. Let go of prices and inflation starts. That's the whole trick.
    1. afil Offline afil
      afil (Alexander Smirnov) 1 December 2020 11: 47
      0
      The "developed" countries have no deficits, low inflation and relatively high wages. All this at the same time. The point is that it is not enough to switch to a market economy. It is necessary to increase labor productivity at times. And with this we have always had a problem.
    2. shleev.nikolaj Offline shleev.nikolaj
      shleev.nikolaj (Nikolay Shleev) 2 December 2020 14: 23
      0
      the article is very inaccurate and biased all the same, the authorities tried as best they could, and did not specifically seek the collapse of the country. That's the fact that the anti-alcohol company was not successful and even harmful, I agree with you. The anti-tobacco company was also launched by someone and the sharp disappearance of cigarettes is a consequence of these I worked in a store in the late 80s, the management from the market told us to put cigarettes somewhere in the distance and unnoticed. Then they just began to disappear. It looks like it was planned.
  17. shonsu Offline shonsu
    shonsu (Shonsu) 1 December 2020 10: 26
    +1
    I cannot confirm whether the warehouses were full of goods, but I know for sure that the goods of the USSR were exported to Poland. I drove myself. Until now, somewhere in the garage, there are leftovers from mortise locks, latches and other junk. Still, I think there were no warehouses. Because in small towns it is not possible to store such information. There are always watchmen, cleaners, porters and other personnel, not to mention storekeepers, managers and cops. In a city with a population of 50, rumors spread in 000-2 days, reaching everyone. And there was always a deficit, not everything, of course, but there was. As long as I remember, mayonnaise, chickens, tangerine oranges, fresh meat, peas, but anything could disappear from the sale, but usually not for long. In the late 3s, Poles came to visit us frequently. They sold jeans and cheap tape recorders, and bought gold, locks, hammers, axes, other tools, sets, dishes. We have a gold store downstairs, my mother ran at night, took a line, sold in the morning. In general, I think not everything is so simple, we still will not know the truth of what happened. Our Soviet way of life is well shown in the film "The Diamond Arm", I think everyone will agree.
  18. afil Offline afil
    afil (Alexander Smirnov) 1 December 2020 12: 24
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    Regarding the absence of a deficit under Brezhnev, it is not true. I lived in the regional center from 64th to 74th years. It was queuing time. If there is no queue in the store, it means nothing has been "thrown out", i.e. don't sell scarcity. There was always no meat, sausage, fruit, good sweets. Eggs, butter, some cereals, then black, then white bread disappeared periodically. Tomato sprat, condensed milk and mayonnaise, however, have always been. For manufactured goods, there was a shortage of cars, furniture, carpets, crystal, televisions, tape recorders, and books. It was necessary to "sign up" for everything, but there were queues to record. Parents with sighs recalled the 50s, when "everything was," but they made a reservation that in cities. In the village shops and then it was a rolling ball.
  19. LLIAyPMA Offline LLIAyPMA
    LLIAyPMA (Oleg) 1 December 2020 13: 46
    0
    The building that allowed such a widespread deficit is shit, not the building. Therefore, it is correct that they threw off.
  20. Eugene Offline Eugene
    Eugene (Eugene) 1 December 2020 14: 28
    +2
    By the way, near St. Petersburg, during the food blockade, there were compositions full of food, about this was Nevzorov's report "300 seconds", I wonder who in Leningrad at that time was responsible for food? The question is certainly interesting.
  21. Vlad Weird Offline Vlad Weird
    Vlad Weird (Vlad Weird) 1 December 2020 14: 56
    +2
    The Nazis pursued a similar policy of "recruiting" soldiers for the war. They showed a candy (in our case, high-quality imported clothes) and took away the most necessary things (a shortage of goods, products) as a whip. So the technique has already been used.
  22. jocker4141 Offline jocker4141
    jocker4141 (Igor Shubkarin) 1 December 2020 23: 39
    0
    Well, tovarisch Necropny A. amused him with his fairy tale about a "happy" life in a "union", about "high-quality" goods, especially not grocery ones. TV sets were sent for export, of course they were sent and washing machines were sent - the question is where? And sent to "brothers" in Mongolia, North Korea, Cuba, to support impoverished socialism! Under the executioner Dzhugashvili, Neukropny had an abundance, an abundance of which - black craters and camps! There was abundance in the film-fairy tale "Kuban Cossacks", but there was devastation and hunger in the country, and prisoners and soldiers worked on "great" construction sites! And now I have one question for the comrades who shed tears over the loss of socialism - how much will you whine that you will not return your "great" USSR? You profuked him (to put it mildly) in 91, why didn't you defend him "heroes" ?! You were then, and now the majority! But it is easier for you to blame one person, Gorbachev or Yeltsin, or even both, than to admit your worthlessness!
  23. Lena Smolentseva (Lena Smolentseva) 2 December 2020 00: 13
    -3
    It's a complete lie! At least for the city in which I live - Yoshkar-Ola. The shelves did not become empty in the 90s or even in the 80s (this is in Yoshkar-Ola). And around 1975 there were coupons for meat, butter, and a little later for everything else. The most that neither is the Brezhnev time, even then no one knew about Gorbachev, and nothing was known about Yeltsin and others.
    1. Anatoly Esipov Offline Anatoly Esipov
      Anatoly Esipov (Anatoly Esipov) 5 December 2020 20: 44
      +1
      In 75g, there was a drought and this natural phenomenon coincided with the beginning of the decline of the USSR economy, later called stagnation, but there were still 10-12 years to empty shelves. And you rather just had bad suppliers.
  24. alex-sherbakov48 2 December 2020 07: 39
    +3
    I completely agree with the author! The scoundrels from the state government did everything to enrich themselves and fulfill the assignments of the US State Department for the collapse of the USSR! But so far none of them has been convicted or imprisoned, although it was sometimes shown on TV how food was forcibly dumped under the barrels of pistols and machine guns under the pretext that these were not high-quality products. People who lived in the vicinity of these dumps, then carried this abundance in bags and cars to their homes and markets.
  25. Timofey K. Offline Timofey K.
    Timofey K. (Timofey) 2 December 2020 08: 14
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    In 1960, there is a food crisis. The people began to express open discontent. It got to the point that, in 1962, in the city of Novocherkassk, an uprising took place, which with numerous victims was brutally suppressed by the authorities. N.S. Khrushchev, who led the party at that time, was forced to carry out reforms.
    After their failure, N. Khrushchev was ingloriously removed from the political scene and the Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR A. Kosygin had the opportunity to reform the entire economy of the country. This reform, from the eighth five-year plan of the country's development plan, introduced the self-supporting principle of the activities of enterprises, which introduced elements of market relations. The main indicators of the enterprise's activity are: commercial products sold by the enterprise, its cost and profitability.
    The results of the 8th Five-Year Plan were outstanding: the national income increased by 42%, the volume of gross industrial output by 51%, and agriculture by 21%. The deficit of consumer goods was eliminated.
    But the joy was not long, because, by coincidence, in the early 70s, for the first time, due to the sale of oil, there was an opportunity to earn currency in large volumes, and to buy consumer goods (consumer goods). Thanks to this, the Union lived comfortably for almost 15 more years. With the emergence of significant export earnings, the orthodox, the leading wing of the CPSU cheered up, and already in the 9th five-year plan, on the basis that market relations are an ulcer of capitalism, achieved the closure of the "Cost accounting" project, but did not offer anything in return, which, after the fall oil prices, in the end, again led the Union to a total emptiness of store shelves and to coupons for the entire range of consumer goods.
    After the "Five-Year Funeral" of 3 elderly general secretaries and a nucleus of conservative-minded members of the Politburo, the remaining cohort of old party members decided to transfer power to the young secretary general.
    M.S. Gorbachev, came to the empty shelves, which his closest circle did not know how to fill. Therefore, Gorbachev himself and his associates did not particularly resist when Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich, despite the nationwide referendums in support of the preservation of the USSR, abolished the USSR with their sole signatures. According to the "good old tradition" their decisions were almost unanimously approved by the legislative bodies of the republics.
    Since then, we have been looking for "traitors and spies" who led the Union to collapse.
  26. shleev.nikolaj Offline shleev.nikolaj
    shleev.nikolaj (Nikolay Shleev) 2 December 2020 13: 50
    0
    Deficit and shortage of some and even many goods were almost always under Soviet rule, and completely empty shelves in 90-91 it was an incredible rush demand caused not by the ability or even the desire of the country's leadership to regulate this madness by raising prices, because it was such a chip in the USSR They say this is an achievement of socialism and how it can be canceled. I myself saw that they brought bread, salt three times more to the store than before and bought everything clean.
  27. Ivan Grinev Offline Ivan Grinev
    Ivan Grinev (Victor Machikhin) 2 December 2020 15: 42
    -1
    Author - you are a demagogue. You propose to sort out the time. Quote:

    ... Of course, Khrushchev destroyed the Stalinist abundance of pickles (during which the state had to print posters encouraging citizens to eat crabs) with his sabotage "reforms" and, above all, with his absolutely insane agricultural policy ... Under Brezhnev, but already at the suggestion of Gorbachev, in 1982 he had to accept the famous "Food Program".

    In your opinion, it turns out that after the death of Stalin, there was no Soviet power, since there were problems with food, which were created by traitorous leaders. And about the crabs, which the citizens did not want to eat, this is the aerobatics of propaganda. Small crayfish, if, already cracked behind the ears, but crabs are not to your taste.
    Dear author, if you watch Stalin's films, such as "Kuban Cossacks", then back in the thirties the peasants overeat to death, and did not die of hunger.
    And about import in general, the song:

    ... half a million color TVs and 200 thousand washing machines have flowed abroad ...

    This figure in terms of international trade is comparable to the mathematical error. A country with a population of 293 million has sold 200 washing machines abroad. Author, what are you talking about?
    1. Nik Kulinich Offline Nik Kulinich
      Nik Kulinich (Nik Kulinich) 3 December 2020 20: 43
      0
      study the export of the USSR, then reason: they sold hundreds of military and civil aircraft annually (civil aircraft of Soviet production flew in thousands in almost all countries), tens of thousands of tractors, cars, combines, sea and river vessels, hundreds of thousands of televisions, refrigerators, watches, electrical goods of the most different, millions of meters of fabrics of excellent quality. Go buy satin now, and earlier soldier's underpants were produced in millions of pieces. You don't know a damn thing, but you reason. Nuclear power plants have been built all over the world - the highest technology.
    2. Anatoly Esipov Offline Anatoly Esipov
      Anatoly Esipov (Anatoly Esipov) 5 December 2020 20: 35
      +1
      The author is right when talking about pickles. Under Stalin, it was really much better with supplies than under his followers. Khrushchev destroyed the cooperatives, which provided 6% of the GDP. And this was the first blow to the socialist economy. And in 62 he raised the prices for meat and milk. And there were also Sovnarkhozes, industrial and agricultural regional committees, district committees, MTS converted into RTS and Agricultural machinery (militia into police))))) and much more and became a four-time hero
  28. Ura nord Offline Ura nord
    Ura nord (Ura Nord) 2 December 2020 15: 43
    +2
    If now we collect 100 kg of sausage from the shelves, then this will be approximately equal to the amount of meat in one Soviet stick !! Likewise, in milk, the abundance of products at the moment is not from the amount of meat and milk produced in Russia but from the amount of imported soybeans and milk powder !!!!
  29. Evgeny Kharitonov (Evgeny Kharitonov) 2 December 2020 19: 20
    +1
    all the secretaries komunyak lived under "communism" - housekeepers, chauffeurs ... all for free. EVERYTHING !!! therefore, they did not care about the country's problems. After Stalin's death, the USSR was doomed.
  30. Wanda Offline Wanda
    Wanda (Wanda) 2 December 2020 22: 09
    +1
    The author speaks of a retired general who assures that in times of shortage, warehouses were bursting with an abundance of food, but they could not be put on sale, since there were no instructions from Moscow. I don't know what the general said there, but our family knew a lady who worked in the trade system during perestroika; she was a store manager (i.e. store director). She then did not hide the fact that she had a lot of goods in the warehouse. To the question "Why were the counters empty?" she, without hesitation, answered, they say, why sell at state prices, if from under the counter it is possible to sell much more expensive; that she is a fool? And she didn't need any permission from above, especially from Moscow. Moreover, the leaders in Moscow hardly knew the situation on the ground, and if they did, they had no idea what to do. After all, Gorbachev was always looking for a consensus with his colleagues before making a decision, and if he did make something on his own, it was most likely Raisa Maksimovna who did it for him. It is surprising that under such a leadership, the country still existed for several years. And the author turns out that the leadership purposefully destroyed the country; some kind of conspiracy theory. To the conspiracy theorists, I can only say one thing: no group of conspirators, in order to realize their selfish plans, would ever have contacted such worthless people as Gorbachev, who would certainly fail any business. In fact, everything is much simpler: people who would hardly have the right to lead a collective farm brigade began to lead a large country.
    1. Nikolay Boldetsov 3 December 2020 18: 06
      +2
      The country was deliberately deprived of food and this was done on instructions from the very top. In 1989, I came to Moscow on a business trip and went to the store to buy something to eat ... I was offered to show my passport and when I saw my Kamchatka registration, they didn't even sell bread. After a short time, the shelves in Moscow stores were empty. It is no secret that all the best went to the counters of Moscow ... After the instructions of the Moscow authorities not to serve nonresidents, the latter rebelled and supplies to Moscow stopped.
      Didn't Gorbachev know? Knew !!! and did everything deliberately with the sole purpose of destroying the USSR.
  31. Nikolay Boldetsov 3 December 2020 18: 00
    +2
    The deficit in the USSR was varied, both in essence and in time.
    But the empty shelves under Gorbachev were created by orders from above, and this is beyond doubt. I would like to share with you my memories of the beginning of 1986.
    At that time I was working as a captain in Kamchatka. In the first days of 1986, we went to the cod fishery off the eastern coast of Kamchatka, the Northern Kuriles and the Sea of ​​Okhotsk.
    In the navigation service, I was offered to sign a document that could not be refused. In this document it was said that for the delivery of fish "to the side" the captain is removed from his post. In other words, I was forbidden to hand over fish to any floating bases that are not assigned to Kamchatka.
    The strangest thing was that 80% of the floating bases were assigned to Primorye ...
    Naturally, I violated this prescription and sometimes I had to make daily crossings in order to hand over the fish, as there were sorely lack of Kamchatka floating bases.
    For example, I come to the second Kuril Strait. There are four huge floating bases. Each floating base has about 500 crew members. And none of the floating bases has a single fish tail ...
    At this time in Moscow there is a party conference, which is spoken by many "smart" words ...
    I had to indicate in the control rooms that we were repairing fishing gear and there were no fish. And they themselves went and handed over fish to "third-party" bases ...
    Fishing vessels are standing, floating bases are idle ... And all this was with the knowledge and orders of the supreme bureaucrats ...
    The country was rolling into an abyss and the main argument was on empty shelves ...
  32. Karmalinsky Offline Karmalinsky
    Karmalinsky (Paul) 3 December 2020 19: 50
    +1
    I suggest studying management theory. Those who understand global politics always remember that they always and in everything leave us only two choices, bad and very bad. They left us only three secondary powers, the judiciary, the executive and the legislature. Legislature they told us the main authority. In fact, there is even more important power - this is the idea, ie, ideological power (Stalin has the ideology "Man to man. Friend to comrade and brother") and the most important conceptual power, ie how we will live. Stalin has a concept: "He who does not work, he does not eat." They banned the idea and concept in Russia, see the Constitution of Russia. If someone today will free Russia from filth, then 99,9% of patriots will shoot him in the back. 99.9% of the leaders and population of Russia do not know the full management function (PFU) of the Russian state and do not want to know. It's like the example of controlling a nuclear reactor or a submarine. If the submarine is not controlled according to the full control function, then this submarine will certainly perish at sea. The sea does not forgive mistakes. Russia is alive only because according to the PFU Russia is governed from Israel. Under the Soviet Union there was a slogan "Our helmsman's party", but the helmsman is a sailor on a ship who follows the captain's instructions. But the captain is sailing on the course laid by the navigator who lives abroad. They even bring the blessed fire not yet from Yerevan, but from Israel. They have been studying PFU since childhood, but they introduced us to the USE and said: you are all the smartest anyway. See PFCs (Full Control Function) in Yandex until they are removed or see Generic Controls Priorities (MSRP).
  33. Andrey Shotsky Offline Andrey Shotsky
    Andrey Shotsky (andrey shotsky) 4 December 2020 12: 33
    +3
    But what is there to talk about Ingushetia, when all the railway tracks around Moscow within a radius of 50 km were packed with trains with food that stood for months, no one unloaded them and was corny to rot, and Moscow choked in queues. "Democratic" Mayor Gavryusha Popov made its own business, according to Brzezinski's instructions, it is necessary to make their refrigerators speak for them. There was just a grocery Apocalypse on the paths, the stench was on the whole district, local boys ran from under the carriages of maggots dragging buckets to a bird, rats ran in herds of size Then, as students, we went to work there, clean the cars, I saw enough then for the rest of my life and let someone say that there was nothing to eat in the USSR.
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  35. Sergey Grachev Offline Sergey Grachev
    Sergey Grachev (Sergey Grachev) 4 December 2020 23: 07
    +1
    I would like to add 2 points.
    1. I think everyone who lived before perestroika often heard about long-term construction, but did not really understand what it threatened.
    But in reality, 7 years of the country's investments were buried in long-term construction. It seems not a lot, but this is comparable to the material losses of the USSR from the Second World War, and this is not counting the expected return on investment.
    Now do you understand what was meant by the word stagnation?
    2. The second point is the supply of the periphery. I lived in a closed city with special supplies. And I want to say that the USSR was supplied very unevenly. The paradox was that the more the supply management apparatus developed, the worse it actually happened. I think people also remember the popular profession of a supplier who traveled all over the country and changed cement for wheels, wheels for fuel, fuel for boots, etc.
    Why did this happen? I think that the factor that Khrushchev changed personnel selection and created a party elite, which was supplied by a separate caste of suppliers, played a role here, and these 2 systems from the inside destroyed the supply system more than progress contributed to the improvement of the process. In addition, audit and control was constantly reduced.
    And yes, I fully support the author that the USSR under Brezhnev had full opportunities to provide the population at the household level and this did not happen only because of sabotage and breakdown of the system.
    People scold socialism and the USSR, but in fact their life was spoiled by their gradual destruction.
    As for the full warehouses, there were a lot of public scandals in Leningrad, when they showed not just lying goods, but their destruction by bulldozers on an industrial scale.
    And in my city, for example, for some reason stupidly there were no shoes. There was a lot, but there were no shoes. Moreover, as soon as local enterprises obtained the right to trade abroad, all that was lacking was brought from the CMEA countries at the expense of barter. Those. by and large there was no problem in terms of the trade deficit.
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  37. Marat Valiakhmetov (Marat Valiakhmetov) 5 December 2020 18: 23
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    written right the way it was
  38. Anatoly Esipov Offline Anatoly Esipov
    Anatoly Esipov (Anatoly Esipov) 5 December 2020 20: 16
    +2
    The newspaper "Socialist Industry" wrote about the facts of payment of loaders for ... NON-UNLOADING of cars. I myself have observed a huge pile-up of wagons in the Perovo area with the destination Karacharovo. This station received trains providing the capital with all the necessary goods, but no one unloaded them. So the author is right. I would like to add that the shortage of goods was caused by another habitat. Gorbachev brought back to life the cooperatives that swept many stock goods off the shelves, which also negatively affected the economy of the USSR, which was not ready for the appearance of such a large number of consumers in the person of cooperatives. And there was also a reform of the economy for the transition to self-financing, and many workers had a lot of money, but productivity did not move a single step. The creation of a deficit was first used in 1964 to eliminate Khrushchev. And then everything appeared as if by magic, and even after the start of Gaidar's reforms, abundance appeared. Isn't it strange?
  39. Aleksandr_12 Offline Aleksandr_12
    Aleksandr_12 (Saveliev Alexander) 6 December 2020 10: 37
    +1
    In general, it's not like that.

    The union of an empty refrigerator and a TV pouring out streams of lies

    - the person who wrote this has no idea what he is writing about. The refrigerators were just full and the stores were empty. Deficit is the excess of the money supply over the commodity volume. The people had a lot of money, and the state prices were low. They swept away everything that appeared in stores. But it all started gradually and slowly. When under Stalin, the bulk of the people lived in the countryside and earned their workdays by receiving natural products for them. The population had little money and store shelves were full of goods. This product was simply not sold out - there was not enough money. When they began to raise the welfare of the people and increase wages, the goods from the stores began to gradually decrease. But how did wages rise, maybe labor productivity grew like in the West, maybe new technologies were introduced? It was, of course, but not at all to the extent that life demanded. Salaries were increased by administrative means and at the expense of postscripts. Subscriptions were everywhere, who lived at that time, he knows. It was a time of egalitarianism, fraud and annotations. They received more money than they actually earned. The deficit began to be felt in the early 70s. There is Raikin's monologue recorded in 1972 "Deficit" where he talks about the importance of a commodity expert and store director. The deficit gave birth to BLAT. In the mid-70s, sausage trains went to Moscow. This is the heyday of Brezhnev's rule, there was no Gorbachev anywhere. The scarcity gave birth to the SHADOW ECONOMY. There were rich people organizing underground workshops for the production of consumer goods. The deficit gave birth to SPECULATION. Selling "from under the counter" turned out to be more profitable than selling honestly. The deficit gave birth to FARTSOVKA, almost the same as speculation, but they sold goods brought by sailors and tourists from abroad. The economy was completely skewed. Labor has ceased to be appreciated due to scarcity, cronyism, postscripts and leveling. Why work hard if they still pay as much as a bum next to you, why work hard if you can't buy anything without cronyism. The deficit gave birth to a LOT of those who had no cronyism. Queues for everything! The scarcity gave birth to the DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM. Regions of the country and national outskirts were supplied in different ways. In the Union republics and in the capital, they were the last to learn about the deficit, but they should have realized how well they were in the union state. The distribution system also affected different segments of the population in one city. Those who were "more equal" to equals were supplied from special distributors. Was there a way out to correct the crooked economy? Yes, he was. It was necessary to "release" retail prices or get rid of the postscripts. But the former meant the abandonment of the socialist economy, and the latter meant the police state. We partially tried to resolve the issue with prices - they opened cooperative stores. Andropov tried to make a police state, but did not live long. Signs, cronyism, leveling and lack of unemployment led to a total drunkenness of the people. Gorbachev did not come up with an anti-alcohol campaign from scratch. The country really got drunk. They tried to reduce the deficit by purchasing goods abroad. But here the foreign "friends of the USSR" helped, the oil prices collapsed and the country simply did not have enough currency for purchases abroad, besides, other "friends of the USSR" (the countries of the socialist camp and sympathizers) demanded attention in the form of currency rain. In short, to correct the distorted economy it was necessary to change the planned economy to a market one. What happened. It happened everywhere, all over the world, except for the two states of Cuba and North Korea, and they only rely on the leaders. Their leaders will die and they, too, will "lift their pants" and run away from the social economy. But in the transition from social to market economy, we made a huge mistake. We, unlike China, raised our own class of entrepreneurs, raised our billionaires on privatization, and China raised its own in production, although we started the same way - we allowed the opening of cooperatives and began to “release” prices. Rounding off. In conclusion, I will only tell those who love the exact terms of a purely planned and purely market economy at the present stage, of course, there is no, but the basic differences remain the same. The social economy of the USSR was supposed to collapse and it collapsed for objective reasons, not as a result of conspiracies.
  40. 89067359490 Offline 89067359490
    89067359490 (Nikolai) 6 December 2020 18: 48
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    If the system regularly lagged behind and regularly failed to cope with the saturation of the consumer product, can the system be to blame, and not the cogs in it?)
  41. Algoll66 Offline Algoll66
    Algoll66 (Algoll66.) 7 December 2020 22: 35
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    I agree with the author 100%. It annoys me unrealistically when I see the phrases "stagnation" or "swamp" in relation to the Brezhnev period of rule. And when I demand proof, they show me a photo or other information from the late 80s, early 90s. When they start talking about "cards", queues, empty counters, and all that, but again, in relation to the Brezhnev time, although this is a lie. All the most disgusting and bad things in the USSR began with Gorbachev, continued with Yeltsin and ... the USSR ended there.
  42. eugenyi Offline eugenyi
    eugenyi (Eugene) 7 December 2020 23: 09
    0
    Humpback! Corona virus take you apart, damn you tagged devil! Personally, I'll come to your grave to spit!
  43. ivanyh Offline ivanyh
    ivanyh (Valery) 8 December 2020 06: 26
    0
    And Putin sings about galoshes, one gang.
  44. Vladimir yasnopolyansky (Vladimir the medicine man Yasnopolyansky) 8 December 2020 11: 15
    +1
    I worked in the Tula defense industry and met the workers even before the military training. They said that under Stalin everything was available. And as soon as Khrushchev interceded, it began. My mother went to Moscow to buy food and things - everything was of the highest quality, and the bus for the employees was specially allocated from the enterprise.
  45. viktor.3lis Offline viktor.3lis
    viktor.3lis (Victor Eliseev) 8 December 2020 17: 51
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    I propose that when Gorbachev "dies", bury him away from the cemetery fence. Write on the monument: "Mikhail S. Gorbachev is buried here. This traitor to the Motherland made Russia starve." And I assure you that the folk path will not grow to it.
  46. SCHAMAN Offline SCHAMAN
    SCHAMAN (Boris Batudaev) 10 December 2020 10: 01
    +1
    Well, finally, there was a man who told the whole truth about that time. How many times have I said that the late 80s and early 90s are no longer the Soviet Union. Thanks to the author. Supported.
  47. Nikolay Margishvili (Nikolay Margishvili) 10 December 2020 11: 19
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    This is far-fetched nonsense. Manipulations with dates and facts in an attempt to whitewash the crimes of the soviet party nomenclature. I had a chance to ride around the USSR as a guide, from 1981 to 1983. Neither perestroika, nor Gorbachev with liberals and democrats, then did not smell. The most terry years "scoop". Then he lived in Novosibirsk. In shops, except for "tourist breakfast" and "fish balls", you will not find anything. Everyone went to the "Balka" (flea market in the Dzerzhinsky district of Novosib) to get dressed. And people brought food from other regions. For example, in Tashkent there was an abundance of food and clothing. It was like going abroad. If in Novosibirsk there were only Cuban and Vietnamese cigarettes, diluted with Priboi cigarettes and Yugoslavian Pall Mal. Alcohol was generally in a terrible shortage. Queues were taken in advance and limited the number of bottles sold. In Tashkent, the counters were full of Marlbor, Kent, Camal and Chesterfield. Alcohol amazed with assortment. From Tashkent he brought to Novosibirsk a rare, even today, divine Czech drink "Bercherovka". Imported wines and cognacs. In Tashkent, the cunning conductors bought Indian "mohair" blankets, and cut them into fashionable scarves. Increasing income from a blanket 10 times. In Tashkent, I stocked up with sheepskin coats and jeans "Montana" for friends. Even in Moscow, the counters were less crowded. And in the dead ends of the railway, there were ownerless "lost" cars. Once I was present at the autopsy of such a "abandoned". One carriage was loaded with boxes with "digital" mailbox locks, and the second had dirty greasy barrels. When the barrels were opened, the holiday began. Raw smoked sausage was packed in wooden, unsightly barrels. Neatly packaged and filled with fat. I do not know who supervised the opening of the barrels, but we, who were present at the opening, were allowed to pick up the sausages we could carry. Then I got 35 sticks. All friends and relatives were provided with sandwiches with a scarce product for a long time. And finally. In 1976, I had a chance to visit a prison in Novosibirsk. In the morning, the prisoners were fed salted HUMANE !!!! Half a huge fish per person. Where from? But everything turned out to be simple. Nobody has ever seen this fish in stores. It was stupidly stored in warehouses until the top layer began to rot. Then the pink salmon were sent to the prisoners (by removing the upper, spoiled layer of fish in the barrel) or the nearest pig farms were pleased with expensive fish.
  48. Victor Andreev_2 (Victor Andreev) 10 December 2020 17: 40
    +1
    Again nonsense. The ruble was provided with goods for only 13 kopecks. It wasn't money anymore. And if so, accordingly, the goods that were lacking were sought to hide and sell on the left. And so guys, it has been since the 60s. And by the end of 80, the imbalance went off scale, and the entire deficit went openly to cooperatives and markets, at prices 5-10 times more expensive. So much for poverty.
  49. Tov bender Offline Tov bender
    Tov bender (Tov Bender) 11 December 2020 03: 47
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    A very, very one-sided judgment. Like, all the troubles are someone's conspiracy. Well, who needed to destroy the USSR? Certainly not Gorbachev and Ryzhkov
  50. Max Lepschik Offline Max Lepschik
    Max Lepschik (Max Lepschik) 11 December 2020 10: 27
    +1
    The whole point is that the program of the USSR denied the very fact of the country's sovereignty. There are laws on the sovereignty of the country, but there are no structures. It also denies the current Russian Federation, the same USSR, only a synonym. The Federation, this is the union of states, everything in our country is based on dominion confederations of the West, the Roman Empire. When foreigners saw that as a result of the sanctions on their goods, our peoples did not get confused, like many others from the third world countries, and quickly organized, creating their own production, they came up with the concept of "black" sanctions. It was not just that they dekulakized and destroyed the NEP, created the unitarity of the world government, in other words, the "council of allied states" - of course, there is nothing in fact there is no state, it is actually an administrative union of provinces. Although there were many problems with such a program, in particular different mentality of nations. Take, for example, the Americans, who exterminated the cannibals-Indians. Not just like that, everyone there took up guns. And, of course, stress on the basis of mentality in the absence of a national lism as a pretext for fascism and their forced unification, created many secret wars, as a result of which the locals suffered very much and as a result of a terrible, crisis economy, corruption arose, and then its influence and victory in the Cold War.
    Pay attention to how easy it is to acquire our citizenship, I will say even more openly, it is possible to acquire it without facts of birth in the country, or service, so with an incomprehensible oath and also to the world government and not specifically Russia, to a greater extent, a federation. If you are under the auspices of the government. , the citizenship of the Russian Federation will be issued to you without any problems and without any sanctions.
    At some point, I am grateful to these foreign people and saw in them an indicator of decency, therefore, according to moral etiquette, I cannot speak badly about these people. They actually did a good deed, showing their peaceful attitude towards many peoples. But unfortunately not all such. By the way, I really like the design of Chevrolet cars, the democracy of their world company is immediately visible in the work, which cannot be said for example about Apple, or Windows, and now it is completely simple because of the same Roman bureaucracy, and of course we see the consequences.
  51. innocent Offline innocent
    innocent (Innokenty Lepekhin) 11 December 2020 12: 28
    +1
    the second half of the 80s, the time of the created deficits. In factories and institutes, freelance brigades of trade inspectors were created. Outside working hours, according to the order, they checked bases, shops, cafes, restaurants, public canteens, pharmacies. They dragged to the counters everything that they found hidden in the back rooms. The acts were drawn up, and where they came next and to whom they fell, I only now understand.
    We were warned, going to check money in our pockets, not to have and to be very careful, because if we do not succumb to the bribe and do not take, then there were cases that they shoved us in and when we left the store, OBKSS specialists were already waiting for us. This speaks of corruption among the cops already then.
    I would like to draw your attention to one thing. Who were all these directors of shops, pharmacies, warehouses, restaurants, vegetable stores and other delicious establishments, on a national basis. You think correctly, those who most of all advocated collapse and "freedom" and who managed to buy up our economy, its most profitable part soon.
    But as soon as they seized power, with our connivance, Russian products immediately fell out on shelves, markets and markets. With agriculture halfway to a standstill, there are no miracles. The process of creating deficits was manageable.
  52. Natalia Kashnikova (Gelmurzina) 11 December 2020 19: 11
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    I was born in 1960 and now I am 60 years old. I completely agree with the author of the article. I remember the shelves of our rural stores, they were littered with groceries and manufactured goods. And the timber industry stores in our area in the 70s are generally a separate conversation. There were many such scarce goods, which in our Krasnoyarsk could be bought only at the "flea market" from speculators. In 1975 she entered the pedagogical school. The shops of the city of Krasnoyarsk were full of both industrial goods and food. There was also a deficit. It was difficult to buy furniture, beautiful dishes and other things. There were queues, records. In 1979 I got married. My husband and I went on vacation in the village to my parents in the summer. In the village shops we bought ourselves dishes: tea and table sets, crystal, a Siberia washing machine (with a centrifuge), a polished wardrobe with a mezzanine. And how many things we bought for ourselves and the children, as well as books, perfumes and haberdashery. villages and imported wines, condensed milk. But then all of a sudden everything began to disappear. We perfectly understood that this was being done on purpose, intentionally. But we just could not know and understand: why this is being done, who benefits from it? They understood that someone at the top, in the government, purposefully destroys collective and state farms, closes, sells and plunders plants and factories and presents all this as perestroika, the flourishing of glasnost and democracy, and the privatization process turned into "privatization." Sobchak came into the world, then Abramovich, Berezovsky and other oligarchs and high-ranking officials, who had become rich at the expense of the people's wealth, taken in the hands of mineral deposits. The people no longer owned absolutely nothing! The people began to live in poverty and begging. This situation continues to this day. Many hospitals, paramedics centers, schools, kindergartens, and post offices were closed under the optimization program in villages and towns. Now they are building new Faps, but they are either empty due to a lack of doctors, or are simply not suitable for normal operation (frame-panel, cold, unsuitable for Siberia and northern territories. They are heated by electricity, which is often cut off). Villages and small towns are simply dying , people do not have the opportunity to earn money, because there is simply no paid job.
  53. Vladimir Velikii (Vladimir Kiselev) 13 December 2020 13: 10
    +1
    When will this marked bastard die? It's a pity there are no more people like Stalin!
  54. Lagerta longbrok (Lagerta Longbrok) 13 December 2020 15: 19
    +1
    I fully support the author's version.
    There is such a great Kazakh Nursultan Abishevich Nazarbayev.
    At that time he was the secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Kazakhstan. And he stood for the preservation of the Union to the last, when everyone had already betrayed the USSR.
    Here he was talking about the "deficit".
    I don't remember literally.
    He arrives at the poultry farm, it is all overwhelmed with products, the corpses of chickens rot on a conveyor belt in warehouses, on the street. He "what is it, tons of rot, people are starving?
    And he has "no cars", "products are not exported", "there is nowhere to store", "the processing factory was destroyed by rotting unsanitary conditions"
    Is he in control of why there are no cars? In response to him, "the decree should not be taken out of Moscow."
    And this was not in distant Kazakhstan, but almost in the capital of our Motherland.
    And it seems that the same situation was with the milk processing enterprise, too, all the butter rotted in storage.
    I may be wrong in details, but the general meaning of Nursultan Abishevich's words was as follows

    I made a simple conclusion: "In order to force the people to demolish the USSR and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, their internal enemies artificially brought them to mass starvation." And it worked.
  55. Vladimir Bikbulatov (Vladimir Bikbulatov) 13 December 2020 15: 37
    0
    The deficit was due to the fact that the government was flirting with the people and raising wages, but the growth of production of goods was not achieved.
  56. hlp5118 Offline hlp5118
    hlp5118 (Hlp) 13 December 2020 16: 22
    +1
    The sabotage was obvious. Ukraine, 1989, we received an order from Glavka: first of all, to ship products to our republic. Not to consider distribution orders. Having phoned city colleagues in other industries, they had similar instructions. Everyone was driven to the black market or abroad. After a couple of months, the shelves were empty.
  57. ivanmironov Offline ivanmironov
    ivanmironov 18 December 2020 19: 16
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    A question to the author - why, in the mid-60s, my family could not buy slate for the roof, cement and edged boards on the free market? This had to be bought for a bribe given by the warehouse manager. Why was it impossible to buy beautiful shoes and clothes in Leningrad in the mid-70s without standing in a terrible queue for 2-3 hours? Why in the same years in Volgograd there was only margarine and salt on the shelves of the Central grocery store? why in all these years it was impossible to buy a household power tool? Why was there a queue for Zhiguli, 4-5 years old? and the queue for a separate apartment, we have in St. Petersburg - 20 years? And such a life was 15 years before Perestroika! And in 1982. at the plenum of the Central Committee, the Food Program was urgently adopted because hunger riots were already looming in the USSR. Perestroika began because it would save the dire situation in the country. If the author did not live in the USSR and does not know anything, then why lie?
    1. Yuriy Nikolaev Offline Yuriy Nikolaev
      Yuriy Nikolaev (Yuri Nikolaev) 21 December 2020 10: 07
      +1
      You don't have to lie about Peter (then Leningrad). I had to wander around the union on business trips, and I traveled from Sverdlovsk to Brest, and from St. Petersburg to Tashkent, the entire European part. In Moscow and St. Petersburg, everything was tip-top, as in the union republics, but in the Russian Federation itself on the periphery, yes, there was a deficit, but this deficit was solved very quickly - we need refrigerators worth 300 rubles - gave the seller 10 rubles and you have, you need a TV for 710 rubles. - gave the seller a maximum of 25 rubles and you have. And most importantly, everyone at home had everything, everyone had enough, but under Gorbachev something else went on.
  58. Yuriy Nikolaev Offline Yuriy Nikolaev
    Yuriy Nikolaev (Yuri Nikolaev) 21 December 2020 10: 02
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    In the 80s I worked as a representative of the plant, and according to my duties I had the right to check the storage of the plant's products at the bases and in stores. Everything was at the bases under Gorbachev, and it was rotten. I asked questions of the head of the base and the head of warehouses - for some reason everything rots and they are not shipped to the stores, and received answers - an order from above not to ship anything, but to destroy the spoiled. So the deficit was created artificially in order to tune the people to the existing government and to destroy it.
  59. Vlad Sinizin Offline Vlad Sinizin
    Vlad Sinizin (Vlad Sinizin) 25 December 2020 14: 20
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    It seems to me that the truth is quite simple. Those people who in 1917 were able to take away the power in Russia from the German tsars turned out to be rather stupid in order to organize a self-sufficient state in Russia. They are dull now. Excessive traditional greed prevents them from thinking rationally.
  60. archer20 Offline archer20
    archer20 (Dmitriy) 26 December 2020 18: 13
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    In the summer of 1990, I saw with my own eyes a dump near Vladimir, where there was a lot of all kinds of food, which was unheard of on store shelves that year.
  61. Alexander Zhukov (Alexander Zhukov) 4 January 2021 19: 08
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    Everything is perfectly written. An artificial shortage of everything and everyone was created, first of all, food. To create a rush demand, it is enough not to satisfy it by 5%. We did it one hundred percent. This was done in order to "release prices" - to make people buy without looking at the amount in the check. Before the deficit was created, there were attempts to raise prices, for example, they tried to sell boiled sausage not at two, but at six rubles. But no one began to buy it and then they arranged a meanness with a deficit. And even before that, Gorbachev introduced a dry law and, on his order, cut down vineyards so that people would not drink light wines, but sivukha. He must be judged!
  62. ivanmironov Offline ivanmironov
    ivanmironov 4 January 2021 22: 14
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    The article is just another lie. The author has no idea that the USSR had neither a normal processing industry nor modern long-term storage systems. What "wagons" are in what "warehouse"? The author does not even know that there was a general deficit in the USSR not only for sausage and toilet paper, but also for manufactured goods and building materials. Did they hide them too? The USSR collapsed because of its moronic administrative-command economy - this is the main reason for the collapse and the communists are diligently hiding it by inventing various lies. Where else is the Soviet-style economy used? That's all the evidence of collapse! Want to ruin America? Then it is necessary to organize an administrative-command economy there. Rest assured America will fall apart very quickly!
    1. Volozhin Offline Volozhin
      Volozhin (Volozhin) 19 January 2021 12: 34
      +1
      What do you think, what could be the personal reason for the author not to give the name and surname of that person from the Checheno-Ingushetia BKSS in 30 years? I would call it - I would recognize (I have a friend who knows how to recognize) email. the address of this person and would ask him (if he is still alive) whether he really dictated to the author a story about his surveys of warehouses with a deficit.
  63. sklyar-volga Offline sklyar-volga
    sklyar-volga (alexey sklyar) 8 January 2021 12: 10
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    In Volgograd and other cities of the Volga region, already in the 70s, food was very bad, no meat products, no milk! There were problems for children to buy milk! Basically, they brought them from Moscow on occasion. For all the years Soviet power has failed to organize the provision of food for the people! In 91st, products appeared.
    1. theRNGC - Offline theRNGC -
      theRNGC - (theRNGC -) 22 January 2021 11: 51
      +1
      That’s why my father was running all over Volgograd so that I, born in 90, could find at least some food. Ah, holy 90s!
  64. Karmalinsky Offline Karmalinsky
    Karmalinsky (Paul) 8 January 2021 12: 30
    +1
    Those who understand global politics (while there are only a few in Russia who know the BCP Concept of Public Safety) know that they have rewritten history for us and always and in everything they leave only two choices, a bad and a very bad choice. They left us with only three secondary powers, the judiciary, the executive and the legislative branch. Legislature they told us the main authority. In fact, there is even more important power - this is the idea, that is, ideological power (Stalin has the ideology "Man is a friend to man, comrade and brother") and the most important power is conceptual, that is, how we will live.

    Stalin has a concept: "He who does not work, he does not eat." They banned the idea and concept in Russia, see the Constitution of Russia. If someone today will free Russia from filth, then those who do not know the BER, and this is 99,9% of the patriots will shoot him in the back. 99.9% of the leaders and the population of Russia do not know (PFU) the full management function and do not want to know. This is like the example of driving a car driver knowing the rules of DD or a submarine. If the submarine is not controlled according to the full control function, then this submarine will certainly perish at sea. The sea does not forgive mistakes. The submarine "Kursk" was not controlled according to the full control function. therefore she died.

    Russia is alive only because according to PFU Russia is governed from Israel. Even if they bring the blessed fire to the church not from Israel, but from Yerevan, for example, no one will be indignant, for us what difference does it make where they brought it. They study PFCs since childhood, and they tell us: you are all the smartest. See PFCs in Yandex until they are removed or see the introductory BER.
  65. Volozhin Offline Volozhin
    Volozhin (Volozhin) 19 January 2021 12: 23
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    It would be good to report some currently verified concreteness about the deficit organized in the USSR. And then to believe the words is bad form.
    1. Dmitrii Offline Dmitrii
      Dmitrii (Dmitriy) 19 January 2021 13: 54
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      And look at the YouTube Nevzorov video materials "600 seconds" about the times of "empty counters" - everything is very clear and obvious-proof there
  66. Dmitrii Offline Dmitrii
    Dmitrii (Dmitriy) 19 January 2021 13: 51
    +1
    Excellent, extremely accurate and complete text. Just stuff in tutorials!
    The leaders of the country are simply tired of opposing the West, defending the country and managing its complex economy! At the same time, there was a desire to use
    official position for enrichment!
    At the same time (and especially after the "exposure of the personality cult") there was a decline
    enthusiasm among the people. People became more petty-bourgeois, individualistic and selfish. In general, this is normal - it is impossible to "burn" all the time ...
    A different structure of the economy had to correspond to the new moods, the psychological mood - a multi-structure (planned heavy industries + free consumption economy) - a new NEP!
    This was not done! As a result, both destructive "flows" - "above" and "below"
    tragically "met" in the late 80s and early 90s, destroying such hard work and such
    a country created by blood! This is a terrible fall!
  67. ivanmironov Offline ivanmironov
    ivanmironov 20 January 2021 07: 19
    -3
    Those who lived in the USSR know that there was always a deficit! Shameless lie from the author himself. Where then did the Prosecutor's Office, the OBKHSS, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the KGB look? The impudent lies about "sabotage" were invented by the communists themselves, in order to avoid responsibility for the collapse of the country, for the moronic administrative-command economy. In 1982. the Food Program was urgently adopted because famine was really looming in the USSR. It was not only food production that collapsed, but its processing and storage industries. In the USSR, there were simply no modern vegetable stores and meat processing plants.
  68. VLADIMIR_6 Offline VLADIMIR_6
    VLADIMIR_6 (VLADIMIR SHAPIRO) 20 January 2021 14: 53
    +1
    The author is right. I saw coupons in 1963-1964. On the day of the radio announcement of Khrushchev's retirement, everything appeared in stores. It also disappeared one day in the 1990s. Yesterday there were goods, and today there are empty departments with industrial goods, only galoshes .. Probably at this time, Putin returned from abroad.
  69. theRNGC - Offline theRNGC -
    theRNGC - (theRNGC -) 22 January 2021 11: 44
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    We have "two paths": a fast revolutionary and a long evolutionary one.
    1. The revolutionary way. It will not be possible to immediately change something in our country without bloodshed. The powers that be sank deep, like encephalitis ticks. They now do not put human life into anything, like the same Deripaska and Potanins with floods, fires and oil leaks for the sake of profit. For them, ordinary people are consumables. They consolidate their position with bribes to the special services, the prosecutor's office, the courts, and also feed a personal "army" of thugs who are not averse to using force for money in case of discontent of the common people. They built the entire judicial and legal system for themselves. But there is also another side of the coin. The active decomposition of the morality and values ​​of the common working man has led to the emergence of a significant number of "masses" who will also hinder the building of a society in a conscience. Take a simple example: in an ordinary residential area, they put a small sports field with horizontal bars, parallel bars, a bench. Exercise, develop, strengthen your body and spirit. Of course, there are those who are engaged. And it pleases. But now, with constant regularity, the "local population" sits down on the bench - they drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes, use substances, paint with extremist obscene inscriptions. The site is constantly littered with bottles, cigarette butts and other debris. Pet dogs shit right on the site, and their owners are only touched by them. Verbal comments don't help. The police don't help. Letters to the council - an ordinary viscous bureaucracy - do not help. Writing letters with complaints about the inaction of officials is letters for the sake of letters. Working people have neither the time nor the energy for this. And the unemployed are just the same from the contingent described above. But what helps a lot is a notable face beating. Unfortunately, these "most useful" citizens are protected by the so-called "law".
    Well, and the main problem of the revolutionary path - it is not known whether people will come to power with the correct morality. Therefore, many do not want a repetition of the 90s. Better let it be like now.

    2. The evolutionary path. He is very complicated. It's very long. Difficult first of all because we have to start with ourselves. Namely, to begin to limit yourself in excesses, gluttony. Have to face "hardships and hardships". They should become a personal example of conscience, discipline, dignity and kindness for growing children.
    There are many examples in history when teachers took patronage over groups of street children who were not needed by anyone (even with living parents, but absolutely without supervision and education). Not everyone did it, but some of them still became significant scientists and figures.
    The problem is that few people are willing to live in a disciplined way. "If they don't want to, then why should I?" - the main virus launched by powerful people in the head and soul. But they fear the evolutionary path more than the revolutionary one. They are ready to shed blood at any time and for any reason. But against the evolutionary path, they can only hope for the weakness of a person before temptations. The evolutionary path is inevitable, history moves in cycles. We only delay it in time with our own weaknesses.
  70. sklyar-volga Offline sklyar-volga
    sklyar-volga (alexey sklyar) 27 January 2021 18: 21
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    In Volgograd, meat products have not been on free sale since 1971. 1991 All other products were very rare. In the 80s, in general, they stopped going to stores, so that to buy the introduced coupons for some names, the queue had to be occupied at 4-00 in the morning, and that could not get there. The constant shortage of food was due to the delusional ideas of organizing collective farms (they returned to primitive communal farming!) Everyone who was able and able to work was repressed and destroyed, and those who remained did not want to work practically for free. Since the 60s, grain has been massively purchased abroad; The Politburo and Gorbachev, in order to avoid hunger riots, were forced to go to perestroika, since there was no money left even to buy food from the West. Even in Moscow in the 80s it was impossible to buy, for example, raw smoked sausage (it was distributed among enterprises), and so on. products, the Soviet power, due to the flawed, unscientific demonic ideology of Marx and Lenin, was not able to provide at least the minimum needs of the population for goods, services and food.
  71. Cube_2 Offline Cube_2
    Cube_2 (Pavel Serechenko) 29 January 2021 06: 56
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    I agree completely
  72. Gennady_4 Offline Gennady_4
    Gennady_4 (Oralov Gennady) 30 January 2021 21: 23
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    This was a pre-planned event for the traitor Gorbachev and his associates to overthrow the Soviet regime.
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  73. DPN Offline DPN
    DPN (DPN) 31 January 2021 23: 17
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    You can safely subscribe to YOUR words., And it was., Our man went to the dump for sausages, and not to the store .. The products were exchanged by barter ..
    It is still not clear why Gorbachev is not recognized as an ENEMY who destroyed the USSR, another spruce center was erected.
  74. Alexander Vishnevsky (Alexander Vishnevsky) 4 February 2021 20: 49
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    Maybe someone remembers how Khrushchev was removed? And so it was. It was necessary, first, to displease the MASS. In Magnitogorsk, where I lived and studied at school, suddenly there was no bread. I stood in line for 3-5 hours. Then, many years later, I learned that the same thing happened even in Moscow.
    And suddenly, after 3-5 days of bread, as usual, heaps of bread.
    Later I understood these "technologies". I have no doubt that it was the same during the coup in the 90s.
  75. misanthrope Offline misanthrope
    misanthrope (misanthrope) 9 February 2021 10: 31
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    In the year 1988-1989, business directors were allowed to trade directly with the west. Well, the soul rushed to heaven. First of all, everything was exported (our TVs went out to the world level in quality) and what was left to the domestic market. On January 2, 1992, the country moved to the market. With the opening of the store, at least one product was on sale, but it was already on sale at a market price. ... On January 1, the country did not work, it was celebrating the New Year, there was no supply to the shops. The people, as always, were left out in the cold. Whoever was in power remained there.
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    1. alex021748 Offline alex021748
      alex021748 (Alexander Dmitriev) 11 February 2021 15: 14
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      The OBKHSS and the KGB initiated the collapse of the USSR. Look what Kryuchkov was doing in the late 80s and early 90s. On the one hand, he allegedly advocated the preservation of the USSR (GKChP), and on the other hand, he supported Gorbachev. And the GKChP did not set the goal of preserving the USSR, but preserving the power of the party nomenklatura.
  78. alex021748 Offline alex021748
    alex021748 (Alexander Dmitriev) 11 February 2021 15: 08
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    I completely agree with the author. The tactics of creating discontent in the country to solve some of their problems is as old as the world. Refer to history. February 1917, the eve of the February bourgeois revolution in Russia. Essential products disappear from store shelves, first of all - bread. The tsar at this time in Mogilev, at Headquarters, the First World War is going on. and at this time in the cities (in St. Petersburg, in the first place) are not allowed compounds with flour and other products. Unrest breaks out in St. Petersburg, people go out into the street. Troops and Cossacks are used against them. A few days later the tsar signs the abdication. Another example. The beginning of the 60s. Before Nikita's dismissal, bread shortages begin in the country. Bread appeared in stores with the addition of something incomprehensible. The people began to grumble. After a while Nikita is removed. As it has now become known, at that time the conspirators conspired to replace Khrushchev. After 25 years, the situation is repeated by Gorbachev. It is fair to say that food shortages began in the early 60s. This was the result of Khrushchev's reforms in agriculture and industry. After Brezhnev came to power, the experiments did not stop. After Kosygin was appointed prime minister, full-scale experiments in industry began, which ultimately led to the collapse of the USSR.
  79. AiratG Offline AiratG
    AiratG (Ayrat Giniyatullin) 17 February 2021 20: 34
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    That's right! It was after Brezhnev that everything began
  80. Samarets Offline Samarets
    Samarets (Samarets) 19 February 2021 09: 32
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    It's true. The total deficit was created artificially. My aunt worked in the supply chain and told how in the late 80s food was rotted in warehouses and buried. And in the mid-90s, when they began to sell warehouse premises on Zavodskoy Highway, the new owners threw a cry about the sale of what was thrown in the supposedly empty buildings. I ended up in a shoe warehouse. Yugoslav and Romanian shoes, boots, children's shoes in boxes were piled up to the ceilings. All productions of the second half of the 80s, early 90s ... I personally, in addition to what myself and my family needed, collected two bags of excellent children's sneakers (the price was symbolic). Then he worked as a trainer, distributed to children, and to all his friends.